Just kicking off the 2017 competition.
Draw due to be made this week. Jordanstown are Ryan Cup champions so will begin as favs. They have an embarrassment of riches as usual as do DCU.
Looking forward to the draw.
I wouldn't call the DCU pick right now an embarssment of riches. Around 10 of last years sigerson cup team have finished their studies and replaced with alot of last years freshers.
Steven O'Brien,Rory Connor,Ultan Harney were three notable players that didn't play in the Ryan cup final so they did well to bring UUJ to extra time.
Not many superstars on DCU team
http://www.gaa.ie/football/news/uuj-win-independent-sfl-division-ryan-cup-final/
It's mainly lads from the Freshers All Ireland winning team of last year.
Quote from: ck on December 03, 2016, 02:16:44 AM
Just kicking off the 2017 competition.
Draw due to be made this week. Jordanstown are Ryan Cup champions so will begin as favs. They have an embarrassment of riches as usual as do DCU.
Looking forward to the draw.
DCU have a heep of really good young footballers of college age. They're just a good college side, far removed from their excesses four or five years ago.
UUJ have a heep of IC senior mercs brought in because they're being given a more-than-full ride. Hope to fûck they fall flat on their arses yet again.
Here lads what course is Murphy doing in UUJ??
Quote from: screenexile on December 04, 2016, 03:09:03 AM
Here lads what course is Murphy doing in UUJ??
Masters in psychology.
Probably one of the only GAA competitions I'd have almost zero interest in
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 04, 2016, 07:45:45 AM
Quote from: screenexile on December 04, 2016, 03:09:03 AM
Here lads what course is Murphy doing in UUJ??
Masters in psychology.
UUJ policy of chasing big name players continues on eh?
Quote from: macdanger2 on December 04, 2016, 09:55:48 AM
Probably one of the only GAA competitions I'd have almost zero interest in
Apart from the players who play in it no one really gives a damn about it in fairness.
Murphy isn't in UUJ. He was going to that course but didn't pursue with it.
UUJ will not have Donegal ace Michael Murphy available to them for their upcoming Sigerson Cup campaign.
The big Glenswilly man is understood to have registered for a masters in psychology at the Jordanstown campus, but has now opted not to pursue it and is now focused on getting himself fully fit for the Tir Chonaill men's 2017 campaign, according to manager Rory Gallagher.
"We're obviously delighted that we'll have Michael based full-time in Donegal," Gallagher is quoted saying in The Irish News.
"It's obviously better than if he was spending a couple of days a week in Belfast. Michael had an interest in the course but, when he weighed it up against the commitments to his shop and to ourselves, he decided not to pursue it."
Murphy, who runs his own business in Letterkenny, helped Donegal reach this year's Ulster SFC final before picking up a knee injury in an All County League game and returning to inspire his native club to the Donegal SFC title.
Quote from: ck on December 04, 2016, 10:50:30 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on December 04, 2016, 09:55:48 AM
Probably one of the only GAA competitions I'd have almost zero interest in
Apart from the players who play in it no one really gives a damn about it in fairness.
Also GAA HQ who hold up the NFL for this yoke.
Play it before Christmas for feck sake!
Quote from: ck on December 04, 2016, 10:48:23 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 04, 2016, 07:45:45 AM
Quote from: screenexile on December 04, 2016, 03:09:03 AM
Here lads what course is Murphy doing in UUJ??
Masters in psychology.
UUJ policy of chasing big name players continues on eh?
Murphy is not playing Sigerson this year.
Unless he changed his mind since last month...
http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2016/11/17/news/michael-murphy-won-t-feature-for-jordanstown-in-sigerson-cup-787818/ (http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2016/11/17/news/michael-murphy-won-t-feature-for-jordanstown-in-sigerson-cup-787818/)
Edit: I see rodney trotter already addressed it.
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 04, 2016, 11:00:14 AM
Murphy isn't in UUJ. He was going to that course but didn't pursue with it.
UUJ will not have Donegal ace Michael Murphy available to them for their upcoming Sigerson Cup campaign.
The big Glenswilly man is understood to have registered for a masters in psychology at the Jordanstown campus, but has now opted not to pursue it and is now focused on getting himself fully fit for the Tir Chonaill men's 2017 campaign, according to manager Rory Gallagher.
"We're obviously delighted that we'll have Michael based full-time in Donegal," Gallagher is quoted saying in The Irish News.
"It's obviously better than if he was spending a couple of days a week in Belfast. Michael had an interest in the course but, when he weighed it up against the commitments to his shop and to ourselves, he decided not to pursue it."
Murphy, who runs his own business in Letterkenny, helped Donegal reach this year's Ulster SFC final before picking up a knee injury in an All County League game and returning to inspire his native club to the Donegal SFC title.
It says something terrible about an amateur sport that it was the deciding factor in a lad furthering his education. Murphy isn't going to be able kick leather over the bar all his life.
Quote from: Syferus on December 04, 2016, 03:30:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 04, 2016, 11:00:14 AM
Murphy isn't in UUJ. He was going to that course but didn't pursue with it.
UUJ will not have Donegal ace Michael Murphy available to them for their upcoming Sigerson Cup campaign.
The big Glenswilly man is understood to have registered for a masters in psychology at the Jordanstown campus, but has now opted not to pursue it and is now focused on getting himself fully fit for the Tir Chonaill men's 2017 campaign, according to manager Rory Gallagher.
"We're obviously delighted that we'll have Michael based full-time in Donegal," Gallagher is quoted saying in The Irish News.
"It's obviously better than if he was spending a couple of days a week in Belfast. Michael had an interest in the course but, when he weighed it up against the commitments to his shop and to ourselves, he decided not to pursue it."
Murphy, who runs his own business in Letterkenny, helped Donegal reach this year's Ulster SFC final before picking up a knee injury in an All County League game and returning to inspire his native club to the Donegal SFC title.
It says something terrible about an amateur sport that it was the deciding factor in a lad furthering his education. Murphy isn't going to be able kick leather over the bar all his life.
Did you miss the part about him running his sports shop? Perhaps THAT was the main motivating factor?
Plus, if ever a player needed a break from football, its him.
Quote from: J70 on December 04, 2016, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 04, 2016, 03:30:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 04, 2016, 11:00:14 AM
Murphy isn't in UUJ. He was going to that course but didn't pursue with it.
UUJ will not have Donegal ace Michael Murphy available to them for their upcoming Sigerson Cup campaign.
The big Glenswilly man is understood to have registered for a masters in psychology at the Jordanstown campus, but has now opted not to pursue it and is now focused on getting himself fully fit for the Tir Chonaill men's 2017 campaign, according to manager Rory Gallagher.
"We're obviously delighted that we'll have Michael based full-time in Donegal," Gallagher is quoted saying in The Irish News.
"It's obviously better than if he was spending a couple of days a week in Belfast. Michael had an interest in the course but, when he weighed it up against the commitments to his shop and to ourselves, he decided not to pursue it."
Murphy, who runs his own business in Letterkenny, helped Donegal reach this year's Ulster SFC final before picking up a knee injury in an All County League game and returning to inspire his native club to the Donegal SFC title.
It says something terrible about an amateur sport that it was the deciding factor in a lad furthering his education. Murphy isn't going to be able kick leather over the bar all his life.
Did you miss the part about him running his sports shop? Perhaps THAT was the main motivating factor?
Plus, if ever a player needed a break from football, its him.
Do you really honestly think IC concerns didn't come into it? The shop is the constant, the IC stuff is supposed to be a pastime.. why would a pastime come into the decision-making about furthering yourself? Because it's only amateur in terms of the pay cheque..
Quote from: Syferus on December 04, 2016, 03:55:06 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 04, 2016, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 04, 2016, 03:30:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 04, 2016, 11:00:14 AM
Murphy isn't in UUJ. He was going to that course but didn't pursue with it.
UUJ will not have Donegal ace Michael Murphy available to them for their upcoming Sigerson Cup campaign.
The big Glenswilly man is understood to have registered for a masters in psychology at the Jordanstown campus, but has now opted not to pursue it and is now focused on getting himself fully fit for the Tir Chonaill men's 2017 campaign, according to manager Rory Gallagher.
"We're obviously delighted that we'll have Michael based full-time in Donegal," Gallagher is quoted saying in The Irish News.
"It's obviously better than if he was spending a couple of days a week in Belfast. Michael had an interest in the course but, when he weighed it up against the commitments to his shop and to ourselves, he decided not to pursue it."
Murphy, who runs his own business in Letterkenny, helped Donegal reach this year's Ulster SFC final before picking up a knee injury in an All County League game and returning to inspire his native club to the Donegal SFC title.
It says something terrible about an amateur sport that it was the deciding factor in a lad furthering his education. Murphy isn't going to be able kick leather over the bar all his life.
Did you miss the part about him running his sports shop? Perhaps THAT was the main motivating factor?
Plus, if ever a player needed a break from football, its him.
Do you really honestly think IC concerns didn't come into it? The shop is the constant, the IC stuff is supposed to be a pastime.. why would a pastime come into the decision-making about furthering yourself? Because it's only amateur in terms of the pay cheque..
I don't know,
Depends on how much a Masters in Psychology is worth to him in the near future.
His business is already up and running. Commuting up and down to Jordanstown would surely be disruptive, at the very least, professionally. While his role as a very high profile intercounty player and Donegal captain is bound to be very beneficial to his business, which is, after all, a sporting goods shop. How many people venture into his shop because of who he is as an amateur player?
Its not like he was on a professional certification path in his career and opted out of studying and taking an exam.
And its not Karl Lacey or Kieran Donaghy just quitting work altogether to focus on their football.
Sigerson Cup
(First team named at home)
Preliminary Round – 25/26 January
NUI Galway v Trinity College
Garda College v Cork IT
GMIT v IT Sligo
Round Two – 25/26/31 January
A. UL v Maynooth University
B. Athlone IT v Dublin IT
C. Garda College/Cork IT v UUJ
D. GMIT/IT Sligo v UCD
E. Queen's University v DCU
F. NUIG/Trinity College v St Mary's
G. IT Carlow v IT Tralee
H. St Pat's Drumcondra v UCC
Quarter-Finals – 8 February
Semi-Finals – 17 February – Connacht GAA Centre, Bekan
Final – 18 February – Connacht GAA Centre, Bekan
Kicks off this week lads. IT Sligo away to GMIT to open proceedings
I assume GMIT are hosts for the finals this year judging by the venues for the semi final and final?
Quote from: J70 on December 04, 2016, 04:23:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 04, 2016, 03:55:06 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 04, 2016, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 04, 2016, 03:30:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 04, 2016, 11:00:14 AM
Murphy isn't in UUJ. He was going to that course but didn't pursue with it.
UUJ will not have Donegal ace Michael Murphy available to them for their upcoming Sigerson Cup campaign.
The big Glenswilly man is understood to have registered for a masters in psychology at the Jordanstown campus, but has now opted not to pursue it and is now focused on getting himself fully fit for the Tir Chonaill men’s 2017 campaign, according to manager Rory Gallagher.
“We’re obviously delighted that we’ll have Michael based full-time in Donegal,” Gallagher is quoted saying in The Irish News.
“It’s obviously better than if he was spending a couple of days a week in Belfast. Michael had an interest in the course but, when he weighed it up against the commitments to his shop and to ourselves, he decided not to pursue it.”
Murphy, who runs his own business in Letterkenny, helped Donegal reach this year’s Ulster SFC final before picking up a knee injury in an All County League game and returning to inspire his native club to the Donegal SFC title.
It says something terrible about an amateur sport that it was the deciding factor in a lad furthering his education. Murphy isn't going to be able kick leather over the bar all his life.
Did you miss the part about him running his sports shop? Perhaps THAT was the main motivating factor?
Plus, if ever a player needed a break from football, its him.
Do you really honestly think IC concerns didn't come into it? The shop is the constant, the IC stuff is supposed to be a pastime.. why would a pastime come into the decision-making about furthering yourself? Because it's only amateur in terms of the pay cheque..
I don't know,
Depends on how much a Masters in Psychology is worth to him in the near future.
His business is already up and running. Commuting up and down to Jordanstown would surely be disruptive, at the very least, professionally. While his role as a very high profile intercounty player and Donegal captain is bound to be very beneficial to his business, which is, after all, a sporting goods shop. How many people venture into his shop because of who he is as an amateur player?
Its not like he was on a professional certification path in his career and opted out of studying and taking an exam.
And its not Karl Lacey or Kieran Donaghy just quitting work altogether to focus on their football.
I think youll find a lot of these guy quitting their job to concentrate on football worked for a certain bank that has laid off a lot of people in the last few years.
sounds better to use the football excuse than just to say they were laid off.
and Murphys shop is helped greatly by his profile with Donegal and fair play to him he's not slow in exploiting the fact . hope it continues to do well when he retires and becomes Donegal manager
Agree 100% with the article below.
Should be an u-23 competition only.
Lads need to leave college and get a life.
Literally.
http://www.irishnews.com/sport/2017/01/24/news/cahair-o-kane-time-to-blow-the-whistle-on-eternal-students-903382/ (http://www.irishnews.com/sport/2017/01/24/news/cahair-o-kane-time-to-blow-the-whistle-on-eternal-students-903382/)
Players should have 4 years playing eligibility max and leave it at that.
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 25, 2017, 12:55:37 PM
Players should have 4 years playing eligibility max and leave it at that.
What is it currently? 6?
We have to reduce the number of teams that intercounty players are eligible to play for.
The present situation is absurd.
Quotehoganstand.com @hoganstandgaa 12m12 minutes ago
Sigerson Cup FTs: UL 2-16 Maynooth University 4-10 (ET to follow), Queens 0-3 DCU 3-10
:o
Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2017, 02:22:18 PM
We have to reduce the number of teams that intercounty players are eligible to play for.
The present situation is absurd.
Yes, though if this was played in December as it should be in my view it would solve that issue.
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 25, 2017, 03:40:43 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2017, 02:22:18 PM
We have to reduce the number of teams that intercounty players are eligible to play for.
The present situation is absurd.
Yes, though if this was played in December as it should be in my view it would solve that issue.
Agree. Sigerson should be played off before Christmas and it should strictly be under 22 or 23. Colleges should not be in the inter county pre season competitions either.
Murf with 1-3 for DCU. They had a handy enough win and I imagine will be hard stopped.
Between UUJ,DCU,UCD for the sigerson cup again. NUIG probably the 4th best side in the competition.
Anybody got queens lineup ?
Queen's – J O'Hare; N Keenan, A Rushe, R Wells; S Heffron, J McMahon, C Francis; A Doherty, D McKeever; C McCartan, M Clarke, C O'Hanlon; M O'Reilly, A McClements, S Fox. Subs: J Dowling for Doherty (BC, 28), C Donaghy for Francis (HT), C Harney for O'Hanlon (BC, 35), G McCabe for McClements (42), F Quinn for Fox (42), A Fegan for Wells (49).
Taken from Irish Indo - http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/sigerson-fitzgibbon-cups/watch-was-it-over-the-line-dcu-awarded-controversial-goal-during-facile-win-over-queens-35398014.html
I know DCU are top class at Sigerson level but this result really caught my eye.
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on January 26, 2017, 12:53:19 PM
Queen's – J O'Hare; N Keenan, A Rushe, R Wells; S Heffron, J McMahon, C Francis; A Doherty, D McKeever; C McCartan, M Clarke, C O'Hanlon; M O'Reilly, A McClements, S Fox. Subs: J Dowling for Doherty (BC, 28), C Donaghy for Francis (HT), C Harney for O'Hanlon (BC, 35), G McCabe for McClements (42), F Quinn for Fox (42), A Fegan for Wells (49).
Taken from Irish Indo - http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/sigerson-fitzgibbon-cups/watch-was-it-over-the-line-dcu-awarded-controversial-goal-during-facile-win-over-queens-35398014.html
I know DCU are top class at Sigerson level but this result really caught my eye.
9 Down men in action there.
Quote from: DownFanatic on January 26, 2017, 01:06:44 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on January 26, 2017, 12:53:19 PM
Queen's – J O'Hare; N Keenan, A Rushe, R Wells; S Heffron, J McMahon, C Francis; A Doherty, D McKeever; C McCartan, M Clarke, C O'Hanlon; M O'Reilly, A McClements, S Fox. Subs: J Dowling for Doherty (BC, 28), C Donaghy for Francis (HT), C Harney for O'Hanlon (BC, 35), G McCabe for McClements (42), F Quinn for Fox (42), A Fegan for Wells (49).
Taken from Irish Indo - http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/sigerson-fitzgibbon-cups/watch-was-it-over-the-line-dcu-awarded-controversial-goal-during-facile-win-over-queens-35398014.html
I know DCU are top class at Sigerson level but this result really caught my eye.
9 Down men in action there.
That offers some explanation as to why they were so poor
How is Marty Clarke getting on nowadays?
Ta lad. There was a time when I knew 3/4s of the Queens time but not anymore
Am I getting old or are they just not as high profile anymore?
Same when I was at Uni, Queens were far more superior than UUJ. Looks to have reversed now. It definitely lacks the household names that most of the top Uni's have these days.
Virtually none of that Queens team is County standard... which in truth is how it should be
Quote from: general_lee on January 26, 2017, 02:41:13 PM
Virtually none of that Queens team is County standard... which in truth is how it should be
Well not entirely, but I get your point. Certainly, if there was a 4 year eligibility cap, as suggested above, then the % of county players would be much lower across the board.
Quote from: DownFanatic on January 26, 2017, 01:06:44 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on January 26, 2017, 12:53:19 PM
Queen's – J O'Hare; N Keenan, A Rushe, R Wells; S Heffron, J McMahon, C Francis; A Doherty, D McKeever; C McCartan, M Clarke, C O'Hanlon; M O'Reilly, A McClements, S Fox. Subs: J Dowling for Doherty (BC, 28), C Donaghy for Francis (HT), C Harney for O'Hanlon (BC, 35), G McCabe for McClements (42), F Quinn for Fox (42), A Fegan for Wells (49).
Taken from Irish Indo - http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/sigerson-fitzgibbon-cups/watch-was-it-over-the-line-dcu-awarded-controversial-goal-during-facile-win-over-queens-35398014.html
I know DCU are top class at Sigerson level but this result really caught my eye.
9 Down men in action there.
I'm surprised they even got 0-3
IT Sligo took care of GMIT by 3-13 to 2-7. Tough one next up away to UCD.
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 26, 2017, 03:51:32 PM
IT Sligo took care of GMIT by 3-13 to 2-7. Tough one next up away to UCD.
IT Sligo are home to UCD next week. Still very tough to see them winning it.
Tweet of the night?
Cork IT GAA
@corkitgaa
CIT: 0:01 Garda College: 0:06 Dog on the pitch - gardaí called to sort out the problem!
Quote from: general_lee on January 26, 2017, 02:41:13 PM
Virtually none of that Queens team is County standard... which in truth is how it should be
There was a couple of County players not released to play in the Sigerson for Queens, apparently https://t.co/PN346YxnBJ
Quote from: MayoBuck on January 26, 2017, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 26, 2017, 03:51:32 PM
IT Sligo took care of GMIT by 3-13 to 2-7. Tough one next up away to UCD.
IT Sligo are home to UCD next week. Still very tough to see them winning it.
Yes IT Sligo are at home. On paper Sligo are as good as anyone
county players shouldn't be playing Sigerson
or Sigerson players shouldn't be near a county squad
one of the above
Quote from: ck on January 26, 2017, 11:20:50 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on January 26, 2017, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 26, 2017, 03:51:32 PM
IT Sligo took care of GMIT by 3-13 to 2-7. Tough one next up away to UCD.
IT Sligo are home to UCD next week. Still very tough to see them winning it.
Yes IT Sligo are at home. On paper Sligo are as good as anyone
Unless you think the others are average at best on paper I don't know how you can draw that conclusion on this IT Sligo team?
D Cafferkey (Sligo); R Gallagher (Donegal), D McConnon (Sligo), P Neilan (Roscommon); R Gorman (Westmeath), E McGrath (Donegal), C McGettigan (Donegal); R Connolly (Sligo), K McBrearty (Donegal); A McClean (Donegal), R Smyth (Longford), J Brennan (Donegal); B Walsh (Mayo), J Shaughnessy (Mayo), E B Gallagher (Donegal).
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 26, 2017, 11:38:30 PM
county players shouldn't be playing Sigerson
or Sigerson players shouldn't be near a county squad
one of the above
100% agree with that. The argument against it is that it would be unfair not to allow county players get their scholarships but in my view scholarships are the poison that has allowed certain colleges run a mock pulling in County players who wouldn't be there otherwise.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 27, 2017, 12:11:24 PM
Quote from: ck on January 26, 2017, 11:20:50 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on January 26, 2017, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 26, 2017, 03:51:32 PM
IT Sligo took care of GMIT by 3-13 to 2-7. Tough one next up away to UCD.
IT Sligo are home to UCD next week. Still very tough to see them winning it.
Yes IT Sligo are at home. On paper Sligo are as good as anyone
Unless you think the others are average at best on paper I don't know how you can draw that conclusion on this IT Sligo team?
D Cafferkey (Sligo); R Gallagher (Donegal), D McConnon (Sligo), P Neilan (Roscommon); R Gorman (Westmeath), E McGrath (Donegal), C McGettigan (Donegal); R Connolly (Sligo), K McBrearty (Donegal); A McClean (Donegal), R Smyth (Longford), J Brennan (Donegal); B Walsh (Mayo), J Shaughnessy (Mayo), E B Gallagher (Donegal).
Yes maybe a slight exaggeration but it's best team theyve had in a few years. A lot of these lads are future county players. Way it should be.
Quote from: ck on January 27, 2017, 06:05:47 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 27, 2017, 12:11:24 PM
Quote from: ck on January 26, 2017, 11:20:50 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on January 26, 2017, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 26, 2017, 03:51:32 PM
IT Sligo took care of GMIT by 3-13 to 2-7. Tough one next up away to UCD.
IT Sligo are home to UCD next week. Still very tough to see them winning it.
Yes IT Sligo are at home. On paper Sligo are as good as anyone
Unless you think the others are average at best on paper I don't know how you can draw that conclusion on this IT Sligo team?
D Cafferkey (Sligo); R Gallagher (Donegal), D McConnon (Sligo), P Neilan (Roscommon); R Gorman (Westmeath), E McGrath (Donegal), C McGettigan (Donegal); R Connolly (Sligo), K McBrearty (Donegal); A McClean (Donegal), R Smyth (Longford), J Brennan (Donegal); B Walsh (Mayo), J Shaughnessy (Mayo), E B Gallagher (Donegal).
Yes maybe a slight exaggeration but it's best team theyve had in a few years. A lot of these lads are future county players. Way it should be.
The year they went up to Queens and won they had a far better team. They did that without both their star players, the McHughs, too.
Very comfortable UCD win is on the cards.
Quote from: Syferus on January 27, 2017, 08:38:29 PM
Quote from: ck on January 27, 2017, 06:05:47 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 27, 2017, 12:11:24 PM
Quote from: ck on January 26, 2017, 11:20:50 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on January 26, 2017, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 26, 2017, 03:51:32 PM
IT Sligo took care of GMIT by 3-13 to 2-7. Tough one next up away to UCD.
IT Sligo are home to UCD next week. Still very tough to see them winning it.
Yes IT Sligo are at home. On paper Sligo are as good as anyone
Unless you think the others are average at best on paper I don't know how you can draw that conclusion on this IT Sligo team?
D Cafferkey (Sligo); R Gallagher (Donegal), D McConnon (Sligo), P Neilan (Roscommon); R Gorman (Westmeath), E McGrath (Donegal), C McGettigan (Donegal); R Connolly (Sligo), K McBrearty (Donegal); A McClean (Donegal), R Smyth (Longford), J Brennan (Donegal); B Walsh (Mayo), J Shaughnessy (Mayo), E B Gallagher (Donegal).
Yes maybe a slight exaggeration but it's best team theyve had in a few years. A lot of these lads are future county players. Way it should be.
The year they went up to Queens and won they had a far better team. They did that without both their star players, the McHughs, too.
Very comfortable UCD win is on the cards.
UCD probably one of the strongest sides in sigerson so probably right. The competition will come down to the big scholarship colleges DCU, UCD and UUJ
Quote from: ck on January 30, 2017, 10:55:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 27, 2017, 08:38:29 PM
Quote from: ck on January 27, 2017, 06:05:47 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 27, 2017, 12:11:24 PM
Quote from: ck on January 26, 2017, 11:20:50 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on January 26, 2017, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 26, 2017, 03:51:32 PM
IT Sligo took care of GMIT by 3-13 to 2-7. Tough one next up away to UCD.
IT Sligo are home to UCD next week. Still very tough to see them winning it.
Yes IT Sligo are at home. On paper Sligo are as good as anyone
Unless you think the others are average at best on paper I don't know how you can draw that conclusion on this IT Sligo team?
D Cafferkey (Sligo); R Gallagher (Donegal), D McConnon (Sligo), P Neilan (Roscommon); R Gorman (Westmeath), E McGrath (Donegal), C McGettigan (Donegal); R Connolly (Sligo), K McBrearty (Donegal); A McClean (Donegal), R Smyth (Longford), J Brennan (Donegal); B Walsh (Mayo), J Shaughnessy (Mayo), E B Gallagher (Donegal).
Yes maybe a slight exaggeration but it's best team theyve had in a few years. A lot of these lads are future county players. Way it should be.
The year they went up to Queens and won they had a far better team. They did that without both their star players, the McHughs, too.
Very comfortable UCD win is on the cards.
UCD probably one of the strongest sides in sigerson so probably right. The competition will come down to the big scholarship colleges DCU, UCD and UUJ
It's a pity. It's not that long ago ITS were dominating the Sigerson by just assembling a quaility team of real students.
UCD 1/14 IT Sligo 7/1 Draw 16/1
5-16 2-6. 2-9 to 2-5 at halftime. Not a puff of wind in it.
Garda College 0-12 UUJ 0-12 at Full Time going into ET, UUJ were as short as 1/14 to win the match
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 31, 2017, 03:32:15 PM
Garda College 0-12 UUJ 0-12 at Full Time going into ET, UUJ were as short as 1/14 to win the match
UUJ 5 points up now. Garda team has lots of county players, surprised odds were so one sided.
Sigerson Cup Full Time: UCD 5-16 v @ITSligoGAAClub 2-06
DIT beat AIT tonight handy enough
Quote from: ck on January 31, 2017, 11:01:46 PM
DIT beat AIT tonight handy enough
Closer game than expected only a five point winning margin.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 01, 2017, 01:35:23 PM
Quote from: ck on January 31, 2017, 11:01:46 PM
DIT beat AIT tonight handy enough
Closer game than expected only a five point winning margin.
DIT had Ian Fahy their midfielder sent off in first quarter for black card after already seeing yellow.
Wednesday, 2pm
In Jordanstown
Ulster University v University College Dublin
Wednesday, 2pm
In Dublin City University Sportsgrounds
DCU Dóchas Éireann v St Mary's University College
Wednesday 6pm
In Carlow I.T.
Carlow IT v University College Cork
Thursday, 2pm
In UL Grounds
University of Limerick v Dublin Institute of Technology
Any predictions on the four quarter finals this week?
UU , DCU, UCC and UL I think with UU v UCD to be the pick of the games.
UUJ getting an absolute tanking from UCD.
1-18 to 0-9 to UCD. some second half from UCD by the sounds of things.
Quote from: rory on February 08, 2017, 03:29:52 PM
1-18 to 0-9 to UCD. some second half from UCD by the sounds of things.
UUJ got 1 point in the 2nd half :o
Marys and DCU gone to ET after a hectic finish.
Quote from: FermGael on February 08, 2017, 03:18:03 PM
UUJ getting an absolute tanking from UCD.
UCD looking good for back to back sigerson cups.
St Mary's win by 1.
Great result for St Marys
Does the semi final and final be live on TG4 or just the final?
Has the draw for the last four been made or do they want to get them all through first.
Final only used to be semi and final but now the last 2 years.
UCC beat Carlow IT by 0-10 to 1-6 AET tonight.
Sigerson Cup Semi Finals UCC vs St. Marys and UCD vs UL/ DIT
Amazing the number of lads who can play games Weekend - Wednesday - Weekend but then can't play for their clubs for weeks. He who pays the piper I guess.
highlights of the uuj ucd game on independent.ie
Well done to the Ranch.
The starstudded UUJ fail miserably yet again. When will they ever learn to stop courting big name players.
Can anybody name the team and subs that lined
Out for st Marys
St Mary's - M Reid; K Mallon, A McKay, R Mooney; C Byrne (0-1), C Meyler (0-1), C Corrigan; O O'Neill (1-3, 0-3f), B Og McGilligan (1-0); C MacIomhair, C McCann (0-2), K McKernan (0-1); S McConville (0-1), C McShane (0-3), M Fitzpatrick (0-1). Subs: P Og McCrickard for C MacIomhair, J Hannigan for C Byrne, C Convery for M Fitzpatrick, C Quinn (0-1) for S McConville, A Nugent for C McCann.
Did any of ye see the St Marys match? How did McShane do at full forward?
Haven't been to a Sigerson game for years. Do they play much blanket defence as well or is it a bit more attack minded?
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 09, 2017, 12:13:33 PM
Did any of ye see the St Marys match? How did McShane do at full forward?
Haven't been to a Sigerson game for years. Do they play much blanket defence as well or is it a bit more attack minded?
If you read the Irish News report on it this morning, seems like McShane was the only player on the pitch! Plenty of scores anyway.
Great stuff. It would be great if he could fit in at 14 for Tyrone in the years to come.
What do you think is his best position for Tyrone Rois?
UL 0-6 DIT 0-6 half time.
was ronan mc namee from tyrone not touring america and australia for 3 months before christmas. How yet can he line out for uuj. Farcical. The only good thing is uuj have'nt got close to winning sigerson the last number of years despite their recruitment drive.
UL 0-10 DIT 0-7 full time.
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 09, 2017, 12:13:33 PM
Did any of ye see the St Marys match? How did McShane do at full forward?
Haven't been to a Sigerson game for years. Do they play much blanket defence as well or is it a bit more attack minded?
Read a report on the Journal on the Carlow - UCC game and it made note of how defensive Carlow were.
QuoteUCC needed extra-time before they eventually saw off the challenge of a very defensive Carlow IT outfit that they found difficult to break down throughout.
It may well serve as good preparation for UCC's management team of Billy Morgan and Tomas Ó Sé, because St Mary's, who they'll face in the last four, also tend to sit back and put plenty of bodies behind the ball.
It would be nice if the of the same three teams don't win this shite again this year, but that might be too much to ask. Harney injured playing this stuff two years in a row now.
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2017, 12:42:02 PM
It would be nice if the of the same three teams don't win this shite again this year, but that might be too much to ask. Harney injured playing this stuff two years in a row now.
Your post makes no sense. How can 3 teams win something? This years sigerson has been the best in years with St Marys and UL making it to weekend
Quote from: RedHandTom on February 11, 2017, 02:35:23 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2017, 12:42:02 PM
It would be nice if the of the same three teams don't win this shite again this year, but that might be too much to ask. Harney injured playing this stuff two years in a row now.
Your post makes no sense. How can 3 teams win something? This years sigerson has been the best in years with St Marys and UL making it to weekend
How many titles have DIT, UCC and DCU won between themselves in recent years? Throw in UCD who have got their scholarship machine in order now. The days when an IT Sligo can win this competition with a proper college side are long over.
Proper colleges? The ITs had more tourists than Ryanair for years!
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2017, 02:42:25 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on February 11, 2017, 02:35:23 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2017, 12:42:02 PM
It would be nice if the of the same three teams don't win this shite again this year, but that might be too much to ask. Harney injured playing this stuff two years in a row now.
Your post makes no sense. How can 3 teams win something? This years sigerson has been the best in years with St Marys and UL making it to weekend
How many titles have DIT, UCC and DCU won between themselves in recent years? Throw in UCD who have got their scholarship machine in order now. The days when an IT Sligo can win this competition with a proper college side are long over.
Absolute rubbish. The UCC winning teams were the very definition of proper college sides.
Quote from: shark on February 11, 2017, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2017, 02:42:25 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on February 11, 2017, 02:35:23 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2017, 12:42:02 PM
It would be nice if the of the same three teams don't win this shite again this year, but that might be too much to ask. Harney injured playing this stuff two years in a row now.
Your post makes no sense. How can 3 teams win something? This years sigerson has been the best in years with St Marys and UL making it to weekend
How many titles have DIT, UCC and DCU won between themselves in recent years? Throw in UCD who have got their scholarship machine in order now. The days when an IT Sligo can win this competition with a proper college side are long over.
Absolute rubbish. The UCC winning teams were the very definition of proper college sides.
Correct and Billy Morgan let everyone know that when they won their last sigerson cup
Quote from: shark on February 11, 2017, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2017, 02:42:25 PM
Quote from: RedHandTom on February 11, 2017, 02:35:23 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2017, 12:42:02 PM
It would be nice if the of the same three teams don't win this shite again this year, but that might be too much to ask. Harney injured playing this stuff two years in a row now.
Your post makes no sense. How can 3 teams win something? This years sigerson has been the best in years with St Marys and UL making it to weekend
How many titles have DIT, UCC and DCU won between themselves in recent years? Throw in UCD who have got their scholarship machine in order now. The days when an IT Sligo can win this competition with a proper college side are long over.
Absolute rubbish. The UCC winning teams were the very definition of proper college sides.
That's true. UCC never gave the impression they were shopping for Sigersons in fairness.
UCC, UL, and St Marys would all be "proper" colleges in that I don't believe they influence and recruit county men through scholarships. What the likes of Jordanstown have done by poaching players from other colleges has undermined Sigerson. Its not the competition it once was.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/sigerson-cup-rocked-by-eligibility-row-days-before-scheduled-semi-finals-777222.html
Surprise surprise
QuoteSigerson Cup rocked by eligibility row days before scheduled semi-finals
Wednesday, February 15, 2017 - 09:58 am
By Jackie Cahill
The Sigerson Cup has been rocked by an eligibility row on the eve of finals weekend – with Garda College appealing against their defeat to Ulster University in round 2 of the competition.
It has emerged that while Down's Niall Madine was given the green light at the eleventh hour to line out against Garda College, he was later deemed ineligible, and should not have played.
To rub salt into Garda wounds, Madine was one of the leading players for the Jordanstown-based outfit on the day, kicking four points as they went through after extra-time.
Monaghan's Kieran Hughes, while listed in the Ulster University squad, was withdrawn from the fixture after learning that he was ineligible but the presence of Madine in the UU line-up has led to Garda seeking reinstatement in the competition.
Red tape means they are unlikely to succeed, however, even though they boast a strong case.
Garda learned on February 10 that Madine was ineligible under a rule relating to the duration of no more than two recognised courses of study.
But the Garda game was played on January 31 and under Higher Education GAA rules, that falls outside the three-day window open for any appeal.
Garda have indicated that they only received notification of Madine's situation on February 10 – and are arguing that should be the date they were allowed to appeal from.
Adding to Garda's sense of grievance is the fact that had they submitted paperwork within that official three-day window, the likelihood is that the UU result would have been deemed null and void, with Garda progressing to a quarter-final against holders UCD.
In correspondence with Higher Education GAA officials, Garda believe that "vital information" was kept from them, which had a "huge bearing on the result."
Garda have requested a formal investigation into the matter and a committee meeting is scheduled for Friday evening – after both semi-finals at the Connacht GAA Centre have been completed.
Privately, Garda are not confident of winning their case but requested, as an "interim remedy", that the Sigerson competition be suspended pending the outcome of the appeal.
Higher Education GAA chiefs are insistent that the semi-finals will go ahead as scheduled – but Garda's appeal against the Ulster University result casts another shadow over a competition that has been beset by eligibility issues in recent years.
It is understood that when panels were declared, a number of Ulster University players were queried, with decisions on as many as six deferred until January 30, the night before the Garda fixture.
Four players were deemed eligible but Madine and Hughes were not.
Ulster University still managed to get clearance for Madine to line out but it later transpired that he was not eligible to play.
UU lost to UCD in the quarter-finals, and the champions will play University of Limerick on Friday at 4pm, following the St Mary's/UCC fixture at 2pm.
Time to scrap this farce of bogus students and daffodil growing courses etc.
Niall Madine has been a full time student in Newry tech for last two years but plays Sigerson for Jordanstown. Work that one out
Time to disband this competition.
Good to see proper colleges like UCD & UCC dominating again.
Is it unfair to say that most of the trouble and eligibility issues of recent years have emanated from Jordanstown and DCU? I know there was an issue with Stanmilis/Queens last year but only after Stranmillis had set up their own team. I blame the Higher Education board for not sorting that out. Leaving eligibility hearings until the day before a game this year again seems like they are a bunch of cowboys.
Thankfully, as Jinxy alluded to - on-field, UCC, UCD, UL and Mary's are in the semis. I don't know much about Mary's but being a teacher-training college I'm assuming they can't be involved in any dodgy dealings?
UCC, UCD and UL certainly are above board and their squads are almost exclusively 18-24 year old undergraduates with the odd Masters student thrown in - the way it should be.
Can never understand totally the negativity towards Sigerson in some quarters. One of the best competitions in the Gaelic Football calendar that regularly throws up several fantastic games.
Quote from: Minder on February 16, 2017, 11:35:07 PM
Just read a report on LIT winning in Fitzgibbon today and Tipps Eoin Kelly was their star man ! Yes that Eoin Kelly that retired from Tipp and is 35 years of age...........
Eh, no. Eoin Kelly is long gone from college and has his own sports equipment business I think, so no idea how you've got the idea he's in LIT?
Their team from that game is here: http://www.the42.ie/davy-fitzgerald-limerick-it-2-3241549-Feb2017/ (http://www.the42.ie/davy-fitzgerald-limerick-it-2-3241549-Feb2017/)
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on February 16, 2017, 11:29:19 PM
Can never understand totally the negativity towards Sigerson in some quarters. One of the best competitions in the Gaelic Football calendar that regularly throws up several fantastic games.
It could do with being on at a different time of the year, November would possibly be more suitable with inter-county finished and 95% of club players being finished for the year. The colleges would be unhappy at the lack of preparation time so won't bother changing and they are a law unto themselves anyway.
Colleges entering the pre-season tournaments coupled with the likes of the Hastings/McNulty cups being on make January a ridiculously overcrowded month fixture wise. Then having players play 2 games in 2 days on heavy pitches in February if they make the Sigerson cup final isn't good for their bodies.
Jordanstown are in hearings every year as they try to pull in the latest big name county star. They have more county players than they know what to do with yet win sfa every year.
Good to see genuine colleges triumphing again this year. Sigerson is a brilliant competition and should be maintained. HE GAA need to grow a set and govern the competition properly and get rid of repeat offenders like uuj
Polytechnics And technical colleges should have their own comp.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on February 17, 2017, 12:00:43 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 16, 2017, 11:35:07 PM
Just read a report on LIT winning in Fitzgibbon today and Tipps Eoin Kelly was their star man ! Yes that Eoin Kelly that retired from Tipp and is 35 years of age...........
Eh, no. Eoin Kelly is long gone from college and has his own sports equipment business I think, so no idea how you've got the idea he's in LIT?
Their team from that game is here: http://www.the42.ie/davy-fitzgerald-limerick-it-2-3241549-Feb2017/ (http://www.the42.ie/davy-fitzgerald-limerick-it-2-3241549-Feb2017/)
Yeah for some reason Henry Martin, author of Unlimited Heartbreak, was tweeting random links to Fitzgibbon games last night, from years ago
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on February 16, 2017, 11:29:19 PM
Is it unfair to say that most of the trouble and eligibility issues of recent years have emanated from Jordanstown and DCU? I know there was an issue with Stanmilis/Queens last year but only after Stranmillis had set up their own team. I blame the Higher Education board for not sorting that out. Leaving eligibility hearings until the day before a game this year again seems like they are a bunch of cowboys.
Thankfully, as Jinxy alluded to - on-field, UCC, UCD, UL and Mary's are in the semis. I don't know much about Mary's but being a teacher-training college I'm assuming they can't be involved in any dodgy dealings?
UCC, UCD and UL certainly are above board and their squads are almost exclusively 18-24 year old undergraduates with the odd Masters student thrown in - the way it should be.
Can never understand totally the negativity towards Sigerson in some quarters. One of the best competitions in the Gaelic Football calendar that regularly throws up several fantastic games.
I totally agree with you Ciarrai - I have played club, countyand university and the cleanest and I think the most enjoyable was probably sigerson, very little dirt or nasty stuff. Agree that rules need to be made and adhered to. Team lists should be provided early with no additions allowed this would give other teams time to review other teams.
http://www.the42.ie/sigerson-cup-live-3240909-Feb2017/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter# (http://www.the42.ie/sigerson-cup-live-3240909-Feb2017/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#)
UCC 2.0 St Marys 1.3
Mary's ahead by a point half time a good recovery after conceding 2 goals in the first couple of minutes.
Sounds like some game
HE GAA @HigherEdGAA 6m6 minutes ago
Sigerson Cup Semi final full time
@ucc_gaa 2.06
@St_MarysSport 2.07
Quote from: WT4E on February 17, 2017, 03:23:43 PM
Sounds like some game
The Cork students seemed to lose their heads towards the end of the game with getting two men sent off. St Marys have been the story of this years sigerson cup a fine achievement for them to reach the final.
The link on the previous page shows UCC getting 2 goals in TEN seconds. Why was the keeper allowed kick the ball out from where he did for the 2nd goal?
I read Kieran McGeary scored a long range free for St Marys. Is he right footed? ;)
Video of goals were funny as f**k
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 17, 2017, 04:29:52 PM
I read Kieran McGeary scored a long range free for St Marys. Is he right footed? ;)
Left footed natural i believe but probably comfortable on both
UCD lucky enough to progress to final. Soft penalty they were awarded.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 17, 2017, 03:42:45 PM
Quote from: WT4E on February 17, 2017, 03:23:43 PM
Sounds like some game
The Cork students seemed to lose their heads towards the end of the game with getting two men sent off. St Marys have been the story of this years sigerson cup a fine achievement for them to reach the final.
Doing it the hard way anyway. NUIG, DCU and UCC is some run to the final.
Paddy Tally should be mighty proud of his young team.Seems a pity he is more in demand outside Tyrone.
Is the Final being streamed by anyone? Not often I get to watch and support anybody with a chance of winning. Come on College.
Quote from: omochain on February 17, 2017, 08:54:15 PM
Is the Final being streamed by anyone? Not often I get to watch and support anybody with a chance of winning. Come on College.
Game is live on TG4.
Thanks a million.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJlXlz1xdI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJlXlz1xdI)
Have to admire any team that can come back from a double body blow like that.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 18, 2017, 03:24:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJlXlz1xdI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJlXlz1xdI)
Have to admire any team that can come back from a double body blow like that.
Horror show stuff.
As you say fair play to them for not letting the heads drop.
Trench cup final just finished was a good high scoring game. Waterford IT 1-14 Dundalk IT 3-10 hopefully the same for the sigerson cup final at 3.
St Mary's conceding two again inside the first minute.
They've done very well to have recovered from such a bad start and should be further ahead.
Quote from: Mike Tyson on February 18, 2017, 03:16:18 PM
St Mary's conceding two again inside the first minute.
Seven points scored without reply some turnaround from the poor start.
Fine comeback with the wind. Oisin O'Neill can hit a ball.
This is what fecking makes people mad.
Kevin McKernan clearly blocked that run. Clear black card. Referee gives yellow. Joke
Looks to be a strong enough wind. Hopefully it dies down for the second half.
UCD have the advantage of the strong wind now. Marys will probably need a goal or two to win.
Quote from: theticklemister on February 18, 2017, 03:31:14 PM
This is what fecking makes people mad.
Kevin McKernan clearly blocked that run. Clear black card. Referee gives yellow. Joke
Is McCaffrey's not similar, Bryne laid the ball off and he took him out of the play.
At least the ref was consistent in both cases.
Conall McCann having a stormer, Oisin O'Neill looks a class act.
Meyler doing very well. McShane has been disappointing and McGeary missed a simple free in front of the posts with the wind behind him.
Quote from: theticklemister on February 18, 2017, 03:31:14 PM
This is what fecking makes people mad.
Kevin McKernan clearly blocked that run. Clear black card. Referee gives yellow. Joke
As far as I read the rule the referee might be correct. To be black the referee would have to be sure that he deliberately moved into the path of the attacker. If he holds his position and the free was given for high hands then yellow is correct. Even in slow motion I could not be sure that he moved into the players path. Shows how hard rule is for referees.
Some comeback
Feel Mary's need to stay ahead and maybe goals. Wind is strong
McKernans was as clear as black card as you'll see....the rule is a joke. If he makes a winning or any vital play UCD would rightfully be agrieved
Joke rule
Tyrone's future is safe
Where's C Byrne from? Eglish?
He blocked a 'runner'. Straight black card
All UCD here. Mary's struggling
Mary's kickouts Jesus christ!!
Quote from: theticklemister on February 18, 2017, 04:01:18 PM
He blocked a 'runner'. Straight black card
But that is not the rule. Although I will agree rule is a joke
All UCD now.
They'd want to relax a bit and stop kicking daft wides though.
Conor Meyer is different class
Glides
UCD 6 scores from 23 attempts and St Marys 11 scores from 22 attempts.
Lane is a poor ref
Mary's seem to have settled down again after UCD kicked about 4 or 5 awful wides on the trot there.
Eglish/Omagh/Pomeroy half back line.
Disgraceful decision there.
Definite free-in.
Well done St Mary against the odds all the way through this competition taking out all the big hitters a fantastic achievement
Ref robbed ucd of a draw
Well done to Marys, they did it the hard way.
Always like to see the little guy come out on top.
That said, the ref was a disaster.
Well done St Marys, entertaining game, hard earned trophy.
Unbelievable by St Mary's. Conor Meyler is unbelievably good. I'd have him over McCaffrey every day of the week
I thought once they beat the Saffrons in the McKenna Cup that they'd be the team to beat
Ref a disaster. Meyler was class. Fair play St Mary's
They did it the hard way in every game. The pick they have is miniscule compared to all other partcipants
200 fellas in the college ffs!
Lads, why are Marys known as 'The Ranch' as a matter of interest?
Small pick yes but their team is pretty much a county team
Quote from: Jinxy on February 18, 2017, 04:32:43 PM
Lads, why are Marys known as 'The Ranch' as a matter of interest?
Not 100% but St Mary's would have a fair few country folk who, around Belfast, have been referred to as ranchers. So I'm assuming that's it genisis!
Fantastic game and great advertisement for football. Haven't enjoyed a game as much in a long time. As others have said, Conor Meyler is some player. Hoping for big things from him this year with the county.
Marys got a little bit of luck towards the end but it was a hard earned and well deserved win.
The Ranch was the nickname of St Joseph's training college (men's teacher training) which amalgamated with St Mary's (which was originally all women) sometime in the 80s. I believe it had something to do with the appearance of the St. Josephs building.
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 18, 2017, 04:39:20 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 18, 2017, 04:32:43 PM
Lads, why are Marys known as 'The Ranch' as a matter of interest?
Not 100% but St Mary's would have a fair few country folk who, around Belfast, have been referred to as ranchers. So I'm assuming that's it genisis!
Fantastic game and great advertisement for football. Haven't enjoyed a game as much in a long time. As others have said, Conor Meyler is some player. Hoping for big things from him this year with the county.
Totally agree I haven't enjoyed a game as much since the AI final
That is the problem with our games. There are far too many games that are close to or meaningless. Like no one really cares about the mckenna/obyrne cups or the league. It's all about finding players for potentially one off championship games later in the year
Very rarely do we get 2 closely matched teams really going for it in a game that actually matters.
Quote from: Onthe40 on February 18, 2017, 04:38:13 PM
Small pick yes but their team is pretty much a county team
An amazing achievement for St Mary's and Paddy Tally.
Achievement is mostly down to a clever recruitment policy by Paddy Tally, fair play to him. He had made a point of seeking out and encouraging county standard players to start in St Mary's or transfer across from the two universities. Beating the Poly at its own game in recruitment. Last time such a county player heavy squad available to the Ranch was back in the late 70s and early 80s.
Also helped by the introduction of the Liberal Arts degree programme (non-teaching qualification) which has increased the intake to the college at a time when teacher training places are being withdrawn and the courses are heavily female dominated. Very few male teachers coming through. Grades required for teaching courses are now mostly 3 As which further restricts the entry. However, St Mary's operate outside UCAS system and have complete control of their intake. Be interesting to know how many of the squad are in the Liberal Arts courses rather than teaching.
0-13 to 2-06 is never a classic, lads.
Well done to St. Mary's but they took a page out of the UUJ/Dublin schools' playbook to win this one. It does make UUJ look even more more foolish when a smaller college in the same province can spend less and get what they are so desperate for.
Sigerson needs to be moved to before Christmas and this semi and final on the same weekend needs to end ASAP.
Some run in fairness
Beat NUIG by 2 points
Beat DCU by 1 point AET
Beat UCC by 1 point
Beat UCD by 1 point
Quote from: Syferus on February 18, 2017, 05:38:33 PM
0-13 to 2-06 is never a classic, lads.
Well done to St. Mary's but they took a page out of the UUJ/Dublin schools' playbook to win this one. It does make UUJ look even more more foolish when a smaller college in the same province can spend less and get what they are so desperate for.
Sigerson needs to be moved to before Christmas and this semi and final on the same weekend needs to end ASAP.
In the past did they have 3 rounds all on one weekend?
Quote from: dec on February 18, 2017, 05:56:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 18, 2017, 05:38:33 PM
0-13 to 2-06 is never a classic, lads.
Well done to St. Mary's but they took a page out of the UUJ/Dublin schools' playbook to win this one. It does make UUJ look even more more foolish when a smaller college in the same province can spend less and get what they are so desperate for.
Sigerson needs to be moved to before Christmas and this semi and final on the same weekend needs to end ASAP.
In the past did they have 3 rounds all on one weekend?
Correct, in the old days it ran from Friday to Sunday but with fewer teams as the older universities were the only ones included, so it ran with just 8 teams and no preliminary rounds. Not sure when the changes were introduced.
Anybody who thinks that St Mary's team is intercounty player heavy really does need to go and look at the team line out again.
St Mary's – M Reid; R Mooney, A McKay, K Mallon; C Byrne, C Mac Iomhar, C Meyler; C McCann, O O'Neill; C Corrigan, K McGeary, S McConville; K McKernan, M Fitzpatrick, C McShane.
Subs: C Quinn for McConville (45), Hannigan for Mallon (63).
I would class McKiernan, O Neill, Fitzpatrick, Meyler and McShane as regulars for their county. McCann is on the Tyrone panel as is Corrigan on the Fermanagh panel.
Any of the rest regulars for their county ?
Quote from: FermGael on February 18, 2017, 06:21:38 PM
Anybody who thinks that St Mary's team is intercounty player heavy really does need to go and look at the team line out again.
St Mary's – M Reid; R Mooney, A McKay, K Mallon; C Byrne, C Mac Iomhar, C Meyler; C McCann, O O'Neill; C Corrigan, K McGeary, S McConville; K McKernan, M Fitzpatrick, C McShane.
Subs: C Quinn for McConville (45), Hannigan for Mallon (63).
I would class McKiernan, O Neill, Fitzpatrick, Meyler and McShane as regulars for their county. McCann is on the Tyrone panel as is Corrigan on the Fermanagh panel.
Any of the rest regulars for their county ?
Aaron Mckay made his county debut for Armagh a few weeks ago.
Great to see the ranch winning
Some half back line , tyronnies have some production line
Quote from: Throw ball on February 18, 2017, 06:35:31 PM
Quote from: FermGael on February 18, 2017, 06:21:38 PM
Anybody who thinks that St Mary's team is intercounty player heavy really does need to go and look at the team line out again.
St Mary's – M Reid; R Mooney, A McKay, K Mallon; C Byrne, C Mac Iomhar, C Meyler; C McCann, O O'Neill; C Corrigan, K McGeary, S McConville; K McKernan, M Fitzpatrick, C McShane.
Subs: C Quinn for McConville (45), Hannigan for Mallon (63).
I would class McKiernan, O Neill, Fitzpatrick, Meyler and McShane as regulars for their county. McCann is on the Tyrone panel as is Corrigan on the Fermanagh panel.
Any of the rest regulars for their county ?
Aaron Mckay made his county debut for Armagh a few weeks ago.
McGeary in Tyrone panel last year, scored a point in Ulster Final. Reckon he'll be pushing for a starting place this year. Tyrone boys were outstanding today.
Quote from: naka on February 18, 2017, 07:02:14 PM
Great to see the ranch winning
Some half back line , tyronnies have some production line
Assuming they lined out as listed one of those half backs is an Armagh man.😉
Quote from: Throw ball on February 18, 2017, 07:06:51 PM
Quote from: naka on February 18, 2017, 07:02:14 PM
Great to see the ranch winning
Some half back line , tyronnies have some production line
Assuming they lined out as listed one of those half backs is an Armagh man.😉
Don't think they did but I stand corrected 🤔
As an aside meyler is some talent hope he developed into the star he can be
Quote from: FermGael on February 18, 2017, 06:21:38 PM
Anybody who thinks that St Mary's team is intercounty player heavy really does need to go and look at the team line out again.
St Mary's – M Reid; R Mooney, A McKay, K Mallon; C Byrne, C Mac Iomhar, C Meyler; C McCann, O O'Neill; C Corrigan, K McGeary, S McConville; K McKernan, M Fitzpatrick, C McShane.
Subs: C Quinn for McConville (45), Hannigan for Mallon (63).
I would class McKiernan, O Neill, Fitzpatrick, Meyler and McShane as regulars for their county. McCann is on the Tyrone panel as is Corrigan on the Fermanagh panel.
Any of the rest regulars for their county ?
So, half are inter county panellists. Not bad.
Thoroughly enjoyed my first Sigerson final. Well deserved win for Mary's who played with far more flair and passion. UCD were like many current inter-county teams ... coached to retain possession to such a degree that they were afraid to shoot from scorable positions. Mary's were prepared to have a go. As a neutral I thought the ref was okay, applied the rules similarly for both sides. UCD should have got a free in at the end but that balanced a similar call at the other end 5/10nmins earlier. Mary's support play was superb but their keeper had us all on the edge. Meyler was a class apart. Poor form by UCD players (not all of them) who left the pitch during acceptance speech.
Thought McKernan used his experience to get St Mary's over the line. For one of the younger players O'Neill showed great composure. Meylor deservedly got man of match.
Great win for the ranch. Particular congratulations to my club mates who were involved in both the playing and coaching.
On an aside have St Mary's and QUB still got that problem over whether St Mary's students can play for QUB? Or has that been resolved? If so how?
Brilliant for Paddy Tally. He's put a lot of time into Ranch GAA over the years, coping with that disease Mickey says he has.
Quote from: ONeill on February 18, 2017, 08:36:24 PM
Brilliant for Paddy Tally. He's put a lot of time into Ranch GAA over the years, coping with that disease Mickey says he has.
Huh?
Outstanding achievement by the ranch, some big individual talents on that side, the best of them unfortunately from Tyrone. However it was the strength of the collective that got them the title. McCaffrey and Mannion had little impact on the game for UCD and McCaffrey today looked like he has lost a bit of the dash he had a few years ago. When it became a battle in the last 10/15 mins Meyler was the one player who stood above all others even if he is fond of the Tyrone histrionics on occasion.
Very impressed with McCann today too, was really to the fore in the first half. Took his points well, set up a few more and won a lot of ball around the middle.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on February 18, 2017, 09:50:48 PM
Very impressed with McCann today too, was really to the fore in the first half. Took his points well, set up a few more and won a lot of ball around the middle.
Best player on the pitch in the first half, he was everywhere.
Omagh Gael. ....you say you can't wait to see conor playing for the county. What about playing for your club?
Quote from: Throw ball on February 18, 2017, 08:00:54 PM
Thought McKernan used his experience to get St Mary's over the line. For one of the younger players O'Neill showed great composure. Meylor deservedly got man of match.
I thought McKernan's role was central to success myself. More fight & passion in St Marys.
Quote from: The Trap on February 18, 2017, 10:31:24 PM
Omagh Gael. ....you say you can't wait to see conor playing for the county. What about playing for your club?
Not 100% sure of the situation at the club, I've been out of Omagh for 6 years so not up to speed.
Fantastic performance and result from st Mary's. Delighted for all involved. From an Armagh point of view, it's brilliant to see O'Neill and McKay and a few others to the fore. Some of the Tyrone lads were absolutely fantastic as was Kevin McKenna. Great for Ulster football
Hup the ranch. Backboned and managed by Tyrone men too.
Yeah yeah yeah, great day for Ulster although it's shaming on uuj
Are St Pats Drumcondra the Southern equivalent of St Mary's? They'd be well off today's level of football.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on February 19, 2017, 12:30:20 AM
Are St Pats Drumcondra the Southern equivalent of St Mary's? They'd be well off today's level of football.
Yes they would be. Whilst St Marys are smallish they are a Catholic teaching college so do attract a lot of good young players mostly from the six counties.
Quote from: regal on February 19, 2017, 12:03:56 AM
Yeah yeah yeah, great day for Ulster although it's shaming on uuj
UUj shouldn't bring the rest down. Today was a victory for integrity. Uuj seriously lacking in this department
Delighted for St Marys, played their golf event years ago, very welcoming and engaging but overall determined to succeed. They where always pissing against the wind fair play. Being labelled as a county team is total BS, look at the previous winners from our capital or Munster this win is kin to Leicester City winning the premiership.
Student population isn't everything but still mightly impressive when you see Mary's and their opponents on the way.
St Mary's 1,040
NUIG 17,282
DCU 16,000
UCC 18,820
UCD 32,387
Student population is not accurate with regard to St.Marys. look through their team and you'll see some of the best young players in Ulster. Mix that in with players like Kevin McKernan who has played for Ulster and Ireland and is probably the most experienced player in the Sigerson competition. Ranch have been very strong for past 5 years so whilst this victory is unusual its far from a shock. The best thing about it is that St Marys represent traditional Sigerson values unlike other colleges who attempt to buy Sigerson every year!!
Quote from: dec on February 18, 2017, 05:56:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 18, 2017, 05:38:33 PM
0-13 to 2-06 is never a classic, lads.
Well done to St. Mary's but they took a page out of the UUJ/Dublin schools' playbook to win this one. It does make UUJ look even more more foolish when a smaller college in the same province can spend less and get what they are so desperate for.
Sigerson needs to be moved to before Christmas and this semi and final on the same weekend needs to end ASAP.
In the past did they have 3 rounds all on one weekend?
Yep that was the way it was until from memory the year of the infamous Trinity Boat Club episode in 1990
Quote from: Take Your Points on February 18, 2017, 05:35:47 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on February 18, 2017, 04:38:13 PM
Small pick yes but their team is pretty much a county team
An amazing achievement for St Mary's and Paddy Tally.
Achievement is mostly down to a clever recruitment policy by Paddy Tally, fair play to him. He had made a point of seeking out and encouraging county standard players to start in St Mary's or transfer across from the two universities. Beating the Poly at its own game in recruitment. Last time such a county player heavy squad available to the Ranch was back in the late 70s and early 80s.
Also helped by the introduction of the Liberal Arts degree programme (non-teaching qualification) which has increased the intake to the college at a time when teacher training places are being withdrawn and the courses are heavily female dominated. Very few male teachers coming through. Grades required for teaching courses are now mostly 3 As which further restricts the entry. However, St Mary's operate outside UCAS system and have complete control of their intake. Be interesting to know how many of the squad are in the Liberal Arts courses rather than teaching.
Don't think so in late 8Os early 90's ranch had Peter and Paschal Canavan , Cathal Murray, Ollie Reel Seamus Downey, DannyQuinn, John Rafferty , Ferhal McCann ,Jarlath Burns amongst others
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on February 19, 2017, 10:31:56 AM
Quote from: Take Your Points on February 18, 2017, 05:35:47 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on February 18, 2017, 04:38:13 PM
Small pick yes but their team is pretty much a county team
An amazing achievement for St Mary's and Paddy Tally.
Achievement is mostly down to a clever recruitment policy by Paddy Tally, fair play to him. He had made a point of seeking out and encouraging county standard players to start in St Mary's or transfer across from the two universities. Beating the Poly at its own game in recruitment. Last time such a county player heavy squad available to the Ranch was back in the late 70s and early 80s.
Also helped by the introduction of the Liberal Arts degree programme (non-teaching qualification) which has increased the intake to the college at a time when teacher training places are being withdrawn and the courses are heavily female dominated. Very few male teachers coming through. Grades required for teaching courses are now mostly 3 As which further restricts the entry. However, St Mary's operate outside UCAS system and have complete control of their intake. Be interesting to know how many of the squad are in the Liberal Arts courses rather than teaching.
Don't think so in late 8Os early 90's ranch had Peter and Paschal Canavan , Cathal Murray, Ollie Reel Seamus Downey, DannyQuinn, John Rafferty , Ferhal McCann ,Jarlath Burns amongst others
Was the boul Benny Tierney not there as well.
How could I forget about Benny, yep he was there too as was well
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 19, 2017, 04:01:47 AM
Student population isn't everything but still mightly impressive when you see Mary's and their opponents on the way.
St Mary's 1,040
NUIG 17,282
DCU 16,000
UCC 18,820
UCD 32,387
Plus St. Mary's numbers are mostly taken up by women! Some achievement. Glad the likes of UUJ didn't get anywhere near winning it.
Quote from: yellowcard on February 18, 2017, 09:02:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 18, 2017, 08:36:24 PM
Brilliant for Paddy Tally. He's put a lot of time into Ranch GAA over the years, coping with that disease Mickey says he has.
Huh?
Outstanding achievement by the ranch, some big individual talents on that side, the best of them unfortunately from Tyrone. However it was the strength of the collective that got them the title. McCaffrey and Mannion had little impact on the game for UCD and McCaffrey today looked like he has lost a bit of the dash he had a few years ago. When it became a battle in the last 10/15 mins Meyler was the one player who stood above all others even if he is fond of the Tyrone histrionics on occasion.
Read Mickeys book !!
Quote from: 5 Sams on February 19, 2017, 11:14:05 AM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on February 19, 2017, 10:31:56 AM
Quote from: Take Your Points on February 18, 2017, 05:35:47 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on February 18, 2017, 04:38:13 PM
Small pick yes but their team is pretty much a county team
An amazing achievement for St Mary's and Paddy Tally.
Achievement is mostly down to a clever recruitment policy by Paddy Tally, fair play to him. He had made a point of seeking out and encouraging county standard players to start in St Mary's or transfer across from the two universities. Beating the Poly at its own game in recruitment. Last time such a county player heavy squad available to the Ranch was back in the late 70s and early 80s.
Also helped by the introduction of the Liberal Arts degree programme (non-teaching qualification) which has increased the intake to the college at a time when teacher training places are being withdrawn and the courses are heavily female dominated. Very few male teachers coming through. Grades required for teaching courses are now mostly 3 As which further restricts the entry. However, St Mary's operate outside UCAS system and have complete control of their intake. Be interesting to know how many of the squad are in the Liberal Arts courses rather than teaching.
Don't think so in late 8Os early 90's ranch had Peter and Paschal Canavan , Cathal Murray, Ollie Reel Seamus Downey, DannyQuinn, John Rafferty , Ferhal McCann ,Jarlath Burns amongst others
Was the boul Benny Tierney not there as well.
St Mary's 1989 Sigerson Cup winning team: Benny Tierney, Malachy O'Rourke, Martin McNally, Pascal Canavan, John Rafferty, Danny Quinn, Cathal Murray, John Reihill, Jarlath Burns, Seamus Downey, Olly Reel, Paddy Barton, Martin Houlahan, Fergal McCann, Iggy Gallagher.
Managers: Jim McKeever and Peter Finn.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on February 19, 2017, 12:30:20 AM
Are St Pats Drumcondra the Southern equivalent of St Mary's? They'd be well off today's level of football.
If St Mary's was just a teacher training college it would be barely fit to produce a competitive football team. Teaching intake has been greatly decreased due to over-supply.
On the basis of the 2016 graduation, there are around 532 students on the 4 year BEd teaching course, there are 240 students taking BA in Liberal Arts courses and around 15-20 taking the PGCE teaching course for Irish Medium schools. This means that the college has around 792 students.
This shows the level of this achievement to have a football squad winning the Sigerson from an enrolment of less than 800 students compared to the thousands attending the universities.
However, the level of achievement is even greater when it is considered that the number of men taking the BEd course is 144 and the number taking the teaching course is just 80. It is some going to not just have a competitive team but a Sigerson winning squad from a male enrolment of just 224 in St Mary's College! A huge share of this achievement must go to Paddy Tally for building this squad and managing them to this victory.
Sigerson better in the old days with just elite universities and Coleraine
Quote from: T Fearon on February 19, 2017, 03:55:49 PM
Sigerson better in the old days with just elite universities and Coleraine
zzzzzzz........
The contrast over the last week sums up where Sigerson is. UUJ again the dock for fielding illegal players after their team of superstars get hammeted by UCD. Then little St Mary's from same parish go on and win the thing out by having a real team .
The issue is that UUJ are at this every year but are never held to account. Neither the public or the media give a damn so they carry on regardless.
Quote from: Take Your Points on February 19, 2017, 02:01:00 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on February 19, 2017, 12:30:20 AM
Are St Pats Drumcondra the Southern equivalent of St Mary's? They'd be well off today's level of football.
If St Mary's was just a teacher training college it would be barely fit to produce a competitive football team. Teaching intake has been greatly decreased due to over-supply.
On the basis of the 2016 graduation, there are around 532 students on the 4 year BEd teaching course, there are 240 students taking BA in Liberal Arts courses and around 15-20 taking the PGCE teaching course for Irish Medium schools. This means that the college has around 792 students.
This shows the level of this achievement to have a football squad winning the Sigerson from an enrolment of less than 800 students compared to the thousands attending the universities.
However, the level of achievement is even greater when it is considered that the number of men taking the BEd course is 144 and the number taking the teaching course is just 80. It is some going to not just have a competitive team but a Sigerson winning squad from a male enrolment of just 224 in St Mary's College! A huge share of this achievement must go to Paddy Tally for building this squad and managing them to this victory.
Out of interest what course is 29 year old Kevin McKiernan doing?
What is a liberal Arts course good for in regard to a getting a career.
Liberal Arts courses are full of liberal women.
Quote from: skeog on February 19, 2017, 05:50:52 PM
What is a liberal Arts course good for in regard to a getting a career.
From St Mary's website: (http://www.smucb.ac.uk/academic/liberalarts/default.asp/url)
What does a Liberal Arts degree enable me to do?
Liberal Arts graduates from St Mary's have been successful in gaining places on a wide range of post-graduate study programmes, and in gaining employment in a varied range of professions including:
Accountant
Bank trainee manager
Business Development Manager
Community Education Officer
Equal Opportunities Officer
Financial Services Advisor
Human Resources Manager
Irish Language Broadcaster
Marketing and Events Coordinator
Police Officer
PR and Marketing Manager
Priest
Professional Copywriter
Sports Development Officer
Teacher
Quote from: ck on February 19, 2017, 05:23:46 PM
The contrast over the last week sums up where Sigerson is. UUJ again the dock for fielding illegal players after their team of superstars get hammeted by UCD. Then little St Mary's from same parish go on and win the thing out by having a real team .
The issue is that UUJ are at this every year but are never held to account. Neither the public or the media give a damn so they carry on regardless.
Recruitment of players is the key for every college in the competition, just some are better at it than others and some keep within the rules.
There was a report out last week where around 20% of Arts grads are on less than €13,000 a year. IT way out in front, as it should be, with about half of the grads earning €29,000 a year.
Arts is for people who don't have too much of an idea what they want to do when they graduate. A lot go on to do a Masters or PHD in a field more applicable to a job. STEM is for people who want a job and/or know the field they want to operate in.
Sigerson was a much better tournament with just the six elite universities each with history and tradition and Coleraine thrown in as cannon fodder.Teacher training colleges had their own Ryan Cup also a good tournament.
The "st Mary's have only 300 male students" line is been throw around a lot on social media this weekend. Without wishing to piss on anyone's parade the figures are a tad misleading. As it's a teacher training college for effectively Catholic grammar schools, there's an unusually high ratio of students who have chosen a university path with a specific remit of playing and then coaching Gaelic Football.
While it's hardly set up to be a crack commando training unit, the format of their intake means they'll always be competitive.
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Nobody has any business playing college football at 29 years old.
Sigerson needs 2 simple rules a la American colleges system: you can't play varsity sport past your 23rd birthday, and you can't play more than 4 seasons of it.
Recruitment tends to be more honest in these scenarios.
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Despite my grumbles, sincerest congratulations to St Mary's on their Sigerson. Delighted to see it.
Quote from: thewobbler on February 19, 2017, 07:47:09 PM
The "st Mary's have only 300 male students" line is been throw around a lot on social media this weekend. Without wishing to piss on anyone's parade the figures are a tad misleading. As it's a teacher training college for effectively Catholic grammar schools, there's an unusually high ratio of students who have chosen a university path with a specific remit of playing and then coaching Gaelic Football.
While it's hardly set up to be a crack commando training unit, the format of their intake means they'll always be competitive.
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Nobody has any business playing college football at 29 years old.
Sigerson needs 2 simple rules a la American colleges system: you can't play varsity sport past your 23rd birthday, and you can't play more than 4 seasons of it.
Recruitment tends to be more honest in these scenarios.
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Despite my grumbles, sincerest congratulations to St Mary's on their Sigerson. Delighted to see it.
Eh? Which sports? NCAA football is the granddaddy in the US and it hasn't those rules, certainly not to the stringency you're suggesting. Brandon Weeden was a pro baseball player who went to college for the first time and ended up being a first round draft pick in the NFL at 28-29.
The problem isn't the age of players. If someone only gets round to going to college at 24 or 27 they shouldn't be punished for that. The problem is players jumping colleges because of money being offered to them to do so, with little being done by the GAA to prevent it. Losing a year of eligibility a la NCAA football in those cases would fix much of that.
Apologies - I was confused there. American collegiate rules are you can play up to four seasons, all within 5 years of leaving school.
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TBH I cant see an issue anyhow with putting an age limit on it.
Anyone at uni also has a club and a county (if they're good enough). It's hardly robbing them of football to suggest that it's for a specific target age.
Sigerson 2017 promo shoot...notice thst a certain West Belfast college is missing?
(http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/ss46/darragh_mccullagh/B2016320.jpg) (http://s560.photobucket.com/user/darragh_mccullagh/media/B2016320.jpg.html)
Why don't any of those lads in that picture appear to be breathing? Don't people usually breathe?
Quote from: Christmas Lights on February 19, 2017, 10:04:30 PM
Why don't any of those lads in that picture appear to be breathing? Don't people usually breathe?
It's a still photo.
You can breathe through your nose.
Paddy Tally has been at St Marys for years so delighted for him and wonder will that have an impact on maybe being the next Tyrone manager, whenever that might be.
On another note, does Martin McHugh lecture at UUJ or why is he their manager?
McHugh lecture??? :o :o :o :o
Do you ever listen to the garbage that comes out of his mouth!!
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 20, 2017, 09:42:42 AM
Paddy Tally has been at St Marys for years so delighted for him and wonder will that have an impact on maybe being the next Tyrone manager, whenever that might be.
On another note, does Martin McHugh lecture at UUJ or why is he their manager?
He managed the Sligo IT team too.
Does the manager of a college team have to be a lecturer or otherwise employed by the college?
Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 03:22:31 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 20, 2017, 09:42:42 AM
Paddy Tally has been at St Marys for years so delighted for him and wonder will that have an impact on maybe being the next Tyrone manager, whenever that might be.
On another note, does Martin McHugh lecture at UUJ or why is he their manager?
He managed the Sligo IT team too.
Does the manager of a college team have to be a lecturer or otherwise employed by the college?
Of course not. There is no criteria for management teams anywhere in the GAA.
Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 03:22:31 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 20, 2017, 09:42:42 AM
Paddy Tally has been at St Marys for years so delighted for him and wonder will that have an impact on maybe being the next Tyrone manager, whenever that might be.
On another note, does Martin McHugh lecture at UUJ or why is he their manager?
He managed the Sligo IT team too.
Does the manager of a college team have to be a lecturer or otherwise employed by the college?
He managed IT Sligo in the glory years but he was manager again for a year before UUJ poached both him and his two sons. Sigerson as a competition has the sum total value of zero when shïte like that can happen, IMHO.
Quote from: Syferus on February 20, 2017, 06:59:23 PM
Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 03:22:31 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 20, 2017, 09:42:42 AM
Paddy Tally has been at St Marys for years so delighted for him and wonder will that have an impact on maybe being the next Tyrone manager, whenever that might be.
On another note, does Martin McHugh lecture at UUJ or why is he their manager?
He managed the Sligo IT team too.
Does the manager of a college team have to be a lecturer or otherwise employed by the college?
He managed IT Sligo in the glory but he was manager again for a year before UUJ poached both him and his two sons. Sigerson as a competition has the sum total value of zero when shïte like that can happen, IMHO.
I'm sure the St marys lads share your sentiments. If you said it then it must be true
Quote from: Syferus on February 20, 2017, 06:59:23 PM
Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 03:22:31 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 20, 2017, 09:42:42 AM
Paddy Tally has been at St Marys for years so delighted for him and wonder will that have an impact on maybe being the next Tyrone manager, whenever that might be.
On another note, does Martin McHugh lecture at UUJ or why is he their manager?
He managed the Sligo IT team too.
Does the manager of a college team have to be a lecturer or otherwise employed by the college?
He managed IT Sligo in the glory but he was manager again for a year before UUJ poached both him and his two sons. Sigerson as a competition has the sum total value of zero when shïte like that can happen, IMHO.
Would agree with that. UUJ approached McHugh his son and nephew (as well as a few others) and poached them north. Martin McHugh has absolutely no connection to uuj apart from the payment they offered him. Lot a good it did them! A shameless lot.
As I said Sigerson was much better and had a lot more integrity in the olden days when it featured just the elite universities,made up of serious academic undergraduates,and Coleraine,instead of the semi illiterate mercenaries in technical colleges in the modern era.
My late brother won a Sigerson medal with Queens in 1982, alongside teammates like Greg Blaney,and their opponents in the final, UCG,had the likes of Seamus Mc Hugh,Anthony Finnerty,Barry Brennan,Peter Forde etc.
How long has Paddy Tally been managing the ranch ?
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on February 20, 2017, 10:19:46 PM
How long has Paddy Tally been managing the ranch ?
About 10 years. He's had some very good teams, much better than this years side but silverware has always eluded him
Quote from: RedHandTom on February 21, 2017, 10:32:07 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on February 20, 2017, 10:19:46 PM
How long has Paddy Tally been managing the ranch ?
About 10 years. He's had some very good teams, much better than this years side but silverware has always eluded him
It's definitely more than 10 years. Could be up on 15 possibly. Delighted for him - great fella.
Some achievement, fair play to him
I thought I saw 1999 in his article as when he first got involved with them.
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 22, 2017, 11:47:35 AM
I thought I saw 1999 in his article as when he first got involved with them.
He was definitely there when I moved to Belfast in 2001!
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 20, 2017, 09:42:42 AM
Paddy Tally has been at St Marys for years so delighted for him and wonder will that have an impact on maybe being the next Tyrone manager, whenever that might be.
On another note, does Martin McHugh lecture at UUJ or why is he their manager?
Martin McHugh a lecturer at UUJ- are you serious?!
The only reason he was up there is to lift the brown envelope from Tommy Joe
That's what I suspected myself but I was trying to be diplomatic.
Seems weird though that they would put so much effort into bringing in so many intercounty players yet go for a manager like McHugh. Who was the last club or team he managed or is he just Mr "Look-it" on the radio/TV?
Who was managing Queens? Do other college have outsider managers with no association with their college?
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 22, 2017, 12:57:15 PM
That's what I suspected myself but I was trying to be diplomatic.
Seems weird though that they would put so much effort into bringing in so many intercounty players yet go for a manager like McHugh. Who was the last club or team he managed or is he just Mr "Look-it" on the radio/TV?
Who was managing Queens? Do other college have outsider managers with no association with their college?
I did see Billy Morgan was in charge of UCC (because he was sent off in one game and had to watch the semi from outside the field) He has been involved with them on and off going back to when he played with them in the 60s/70s.
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 22, 2017, 12:57:15 PM
That's what I suspected myself but I was trying to be diplomatic.
Seems weird though that they would put so much effort into bringing in so many intercounty players yet go for a manager like McHugh. Who was the last club or team he managed or is he just Mr "Look-it" on the radio/TV?
Who was managing Queens? Do other college have outsider managers with no association with their college?
McHugh took Kilcar last year. Beat in the Donegal final by Glenswilly I believe.
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 22, 2017, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on February 22, 2017, 12:57:15 PM
That's what I suspected myself but I was trying to be diplomatic.
Seems weird though that they would put so much effort into bringing in so many intercounty players yet go for a manager like McHugh. Who was the last club or team he managed or is he just Mr "Look-it" on the radio/TV?
Who was managing Queens? Do other college have outsider managers with no association with their college?
I did see Billy Morgan was in charge of UCC (because he was sent off in one game and had to watch the semi from outside the field) He has been involved with them on and off going back to when he played with them in the 60s/70s.
Would have been the mid 60's given his age (he's about 70). I saw a fantastic photo before in a book of a victorious UCC arriving back in to Cork on the train having won the sigerson. As they were getting off the train Morgan (who was only a first year) was being carried by his teammates as he was too drunk to stand.
UU off on some warm weather training tomorrow. Away to China for a fortnight. Sponsored by Randox
Ulster University's GAA team is preparing to travel to China on an historic tour of the country as part of the university's wider programme of engagement in key international markets.
The trip, sponsored by Crumlin-based diagnostics firm Randox, will see a 35 strong team depart on 28 October for a two week cultural exchange that aims to develop and enhance links with a number of Chinese academic institutions.
The team will travel to Beijing, Wuhan, and Huangshi City and play several games as part of an extensive tour promoting sporting excellence at Ulster University and Gaelic Games in particular.
Professor Ian Montgomery, Pro-Vice Chancellor, Global Engagement at Ulster University said:
"GAA is of increasing interest to the Chinese people and there is a strong appetite to learn about the various sports, key tactics and the strong cultural identity which Ulster University's GAA team has developed over many decades. This tour, supported by Randox, will give our team the opportunity to showcase Gaelic football and hurling to a vast audience which is interested to learn more and experience a game first-hand through a number of Gaelic Games masterclasses."
"As an internationally focused university it is important to continually build new partnerships in this vast market and further enhance existing linkages. We look forward to building on our work in this region and meeting new connections as part of the tour."
Dr Peter FitzGerald, founder of Randox, said:
"We are pleased to support Ulster University's Gaelic team as they embark on a very exciting tour of China. It is one of our most important markets, as we have been exporting to China since 1992 and we have had an established presence in the region for several years. This is a brilliant opportunity for our partnership with Ulster University to profile some of the young sporting talents of Northern Ireland and to strengthen key business relationships in an important market."