I couldnt find the last thread on this so I'll start a new one.
The fight is coming up now and I have to say i'll be all out rootin for Hatton, he seems like a really sound bloke with an awsome talent and fierce dedication. However I think Hatton will have to knock Mayweather out if he is going to win as Mayweather is the better all round boxer. Cant wait for it, its gonna be some fight.
Mayweather 4/9
Hatton 7/4
Nice feature on Mayweather in the Sunday Trubune Monthly magzine (fantastic mag for anyone who like sport).
Is this fight pay-per-view?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2007, 01:29:52 PM
Nice feature on Mayweather in the Sunday Trubune Monthly magzine (fantastic mag for anyone who like sport).
Is this fight pay-per-view?
Yes it is Dinny €15 euro i think but i could be wrong
Boxing has lost a lot of it's appeal recently - probably due to the fact there are about 86 world champions at each weight - but this will be some fight.
Sports bar in town is charging £10 to get in to watch the fight. f**k that, i bet there'll be plenty other places showing it. Whoever wins DeLaHoya will be the real winner, his company is promoting it, and he gets a title shot from Hatton if he wins. However my money'd be on Mayweather.
QuoteYes it is Dinny €15 euro i think but i could be wrong
Damin, though it was free to Setanta subscribers or is it and you just pay €15 if you don't have Setanta???
its on sky box office. its £15 sterling. think its 20 euro or something like that.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2007, 02:06:47 PM
QuoteYes it is Dinny €15 euro i think but i could be wrong
Damin, though it was free to Setanta subscribers or is it and you just pay €15 if you don't have Setanta???
I don't have setanta Dinny maybe they are showing it i'm just getting it on sky box office
QuoteI don't have setanta Dinny maybe they are showing it i'm just getting it on sky box office
Yea from what I can see that looks like it, happy days....
Quote from: behind the wire on November 30, 2007, 02:18:03 PM
its on sky box office. its £15 sterling. think its 20 euro or something like that.
Correct. It's £15 sterling and i'll tell you something for nothing it's gonna be a real cracker. Hatton moving up the weights could be a problem and although he seems to have sorted out his problems of being easy cut and marked i think no i know it will go the distance and Mayweather will win on points.
Hatton was easy marked and easy cut and they found out his problem. He was not taking in enough water therfore leaving his skin thinner which marked and cut easier. But he's a hard we B*****d and i hope he wins but as stated above i think Mayweather will win it on points.
FM is a class act - one of the greats of our era - but sometimes and more importantly lately, he is getting carried away with his own hype.
Stating that he is greater than Ali and actually believing it could be a costly mistake.
Hatton has all the tools and determination to win this fight. This fight will not be won by the hardest puncher, or the fighter with the better stamina, it will be won by the smarter boxer.
I wish Hatton all the best and think he is worth a few pound in the bookies.
Don't miss this one as it could be a classic.
Anyone else been watching the hbo show hatton, mayweather 24/7? Really interesting
Just realised we wont actually have it in our house as the virgin media package doesnt hve sky box office so will probably have to head into the Sports Cafe to watch it as its staying open late, but that will mean heading out before it and drinking then as well and probably being too tired/pissed to actually see and enoy it. Any chance you could get an online stream to it?
As regards the fight, would fancy Mayweather to win on a unanimous points decision, along with everyone else though I hope I'm wrong.
Quote from: heganboy on November 30, 2007, 02:55:44 PM
Anyone else been watching the hbo show hatton, mayweather 24/7? Really interesting
Yeah saw this heganboy, very good feature. Gas the way Mayweather's hands are in bits. Also thought it was crazy the way Hatton's coach's hand and wrists are also in bits from Hatton punchin them over the years.
Hatton's impression of Mayweather's punching the coach while looking the other direction was hilarious.
Hatton 'You can hit me with six of them (taps his hand softly with his fist) and I'll hit you with one of them (plants a haymaker on his hand)'.
The whole Mayweather's hands not being 100% thing has to be a pure work, right?
Quote from: heganboy on November 30, 2007, 02:55:44 PM
Anyone else been watching the hbo show hatton, mayweather 24/7? Really interesting
Aye seen it. Different one on every week isnt their, i have seen two different ones so far. Hatton is so down to earth, seems like a real nice fella. Mayweather seems to be surrounded by hangers on, seems lonely and doesnt have any real friends. Had to laugh at him boasting about how rich he is though saying about having $300,000 around his neck, $250,000 around his wrest and $200,000 on his pinky. so cocky its unreal
Cant wait for this fight. Would love it if Hatton wins, but have my doubts. For Hatton to do it, i reckon he will have to rough Mayweather up a bit inside. dont let him fight the fight his way, or at his pace. If hatton can do this he certainly has a chance.
Mayweather's hands are brittle and he has a history of hand trouble. He isn't powerful enough to stop Hatton unless it is on cuts but I don't know that Hatton is fast enough to catch him nor is he big enough to bully him - De La hoya must have weighted 10-12lbs heavier than Mayweather come fight time and couldn't move him, so Hatton who struggled badly (and for my money lost) against Collazo when he stepped up to welterweight the last time, won't be ablet to hurt him either.
Regarding the comment about comparisons to Ali, it's not all that fanciful - I said on the other thread that if he wins this and beats Cotto afterwards then he is the best fighter since Ali at any weight. Only other contender for that I think is Duran.
Cotto is a big if however, as I was surprised at him beating Mosley who is faster and more powerful than Mayweather (although not as light on his feet). Forget De la Hoya Hatton, Cotto v Hatton would be incredible. Only problem is DLH =$$$
Verdict? Hatton will make him work but Mayweather is just too good - UD by three clear rounds.
Regarding being on TV, the DLH vs Mayweather was on Sky at 8am on the Saturday morning, I don't imagine this is any different. Ok it aint live but that fight was the biggest PPV ever and if I had had the energy I think it was on live over here with no need to pay.
This might be a daft question but does anyone know of anywhere in Dublin (pub-club wise) that might be showing this fight.
QuoteAny chance you could get an online stream to it?[
url]http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=3131&part=sports[/url]
Watch most sport online using this. Thats kid power for you, hugging the SKY tv.
http://www.myp2p.eu/index.php?part=news&newsid=22 (http://www.myp2p.eu/index.php?part=news&newsid=22)
QuoteThis might be a daft question but does anyone know of anywhere in Dublin (pub-club wise) that might be showing this fight.
Anyone know the answer to this for Belfast?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2007, 02:23:49 PM
QuoteI don't have setanta Dinny maybe they are showing it i'm just getting it on sky box office
Yea from what I can see that looks like it, happy days....
So is this fight only on Sky Box office or do Setanta have it?
Quote from: Tankie on December 05, 2007, 12:27:24 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2007, 02:23:49 PM
QuoteI don't have setanta Dinny maybe they are showing it i'm just getting it on sky box office
Yea from what I can see that looks like it, happy days....
So is this fight only on Sky Box office or do Setanta have it?
It's on Sky Box Office
Quote from: Galwaybhoy on December 05, 2007, 12:33:09 AM
Quote from: Tankie on December 05, 2007, 12:27:24 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2007, 02:23:49 PM
QuoteI don't have setanta Dinny maybe they are showing it i'm just getting it on sky box office
Yea from what I can see that looks like it, happy days....
So is this fight only on Sky Box office or do Setanta have it?
It's on Sky Box Office
Cheers I am gonna get it on Box Office but would have been handy if it was on setanta tho.
Quote from: Tankie on December 05, 2007, 12:36:11 AM
Quote from: Galwaybhoy on December 05, 2007, 12:33:09 AM
Quote from: Tankie on December 05, 2007, 12:27:24 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2007, 02:23:49 PM
QuoteI don't have setanta Dinny maybe they are showing it i'm just getting it on sky box office
Yea from what I can see that looks like it, happy days....
So is this fight only on Sky Box office or do Setanta have it?
It's on Sky Box Office
Cheers I am gonna get it on Box Office but would have been handy if it was on setanta tho.
Why is Setanta better? I havnt ordered anything on Setanta since the McBride/Tyson fight.
Quote from: Galwaybhoy on December 05, 2007, 12:37:53 AM
Quote from: Tankie on December 05, 2007, 12:36:11 AM
Quote from: Galwaybhoy on December 05, 2007, 12:33:09 AM
Quote from: Tankie on December 05, 2007, 12:27:24 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2007, 02:23:49 PM
QuoteI don't have setanta Dinny maybe they are showing it i'm just getting it on sky box office
Yea from what I can see that looks like it, happy days....
So is this fight only on Sky Box office or do Setanta have it?
It's on Sky Box Office
Cheers I am gonna get it on Box Office but would have been handy if it was on setanta tho.
Why is Setanta better? I havnt ordered anything on Setanta since the McBride/Tyson fight.
well i have the setanta package so if it was free i would have taken it but if it came to a pay per view choice i would take sky as I have the HD Box so the fight in HD should be class.
Whats the craic with watching the repeats on sky the next day? Are the repeats on Sky Box Office or will they be on Sky Sports 1 or 2? In otherwords if you havent subscribed to the live event can you watch the repeat the next day?
Quote from: heganboy on November 30, 2007, 02:55:44 PM
Anyone else been watching the hbo show hatton, mayweather 24/7? Really interesting
Ye its a good show any one see Mayweathers 3 year old son ducking and diving bobbing and weaving ,he looks like a natural allready i wonder what odds Loan shark would give on him been a future world champion some day?. Can't wait for the fight hope hatton does the business
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 05, 2007, 10:45:55 AM
Whats the craic with watching the repeats on sky the next day? Are the repeats on Sky Box Office or will they be on Sky Sports 1 or 2? In otherwords if you havent subscribed to the live event can you watch the repeat the next day?
I'd say it will be repeated on Sky Box Office a few times before it might be shown on Sky Sports.
i'd say it wont be shown on Sky for a few days after it- but it will most likely be up in different parts on youtube the next day - that was the case for Mayweather v De La Hoya and Hatton v Castillo anyway
TV coverage starts at 11 I'm told, but does anyone know what time the actual fight itself is due to start??
Also, is John Duddy fighing this weekend as well??
The main event is at 4am. Duddy is fighting in the Kings Hall, think it could be on ITV or ITV2. That will be a normal time.
Cheers for that
QuoteDuddy is fighting in the Kings Hall, think it could be on ITV or ITV2.
Think the Duddy fight's on BBC
I watched a 24/7 show earlier on SkySports, Mayweather must be one of the most arrogant, mouthy f**kers i have ever seen. As with many black athletes with plenty of green he has a large entourage, no doubt only too willing to spend his millions. I hope Hatton knocks his head off this weekend.
Duddy fight will probably be shown in the North alright, not sure about elsewhere - Amir Khan fights Graham Earl so that is likely to he on UTV. Hope Earl knocks him down a peg or two.
Galwaybhoy and Rav, I don't know this but am just asking. If DLH vs Mayweather was the biggest PPV fight ever and you could watch it at 8am over there on Sky1 or 2 the next morning, why wouldn't you be able to this time? Actually now that I think about it the answer is probably obvious - Hatton is a Brit and lots of Brits will fork out for it whereas only boxing aficionados would have bought Mayweather v DLH
Quote from: the Deel Rover on December 05, 2007, 10:48:20 AM
Quote from: heganboy on November 30, 2007, 02:55:44 PM
Anyone else been watching the hbo show hatton, mayweather 24/7? Really interesting
Ye its a good show any one see Mayweathers 3 year old son ducking and diving bobbing and weaving ,he looks like a natural allready i wonder what odds Loan shark would give on him been a future world champion some day?. Can't wait for the fight hope hatton does the business
Saw that, twas gas, he has all the moves, some man to beat the crap out of the dishwasher.
"Yeah sure Hatton is 43-0 but he aint never fought no Floyd Mayweather, and if he did, he'd be 0 and 43".
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 05, 2007, 10:45:55 AM
Whats the craic with watching the repeats on sky the next day? Are the repeats on Sky Box Office or will they be on Sky Sports 1 or 2? In otherwords if you havent subscribed to the live event can you watch the repeat the next day?
You'll have to wait a few days. In fact you'd probably have to wait the best part of a week before they repeat it free to air.
Quote from: CiKe on December 05, 2007, 10:50:39 PM
Duddy fight will probably be shown in the North alright, not sure about elsewhere - Amir Khan fights Graham Earl so that is likely to he on UTV. Hope Earl knocks him down a peg or two.
Galwaybhoy and Rav, I don't know this but am just asking. If DLH vs Mayweather was the biggest PPV fight ever and you could watch it at 8am over there on Sky1 or 2 the next morning, why wouldn't you be able to this time? Actually now that I think about it the answer is probably obvious - Hatton is a Brit and lots of Brits will fork out for it whereas only boxing aficionados would have bought Mayweather v DLH
I watched the DLH/Mayweather fight on Box Office, and while I cant remember for sure I thought it was only replayed on Sky Box Office all Sunday and not on Sky Sports. I'd say it will be the same this time around.
Quote from: The Claw on December 05, 2007, 11:01:30 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on December 05, 2007, 10:48:20 AM
Quote from: heganboy on November 30, 2007, 02:55:44 PM
Anyone else been watching the hbo show hatton, mayweather 24/7? Really interesting
Ye its a good show any one see Mayweathers 3 year old son ducking and diving bobbing and weaving ,he looks like a natural allready i wonder what odds Loan shark would give on him been a future world champion some day?. Can't wait for the fight hope hatton does the business
Saw that, twas gas, he has all the moves, some man to beat the crap out of the dishwasher.
"Yeah sure Hatton is 43-0 but he aint never fought no Floyd Mayweather, and if he did, he'd be 0 and 43".
Couldn't stop laughing at Mayweather when he said that. To be honest I find Mayeweather funny, hes arrogance doesn't bother me, saying that I always liked Ricky Hatton and really hopes he gets the job done Sunday morning.
Quote[must be one of the most arrogant, mouthy f**kers i have ever seen/quote]
Sure that not Jason Sherlock
QuoteI watched the DLH/Mayweather fight on Box Office, and while I cant remember for sure I thought it was only replayed on Sky Box Office all Sunday and not on Sky Sports. I'd say it will be the same this time around.
I saw the DLH and Mayweather fight on Sky Sports that Sunday morning for free but, as someone else mentioned, it may not be the case this time as it involves a british fighter.
AFAIK if you pay for the fight it is repeated at 9am & 11am on Sunday morning
It wont be on Sky Sports on Sunday morning
Good article by George Kimball in the Irish times were he says Hattons best chance is to damage Mayweather's hands with his face - a little harsh but also probably true.
He also points to the long line of British Champs that have gone over and failed (the exception being the Canadian lewis) everyone from Minter to Naseem.
Hope Hatton wins though..
Quote from: Galwaybhoy on December 06, 2007, 12:19:26 AM
Quote from: The Claw on December 05, 2007, 11:01:30 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on December 05, 2007, 10:48:20 AM
Quote from: heganboy on November 30, 2007, 02:55:44 PM
Anyone else been watching the hbo show hatton, mayweather 24/7? Really interesting
Ye its a good show any one see Mayweathers 3 year old son ducking and diving bobbing and weaving ,he looks like a natural allready i wonder what odds Loan shark would give on him been a future world champion some day?. Can't wait for the fight hope hatton does the business
Saw that, twas gas, he has all the moves, some man to beat the crap out of the dishwasher.
"Yeah sure Hatton is 43-0 but he aint never fought no Floyd Mayweather, and if he did, he'd be 0 and 43".
Couldn't stop laughing at Mayweather when he said that. To be honest I find Mayeweather funny, hes arrogance doesn't bother me, saying that I always liked Ricky Hatton and really hopes he gets the job done Sunday morning.
i agree with you there GBB to be honest i think he is a wind up merchant, Did you see hattons mother speaking, Jesus she really wants Ricky to do some damage to Mayweather his father had to step in to stop her saying something she might regret. Didn't realise his father played for Man city
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 05, 2007, 12:48:27 PM
The main event is at 4am. Duddy is fighting in the Kings Hall, think it could be on ITV or ITV2. That will be a normal time.
Fight is 6pm local time in Las Vegas which is 2am GMT.
Are you sure Snowed Under?
I though the main bout (Hatton v Mayweather) wouldnt be on till around 4am GMT about 8pm in Vegas
Quote from: full back on December 06, 2007, 10:06:33 AM
Are you sure Snowed Under?
I though the main bout (Hatton v Mayweather) wouldnt be on till around 4am GMT about 8pm in Vegas
I hope so - I have it booked - 4am :o, I was going on HBO.
Quote from: Rav67 on November 30, 2007, 03:12:05 PM
Just realised we wont actually have it in our house as the virgin media package doesnt hve sky box office so will probably have to head into the Sports Cafe to watch it as its staying open late, but that will mean heading out before it and drinking then as well and probably being too tired/pissed to actually see and enoy it. Any chance you could get an online stream to it?
As regards the fight, would fancy Mayweather to win on a unanimous points decision, along with everyone else though I hope I'm wrong.
You sure Virgin Media doesn't have sky box office? I think its on channel 505 or something. I hope so anyway cause I was planning on watching it in the house. Found this on the website too:
http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/dtv/sports_channels.html
What does anyone think of Mayweather's 10,000 punches in one training session? Looked like they weren't much of a punch!! I don't think Hatton will be worried too much if he gets hit with 10,000 of those!!
Hatton has to be worth a few quid i think - Mayweather's just too cocky!!
does anyone have odds for the fight?
also does anyone have odds for the eastman duddy fight? think eastman might be worth a few quid if the price is right. would be surprised if bookies leave themselves that open again though after the dunne martinez fight.
Quote from: behind the wire on December 06, 2007, 11:07:13 AM
does anyone have odds for the fight?
also does anyone have odds for the eastman duddy fight? think eastman might be worth a few quid if the price is right. would be surprised if bookies leave themselves that open again though after the dunne martinez fight.
Mayweather 1/2
Hatton 13/8
Duddy 1/4
Eastman 5/2
Hatton/Eastman double :)
Although the odds dont reflect it I think Eastman has a better chance of beating Duddy than Hatton has of beating Mayweather
Quote from: take_yer_points on December 06, 2007, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: behind the wire on December 06, 2007, 11:07:13 AM
does anyone have odds for the fight?
also does anyone have odds for the eastman duddy fight? think eastman might be worth a few quid if the price is right. would be surprised if bookies leave themselves that open again though after the dunne martinez fight.
Mayweather 1/2
Hatton 13/8
Duddy 1/4
Eastman 5/2
Hatton/Eastman double :)
was thinking the same thing myself. not a definite but a pssibility. £5 double will pay out around £45 on those odds. £5 double on mayweather eastman pays out around £25, again not bad.
does anyone think duddy will win?
Quote from: behind the wire on December 06, 2007, 12:29:05 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on December 06, 2007, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: behind the wire on December 06, 2007, 11:07:13 AM
does anyone have odds for the fight?
also does anyone have odds for the eastman duddy fight? think eastman might be worth a few quid if the price is right. would be surprised if bookies leave themselves that open again though after the dunne martinez fight.
Mayweather 1/2
Hatton 13/8
Duddy 1/4
Eastman 5/2
Hatton/Eastman double :)
was thinking the same thing myself. not a definite but a pssibility. £5 double will pay out around £45 on those odds. £5 double on mayweather eastman pays out around £25, again not bad.
does anyone think duddy will win?
Well I'm gonna bet against him cause I think Eastman is good value at 5/2 but if Duddy has a good night then he should beat Eastman. Eastman's getting old now.
See there's still plenty of ringside and balcony tickets going - Kings Hall isn't the biggest venue in the world and it looks like he's not gonna sell it out.
Anyone see the press conference. They had to be seperated. All for the cameras I'm sure but entertaining none the less. Two very likeable men.
Bernard Hopkins tips Hatton for victory.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7130159.stm
does anyone know of any pubs/clubs in the Belfast area showing it? I wont be there but a few guys I know are looking.
its on, hopefully, myp2p.eu
http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?&competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=other&allowedDays=1 (http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?&competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=other&allowedDays=1)
Quote from: Square Ball on December 06, 2007, 02:41:24 PM
does anyone know of any pubs/clubs in the Belfast area showing it? I wont be there but a few guys I know are looking.
its on, hopefully, myp2p.eu
http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?&competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=other&allowedDays=1 (http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?&competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=other&allowedDays=1)
SB, how does this work, is it streaming? If I leave it on during the night will it be there for me in the morning?
I got bored with boxing a long time ago but sometimes a fight just catches everybody's imagination and this is one of those. Mind you i won't pay to watch it or get out of bed but I'll was highlights if there are any.
Quote from: Snowed Under on December 06, 2007, 10:12:18 AM
Quote from: full back on December 06, 2007, 10:06:33 AM
Are you sure Snowed Under?
I though the main bout (Hatton v Mayweather) wouldnt be on till around 4am GMT about 8pm in Vegas
I hope so - I have it booked - 4am :o, I was going on HBO.
Programming starts at 6pm Snowed Under but the main bout usually doesn't get underway till after 8pm depending how the bouts go before hand of course.
Quote from: The Claw on December 06, 2007, 05:17:07 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on December 06, 2007, 02:41:24 PM
does anyone know of any pubs/clubs in the Belfast area showing it? I wont be there but a few guys I know are looking.
its on, hopefully, myp2p.eu
http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?&competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=other&allowedDays=1 (http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?&competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=other&allowedDays=1)
SB, how does this work, is it streaming? If I leave it on during the night will it be there for me in the morning?
it will be streamed as live, so it wont be there, maybe able to down load it from a torrents site later on in the day
Mayweather certainly isn't a powder puff puncher - watch his destruction of Corrales or Ndou. That said, besides going down against our own Eamonn Magee, I'm not sure Hatton has been down against any other fighters - I don't envisage any knockdowns.
Can someone post the Kimball article pls? He is great to read altogether and I'd love to see what he has to say.
Hitman follows in great British tradition
That neither Ricky Hatton nor the world's favourite sport has exactly taken America by storm was suggested by a press release distributed two days ago by the promoters of Saturday night's megafight at the MGM Grand Garden.
Under the heading of "Ricky (the Hitman) Hatton, beloved in England, wants US fans to know more of his charismatic personality," the "Did You Know?" section included this titbit: "Ricky is friends with Paul Dalglish, who plays American football for the Houston Texans," news which would have been surprising to that NFL team.
Kenny Dalglish's son, of course, plays English football, or soccer, for the Houston Dynamo, a team which just two weeks earlier had won the MLS Cup, but the misinformation was duly reprinted in numerous newspapers and boxing websites around the country yesterday morning.
American sports fans and American sportswriters may be naïve about soccer, but when it comes to self-deception, the eternally optimistic English boxing fan is unrivalled in all of sport.
When tickets for Hatton's fight against Floyd Mayweather Jr went on sale last September, the MGM Grand Garden Arena sold out in half an hour. Of the 17,000 ducats snapped up that day, perhaps 3,000 of them were purchased by British tour operators, but locals estimate that as many as 10,000 of Hatton's countrymen are in Nevada this weekend to support the undefeated Mancunian.
As of yesterday morning, Las Vegas ticket brokers were offering single seats on the floor at $5,000 and up, and four adjacent seats could still be had for a mere $38,000.
It seems unlikely enough that Hatton's army of blue-collar supporters will subscribe at those prices, but a number of Las Vegas casinos will have the fight available on closed-circuit television at $50 a pop, which, given the $54.95 price tag for watching the pay-per-view telecast in one's living room, looks almost like a bargain.
In the meantime, the casinos will spend the next three days cheerfully separating the visitors from across the pond from their money at the gaming tables.
Depending on the always-unpredictable pay-per-view sale in Britain and elsewhere in Europe, Pretty Boy Floyd could wind up with an estimated $20 million for this weekend's exercise. Hatton's take could be as much as $15 million.
Mayweather remains slightly better than a 1 to 2 favourite at the sports books up and down the strip, and the odds would be even shorter but for the recent influx of British money through the windows.
Given the fervour of the Brits, it would be surprising if attendance at tomorrow's weigh-in at the Grand Garden doesn't top the record 7,000 who watched Mayweather and De La Hoya step on the scales in May.
We've seen all of this before, of course. When future Hall of Famer Marvellous Marvin Hagler challenged the very ordinary Alan Minter for the middleweight title back in 1980, Minter was actually the betting favourite at the London bookie shops.
Seven years later the Brits were convinced that Barney Eastwood-managed Herol (Bomber) Graham would inherit the mantle of middleweight greatness once Hagler passed on the torch. Graham was 38-0 when Hagler retired from the ring. The Bomber wound up getting four cracks at world titles, and lost them all.
Saturday night's venue has been the scene of some of these British disappointments. Half a dozen years ago the English had actually managed to persuade themselves that Prince Naseem Hamed, then 35-0, was the second coming of Sugar Ray Robinson - until he was unmasked by Marco Antonio Barrera at the MGM Grand.
An army of supporters at least the size of Hatton's accompanied Frank Bruno to America for his 1996 fight with Mike Tyson at the MGM Grand. Although Tyson had knocked Bruno out in five seven years earlier, this time Bruno was the champion and Tyson had fought just twice since being released from prison, and thousands of beefy Englishmen showed up in Vegas persuaded that their man couldn't lose.
Bruno nearly hyperventilated in his corner before the fight even started. Just before the opening bell he frantically blessed himself so many times that Frank Warren was moved to note that he looked like "the Pope on speed". This time Tyson knocked him out in three.
(The lone exception to a trend which dates back to the dawn of time would seem to be Lennox Lewis, but it should be remembered that the Brits didn't exactly embrace Lewis as one of their own. Though born in London, he was a Canadian citizen of Jamaican stock who lived in the US. When he won, he was English. When he lost, or looked bad, he was a Canadian.)
If Hatton is burdened by unrealistic expectations it is because his fans have never seen him lose. (Mayweather sneered at the Hitman's 43-0 record the other day, noting that "if he'd fought 43 Floyd Mayweathers, he'd be 0-43.) The bout will be Hatton's fourth US outing in a row (and fifth overall, including a four-rounder on a Madison Square Garden undercard 10 years ago). Last year he barely beat Luis Colazzo in Boston, with a first-round flash knockdown furnishing the margin of victory, and then went the distance with the largely untested Juan Urango. This June he knocked out Jose Luis Castillo, but Castillo was but a shell of the fighter who'd given Mayweather two hard fights years earlier.
That the bout is being contested at 147lb probably doesn't bode well for Hatton, who struggled against Colazzo in his only previous fight at that weight. (Mayweather, on the other hand, ventured up to 154 for May's fight against De La Hoya; even as a light middleweight he looked quicker than Hatton did as a welterweight.)
When somebody mentioned Hatton's "electrifying" style the other day, Pretty Boy scoffed: "If you call hitting and holding and wrestling exciting, then I guess he's an exciting fighter."
Hatton has traditionally been able to wear down his opponents with relentless pressure, but the expectation here is that he won't even be able to catch up with Pretty Boy, who won't stay in one place long enough to engage him on the inside.
Does Hatton have a chance, then? Well, yes. Mayweather has a well-documented history of chronic hand problems, and as late as last week rumours had surfaced that the American had an injured paw and might seek a postponement.
If Hatton can hang in long enough to do some damage to Mayweather's fists with his face, he might be able to make a fight of it.
© 2007 The Irish Times
Slightly off topic, Bernard Hopkins said about Joe Calzaghe, "I wont lose to no white boy", he repeated it five times. Can you imagine if Calzaghe said he wouldnt lose to a black boy?
3 rounds. Hatton down.
Anyone watching the weigh in?
I know its a different fight and there is a boxing thread somewhere, but I'm living in England now so won't be able to see the Duddy fight on TV. Would anyone know any link to somewhere I could maybe view it by online stream?
http://www.rte.ie/sport/webcastschedule.html
thanks for that
Really looking forward to this fight it brings me back to the days when i use to stay up late into the night to watch Prince Nassem,Holyfield,Tyson etc it's the first fight in a long time im getting excited about
Hope Hatton wins
QuoteReally looking forward to this fight it brings me back to the days when i use to stay up late into the night to watch Prince Nassem,Holyfield,Tyson etc it's the first fight in a long time im getting excited about
Hope Hatton wins
Tottaly agree TRL....can't wait for it.
Does anyone know what's the earliest time the fight will be on at, and what's the likely time?
I'm thinking of setting the alarm for 3:30 as a good guess?
Aye Norf that should be safe enough, Skys coverage goes to Vegas at 2am and there are two fights before the main event. Is due to start at around 4am. Would love to sit up and see it but as i have a 16 month old baby she will be up a couple of hours after it and i couldnt cope ! :-[
Getting really excited about this now, there have been some great fights recently that haven't had half the buildup, so I hope this one doesn't disappoint with all the hype.
I think there is a strong possibility a lot of people casual watchers will be disappointed as I don't see Mayweather standing toe to toe with Hatton - some people will likely denigrate him for that because they don't appreciate just how good he is at what he does.
The closer the fight gets the closer I think it will be but i still see Mayweather taking it. Hatton will likely come out like a man possessed for the first couple of rounds and try and rough him up with elbows and low blows. Watch out for Floyd's lead left hook and right uppercut and Hatton going for the right upstairs followed by another one to the ribs as he tried to take Floyd's legs away from him. If Hatton is to win, he needs to make sure he doesn't blow his gasket over the first six rounds because when it comes down the stretch going into the championship rounds, Mayweather will pick him to pieces if he is knackered.
I'm still going to go for Mayweather, but whereas I previously was thinking it would be a clear win, I wouldn't be massively surprised to see a majority or even split decision. I just hope there is no dodginess in the decision.
People are talking about Hatton fighting DLH win or lose, but I want to see both of these guys against Cotto. Hatton vs Cotto could very well outshine some of the very best wars like Hagler-Hearns, Corrales-Castillo or Barrera-Morales
I think both of them will get a shot at Cotto anyway in their next 2 fights, Hatton is right to go for DLH next while he's still a good fighter and a massive box office draw. I hear they are talking about having it at Wembley too which will guarantee an enormous crowd as well as a big PPV so that will set Hatton up for life financially. I'd fancy Cotto to beat the both of them when he gets a shot and become the next pound-for-pound king.
This fight is getting massive hype over here in the states at the minute. Documentaries on about the fight on loads of different channels. I watched an interesting one this morning which talked about Mayweathers Dad. He lost a world title fight to Sugar Ray lenoard back in the day but a few months later his son (floyds older bro I think) shot him in the leg. A family feud developed and I don't think Floud junior and senior have much contact. Oscar De la hoya showed up at Hattons gym (on camera of course) and started giving him tips. Oscar told Hatton that he had talked with Floyd senior a few days earlier and Floyd senior had told him Floyds weaknesses.
Right, no waffle just a prediction.
Hatton on points.
I have been ringing NTL for past two hours and can't get thru hope i haven't left it too late >:(
Its supposed to be on myp2p, can you not just book it via the tv and its just added to your bill?
Quote from: Square Ball on December 08, 2007, 06:34:26 PM
Its supposed to be on myp2p, can you not just book it via the tv and its just added to your bill?
my NTL isn't connected thru my phone line
Finally got thru :)
Have to agree with 5times. for hatton to win he will have to be the aggressor from the first bell. he will have to try and rough up mayweather inside, if can get the opportunity. the further the fight continues, the further the hopes [and my hopes] of a hatton victory will dissappear.
have to say that if he performs as well tonight as he did against kosta tszyu, he will have a fighters chance. he showed a lot of guts that night, against the odds.
He'll need to get to Mayweather's rib cage with good effect from the get go
i think to take the legs from him which would bode well should the fight go
in to the late rounds. Mayweather won't want to go toe to toe with him
and will probably spend most of his time backing up while picking him off left and right.
Should be a clinker but unfortunately i can't see anything other than a Mayweather victory,
Hope I'm wrong :-\
Is this fight being shown online anywhere...eithier free of subscribed? Btw is it just me or is this the biggest (promotion & hype wise) fight since the days of tyson, holyfield , lewis etc....Havnt witnessed anything like it in years!!
http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?&competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=other&allowedDays=1 (http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?&competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=other&allowedDays=1)
you will have to wait and see what its being shown on and download that
Whats everyones plans for the night are ye gonna stay up all night until fight is over or try and get a few zzz's before fight and get up at 3am?
Quote from: Square Ball on December 08, 2007, 07:53:55 PM
http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?&competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=other&allowedDays=1 (http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?&competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=other&allowedDays=1)
you will have to wait and see what its being shown on and download that
Will it def work...have u used it before? Dont wanna sit up and then it not working lol
thats the big question, I watched the Man Utd match via it earlier on and have been using it for a while. there has been occassions when it hasnt worked, but most of the time it does, is it a chance worth taking?
personally I will be in bed and will find out who wins when I get up.
right lads the f**king sky has f**ked up just my luck
will that link defo work? i really wanna see this fight!!
wtf is the craic with this RTE stream? Perfect audio but the picture moves about once every minute. wtf. Nothing wrong with my connection, stream matches all the time. Tyroneboi aye that myp2p link should be pretty reliable. i seen another site doing it for a quid for 24hr subscription to their service, ill try and get linky
Would love to see Hatton win but cant see it, i dont know how the boxers keep their focus for a massive fight like this, the media hype and presence has been non stop for two weeks.
does anyone know what time the fight is due to start?
i want to sky+ the hatton fight but not the others on the bill (not enough memory).
i was gonna set it to manually record from 3.30am to 6am. do u reckon that'll b enough?
cos i'm a cert to fall asleep
Quote from: fntn on December 08, 2007, 11:31:13 PM
does anyone know what time the fight is due to start?
i want to sky+ the hatton fight but not the others on the bill (not enough memory).
i was gonna set it to manually record from 3.30am to 6am. do u reckon that'll b enough?
cos i'm a cert to fall asleep
Aye you should be safe enough, coverage is due to move to Vegas at 2am and there are 2 fights before Hatton v Mayweather. Everyone seems to think it will start around 4am.
Quote from: Stalin on December 08, 2007, 10:09:37 PM
wtf is the craic with this RTE stream? Perfect audio but the picture moves about once every minute. wtf. Nothing wrong with my connection, stream matches all the time. Tyroneboi aye that myp2p link should be pretty reliable. i seen another site doing it for a quid for 24hr subscription to their service, ill try and get linky
any luck with that link?
Quote from: fntn on December 08, 2007, 11:31:13 PM
does anyone know what time the fight is due to start?
i want to sky+ the hatton fight but not the others on the bill (not enough memory).
i was gonna set it to manually record from 3.30am to 6am. do u reckon that'll b enough?
cos i'm a cert to fall asleep
4.00 am
pretty boy on points convincingly I think. hopefully I'm wrong but Hatton's style leaves him too open to Mayweathers accuracy. If Hatton smothers him up front and it turns into a toe to toe Hatton has a shot. referee will be a big factor
anyone watching the builld up on my p2p at the minute? watching it on channel 38501 and its a bit start and stop but still watchable just about
sopcast channel 33767 is perfect at the minute
Quote from: Square Ball on December 09, 2007, 01:31:34 AM
sopcast channel 33767 is perfect at the minute
which one is this?
i see its the bottom one...does it take long to start?
Quote from: tyroneboi on December 08, 2007, 11:45:34 PM
Quote from: Stalin on December 08, 2007, 10:09:37 PM
wtf is the craic with this RTE stream? Perfect audio but the picture moves about once every minute. wtf. Nothing wrong with my connection, stream matches all the time. Tyroneboi aye that myp2p link should be pretty reliable. i seen another site doing it for a quid for 24hr subscription to their service, ill try and get linky
any luck with that link?
sorry 4got...
http://tvforce.tv/forum/index.php
Ok is anyone wtaching this live online for free?
Quote from: Bainisteoir on December 09, 2007, 02:09:01 AM
Ok is anyone wtaching this live online for free?
No, but i could if i wanted :D :D :D :D :D :D
Are you having problems or what? Download sopcast/tvu, go to myp2p.eu, click on linky and youre away, not difficult
this is gonna be great, Hatton is gonna have his head knocked off!
set my alarm a tad early...Anyways all fresh now after a few hours kip hope fight starts soon enough the fight on now is in Round 8 of 12
Hey Square Ball what are you doing up i thought you were going to go asleep and find out who won in the morning!!
Anyone got any idea how to get the fight online?
If you have sopcast try these
sop://broker2.sopcast.com:3912/38501
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/24267
sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/26262
sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/13249
sop://broker2.sopcast.com:3912/33767
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/12971
sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/35999
You can download the software here http://www.sopcast.com/download/
guys to get it online:
download sopcast or tvu or tvants-just a quick google away
go to myp2p.eu, use yer noggin and navigate around it to get fight.
honestly not that difficult
Tiger Woods,Denzel Washington both have ringside seats....Beckham on his way
I love the way Sky Sports were going on about it being a bad year for the English and they showed their Cricketers,Rugby team,Soccer team and then they went to say but it's being a good year in Boxing for us and then showed Joe Calazaghe..Maybe im mistaken but isn't Calazaghe Welsh??
sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/35999
this is HBO coverage!!
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2007, 04:11:34 AM
Joe:
'The Pride of Wales'.
I really hope I get this fight. Karl Lacey fighting at the minute. Put yer man down in the fourth but neither could box eggs.
The Donegal player? ;D ;D
tyrone boi have u got a link then that works?
Quote from: Stalin on December 09, 2007, 04:21:13 AM
tyrone boi have u got a link then that works?
yeah am using that HBO link its working pretty well! thanks for the help.
That lacy - manfredo fight was awful!!
Ooppss fell asleep for a few mins lucky i set the alarm on the phone to go off every 20mins
Ordered it on SKY...and it hasn't come on!!
I hate the way the English boo other nations anthems the dirty scumbags
woo hoo....SKYS on!
Cmon Ricky!
Round 1 to Mayweather
Round 1,2 and 3 all to Mayweather i reckon..Hattons gonna have to knock him out to win this i think
The commentators are gas,Mayweather is landing punches reguarly and they barely mention it everytime Hatton gets within a whisker of landing one they are creaming themselves
Fairly dire fight can't see how Hatton is gonna win now
Mayweather looks poor, doesnt seem to wanna know, Hattons doin all the work!
Complete w**ker! Mayweather is playing the game alright!
Skys scoring it 57-56 to mayweather
Think its good as over!
Sky commetators complete w**ks!
Quote from: tyrone exile on December 09, 2007, 05:22:46 AM
Think its good as over!
Sky commetators complete w**ks!
Their a joke
knock out
Some punch...Mayweather had it won anyway...
Hatton isn't that bad, think the lights in Vegas got the better of him.
devastating finish none the less!
English fans booing Mayweather can they not for once be good losers? what a shower of c***ts
Right fellas im off to bed,Goodnight lads
ps did everyone else see the two busty ladies in the gold bras at ringside,you can see them when Mayweather is finishing Hatton off :o
Thought you were off to bed ye dirty dog ye :D
Mayweather is a class act, he destroyed Hatton. Sad to see him stopped, just not in Mayweather's league at all. Did Hatton really think he had a chance?
Its a chance from your your woman bouncing up & down ;)
Ricky was nearly :'( at the end of tinterview there on sky. :(
i thought was a great fight. Hatton did bring out the best in mayweather like emanuel stewart said. Hatton just wouldn't move his head while moving in, even though his corner told him too every round. Interesting to see that all of the judges had mayweather ahead by 6/7 rounds, thought it was closer than that.
Some performance from the world's best boxer
Correct, Floyd is No 1.!!!!
Wow! What can you say? Devastating performance from Mayweather. He talked the talk and walked the walk - I said earlier in this thread that mentioning him in the same breath as Ali was not fanciful and he proved it tonight.
The referee interfered too much in the start but from about round three onwards I thought he was fine apart from the point deduction which there was no need for. That said (and Nicky Piper was the only one who pointed it out in the Sky studio) that we saw Cortez in the dressing rooms saying there would be point deductions with no warning.
Ian Darke and Jim Watt should really look at themselves as emotion got the better of sound judgement. How in the name of God they had Hatton down just a poiint after 6 rounds I don't know. They said HBO had him a point up which seems ridiculous as it means Hatton was given four of the first six rounds. I had Hatton probably winning round 2 and definitely round 5 where they lent on the ropes the whole time. After round 8 which I had as 10-8 Mayweather I thought it was 5-2 Mayweather and one drawn round so with the point decution and a two point round in 8, meant that Hatton needed a knock down to even draw the fight.
In general was really disappointed in Sky's coverage - for God's sake they said the British fans behaved impeccably! There were only a "few fans booing the anthem apparently. Also the Sky studio analysts seemed to think Mayweather hadn't been in with "tough" opponents before. I mean he has beaten three of the toughest, meanest Mexican warriors of recent years. Also I can't believe they were so surprised Hatton couldn't hurt him - De La Hoya is so much bigger than Hatton and a bigger puncher to boot and he never had him hurt.
Great fight, amazing fighter. Hatton is excellent champion but Mayweather truly is an exceptional talent and an all time great. Bring on Cotto!
Heganboy, did they give the judges socrecards? I didn't hear them but I was closer to their opinion of the fight than an emotionally charged Sky!
Mayweather proved last night that he is in a different class to hatton, once again people let the british media fool them into believing the utter nonsense that the write!
Used one of them fecking internet links for the fight. Great for a while but sure it collapsed in round 6!
Reacted quickly to get Radio 5 live on the Virgin digital. Then couldn't work out when my internet didn't after that. I'd pulled the f**king plug out getting the radio now!
Cheats never prosper.............................
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2007, 11:22:33 AM
Why to feck did I do that?
I feel like dung. I'm away to get a cowl breeze about me.
station do u never sleep--i was too tired so went 2bed at 2 yet ur on here about 6am and now again at 11
does the bored pay u a-la GPA grants? GAA Board grants!
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 09, 2007, 03:15:46 AM
Hey Square Ball what are you doing up i thought you were going to go asleep and find out who won in the morning!!
I went to bed at about a quarter to two, diddnt logg off as usual, only up but from the reaction on here it was a great performance from Mayweather.
Quote from: CiKe on December 09, 2007, 06:12:39 AM
Heganboy, did they give the judges socrecards? I didn't hear them but I was closer to their opinion of the fight than an emotionally charged Sky!
The judges' scores at the time of the stoppage were: 88-82, 89-81, 89-81.
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2007, 11:22:33 AM
Why to feck did I do that?
I feel like dung. I'm away to get a cowl breeze about me.
I know how you feel im wreaked too
I had it 88-82 as well and think they were fairly accurate. Six rounds to two for Mayweather with one drawn, one of which was 10-8 and then the points deduction.
The judges in the undercard fight between Ponce de Leon and Escobedo were a joke. I only from round five on but the challenger won at least three of those and ccording to the commentators the first couple, yet somehow he won only two wounds on one judge's card.
The lacy-manfredo fight was horrible to watch - Calzaghe seems to have well and truly destroyed Lacy's career, way beyond what one defeat would ordinarily do. Looked totally ponderous altogether.
The K.O.
Mayweather is awesome. Reminds me of Sugar Ray Robinson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe1rbp9aHnY
Quote from: Over the Bar on December 09, 2007, 12:31:26 PM
The K.O.
Mayweather is awesome. Reminds me of Sugar Ray Robinson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe1rbp9aHnY
first time I have seen that punch, nailled him well
Perfeck knockout. He might talk the talk a bit too much but when ya can walk the walk as well as he can there's no arguing
I'd be a Hatton fan, but Mayweather was a class apart last night. Hatton throw most of the punches but didn't really get anywhere. Everytime Mayweather extended his arm Hatton was rocked. Notice when they showed a few slow mo seconds at the end of each round, and Hatton took a lot of slaps.
It had to be the worst, most officious boxing ref I ever saw too!
He was too interfering but I did actually agree with the point deduction, I know Mayweather turned but he still knowingly swung for the back of his head. After the first 2 rounds Hatton was handed a boxing lesson as I expected, didn't think he would KO him though. Hatton seemed to be hinting at dropping back down to light-welter again but he should stay at 147lb and fight De La Hoya because he's alredy proven himself at light-welter and to be considered a great boxer like Mayweather or DLH he's got to be prepared to move weights to fight the best around.
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2007, 05:39:18 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 09, 2007, 05:36:47 AM
ps did everyone else see the two busty ladies in the gold bras at ringside,you can see them when Mayweather is finishing Hatton off :o
I was just going to say. The one on the right was bouncing up and down.
I knew you'd notice that.
It may have been after 5am in the morning but my babe radar was still in working order :)
boys you were listening to Ian Darke and Jim Watt too much. Cortes was terrible in the first three rounds but was fine thereafter. Hatton can have no quibbles about the point deduction. Jim Watt is an ex world champion and should know that Hatton didn't have to land that punch to be deducted a point - his frustration just got the better of him.
Hatton was talking about Mayweather using forearms etc - I thought Mayweather did that very cleverly and used the forearms to leverage room to then tee off on him. The only one I saw throw a blatant forearm/elbow was Hatton himself in one of the early rounds (think could have been round two). Mayweather was just cuter in every department.
I disagree with Rav, hatton should not stay at welterweight as he doesn't have the power to hurt the bigger men. I've said numerous times that I think Collazo beat him. There are bigger punchers than Mayweather at welterweight and I would be worried about Hatton being to brave for his own good. Himself against Ricardo Torres could be a great scrap while it lasted (this guy is probably the closest to knocking out Cotto in an absolute war a couple of years back before getting KO'ed himself). Malignaggi is an interesting fight for Hatton - wouldn't be able to hurt Hatton at all but the guy is very slick and slippery.
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 09, 2007, 10:13:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2007, 05:39:18 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 09, 2007, 05:36:47 AM
ps did everyone else see the two busty ladies in the gold bras at ringside,you can see them when Mayweather is finishing Hatton off :o
I was just going to say. The one on the right was bouncing up and down.
I knew you'd notice that.
It may have been after 5am in the morning but my babe radar was still in working order :)
So thats what the kids are calling it these days... ;)
cike you may be able to answer this. was the guy manfredo that fought lacy the same guy that one 'the fighter' tv show? if it is him i believe calzaghe hammered the head of him in about 2 rounds at the start of the year.
Dunno if he was on a tv show, but Calzaghe did beat him
Quote from: gander on December 10, 2007, 09:48:59 AM
Dunno if he was on a tv show, but Calzaghe did beat him
The show was "The Contender" i think, the one Stallone was involved in.
Quote from: SeanSouth on December 10, 2007, 10:00:36 AM
Quote from: gander on December 10, 2007, 09:48:59 AM
Dunno if he was on a tv show, but Calzaghe did beat him
The show was "The Contender" i think, the one Stallone was involved in.
the contender is the name of the show alright. calzaghe did beat him. beat him well. i think manfredos corner threw the towel in in round 2. was out with a crowd of lads watching the fight on saturday night, i was arguing that calzaghe had beaten both manfredo and lacy but they wouldnt believe me. manfredo didnt even look in decent shape.
Mayewather well deserved for the win. I have to laugh after hearing so many people talking about Mayweather before the fight, the amount of people that hated him because he was too arrogant, many of them of course would say how much they loved Ali...
Sky were very biased, Hatton knew what he was at when he threw the punch to the back of Mayweathers head. Also the ref had to break them up when they clinched and held, though he may hve done it a bit too quickly at times. Hatton has great heart and just kept going after Floyd but Floyd was just too classy and good on the night. Both men are a credit, great entertainment pre fight and for the last few months and while the fight itself was no means a classic it was worth staying up to watch.
Also disgracful that the English fans booed the American national anthem but other than that they added a great atmosphere to the night.
Quote from: Galwaybhoy on December 10, 2007, 02:09:54 PM
Mayewather well deserved for the win. I have to laugh after hearing so many people talking about Mayweather before the fight, the amount of people that hated him because he was too arrogant, many of them of course would say how much they loved Ali...
Sky were very biased, Hatton knew what he was at when he threw the punch to the back of Mayweathers head. Also the ref had to break them up when they clinched and held, though he may hve done it a bit too quickly at times. Hatton has great heart and just kept going after Floyd but Floyd was just too classy and good on the night. Both men are a credit, great entertainment pre fight and for the last few months and while the fight itself was no means a classic it was worth staying up to watch.
Also disgracful that the English fans booed the American national anthem but other than that they added a great atmosphere to the night.
Agree with every word or that.
Whatever about Sky's Hatton bias, I've been watching the highlights on YouTube and the HBO analyst "Lederman" had the fight level after 7, 66 apiece. He gave Mayweather the 7th, meaning that even though Hatton had been deducted a point, he had him AHEAD going into the 7th! Who the hell hires these guys?!
The hbo guys are not to be sniffed at on their boxing knowledge. They score not on how theysee the fight but based on how the judges have scored fights previously. In this case they felt that the judges involved tended to favor agression over inaction and it was on that basis that they scored fight.
Hatton knew he needed the knockout going into the 9th, and his corner told him. I disagree with the post above, I thought it was a great fight. The contrast in the boxers was amazing, and mayweather's preparation for the fight was exceptional. Hatton went in to the fight in exceptional physical condition, but his preparation on the body suit strapped to his trainer just wasn't remotely close to the narrow side on profile mayweather presented. Hatton's head movement was not even close to where it needed to be and his reach disadvantage meant that on charge after charge mayweather was catching him with strong punches on the way in. I also think that this performance from mayweather was miles ahead of that vs de la hoya. Some people say that de la hoya was always "in" the fight. I say that's because floyd was so far ahead of him that he could coast, that there was a split decision in that fight was a disgrace. I think hatton would beat de la hoya. Mayweather's camp knew hatton was more dangerous than oscar and treated the fight as such.
And mafredo and lacy were both beaten by welsh joe. Both looked poor on the undercard, probably understandable for lacy as it was his first time in the ring after reconstructive shoulder surgery, but all the same it was an awful fight. And manfredo was the guy from the contender, the calzaghe fight was far too soon for him, that he lasted the two rounds was a testimony to him, he was too slow too weak and too naïve for calzaghe, he should have been 2 years before he took on that fight, but money talks. Manfredo looked a broken man on sat night, no confidence. Lacy didn't look much better...
Quote from: gallsman on December 10, 2007, 03:18:26 PM
Whatever about Sky's Hatton bias, I've been watching the highlights on YouTube and the HBO analyst "Lederman" had the fight level after 7, 66 apiece. He gave Mayweather the 7th, meaning that even though Hatton had been deducted a point, he had him AHEAD going into the 7th! Who the hell hires these guys?!
I wouldn't say that was too crazy. I thought it was pretty close after 6 rounds. It was only after that that Mayweather began to pull away on the scorecards IMO. Mayweather as he often does took some of the early rounds off and did very little so you'd have to give some of them to Hatton purely on aggression.
PBF showed his class in the latter part of the fight though.
QuoteI think hatton would beat de la hoya
I don't think he would to be honest unless the ring rust has really begun to take hold of De La Hoya. I thought Hatton struggled to make an impact against the bigger Mayweather and De La Hoya is bigger again and no slouch in the skills stakes either. Maybe at this stage of his career De La Hoya would gas in the later rounds and Hatton could wear him down but I think Oscar would be too big and too skillful for him.
Interesting to see what Hatton does from here. For the time being he may be better off going back to the UK and finally fighting Junior Witter who has been calling Hatton out for years now. There won't be any fight with De Lay Hoya now anyway.
Quote from: CiKe on December 10, 2007, 06:11:01 AM
I disagree with Rav, hatton should not stay at welterweight as he doesn't have the power to hurt the bigger men. I've said numerous times that I think Collazo beat him. There are bigger punchers than Mayweather at welterweight and I would be worried about Hatton being to brave for his own good. Himself against Ricardo Torres could be a great scrap while it lasted (this guy is probably the closest to knocking out Cotto in an absolute war a couple of years back before getting KO'ed himself). Malignaggi is an interesting fight for Hatton - wouldn't be able to hurt Hatton at all but the guy is very slick and slippery.
You're probably right about him not having the power to step up and hurt people the way he does at light-welterweight, but what the point I was trying to make is that in the pre-fight hype the Hatton camp and the media were building this up as the fight to decide who the best pound-for-pound in the world was. If Hatton thinks he is anywhere near the top pound-for-pound fighters then I think he has to be prepared to be a wee bit flexible in terms of what weight he fights at. Mayweather was prepared to step up to junior-middle to fight De La Hoya who (I think) had come down 7lb from his previous fight at middleweight. Those two have won world titles at 5 and 6 different weight categories respectively. If Hatton believes he is one of the really top fighters then I think he has to be prepared to move up a weight and not use it as an excuse for being outboxed. If he does drop back down a weight again though, Malignaggi or Junior Witter would be capable opponents but wouldn't provide the same box office $ appeal.
Rav I agree with you on that count, in order to be pound for pound number one it is almost a prerequisite to have been champion at at least two or three weights these days. I simply don't think Hatton has what it takes - the British hype machine went into overtime after the Castillo win despite the fact he looked crap against Urango not to mention should have lost against Collazo.
As Heganboy says the HBO guys are generally quite good but they got this one incredibly wrong. I'd love to hear their commentary. It was obviously late at night so I may be wrong but I'd be surprised if Hatton caught Mayweather with more than 20-25 "scoring punches" as they would be termed in the amateurs. Mayweather was landing hard stinging shots much more frequently.
Also regarding Manfredo, he should never have been in the ring with Calzaghe, not because it was two years too early but because he was never good enough and never will be. I believe the fight was stopped in the third not the second, however it was stopped very prematurely as Calzaghe threw a multitdue of punches, most of which came nowhere near to Manfredo as he ducked and dived on the ropes.
Fights I want to see next:
Mayweather vs Cotto
Hatton vs Cotto
Calzaghe vs Hopkins
Pacquiao vs Marquez II
Pavlik vs Abraham
Vasquez vs Marquez
Donaire vs Darchinyan/Arce
Fights i want to see:
1. Rocky Balboa v Clubber Lang
2. A wee blonde v a wee brunette over me
3. Ivan Drago v Tommy Gunn
4. Kiko Martinez v Wayne (World Chempian) McCullough