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Title: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: T Fearon on February 23, 2017, 10:41:35 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/its-cut-after-cut-tyrone-player-unimpressed-after-being-asked-to-make-contribution-to-cost-of-sport-equipment-35477252.html
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: screenexile on February 24, 2017, 10:05:35 AM
You see what happens when Tony starts a thread it gets completely ignored!!

A better version of the story on the newstalk website...

http://www.newstalk.com/tyrone-footballers-funding-issues

Interesting stuff!!
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: rosnarun on February 24, 2017, 10:25:12 AM
are tyrone the Arsenal of the gaa
they're pretty good , haven't won in ages , manger  there way too long has be come a paranoid
Dictator , but by Christ they are going to keep a tight reign on the purse strings
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: screenexile on February 24, 2017, 11:19:28 AM
Probably still trying to recoup the cost of that diving pool in Cavanagh's back garden . . . he needs the practice in fairness!!
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: heffo on February 24, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

You're dead right Dinny - the huge British tax payer funded grants to the Ulster council which coincided with the Armagh & Tyrone wins can't have been a coincidence?

Then again Kildare had the most expensive training setup in the country along with the most expensive management team. Plus a centre of excellent. At a time when Dublin were training on a cow field in Inisfails - yet Kildare couldn't win a raffle or hit a barn door with a football from 20 meters. Go figure.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: AZOffaly on February 24, 2017, 01:04:53 PM
heffo, does the money make no difference then?
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: heffo on February 24, 2017, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 24, 2017, 01:04:53 PM
heffo, does the money make no difference then?

Well Kildare couldn't make it count yet the Nordies did.

So maybe in general you need once in a generation footballers, top class volunteer structures and a little spice of funding on top.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: AZOffaly on February 24, 2017, 01:09:58 PM
Agreed. The money matters, but you have to spend it wisely, and have raw materials to work with. Of course when some of the money is ploughed into mining the raw material, that helps too :)
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: Syferus on February 24, 2017, 01:25:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

They ain't gonna win it with all the money in the world.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on February 24, 2017, 05:30:16 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 24, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

You're dead right Dinny - the huge British tax payer funded grants to the Ulster council which coincided with the Armagh & Tyrone wins can't have been a coincidence?

Then again Kildare had the most expensive training setup in the country along with the most expensive management team. Plus a centre of excellent. At a time when Dublin were training on a cow field in Inisfails - yet Kildare couldn't win a raffle or hit a barn door with a football from 20 meters. Go figure.

I've played on that cowfield, it'd be up there with pitches other county teams train on. Probably better than some county grounds too.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 25, 2017, 08:42:46 AM
None is so blind as the one that refuses to see. Some day the penny will drop alas it's already too late to save the Leinster championship. Munster pretty much gone now as well. Money wins.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: Throw ball on February 25, 2017, 09:53:40 AM
Quote from: heffo on February 24, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

You're dead right Dinny - the huge British tax payer funded grants to the Ulster council which coincided with the Armagh & Tyrone wins can't have been a coincidence?

Then again Kildare had the most expensive training setup in the country along with the most expensive management team. Plus a centre of excellent. At a time when Dublin were training on a cow field in Inisfails - yet Kildare couldn't win a raffle or hit a barn door with a football from 20 meters. Go figure.

I would like to see all this money the British gave to help Armagh win an All Ireland. In the 90s due to Drumcree there were times Armagh couldn't train within the county for safety reasons. In the 2000s they didn't have a county ground to play on. Home championship games were played in Clones. Currently the county training facilities are basic at best. Meanwhile the Dubs get more money from Croke Park than others,  have the best sponsorship and the biggest pick.
I have no doubt that finance is having a major influence. It is more important now than at any time in history.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: vallankumous on February 25, 2017, 10:01:26 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on February 25, 2017, 09:53:40 AM

I would like to see all this money the British gave to help Armagh win an All Ireland. In the 90s due to Drumcree there were times Armagh couldn't train within the county for safety reasons. In the 2000s they didn't have a county ground to play on. Home championship games were played in Clones. Currently the county training facilities are basic at best. Meanwhile the Dubs get more money from Croke Park than others,  have the best sponsorship and the biggest pick.
I have no doubt that finance is having a major influence. It is more important now than at any time in history.

Yes, it's massive.
Is it true that the St VIncents players all took the week preceding their All Ireland final off work to help prepare? Who could finance that?
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on February 25, 2017, 01:18:30 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 24, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.


You're dead right Dinny - the huge British tax payer funded grants to the Ulster council which coincided with the Armagh & Tyrone wins can't have been a coincidence?


Of course you will be unable to substantiate that.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2017, 01:22:34 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 24, 2017, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 24, 2017, 01:04:53 PM
heffo, does the money make no difference then?

Well Kildare couldn't make it count yet the Nordies did.

So maybe in general you need once in a generation footballers, top class volunteer structures and a little spice of funding on top.

The Troubles and previously the establishment of NI got in the way of the Northern counties winning all Irelands. Kildare haven't won Sam since 1928 so have psychological issues that Throne didn't have .
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: T Fearon on February 25, 2017, 05:26:34 PM
Funny that, as Down won three All Irelands in the 1960s,when discrimination was rife
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on February 25, 2017, 06:02:55 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2017, 05:26:34 PM
Funny that, as Down won three All Irelands in the 1960s,when discrimination was rife

Funny that Down weren't really that active in the troubles.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2017, 06:39:18 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2017, 05:26:34 PM
Funny that, as Down won three All Irelands in the 1960s,when discrimination was rife
They were part of the changes of the 60s that led to the Troubles. If there had been no violence I think Armagh, Derry and Tyrone  would have won an All Ireland a few decades earlier

Galway,  Meath and Down really opened things up in the 1960s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDzueyAM3Fo
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: ONeill on February 25, 2017, 10:02:47 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM


The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

Agree with this.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: RedHandTom on February 25, 2017, 10:21:36 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 24, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

You're dead right Dinny - the huge British tax payer funded grants to the Ulster council which coincided with the Armagh & Tyrone wins can't have been a coincidence?

Then again Kildare had the most expensive training setup in the country along with the most expensive management team. Plus a centre of excellent. At a time when Dublin were training on a cow field in Inisfails - yet Kildare couldn't win a raffle or hit a barn door with a football from 20 meters. Go figure.

What "grants" did these counties get? Genuinely looking forward to your reply
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on February 25, 2017, 10:27:13 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on February 25, 2017, 10:21:36 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 24, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

You're dead right Dinny - the huge British tax payer funded grants to the Ulster council which coincided with the Armagh & Tyrone wins can't have been a coincidence?

Then again Kildare had the most expensive training setup in the country along with the most expensive management team. Plus a centre of excellent. At a time when Dublin were training on a cow field in Inisfails - yet Kildare couldn't win a raffle or hit a barn door with a football from 20 meters. Go figure.

What "grants" did these counties get? Genuinely looking forward to your reply

He won't be able to answer you that.

He just puts it out there without any knowledge, in the hope that it will somehow validate the money Dublin's mega grants.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: heffo on February 28, 2017, 03:18:13 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on February 25, 2017, 10:27:13 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on February 25, 2017, 10:21:36 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 24, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

You're dead right Dinny - the huge British tax payer funded grants to the Ulster council which coincided with the Armagh & Tyrone wins can't have been a coincidence?

Then again Kildare had the most expensive training setup in the country along with the most expensive management team. Plus a centre of excellent. At a time when Dublin were training on a cow field in Inisfails - yet Kildare couldn't win a raffle or hit a barn door with a football from 20 meters. Go figure.

What "grants" did these counties get? Genuinely looking forward to your reply

He won't be able to answer you that.

He just puts it out there without any knowledge, in the hope that it will somehow validate the money Dublin's mega grants.

It doesn't quite equate with coaching primary school kids, but the 120m is small potatoes - that's 120m on top of the funding they get from the GAA

https://books.google.dk/books?id=eOL4AwAAQBAJ&pg=PT125&lpg=PT125&dq=ulster+council+gaa+%2B+british+grants&source=bl&ots=jQj_CiGlk9&sig=fVYc-JVINb1cb7CwSJ6tItUR-1s&hl=da&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiO2JKlirPSAhWDVywKHZt5AL44ChDoAQhLMAY#v=onepage&q=ulster%20council%20gaa%20%2B%20british%20grants&f=false

"In 2005 the Ulster Council secretary Danny Murphy threatened to sue the Department of Culture, Arts and Leisure for inequality of funding. Rather than going to court, the British Govt decided to pony up....an estimated 120m in British public money"

Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: SG08 on February 28, 2017, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 28, 2017, 03:18:13 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on February 25, 2017, 10:27:13 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on February 25, 2017, 10:21:36 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 24, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Inequality of wealth and the co-relationship to success. Where have we discussed this before? I'm just amused that it took the media so long to get on board when we've been beating this drum, well apart from those that seem to think it's all about natural talent and special players, for the best part of 5 years.

The Tyrone players have a point but also their CB have a point, this isn't a Tyrone problem this is a GAA problem, created by themselves. It nearly killed Kildare GAA trying to keep up, good to see common sense in Tyrone, it will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

You're dead right Dinny - the huge British tax payer funded grants to the Ulster council which coincided with the Armagh & Tyrone wins can't have been a coincidence?

Then again Kildare had the most expensive training setup in the country along with the most expensive management team. Plus a centre of excellent. At a time when Dublin were training on a cow field in Inisfails - yet Kildare couldn't win a raffle or hit a barn door with a football from 20 meters. Go figure.

What "grants" did these counties get? Genuinely looking forward to your reply

He won't be able to answer you that.

He just puts it out there without any knowledge, in the hope that it will somehow validate the money Dublin's mega grants.

It doesn't quite equate with coaching primary school kids, but the 120m is small potatoes - that's 120m on top of the funding they get from the GAA

https://books.google.dk/books?id=eOL4AwAAQBAJ&pg=PT125&lpg=PT125&dq=ulster+council+gaa+%2B+british+grants&source=bl&ots=jQj_CiGlk9&sig=fVYc-JVINb1cb7CwSJ6tItUR-1s&hl=da&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiO2JKlirPSAhWDVywKHZt5AL44ChDoAQhLMAY#v=onepage&q=ulster%20council%20gaa%20%2B%20british%20grants&f=false

"In 2005 the Ulster Council secretary Danny Murphy threatened to sue the Department of Culture, Arts and Leisure for inequality of funding. Rather than going to court, the British Govt decided to pony up....an estimated 120m in British public money"



Since 2005. So after Tyrone had won 2 of their all-irelands (assuming the whole grant wasn't handed over straight away) and Armagh had already won theirs.

I think it might have been more to do with the great players playing for both teams.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: valeman on February 28, 2017, 04:09:11 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on February 25, 2017, 10:01:26 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on February 25, 2017, 09:53:40 AM

I would like to see all this money the British gave to help Armagh win an All Ireland. In the 90s due to Drumcree there were times Armagh couldn't train within the county for safety reasons. In the 2000s they didn't have a county ground to play on. Home championship games were played in Clones. Currently the county training facilities are basic at best. Meanwhile the Dubs get more money from Croke Park than others,  have the best sponsorship and the biggest pick.
I have no doubt that finance is having a major influence. It is more important now than at any time in history.

Yes, it's massive.
Is it true that the St VIncents players all took the week preceding their All Ireland final off work to help prepare? Who could finance that?

There was a video doing the rounds last week ahead of the AI Hurling Semi were the Cuala captain and the SNeil captain are being interviewed. I found it very telling that the SNeil player is talking about a manager and community spirit etc..while the Cuala player references the impact the 'Backs coaches, forwards coaches, management team and backroom team' have had. If ever there was a contrast in the haves and have nots in GAA, that is it. Clubs in Dublin operating with Backs/forwards coaches, management teams and backroom teams while most clubs have a manager(s) and a couple of boys to help with the rigs and water bottles.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: greatpoint on February 28, 2017, 04:31:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2017, 10:20:48 AMit will probably cost Tyrone an AI over the next 5 years though.

Won't cost anything if they weren't going to win it in the first place.

Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: In hiding on February 28, 2017, 04:58:42 PM
Quote from: valeman on February 28, 2017, 04:09:11 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on February 25, 2017, 10:01:26 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on February 25, 2017, 09:53:40 AM

I would like to see all this money the British gave to help Armagh win an All Ireland. In the 90s due to Drumcree there were times Armagh couldn't train within the county for safety reasons. In the 2000s they didn't have a county ground to play on. Home championship games were played in Clones. Currently the county training facilities are basic at best. Meanwhile the Dubs get more money from Croke Park than others,  have the best sponsorship and the biggest pick.
I have no doubt that finance is having a major influence. It is more important now than at any time in history.

Yes, it's massive.
Is it true that the St VIncents players all took the week preceding their All Ireland final off work to help prepare? Who could finance that?

There was a video doing the rounds last week ahead of the AI Hurling Semi were the Cuala captain and the SNeil captain are being interviewed. I found it very telling that the SNeil player is talking about a manager and community spirit etc..while the Cuala player references the impact the 'Backs coaches, forwards coaches, management team and backroom team' have had. If ever there was a contrast in the haves and have nots in GAA, that is it. Clubs in Dublin operating with Backs/forwards coaches, management teams and backroom teams while most clubs have a manager(s) and a couple of boys to help with the rigs and water bottles.
Wouldn't be sure about that Valeman. I'd say slaughtneil are as well resourced as any club in ireland. I'd guess their facilities are better than cuala's. This community spirit thing is great but if it is the reason behind slaughtneil's success then where has it been hiding up until 2014
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: longballin on February 28, 2017, 05:00:30 PM
Sean Cavanagh has issued a statement saying Tyrone players well looked after. One hand doesn't know what the other is doing in that squad it seems...
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0228/856158-cavanagh-tyrone-expenditure-issue-is-being-addres/
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: screenexile on February 28, 2017, 05:06:14 PM
Quote from: longballin on February 28, 2017, 05:00:30 PM
Sean Cavanagh has issued a statement saying Tyrone players well looked after. One hand doesn't know what the other is doing in that squad it seems...
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0228/856158-cavanagh-tyrone-expenditure-issue-is-being-addres/

Bullshit!!

Things like that don't happen in Mickey Harte's changing room there's no way the original media leak hasn't been sanctioned as well as subsequent interviews by Cavanagh and McNamee.

This has power struggle written all over it! The world and his mother know Harte and Roisin Jordan don't pull together and if she's still about come the end of the season and he hasn't won an All Ireland he'll be getting the door!!

Will he be able to oust her?? Interesting stuff!
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: In hiding on February 28, 2017, 05:15:51 PM
Haven't followed this too closely but was the £15 an amount the players had to give towards getting new mobility bands and a foam roller.
Surely every county player (and most club players) in the country have a foam roller already. This looks like the county board are supplimenting any player who wishes to purchase new stuff for themselves. This is beginning to look bad on the players. Looks like Mickey trying to create a siege mentality among the players against his victim of choice at the minute..Rosin Jordan.

But maybe that's all wrong
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: longballin on February 28, 2017, 05:27:01 PM
Thought from the start Mickey was behind the first 'leak'...
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 09:34:03 PM
of course it was harte. if roisin jordan isnt gone by the end of the year then he is gone! disgraceful stuff from harte but not surprising. he will use every trick in the book to hold on to his lucrative position.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: RedHandTom on February 28, 2017, 09:45:31 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 09:34:03 PM
of course it was harte. if roisin jordan isnt gone by the end of the year then he is gone! disgraceful stuff from harte but not surprising. he will use every trick in the book to hold on to his lucrative position.

How is it a "lucrative position" ?
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on February 28, 2017, 09:45:31 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 09:34:03 PM
of course it was harte. if roisin jordan isnt gone by the end of the year then he is gone! disgraceful stuff from harte but not surprising. he will use every trick in the book to hold on to his lucrative position.

How is it a "lucrative position" ?
well apparently he is getting paid but the real money comes from speaking at events, dinner dances, seminars etc. he gets his public profile from being the tyrone manager and so gets the gigs and the money that comes from it.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
 well if he wasnt the tyrone manager then he is a nobody. just another ex tyrone manager.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: T Fearon on February 28, 2017, 10:19:43 PM
Sean Cavanagh now says Tyrone are adequately resourced.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:34:56 PM
im not talkin just about dinner dances and the like. im talkin about big gigs. i know companies who have hired mickey harte for a days motivational talk in croke park hotel at a cost of thousands. and recently a major bank had him speaking at an event. trust me, he needs the position of tyrone manager for that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: longballin on February 28, 2017, 10:37:34 PM
On big money for Tyrone too, that's common knowledge....
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on February 28, 2017, 10:37:44 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:34:56 PM
im not talkin just about dinner dances and the like. im talkin about big gigs. i know companies who have hired mickey harte for a days motivational talk in croke park hotel at a cost of thousands. and recently a major bank had him speaking at an event. trust me, he needs the position of tyrone manager for that kind of stuff.

No he doesn't but you certainly need Harte as Tyrone manager to have any sort of relevance on here.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: heffo on February 28, 2017, 10:45:09 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
well if he wasnt the tyrone manager then he is a nobody. just another ex tyrone manager.

He has won 3 x Senior AI's as a manager - his legacy is assured.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:46:12 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on February 28, 2017, 10:37:44 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:34:56 PM
im not talkin just about dinner dances and the like. im talkin about big gigs. i know companies who have hired mickey harte for a days motivational talk in croke park hotel at a cost of thousands. and recently a major bank had him speaking at an event. trust me, he needs the position of tyrone manager for that kind of stuff.

No he doesn't but you certainly need Harte as Tyrone manager to have any sort of relevance on here.
i dont need to be relevant. im not tryin to make money off the back of tyrone. im just a mug supporter.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:52:14 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 28, 2017, 10:45:09 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
well if he wasnt the tyrone manager then he is a nobody. just another ex tyrone manager.

He has won 3 x Senior AI's as a manager - his legacy is assured.
so then he can step down this year. legacy assured, dinner dances a plenty
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: heffo on February 28, 2017, 10:59:06 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:52:14 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 28, 2017, 10:45:09 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
well if he wasnt the tyrone manager then he is a nobody. just another ex tyrone manager.

He has won 3 x Senior AI's as a manager - his legacy is assured.
so then he can step down this year. legacy assured, dinner dances a plenty

You have to be Fearon or Syferus
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 11:10:36 PM
nah im just a gael from south tyrone. never heard of those guys.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: JoG2 on February 28, 2017, 11:11:08 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
well if he wasnt the tyrone manager then he is a nobody. just another ex tyrone manager.

Can't believe someone actually typed this!! That line will be your legacy by the looks of it

Who would you have in to replace Harte?
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on February 28, 2017, 11:12:03 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 28, 2017, 10:59:06 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:52:14 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 28, 2017, 10:45:09 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
well if he wasnt the tyrone manager then he is a nobody. just another ex tyrone manager.

He has won 3 x Senior AI's as a manager - his legacy is assured.
so then he can step down this year. legacy assured, dinner dances a plenty

You have to be Fearon or Syferus

My reckoning is it's Lenny.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 11:24:15 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on February 28, 2017, 11:11:08 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
well if he wasnt the tyrone manager then he is a nobody. just another ex tyrone manager.

Can't believe someone actually typed this!! That line will be your legacy by the looks of it

Who would you have in to replace Harte?
mattie mc gleenan, malachy o rourke, current u21 team, paddy tally. in that order of preference but would take either.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: longballin on February 28, 2017, 11:33:35 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:52:14 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 28, 2017, 10:45:09 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
well if he wasnt the tyrone manager then he is a nobody. just another ex tyrone manager.

He has won 3 x Senior AI's as a manager - his legacy is assured.
so then he can step down this year. legacy assured, dinner dances a plenty

:D
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: T Fearon on February 28, 2017, 11:35:04 PM
Who would have thought Tyrone GAA would split over economic matters.Its clearly an ideological clash between Jeremy Corbyn Harte and Theresa May Cavanagh.God knows how it will pan out after Brexit.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 11:40:44 PM
i think its more harte v jordan, fearon. not sure which side cavanagh is on to be honest.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: omagh_gael on March 01, 2017, 12:30:32 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 11:24:15 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on February 28, 2017, 11:11:08 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
well if he wasnt the tyrone manager then he is a nobody. just another ex tyrone manager.

Can't believe someone actually typed this!! That line will be your legacy by the looks of it

Who would you have in to replace Harte?
mattie mc gleenan, malachy o rourke, current u21 team, paddy tally. in that order of preference but would take either.

You talk some shots STG, what significant tactical changes would any of those management teams bring to Tyrone?
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: Redhand Santa on March 01, 2017, 08:10:19 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 01, 2017, 12:30:32 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 11:24:15 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on February 28, 2017, 11:11:08 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
well if he wasnt the tyrone manager then he is a nobody. just another ex tyrone manager.

Can't believe someone actually typed this!! That line will be your legacy by the looks of it

Who would you have in to replace Harte?
mattie mc gleenan, malachy o rourke, current u21 team, paddy tally. in that order of preference but would take either.

You talk some shots STG, what significant tactical changes would any of those management teams bring to Tyrone?

He's already said previously that McGleenan will bring a new form of attacking football and do away with the blanket defence. Looking forward to watching all the Cavan games this year, expecting huge scores from them.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: sambostar on March 01, 2017, 05:38:02 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on March 01, 2017, 08:10:19 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 01, 2017, 12:30:32 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 11:24:15 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on February 28, 2017, 11:11:08 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
well if he wasnt the tyrone manager then he is a nobody. just another ex tyrone manager.

Can't believe someone actually typed this!! That line will be your legacy by the looks of it

Who would you have in to replace Harte?
mattie mc gleenan, malachy o rourke, current u21 team, paddy tally. in that order of preference but would take either.

You talk some shots STG, what significant tactical changes would any of those management teams bring to Tyrone?

He's already said previously that McGleenan will bring a new form of attacking football and do away with the blanket defence. Looking forward to watching all the Cavan games this year, expecting huge scores from them.
Yeah like the Monaghan game, a real hum-finger, 7pts each at the end! Attacking football his arse
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: AhNowRef on March 01, 2017, 05:48:04 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 09:58:37 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on February 28, 2017, 09:45:31 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 28, 2017, 09:34:03 PM
of course it was harte. if roisin jordan isnt gone by the end of the year then he is gone! disgraceful stuff from harte but not surprising. he will use every trick in the book to hold on to his lucrative position.

How is it a "lucrative position" ?
well apparently he is getting paid but the real money comes from speaking at events, dinner dances, seminars etc. he gets his public profile from being the tyrone manager and so gets the gigs and the money that comes from it.

You ok Roisin  :'(
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: Jinxy on March 01, 2017, 06:20:26 PM
Something is rotten in the state of Tyrone.
Title: Re: Tyrone players reject austerity measures
Post by: longballin on March 01, 2017, 08:03:54 PM
Something is rotten in the state of Gaelic football  $$$$