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Title: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Blacksheep on May 18, 2007, 08:44:49 AM
Derry team named for Sunday.

Derry: J McEldowney, S McCullagh, M Conway, R McCloskey, P O'Kane, L Hinphey, C Brunton, K Hinphey, R Convery, O McCloskey, C Quinn, R Kennedy, S McBride, D McSorley, SL McGoldrick.
Subs: D McDermott, G O'Kane, P McCloskey, B Dodds, S Henry, S Bradley, C McQuillan, M Craig, N Bradley, G Kelly, M Kirkpatrick, S Dodds, E McGuigan, P McGlade. 

Looks like full strenght but after the performance last week against Armagh there'll not be many travelling down to casement full of optimisim. Any word of the Down team?
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Aristotle Flynn on May 18, 2007, 09:13:32 AM
There'll not be much interest in this in Down with the footballers playing the same day. Pity. I wonder did they consider a double header?
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: johnneycool on May 18, 2007, 10:15:38 AM
Down team to be named tonight. All cloak and dagger at the minute.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 18, 2007, 10:49:51 AM
Think the Derry side are a bit light/inexperienced in the forwards
I'd move convery into CHF and Peter O'Kane beck into MF.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: leamtaighabu on May 18, 2007, 02:32:46 PM
not exactly impressed with this team...ok..defence & midfield is good enough but the forwards are very poor with no score takers or makers amongst them...Down will hardly be shaking in their boots at that forward line.. ???
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Bacon on May 20, 2007, 11:13:25 AM
Down: Graham Clarke; L Clarke, S Murray (c), F Conway; M Ennis, A Dynes, Gabriel Clarke; A Savage, B McGourty; C Coulter, G Johnston, E Trainor; E Clarke, G Savage, A Bell.

It will be interesting to see how Gazza performs. He always gives 100% but I didn't think he was effective at no 14 for Ballycran in the County final. No place for Courtney from Newry? He's been excellent this year so far. Overall it as good as we can get now adays. Good luck to the lads this afternoon.







Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Lecale2 on May 20, 2007, 12:51:27 PM
No idea why Courtney isn't starting. If he's fit I would have expected him to line out in the starting 15. Heading over to Casement now & hoping to get to Newry as well. They don't make it easy for us with the fixtures!
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on May 20, 2007, 03:33:11 PM
Ended it all square. Derry 0-16 Down 1-13. Repley next week. Armagh will be kicking themselves.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Lecale2 on May 20, 2007, 07:18:19 PM
Very poor game. The chances Down missed were unbelievable. On the plus side G Johnton was outstanding and Courtney was excellent when he came on early in 2nd half. Otherwise a very poor game of hurling.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on May 20, 2007, 07:27:14 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on May 20, 2007, 07:18:19 PM
Very poor game. The chances Down missed were unbelievable. On the plus side G Johnton was outstanding and Courtney was excellent when he came on early in 2nd half. Otherwise a very poor game of hurling.

Antrim have been playing very poor this year as well. I'm sure the winners will some what fancy there chances.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Guillem2 on May 20, 2007, 07:54:40 PM
I saw the second half of the game. Thank God I didn't have to pay in. It was dreadful. The misses from from open play and frees were unbelievable. The Antrim management will ne laughing themselves to sleep tonight. The pick of those two teams won't trouble Antrim - be honest you all know that! Down simply don't have the hurlers any more and ther MOM was McGrourty - an Antrim man.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Syd on May 21, 2007, 09:41:11 AM
Quote from: Guillem2 on May 20, 2007, 07:54:40 PM
Down simply don't have the hurlers any more

And Antrim do? We cant ake anything for granted with the way things are going. A pub team (London) scored 3 goals against us.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 21, 2007, 09:55:32 AM
not a bad result for a youthful Derry side.

If we can keep this going, and maybe take a few of the boys back from the football squad, then an ulster crown might not be that far away (all it takes is Antrim and/orDown to also not hit form on the day - which is usual it seems in Ulster hurling)
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Will Hunting on May 21, 2007, 11:28:06 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on May 21, 2007, 09:55:32 AM
and maybe take a few of the boys back from the football squad

You watch it Lynchbhoy!! :o
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: johnneycool on May 21, 2007, 08:13:00 PM
Wasn't at the game but Courtney didn't start the game as he's been studying for his finals exams the last few weeks and his last exam was on saturday morning. He's expected to start on saturday. Paddy Hughes was also missing due to exams.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 22, 2007, 09:17:36 AM
Quote from: Will Hunting on May 21, 2007, 11:28:06 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on May 21, 2007, 09:55:32 AM
and maybe take a few of the boys back from the football squad

You watch it Lynchbhoy!! :o
well they are wasting their time playuing under paddy crozier...
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: leamtaighabu on May 22, 2007, 10:17:34 AM
as i said last week...derry's defence an midfield will be competitive but our forwards are poor...very poor...there is no one there that you could say will gurantee you 3-4 scores or the odd goal...they also do not have a great ball winning ability..need to keep the ball in the forwards so as to relieve the defence from constant pressure...a simple tactic of stop giving away frees will seriously limit our scoring potential...or even worse...if convery has an off day..
more scoring forwards in derry available...why are they not on ?? ??? ???
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Derry Daisy on May 22, 2007, 10:29:22 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on May 21, 2007, 09:55:32 AM
If we can keep this going, and maybe take a few of the boys back from the football squad

Lynchbhoy just curious as to who your referring to here?  Who would you bring in??

I agree with leamtaighabu, derry's forwards are very poor and depend far too much on big ruairi to take the scores.  There's bound to be better within the county!!!!
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 22, 2007, 11:25:38 AM
Quote from: Derry Daisy on May 22, 2007, 10:29:22 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on May 21, 2007, 09:55:32 AM
If we can keep this going, and maybe take a few of the boys back from the football squad

Lynchbhoy just curious as to who your referring to here?  Who would you bring in??

I agree with leamtaighabu, derry's forwards are very poor and depend far too much on big ruairi to take the scores.  There's bound to be better within the county!!!!

Mark Lynch for starters.
by all accounts worth his place on the hurling senior side if he was able to give it 100%
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: leamtaighabu on May 22, 2007, 12:30:59 PM
agree that lynch would be a good addition...so also would kevin mccloy...but being realistic that is not going to happen...
i could nearly gurantee that most of those starting forwards will not be starring for their respective clubs in the club ch'ship's...
there is definitely the basis of a good squad here an the ulster final is well within grasp...
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: leamtaighabu on May 22, 2007, 12:33:35 PM
cathal mckeever is probably another who could push for the hurling team...possibly as a half back mid-fielder releasing convery to the chf position...
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 22, 2007, 12:44:20 PM
Quote from: leamtaighabu on May 22, 2007, 12:33:35 PM
cathal mckeever is probably another who could push for the hurling team...possibly as a half back mid-fielder releasing convery to the chf position...
either he or Peter okane play wing half back with the other going to MF, then allowing Convery to CHF.
Think the forwards are a bit young and small...
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: oakleaf stateside on May 22, 2007, 08:27:23 PM
mc keever beat the derry team on his own when he played for ny y is he not on the panal?
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 23, 2007, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: oakleaf stateside on May 22, 2007, 08:27:23 PM
mc keever beat the derry team on his own when he played for ny y is he not on the panal?

think he opted for the football panel.
Doubt very much if the hurlers would leave him off if he was interested.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: oakleaf stateside on May 23, 2007, 12:42:21 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on May 23, 2007, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: oakleaf stateside on May 22, 2007, 08:27:23 PM
mc keever beat the derry team on his own when he played for ny y is he not on the panal?

think he opted for the football panel.
Doubt very much if the hurlers would leave him off if he was interested.

thinking that. the word is that he is goin 2 live and play for carmen next year
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 23, 2007, 01:12:08 PM
Quote from: oakleaf stateside on May 23, 2007, 12:42:21 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on May 23, 2007, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: oakleaf stateside on May 22, 2007, 08:27:23 PM
mc keever beat the derry team on his own when he played for ny y is he not on the panal?
think he opted for the football panel.
Doubt very much if the hurlers would leave him off if he was interested.
thinking that. the word is that he is goin 2 live and play for carmen next year
cant blame him
work isnt great round that neck of the woods right now, and the current Derry boss less than inspiring, so I cant see him wanting to stick around after this season.
It largely depends on how KL get on in their championship.
If they happened to somehow win the ulster, then he will be back off to the states (and several players will retire)
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Lecale2 on May 25, 2007, 11:50:23 AM
Anybody going to the replay tomorrow? I hope the minor final before the main match is a bit closer than last year.

BBC
Three changes for Derry hurlers 

Derry have made three changes for Sunday's Guinness Ulster Senior Hurling semi-final replay against Down at Casement Park (1530 BST).
Stephen Henry replaces Cathal Brunton at left half-back while the other changes come in the attack.

Gareth O'Kane takes oven from Oisin McCloskey at right half-forward while Gavin Kelly is picked at right full-forward in place of Sean McBride.

The sides drew 0-16 to 1-13 in last weekend's drawn encounter.

Ruairi Convery hit 11 points for Derry including the injury-time equaliser.




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Derry: J McEldowney, S McCullagh, M Conway, R McCloskey, P O'Kane, L Hinphey, S Henry, K Hinphey, R Convery, G O'Kane, C Quinn, R Kennedy, G Kelly, D McSorley, SL McGoldrick. Subs: D McDermott, O McCloskey, P McCloskey, B Dodds, C Brunton, S Bradley, C McQuillan, M Craig, N Bradley, S McBride, M Kirkpatrick, S Dodds, E McGuigan, P McGlade.

Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Whitehair on May 25, 2007, 01:59:25 PM
Down: Graham Clarke, L Clarke, S Murray, F Conway, G Clarke, A Dynes, M Ennis, B McGourty, A Savage, E Trainor, C Courtney, J Trainor, E Clarke, G Johnston, P Coulter.


Jerome Trainor, Ciaran Courtney and Paddy Coulter after drafted into the attack with Andy Bell, Gary Savage and Ciaran Coulter losing out.  Acording to the BBC.

I'l be going down tommorrow and I feel the minors have a real chance, they won the U-16 milk games at this age level and in mal magee and Conor Woods they'l have two of the best players on the pitch. Ive played in two minor championships in recent years and i feel this team has scoring forwards something which the teams in the last few years have been missing. Antrim always seem to score two goals in the first ten minutes at this level ending the contest, prevent that and we'l have a game!
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: robertemmet on May 25, 2007, 02:10:29 PM
The Derry website www.derrygaa.ie  has a poll to vote for who will win the replay tomorrow.  Derry are winning the poll, but will they win the game
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: leamtaighabu on May 25, 2007, 03:09:51 PM
i am going to go for a derry win by 4 pts...
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Lecale2 on May 26, 2007, 03:37:13 PM
Minor result: Antrim 2-14 3-08 Down. Level going into injury 3 late points from Hamill won it for Antrim.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Lecale2 on May 26, 2007, 04:00:15 PM
Latest: Derry 0-06 2-01 Down after 20 minutes.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: screenexile on May 26, 2007, 05:29:46 PM

Result: Derry 1-15 5-16 Down
Guinness Ulster SHC semi-final replay

Saturday - Casement Park

Derry 1-15 5-16 Down

bbc.co.uk
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Syd on May 26, 2007, 06:50:56 PM
Derry started ok but Conway had a nightmare at FB on Johnson before he was moved. Derry keeper was atrocious. At fault for at least 3 goals.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: whiskeysteve on May 26, 2007, 07:41:35 PM
who played well for derry?
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Syd on May 26, 2007, 08:00:41 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on May 26, 2007, 07:41:35 PM
who played well for derry?

Convery kept them in it with frees but didnt contribute much from general play. Hinphey tried hard but didnt get much support.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Whitehair on May 26, 2007, 08:01:04 PM
The senior match was atrocious, probably the worst standard of a match i've witnessed between down/derry/antrim. The game was littered by poor lifting, ground striking and on too many occasions players were taking the ball on their stick instead of in the hand and then getting dispossed. Nearly all six goals came from errors from the opposition instead of good play, which says alot! Convery scored 1.9, pointed a penalty for derry, Magic scored 2goals as did eoin clarke, think paddy coulter got the other as well as a few points. Down must improve alot for next week, in the first half they missed about five scoreable dead ball chances. Had derry not conceded those first two soft goals they had the game there for the taking.(Micky Conway should have been sent off in the first half after playing poorly, lifted Eoin Clarke who has on the ground into the air by his helmet before dumping him.)

Hard luck to the down minors who made a great comeback from being roughly 12 points down at one stage to nearly snatching a draw. Darren Hamill scored about 1.6 for antrim, think hippy donnelly got the other, Padraig flynn did an admirable job on him when switched after antrims early onslaught. Downs goals came from james coyle, aidan clarke and a conor woods penalty, paul keith hit two or three good points from play. Must commend Desy Mc Nally the antrim keeper who pulled off a brilliant save from nearly the last puck of the ball to prevent a replay.
Title: Re: USHC Derry v Down
Post by: Lecale2 on May 27, 2007, 08:42:59 AM
Down 5-16 Derry 1-15
Saturday, 26 May 2007 19:19

Down won through to next weekend's Ulster SHC final with a well-merited 5-16 to 1-15 replay win over Derry at Casement Park.

Full-forward Gareth 'Magic' Johnson certainly lived up to his nickname as he collected 3-05 in an eye-catching display.

The Mourne men led 3-05 to 0-08 at half-time, with Johnson netting twice and corner-forward Eoin Clarke also scoring a goal.

Derry were over reliant on free-taker Ruairi Convery, who finished with 1-10. Convery found the net, three minutes after the break, but Down, with Clarke scoring 2-02, replied strongly to set up a decider against champions Antrim.

It was Down's ability to find goals and take their scores from play that ultimately proved.

Derry made the perfect start to the contest with points from Davin McSorley and Convery (0-02) to take a 0-03 to 0-00 lead after seven minutes, but Down were not without their own chances - Ger Coulter's side had three missed efforts from full-forward Johnson before the Ballygalget clubman notched a blistering goal to level the contest in the 14th-minute.

However, Derry were soon back in the ascendancy with two fine points from play from Convery and Sean Leo McGoldrick before Convery converted his third point of the game from a free.

Down were adding to their wides tally but responded well with their first point of the game, midway through the half, which 'Magic' Johnson rifled over.

Derry were forced to pay for a mistake in defence by their goalkeeper Joe McEldowney, which allowed Eoin Clarke to break through for the first of his brace of goals in the 19th-minute.

Down were certainly in spritely form at this stage and added a point before Johnson found the back of the net for a second time after a mistake by Derry full-back Michael Conway - the goal opened up a five-point gap for the Mourne men.

A foul on Gareth O'Kane by Stephen Murray offered Derry a 25th-minute penalty but ace attacker Convery failed to send the ball to the net, instead creaping his shot over the bar.

Tension grew with Derry half-back Stephen Henry and Down's Eoin Clarke both receiving yellow cards, before Jerome Trainor was involved in an off-the-ball incident. A subsequent point from Brendan McGourty kept Down ticking.

Down turned around with a 3-05 to 0-08 buffer and although Convery found the back of the net, three minutes after the break, to cut the deficit to three points, Down excelled with Johnson firmly on song to complete his hat-trick of goals by the 51st-minute.

Despite some rallying scores from Convery, including a well-taken goal, Down progressed to the final as they continue their hunt for a first Ulster senior title since 1997.

DOWN: Graham Clarke; L Clarke, S Murray, F Conway; G Clarke, A Dynes, M Ennis; A Savage, B McGourty (0-3); P Coulter (0-1), K Courtney (0-4), J Trainor; E Clarke (2-2), G Johnson (3-5), E Trainor (0-1).

Subs used: P Hughes for Dynes (42 mins), C McManus for E Clarke (64).

DERRY: J McEldowney; S McCullagh, M Conway, R McCloskey; P O'Kane, L Hinphey, S Henry; K Hinphey, R Convery (1-10, 1-7f, 0-1 pen); G O'Kane, C Quinn, R Kennedy; G Kelly, D McSorley (0-2), SL McGoldrick (0-2).

Subs used: S McBride for Conway (45 mins), M Craig (0-1) for Kennedy (56).

Referee: Fergus Smith (Meath)