Have you seen this? What's your opinion?
I think it's a very hard hitting look at one of the most prominent times in our lives. For me it evoked so many sad memories of a horrible time in our lives, but by god it reinforces also their steely resolve and determination in my mind. Brave men, heroes.
Complete waste when you consider the present day,SF ensconced at Stormont and the Queen being fawned over North and South.
Quote from: T Fearon on August 14, 2016, 02:49:22 PM
Complete waste when you consider the present day,SF ensconced at Stormont and the Queen being fawned over North and South.
Is there any other poster here as obsessed with the Queen as yourself Tony?
Is there anywhere one could watch this online if one was so inclined?
Quote from: T Fearon on August 14, 2016, 02:49:22 PM
Complete waste when you consider the present day,SF ensconced at Stormont and the Queen being fawned over North and South.
Have you seen the film Tony?
Have read reviews and believe it is just a series of clips.recorded at the time,which I remember well enough.As a commentator said last week Bobby Sands and the other nine must be turning in their graves.
If somebody wanted a coke, Tony would insist they had Pepsi.
Quote from: The Gs Man on August 15, 2016, 03:15:58 PM
If somebody wanted a coke, Tony would insist they had Pepsi.
..based on reviews.....having never tried either himself.
Well? What unique insight or footage does the film provide that those of us who actually lived through the period haven't seen about one hundred times already?
As for our revenge being the laughter of our children,in my experience the hunger strikers don't even register with our children at all.
What experience do you have of children as regards discussing the hunger strikes
I rarely agree with Tony, but he's 100% right here. Do any of you think that had Bobby Sands seen into the future , he'd be happy? Do you think he'd have eaten his breakfast the next morning?
Why what's wrong with what we have now?
Quote from: T Fearon on August 15, 2016, 06:03:24 PM
As for our revenge being the laughter of our children,in my experience the hunger strikers don't even register with our children at all.
Children can go out and laugh and play without the fear of rubber bullets being fired at them.
The fact that it doesn't register with them is a good thing. They'll learn all about it when they get older.
The basic point is this Nigel. He didn't starve himself to death to see the likes of Martin McGuinness licking the queens hole...but wait, that's right , that's the " dinosaur point of view"....
Quote from: cadhlancian on August 15, 2016, 08:30:51 PM
I rarely agree with Tony, but he's 100% right here. Do any of you think that had Bobby Sands seen into the future , he'd be happy? Do you think he'd have eaten his breakfast the next morning?
Do you think Padraig Pearse would have bothered if knew what his fellow countrymen would do to the place over the next 100 years.
A hell of a lot more was " won" on the back of the rising, I think he'd have been happy enough....
Quote from: cadhlancian on August 15, 2016, 08:37:51 PM
The basic point is this Nigel. He didn't starve himself to death to see the likes of Martin McGuinness licking the queens hole...but wait, that's right , that's the " dinosaur point of view"....
Yup, you're right about the last bit.
Quote from: cadhlancian on August 15, 2016, 08:47:35 PM
A hell of a lot more was " won" on the back of the rising, I think he'd have been happy enough....
26 counties. Good job.
Quote from: foxcommander on August 15, 2016, 08:49:37 PM
Quote from: cadhlancian on August 15, 2016, 08:47:35 PM
A hell of a lot more was " won" on the back of the rising, I think he'd have been happy enough....
26 counties. Good job.
Better than the zero counties which were had previous to the Rising.
26 counties which fawns over the Queen and shits itself due to Brexit.Big Gav Robinson,DUP was right when he said the freestate was afraid of losing its big mate (Britain). Now we face a hard border separating North from South due to voters in North of England.26 independent counties? My arse.
Can Tony even make a post these days without thinking of the royals?
Quote from: T Fearon on August 15, 2016, 10:31:15 PM
26 counties which fawns over the Queen and shits itself due to Brexit.Big Gav Robinson,DUP was right when he said the freestate was afraid of losing its big mate (Britain). Now we face a hard border separating North from South due to voters in North of England.26 independent counties? My arse.
And what have you ever done to try and change things. Where do you stand as regards the queen, whose name you honour with a capital q, and all things British
I am oblivious to all of it.Nowadays money it seems is all that matters,the freestate's trade with Britain trumps everything else,even the GAA goes out of its way to curry favour and avail of British funding to develop facilities and hire out its facilities for so called foreign games.
Sinn Fein goes out of its way to be involved when senior royals visit Ireland,North and South.
It has all changed so quickly.I remember only 15 years ago,a political commentator in the Belfast Telegraph bemoaning the fact that even major hotels in Dublin and elsewhere in the South never fly the Union flag amid the host of other national flags they had to welcome guests.
Quote from: cadhlancian on August 15, 2016, 08:30:51 PM
I rarely agree with Tony, but he's 100% right here. Do any of you think that had Bobby Sands seen into the future , he'd be happy? Do you think he'd have eaten his breakfast the next morning?
Well some shinners seem to have a rather bizarre interpretation of their motivations http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/hunger-strikers-died-for-gay-rights-claims-sinn-fein-senator-fintan-warfield-34965230.html
Was a very good film. As for the rest being discussed on here, nobody knows
Quote from: foxcommander on August 15, 2016, 08:49:37 PM
Quote from: cadhlancian on August 15, 2016, 08:47:35 PM
A hell of a lot more was " won" on the back of the rising, I think he'd have been happy enough....
26 counties. Good job.
Dont forget getting ruled by priests for 50 years. Great craic that was for all concerned.
Quote from: T Fearon on August 16, 2016, 05:26:31 AM
I am oblivious to all of it.Nowadays money it seems is all that matters,the freestate's trade with Britain trumps everything else,even the GAA goes out of its way to curry favour and avail of British funding to develop facilities and hire out its facilities for so called foreign games.
Sinn Fein goes out of its way to be involved when senior royals visit Ireland,North and South.
It has all changed so quickly.I remember only 15 years ago,a political commentator in the Belfast Telegraph bemoaning the fact that even major hotels in Dublin and elsewhere in the South never fly the Union flag amid the host of other national flags they had to welcome guests.
So what do you think should happen?
I think it is inevitable that the freestate will join the commonwealth.We are now in effectively a post nationalist Ireland with revisionism pointing towards the proposition that the 1916 Rising was a fatal error.
Then all the graves will turn...
Quote from: T Fearon on August 16, 2016, 01:53:41 PM
I think it is inevitable that the freestate will join the commonwealth.We are now in effectively a post nationalist Ireland with revisionism pointing towards the proposition that the 1916 Rising was a fatal error.
Pearse died so Irish people would be free to choose the way of life they wanted ,
He had his own idea of what that was but as a republican he'd have know that future generations would make their own path .
I'm sure it was never part of his plan the he would be a dead monarch ruling from beyond the grave ensuring nothing would change. in Fact id reckon his biggest regret would be I'm writing this in English
Quote from: T Fearon on August 16, 2016, 01:53:41 PM
I think it is inevitable that the freestate will join the commonwealth.We are now in effectively a post nationalist Ireland with revisionism pointing towards the proposition that the 1916 Rising was a fatal error.
So what would you like to see happening?
Am happy enough with status quo.I am comfortable,healthy have a good standard of life,and wouldn't swap it for the unknown of a united Ireland in which I am not wanted anyway.
So what are you yapping about then
Yapping?
What I mean is that I don't waste my time over something that will never happen.In my.lifetime I have seen incredible change up here which I never believed would happen.I.don't feel unhappy with the status quo now.
Quote from: T Fearon on August 17, 2016, 01:22:50 PM
What I mean is that I don't waste my time over something that will never happen.In my.lifetime I have seen incredible change up here which I never believed would happen.I.don't feel unhappy with the status quo now.
Feck sake it was only yesterday you were giving out about the Shinners because they are "happily ensconced in Stormont".
Quote from: T Fearon on August 17, 2016, 01:22:50 PM
In my.lifetime I have seen incredible change up here which I never believed would happen.I.don't feel unhappy with the status quo now.
You are very easily pleased, for someone always giving out.
I as you know now firmly subscribe to a Northern Irish identity on the basis that a)We in the North have more in common with each other than with people across the water or down south and b) Neither London nor Dublin wants us anyway.
When you recognise and accept these two irrefutable facts it's amazing how at ease and dare I say liberated,you feel!
Quote from: T Fearon on August 17, 2016, 04:10:46 PM
I as you know now firmly subscribe to a Northern Irish identity on the basis that a)We in the North have more in common with each other than with people across the water or down south and b) Neither London nor Dublin wants us anyway.
When you recognise and accept these two irrefutable facts it's amazing how at ease and dare I say liberated,you feel!
(http://www.eureferendum.com/images/000a%20forelock-024.jpg)
You don't understand.The point of being N Irish is that you don't tug your forelock to anyone,not London, Not Dublin who jointly have betrayed all of us here for far too long
Does your employer know about the stuff you're putting up on social media? We keep telling young people to be careful of what they put up on FB etc and here's you, an adult, constantly posting nonsense, a lot of it during work hours. Apart from posting on social media and constantly doing pointless competitions do you actually do any work?