A new documentary is due to air later this month relating to the investigation into missing 6 year old, Mary Boyle, who went missing during a visit to her Grandparents at Cashelard, near Ballyshannon almost 40 years ago. The trailer for it is fascinating, a lot of people seem certain they know who is responsible ...
https://youtu.be/LtN19gKGY1Y (https://youtu.be/LtN19gKGY1Y)
Haunting stuff. Would be well worth watching though.
Who is the suspect?
Sounds like it's someone who still lives locally in the area where the girl went missing. Suspicion is one thing, but in the absence of a confession, evidence after 39 years is a different story.
I've heard it said the brother of...
Quote from: JimStynes on May 16, 2016, 07:13:44 AM
Who is the suspect?
[/quote Guards might know.........
I am a great believer in evidence. A lot of posters however believe that "theres no smoke without fire" counts as evidence. As a rsult people end up being wrongly accused
Can we organise a lynching? :-\
Quote from: Ulick on May 16, 2016, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the
decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
When is this on?
Quote from: J70 on May 16, 2016, 02:53:50 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 16, 2016, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Quote from: FL/MAYO on May 16, 2016, 02:58:22 PM
His name is mentioned in the comments section of the YouTube clip.
Is an anonymous YouTube clip comment clearance to repeat a possibly libelous comment here?
It's a very serious and defamatory allegation.
Who's liable if the smeared person decides to take action against GAA Board?
Quote from: J70 on May 16, 2016, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: FL/MAYO on May 16, 2016, 02:58:22 PM
His name is mentioned in the comments section of the YouTube clip.
Is an anonymous YouTube clip comment clearance to repeat a possibly libelous comment here?
It's a very serious and defamatory allegation.
Who's liable if the smeared person decides to take action against GAA Board?
I think nowadays if the Gaa Board gives the IP address they go after the poster.
I will have a look to see if I can the article I am thinking of.
Here is a US journalist viewpoint: http://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/digital-journalists-legal-guide/anonymous-speech-online-when-must-identit (http://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/digital-journalists-legal-guide/anonymous-speech-online-when-must-identit)
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Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
And ironic given we're talking about a disappearance in a border area in the 70s.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on May 16, 2016, 03:19:21 PM
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Quote from: Ulick on May 16, 2016, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Jean McConville
Quote from: Franko on May 16, 2016, 04:48:45 PM
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Quote from: Ulick on May 16, 2016, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Jean McConville
1970s...border area... T'is ironic all right.
Quote from: J70 on May 16, 2016, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: FL/MAYO on May 16, 2016, 02:58:22 PM
His name is mentioned in the comments section of the YouTube clip.
Is an anonymous YouTube clip comment clearance to repeat a possibly libelous comment here?
It's a very serious and defamatory allegation.
Who's liable if the smeared person decides to take action against GAA Board?
It's only libelous if it's not true.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on May 16, 2016, 03:19:21 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 16, 2016, 02:53:50 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 16, 2016, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
It's all a bit different when it's not a Shinner on the end of a smear eh lads?
Quote from: J70 on May 16, 2016, 02:53:50 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 16, 2016, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
I didn't identify him and neither did I say he murdered the child. I answered a direct question as to the suspect is who (i) has been reported to the Gardaí (ii) name has been passed to both Enda Kenny and Micheál Martin (iii) is going to be the subject of this documentary. Those are facts not libels. If this was any ordinary citizen he would have at least been pulled in for questioning years ago.
Quote from: Ulick on May 16, 2016, 04:57:58 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 16, 2016, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: FL/MAYO on May 16, 2016, 02:58:22 PM
His name is mentioned in the comments section of the YouTube clip.
Is an anonymous YouTube clip comment clearance to repeat a possibly libelous comment here?
It's a very serious and defamatory allegation.
Who's liable if the smeared person decides to take action against GAA Board?
It's only libelous if it's not true.
Well, if you're that confident that its not libelous, then maybe you should put your name to the charge.
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Quote from: J70 on May 16, 2016, 02:53:50 PM
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Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
I didn't identify him and neither did I say he murdered the child. I answered a direct question as to the suspect is who (i) has been reported to the Gardaí (ii) name has been passed to both Enda Kenny and Micheál Martin (iii) is going to be the subject of this documentary. Those are facts not libels. If this was any ordinary citizen he would have at least been pulled in for questioning years ago.
Come off it, you did so identify him. I knew, based only on what you wrote, exactly who you were talking about before you deleted half of the implicating language from your original post. I guarantee I was not the only one. It was about as thinly disguised an identification as one could possibly imagine without naming names.
Good God.You wouldn't want to be running into the sister in a deserted place on a dark night.😱😱😱
Quote from: T Fearon on May 16, 2016, 06:48:31 PM
Good God.You wouldn't want to be running into the sister in a deserted place on a dark night.😱😱😱
Says Armaghs Adonis. You may not he her ideal pin up either.
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Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Jean McConville
1970s...border area... T'is ironic all right.
More similarities than that... whiff of political wrongdoing without proof. The only thing missing is the faux outrage. How many people on this board have come out with potentially libellous comments about Gerry Adams. It happens on a weekly basis. No uproar from you there. Anyway, before i get accused of being a shinnerbot/sf lackey/spokesperson for adams... continue ad nauseum... I'll bow out. I couldn't help but point out the glaring inconsistency here though.
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Quote from: Ulick on May 16, 2016, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Jean McConville
1970s...border area... T'is ironic all right.
More similarities than that... whiff of political wrongdoing without proof. The only thing missing is the faux outrage. How many people on this board have come out with potentially libellous comments about Gerry Adams. It happens on a weekly basis. No uproar from you there. Anyway, before i get accused of being a shinnerbot/sf lackey/spokesperson for adams... continue ad nauseum... I'll bow out. I couldn't help but point out the glaring inconsistency here though.
Tell you what - just before you bow out, why don't you find where I have said a word, either way, on this board about Gerry Adams and Jean McConville. There's ten years of history and a simple search function there for you.
Besides, the Adams discussion is out there in the wider media and wasn't being publicized here based on some anonymous comment on a You Tube video.
So spare me the hypocrisy bullshit.
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Quote from: Ulick on May 16, 2016, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Jean McConville
1970s...border area... T'is ironic all right.
More similarities than that... whiff of political wrongdoing without proof. The only thing missing is the faux outrage. How many people on this board have come out with potentially libellous comments about Gerry Adams. It happens on a weekly basis. No uproar from you there. Anyway, before i get accused of being a shinnerbot/sf lackey/spokesperson for adams... continue ad nauseum... I'll bow out. I couldn't help but point out the glaring inconsistency here though.
Tell you what - just before you bow out, why don't you find where I have said a word, either way, on this board about Gerry Adams and Jean McConville. There's ten years of history and a simple search function there for you.
Besides, the Adams discussion is out there in the wider media and wasn't being publicized here based on some anonymous comment on a You Tube video.
So spare me the hypocrisy bullshit.
You said it J70. For years here Adams (and others) have been libelled constantly and you've yet to utter a word about it. But now all of a sudden it's a huge issue.
Thanks for so succinctly making my point. Or maybe you want to use the ten years of history and the search function to prove me wrong.
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Quote from: J70 on May 16, 2016, 02:53:50 PM
Quote from: Ulick on May 16, 2016, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Jean McConville
1970s...border area... T'is ironic all right.
More similarities than that... whiff of political wrongdoing without proof. The only thing missing is the faux outrage. How many people on this board have come out with potentially libellous comments about Gerry Adams. It happens on a weekly basis. No uproar from you there. Anyway, before i get accused of being a shinnerbot/sf lackey/spokesperson for adams... continue ad nauseum... I'll bow out. I couldn't help but point out the glaring inconsistency here though.
Tell you what - just before you bow out, why don't you find where I have said a word, either way, on this board about Gerry Adams and Jean McConville. There's ten years of history and a simple search function there for you.
Besides, the Adams discussion is out there in the wider media and wasn't being publicized here based on some anonymous comment on a You Tube video.
So spare me the hypocrisy bullshit.
You said it J70. For years here Adams (and others) have been libelled constantly and you've yet to utter a word about it. But now all of a sudden it's a huge issue.
Thanks for so succinctly making my point. Or maybe you want to use the ten years of history and the search function to prove me wrong.
Cop yourself on FFS.
Just because I don't comment on northern issues, instead leaving the discussion to those who actually know what they're talking about, does not mean in any way that I can't call foul on reckless commentary on something that actually happened close to where I grew up.
By your standard, no one can comment on anything here unless they've addressed each and every equivalent situation that has ever been discussed on the board.
Had I been someone who did in fact discuss Adams and McConville and who made thinly veiled references to his alleged involvement, you might have some semblance of a point.
As it is though, you're making zero sense.
Quote from: J70 on May 17, 2016, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: Franko on May 17, 2016, 11:34:13 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 17, 2016, 01:40:33 AM
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Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Jean McConville
1970s...border area... T'is ironic all right.
More similarities than that... whiff of political wrongdoing without proof. The only thing missing is the faux outrage. How many people on this board have come out with potentially libellous comments about Gerry Adams. It happens on a weekly basis. No uproar from you there. Anyway, before i get accused of being a shinnerbot/sf lackey/spokesperson for adams... continue ad nauseum... I'll bow out. I couldn't help but point out the glaring inconsistency here though.
Tell you what - just before you bow out, why don't you find where I have said a word, either way, on this board about Gerry Adams and Jean McConville. There's ten years of history and a simple search function there for you.
Besides, the Adams discussion is out there in the wider media and wasn't being publicized here based on some anonymous comment on a You Tube video.
So spare me the hypocrisy bullshit.
You said it J70. For years here Adams (and others) have been libelled constantly and you've yet to utter a word about it. But now all of a sudden it's a huge issue.
Thanks for so succinctly making my point. Or maybe you want to use the ten years of history and the search function to prove me wrong.
Cop yourself on FFS.
Just because I don't comment on northern issues, instead leaving the discussion to those who actually know what they're talking about, does not mean in any way that I can't call foul on reckless commentary on something that actually happened close to where I grew up.
By your standard, no one can comment on anything here unless they've addressed each and every equivalent situation that has ever been discussed on the board.
Had I been someone who did in fact discuss Adams and McConville and who made thinly veiled references to his alleged involvement, you might have some semblance of a point.
As it is though, you're making zero sense.
Ah I see. So at least you admit that it's an equivalent situation. Owenmoresider, take note. And your post above made "thinly veiled references" about the McConville case. I didn't even have to use the search function to find it.
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Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Jean McConville
1970s...border area... T'is ironic all right.
More similarities than that... whiff of political wrongdoing without proof. The only thing missing is the faux outrage. How many people on this board have come out with potentially libellous comments about Gerry Adams. It happens on a weekly basis. No uproar from you there. Anyway, before i get accused of being a shinnerbot/sf lackey/spokesperson for adams... continue ad nauseum... I'll bow out. I couldn't help but point out the glaring inconsistency here though.
Tell you what - just before you bow out, why don't you find where I have said a word, either way, on this board about Gerry Adams and Jean McConville. There's ten years of history and a simple search function there for you.
Besides, the Adams discussion is out there in the wider media and wasn't being publicized here based on some anonymous comment on a You Tube video.
So spare me the hypocrisy bullshit.
You said it J70. For years here Adams (and others) have been libelled constantly and you've yet to utter a word about it. But now all of a sudden it's a huge issue.
Thanks for so succinctly making my point. Or maybe you want to use the ten years of history and the search function to prove me wrong.
Cop yourself on FFS.
Just because I don't comment on northern issues, instead leaving the discussion to those who actually know what they're talking about, does not mean in any way that I can't call foul on reckless commentary on something that actually happened close to where I grew up.
By your standard, no one can comment on anything here unless they've addressed each and every equivalent situation that has ever been discussed on the board.
Had I been someone who did in fact discuss Adams and McConville and who made thinly veiled references to his alleged involvement, you might have some semblance of a point.
As it is though, you're making zero sense.
Ah I see. So at least you admit that it's an equivalent situation. Owenmoresider, take note. And your post above made "thinly veiled references" about the McConville case. I didn't even have to use the search function to find it.
Grow up.
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Quote from: DuffleKing on May 16, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Jean McConville
1970s...border area... T'is ironic all right.
More similarities than that... whiff of political wrongdoing without proof. The only thing missing is the faux outrage. How many people on this board have come out with potentially libellous comments about Gerry Adams. It happens on a weekly basis. No uproar from you there. Anyway, before i get accused of being a shinnerbot/sf lackey/spokesperson for adams... continue ad nauseum... I'll bow out. I couldn't help but point out the glaring inconsistency here though.
Tell you what - just before you bow out, why don't you find where I have said a word, either way, on this board about Gerry Adams and Jean McConville. There's ten years of history and a simple search function there for you.
Besides, the Adams discussion is out there in the wider media and wasn't being publicized here based on some anonymous comment on a You Tube video.
So spare me the hypocrisy bullshit.
You said it J70. For years here Adams (and others) have been libelled constantly and you've yet to utter a word about it. But now all of a sudden it's a huge issue.
Thanks for so succinctly making my point. Or maybe you want to use the ten years of history and the search function to prove me wrong.
Cop yourself on FFS.
Just because I don't comment on northern issues, instead leaving the discussion to those who actually know what they're talking about, does not mean in any way that I can't call foul on reckless commentary on something that actually happened close to where I grew up.
By your standard, no one can comment on anything here unless they've addressed each and every equivalent situation that has ever been discussed on the board.
Had I been someone who did in fact discuss Adams and McConville and who made thinly veiled references to his alleged involvement, you might have some semblance of a point.
As it is though, you're making zero sense.
Ah I see. So at least you admit that it's an equivalent situation. Owenmoresider, take note. And your post above made "thinly veiled references" about the McConville case. I didn't even have to use the search function to find it.
Shove it up your hole, I never made any mention of the McConville matter. indeed I notice for all the talk about that case no justice has been served there either.
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I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Jean McConville
1970s...border area... T'is ironic all right.
More similarities than that... whiff of political wrongdoing without proof. The only thing missing is the faux outrage. How many people on this board have come out with potentially libellous comments about Gerry Adams. It happens on a weekly basis. No uproar from you there. Anyway, before i get accused of being a shinnerbot/sf lackey/spokesperson for adams... continue ad nauseum... I'll bow out. I couldn't help but point out the glaring inconsistency here though.
Tell you what - just before you bow out, why don't you find where I have said a word, either way, on this board about Gerry Adams and Jean McConville. There's ten years of history and a simple search function there for you.
Besides, the Adams discussion is out there in the wider media and wasn't being publicized here based on some anonymous comment on a You Tube video.
So spare me the hypocrisy bullshit.
You said it J70. For years here Adams (and others) have been libelled constantly and you've yet to utter a word about it. But now all of a sudden it's a huge issue.
Thanks for so succinctly making my point. Or maybe you want to use the ten years of history and the search function to prove me wrong.
Cop yourself on FFS.
Just because I don't comment on northern issues, instead leaving the discussion to those who actually know what they're talking about, does not mean in any way that I can't call foul on reckless commentary on something that actually happened close to where I grew up.
By your standard, no one can comment on anything here unless they've addressed each and every equivalent situation that has ever been discussed on the board.
Had I been someone who did in fact discuss Adams and McConville and who made thinly veiled references to his alleged involvement, you might have some semblance of a point.
As it is though, you're making zero sense.
Ah I see. So at least you admit that it's an equivalent situation. Owenmoresider, take note. And your post above made "thinly veiled references" about the McConville case. I didn't even have to use the search function to find it.
Shove it up your hole, I never made any mention of the McConville matter. indeed I notice for all the talk about that case no justice has been served there either.
Are you having a laugh?? That was exactly my point. I managed to make it without the insults though. A couple of very mature responses from ye lads when your hypocrisy was highlighted.
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I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Jean McConville
1970s...border area... T'is ironic all right.
More similarities than that... whiff of political wrongdoing without proof. The only thing missing is the faux outrage. How many people on this board have come out with potentially libellous comments about Gerry Adams. It happens on a weekly basis. No uproar from you there. Anyway, before i get accused of being a shinnerbot/sf lackey/spokesperson for adams... continue ad nauseum... I'll bow out. I couldn't help but point out the glaring inconsistency here though.
Tell you what - just before you bow out, why don't you find where I have said a word, either way, on this board about Gerry Adams and Jean McConville. There's ten years of history and a simple search function there for you.
Besides, the Adams discussion is out there in the wider media and wasn't being publicized here based on some anonymous comment on a You Tube video.
So spare me the hypocrisy bullshit.
You said it J70. For years here Adams (and others) have been libelled constantly and you've yet to utter a word about it. But now all of a sudden it's a huge issue.
Thanks for so succinctly making my point. Or maybe you want to use the ten years of history and the search function to prove me wrong.
Cop yourself on FFS.
Just because I don't comment on northern issues, instead leaving the discussion to those who actually know what they're talking about, does not mean in any way that I can't call foul on reckless commentary on something that actually happened close to where I grew up.
By your standard, no one can comment on anything here unless they've addressed each and every equivalent situation that has ever been discussed on the board.
Had I been someone who did in fact discuss Adams and McConville and who made thinly veiled references to his alleged involvement, you might have some semblance of a point.
As it is though, you're making zero sense.
Ah I see. So at least you admit that it's an equivalent situation. Owenmoresider, take note. And your post above made "thinly veiled references" about the McConville case. I didn't even have to use the search function to find it.
Shove it up your hole, I never made any mention of the McConville matter. indeed I notice for all the talk about that case no justice has been served there either.
Are you having a laugh?? That was exactly my point. I managed to make it without the insults though. A couple of very mature responses from ye lads when your hypocrisy was highlighted.
You're either a troll or you are not very bright.
For now I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume its the latter:
The subject of this thread is that a video has been produced alleging that a politician interfered in the investigation into the disappearance of Mary Boyle back in the 70s. Ulick posted some information, which he later deleted, which clearly identified a person who he alleged is the politician in question. I questioned whether the moderators on the board should allow that to stand. A google search for the politician along with Mary Boyle brings up NO results except for the you tube video in which the person's name was listed in the comments section by an anonymous poster (and has now been deleted). So its not like this issue is out there in the media.
On the other hand, the questions about Adams and Jean McConville HAVE been out there in the media and in public for years. Her family have threatened civil proceedings after the authorities declined to pursue a prosecution.
So on one hand, you have an (at this time) unsupported, anonymous allegation being made on an obscure internet discussion board, supported only by an anonymous, since deleted, you tube comment. On the other you have a high profile story which has been in the public domain for years and has been investigated by the authorities and pursued publicly by the family of the victim.
One is fair game for discussion as the details and names are widely known by the general public and is a prominent news story. The other is a scurrilous accusation with no supporting evidence whatsoever being introduced to people via a GAA discussion board channeling a single, anonymous, since-deleted you tube comment.
My four year old son could probably understand the difference.
But sure let's go your way - given that not everyone here on the board has taken a stand in Gerry Adams defense, let's open the floodgates and allow all kinds of wild and baseless accusations to be thrown up here on the board against everyone and anyone.
You can then try to silence dissent by playing the Gerry Adams card and screaming "hypocrisy"!
I see in the press that the full documentary for the below trailer is being aired on YouTube tonight at 9.20pm. The writer of the doc says they've chosen YouTube as opposed to a TV channel so as to maintain editorial control of what is being presented ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtN19gKGY1Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtN19gKGY1Y)
Full documentary here:
http://youtu.be/0vGORoCbpXw (http://youtu.be/0vGORoCbpXw)
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I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Jean McConville
1970s...border area... T'is ironic all right.
More similarities than that... whiff of political wrongdoing without proof. The only thing missing is the faux outrage. How many people on this board have come out with potentially libellous comments about Gerry Adams. It happens on a weekly basis. No uproar from you there. Anyway, before i get accused of being a shinnerbot/sf lackey/spokesperson for adams... continue ad nauseum... I'll bow out. I couldn't help but point out the glaring inconsistency here though.
Tell you what - just before you bow out, why don't you find where I have said a word, either way, on this board about Gerry Adams and Jean McConville. There's ten years of history and a simple search function there for you.
Besides, the Adams discussion is out there in the wider media and wasn't being publicized here based on some anonymous comment on a You Tube video.
So spare me the hypocrisy bullshit.
You said it J70. For years here Adams (and others) have been libelled constantly and you've yet to utter a word about it. But now all of a sudden it's a huge issue.
Thanks for so succinctly making my point. Or maybe you want to use the ten years of history and the search function to prove me wrong.
Cop yourself on FFS.
Just because I don't comment on northern issues, instead leaving the discussion to those who actually know what they're talking about, does not mean in any way that I can't call foul on reckless commentary on something that actually happened close to where I grew up.
By your standard, no one can comment on anything here unless they've addressed each and every equivalent situation that has ever been discussed on the board.
Had I been someone who did in fact discuss Adams and McConville and who made thinly veiled references to his alleged involvement, you might have some semblance of a point.
As it is though, you're making zero sense.
Ah I see. So at least you admit that it's an equivalent situation. Owenmoresider, take note. And your post above made "thinly veiled references" about the McConville case. I didn't even have to use the search function to find it.
Shove it up your hole, I never made any mention of the McConville matter. indeed I notice for all the talk about that case no justice has been served there either.
Are you having a laugh?? That was exactly my point. I managed to make it without the insults though. A couple of very mature responses from ye lads when your hypocrisy was highlighted.
You're either a troll or you are not very bright.
For now I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume its the latter:
The subject of this thread is that a video has been produced alleging that a politician interfered in the investigation into the disappearance of Mary Boyle back in the 70s. Ulick posted some information, which he later deleted, which clearly identified a person who he alleged is the politician in question. I questioned whether the moderators on the board should allow that to stand. A google search for the politician along with Mary Boyle brings up NO results except for the you tube video in which the person's name was listed in the comments section by an anonymous poster (and has now been deleted). So its not like this issue is out there in the media.
On the other hand, the questions about Adams and Jean McConville HAVE been out there in the media and in public for years. Her family have threatened civil proceedings after the authorities declined to pursue a prosecution.
So on one hand, you have an (at this time) unsupported, anonymous allegation being made on an obscure internet discussion board, supported only by an anonymous, since deleted, you tube comment. On the other you have a high profile story which has been in the public domain for years and has been investigated by the authorities and pursued publicly by the family of the victim.
One is fair game for discussion as the details and names are widely known by the general public and is a prominent news story. The other is a scurrilous accusation with no supporting evidence whatsoever being introduced to people via a GAA discussion board channeling a single, anonymous, since-deleted you tube comment.
My four year old son could probably understand the difference.
But sure let's go your way - given that not everyone here on the board has taken a stand in Gerry Adams defense, let's open the floodgates and allow all kinds of wild and baseless accusations to be thrown up here on the board against everyone and anyone.
You can then try to silence dissent by playing the Gerry Adams card and screaming "hypocrisy"!
So hush hush about a political figure from an establishment party obstructing an investigation into a potential child killer?
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I've heard it said the brother of...
... ... ... and a long time Fianna Fáil county councilor. The identity of the man is key as it's alleged he used his political position and authority to block the investigation. The name has been in the public domain for a long time and a senior Fianna Fáil official confirmed he is still a member of the Party.
Dry your eyes J70.
At least you've had the decency sense to delete the detail identifying the man's family name.
No surprise that Ulick the shinner shrill is the one to throw out the smear, seeing their trolls using her image on profile pics on twitter as though any of them give the slightest genuine s*** about her or her family is sickening.
Jean McConville
1970s...border area... T'is ironic all right.
More similarities than that... whiff of political wrongdoing without proof. The only thing missing is the faux outrage. How many people on this board have come out with potentially libellous comments about Gerry Adams. It happens on a weekly basis. No uproar from you there. Anyway, before i get accused of being a shinnerbot/sf lackey/spokesperson for adams... continue ad nauseum... I'll bow out. I couldn't help but point out the glaring inconsistency here though.
Tell you what - just before you bow out, why don't you find where I have said a word, either way, on this board about Gerry Adams and Jean McConville. There's ten years of history and a simple search function there for you.
Besides, the Adams discussion is out there in the wider media and wasn't being publicized here based on some anonymous comment on a You Tube video.
So spare me the hypocrisy bullshit.
You said it J70. For years here Adams (and others) have been libelled constantly and you've yet to utter a word about it. But now all of a sudden it's a huge issue.
Thanks for so succinctly making my point. Or maybe you want to use the ten years of history and the search function to prove me wrong.
Cop yourself on FFS.
Just because I don't comment on northern issues, instead leaving the discussion to those who actually know what they're talking about, does not mean in any way that I can't call foul on reckless commentary on something that actually happened close to where I grew up.
By your standard, no one can comment on anything here unless they've addressed each and every equivalent situation that has ever been discussed on the board.
Had I been someone who did in fact discuss Adams and McConville and who made thinly veiled references to his alleged involvement, you might have some semblance of a point.
As it is though, you're making zero sense.
Ah I see. So at least you admit that it's an equivalent situation. Owenmoresider, take note. And your post above made "thinly veiled references" about the McConville case. I didn't even have to use the search function to find it.
Shove it up your hole, I never made any mention of the McConville matter. indeed I notice for all the talk about that case no justice has been served there either.
Are you having a laugh?? That was exactly my point. I managed to make it without the insults though. A couple of very mature responses from ye lads when your hypocrisy was highlighted.
You're either a troll or you are not very bright.
For now I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume its the latter:
The subject of this thread is that a video has been produced alleging that a politician interfered in the investigation into the disappearance of Mary Boyle back in the 70s. Ulick posted some information, which he later deleted, which clearly identified a person who he alleged is the politician in question. I questioned whether the moderators on the board should allow that to stand. A google search for the politician along with Mary Boyle brings up NO results except for the you tube video in which the person's name was listed in the comments section by an anonymous poster (and has now been deleted). So its not like this issue is out there in the media.
On the other hand, the questions about Adams and Jean McConville HAVE been out there in the media and in public for years. Her family have threatened civil proceedings after the authorities declined to pursue a prosecution.
So on one hand, you have an (at this time) unsupported, anonymous allegation being made on an obscure internet discussion board, supported only by an anonymous, since deleted, you tube comment. On the other you have a high profile story which has been in the public domain for years and has been investigated by the authorities and pursued publicly by the family of the victim.
One is fair game for discussion as the details and names are widely known by the general public and is a prominent news story. The other is a scurrilous accusation with no supporting evidence whatsoever being introduced to people via a GAA discussion board channeling a single, anonymous, since-deleted you tube comment.
My four year old son could probably understand the difference.
But sure let's go your way - given that not everyone here on the board has taken a stand in Gerry Adams defense, let's open the floodgates and allow all kinds of wild and baseless accusations to be thrown up here on the board against everyone and anyone.
You can then try to silence dissent by playing the Gerry Adams card and screaming "hypocrisy"!
So hush hush about a political figure from an establishment party obstructing an investigation into a potential child killer?
??
If there is such common knowledge about who committed this crime why has no one named the individual?
QuoteIf there is such common knowledge about who committed this crime why has no one named the individual?
They have named them ... to the guards.
To name them in the media could be seen as making a fair trial pretty unlikely.
Quote from: NAG1 on July 05, 2016, 02:13:08 PM
If there is such common knowledge about who committed this crime why has no one named the individual?
Legal issues.
You don't have to do much digging to find the name of the Fianna Fail person who tried to interfere in an alleged child killer and paedophile but the mainstream media are not interested in tackling the heinous acts of establishment parties.
Much like how Noonan's negligence and disinterest in tackling child abuse was given scant lip service and the extremely lenient punishment given out to a FG TD's brother for attempted rape of a minor also didn't make much headway in the media reporting.
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Quote from: NAG1 on July 05, 2016, 02:13:08 PM
If there is such common knowledge about who committed this crime why has no one named the individual?
Legal issues.
You don't have to do much digging to find the name of the Fianna Fail person who tried to interfere in an alleged child killer and paedophile but the mainstream media are not interested in tackling the heinous acts of establishment parties.
Much like how Noonan's negligence and disinterest in tackling child abuse was given scant lip service and the extremely lenient punishment given out to a FG TD's brother for attempted rape of a minor also didn't make much headway in the media reporting.
But nothing to certain Shinner relatives and the way they might look at ya!
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Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 06, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 05, 2016, 02:13:08 PM
If there is such common knowledge about who committed this crime why has no one named the individual?
Legal issues.
You don't have to do much digging to find the name of the Fianna Fail person who tried to interfere in an alleged child killer and paedophile but the mainstream media are not interested in tackling the heinous acts of establishment parties.
Much like how Noonan's negligence and disinterest in tackling child abuse was given scant lip service and the extremely lenient punishment given out to a FG TD's brother for attempted rape of a minor also didn't make much headway in the media reporting.
But nothing to certain Shinner relatives and the way they might look at ya!
I think it's amazing the way establishment party politicians have their dirt so blatantly covered up and spun by the media.
I see a random tweet tonight from Gemma O'Doherty, the journalist.
Is it worth a watch? The trailer gave me the feeling that it was gonna be heavy on suggestion and light on substance.
Heavy on suggestion, light on hard evidence other than people's opinion ... gives the feeling that those speaking know more than is being said in the doc, worth a watch. The mainstream media silence is deafening.
The tweet from Gemma ODoherty
Ann Doherty has called for the arrest of her mother Ann Boyle for withholding information about the murder of her daughter #MaryBoyle
Thats crazy. Is it a case of the mammy knowing the craic and not wanting to embarrass the family name? Can't think of another reason. Is there more to it, a paedophile ring as some suspect? Watched the doc not knowing much about the case, worthwhile unless you know the story well as it doesn't really add to what's already out there. The top guard at the time, who has since passed away had a few skeletons in the closet I'd say. Surely to buck the media should be all over this story?
QuoteIs it a case of the mammy knowing the craic and not wanting to embarrass the family name? Can't think of another reason.
That was my take on it as well, weird is an understatement. You'd have to ask why a mother is not doing all in her power to find the remains of her 6 year old daughter, and also see justice done.
Also, it looks like the politician's name, who allegedly intervened in the Gardai investigation, is now widespread on Twitter this evening.
Pat the Cope has had to come out today and deny that he was the politician who leaned on the Gardai. Apparently it was doing the rounds on social media.
http://www.highlandradio.com/2016/07/07/pat-the-cope-gallagher-says-he-isnt-the-politician-alleged-to-have-interfered-in-mary-boyle-case/ (http://www.highlandradio.com/2016/07/07/pat-the-cope-gallagher-says-he-isnt-the-politician-alleged-to-have-interfered-in-mary-boyle-case/)
Just a month or two ago, we had eejits on this thread accusing a different Fianna Fail politician.
Isn't internet speculation and mob rule a wonderful thing?!
QuotePat the Cope has had to come out today and deny that he was the politician who leaned on the Gardai. Apparently it was doing the rounds on social media.
http://www.highlandradio.com/2016/07/07/pat-the-cope-gallagher-says-he-isnt-the-politician-alleged-to-have-interfered-in-mary-boyle-case/
Just a month or two ago, we had eejits on this thread accusing a different Fianna Fail politician.
Isn't internet speculation and mob rule a wonderful thing?!
A quick Wiki search will show that Pat the Cope wasn't even in politics in 1977. The politician whose name is doing the rounds, and who's photo has been tweeted in an 'unrelated' tweet in the last day by the same investigative journalist who made the documentary, was in politics from the 60's ... not that this means anything of course.
Surely Margo's time would be better spent garnering support for an Inquiry rather than running about in a JCB?
Just watched documentary there, quite eerie stuff. God you'd wonder what similar type tales are being kept secret across Ireland from the past. The lack of political will to investigate is scary, it's like they are all hoping for the secret to go to the grave
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Surely Margo's time would be better spent garnering support for an Inquiry rather than running about in a JCB?
Lol-I though I was seeing things when Margo was driving the digger
Case to be revisited by Gardai cold investigations unit. A disgrace that it takes a documentary to make this happen!
I still never got watching the documentary and I read this morning its been removed from YouTube over a defamation claim.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/youtube-documentary-on-mary-boyle-case-removed-1.2719644
Just watched the documentary there. Clear as day what happened and covered up. Incredible the mother is protecting a family member
Where can it be seen?
These things have been happening sadly since time immemorial.Famous case in the North dating back to the 50s,when a judge's daughter was found murdered in the grounds of her family home.A young Scottish soldier,friendly with her brother,took the rap and was placed in a mental institution,but it is commonly believed that she was murdered by her own mother,whom the family rallied round to protect.
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 23, 2016, 12:06:45 AM
Where can it be seen?
Still available on YouTube in the north
Its great that rumour and "no smoke without fire" has replaced evidence as a means of convicting people.
Nearly as good as "known to the Gardai" and "we know who did it but just cant get the evidence"
We have the same with Philip Cairns Fr Molloy etc
Quote from: Avondhu star on July 23, 2016, 09:13:46 AM
Its great that rumour and "no smoke without fire" has replaced evidence as a means of convicting people.
Nearly as good as "known to the Gardai" and "we know who did it but just cant get the evidence"
We have the same with Philip Cairns Fr Molloy etc
Michael Clifford touched on this in the Examiner yesterday http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/michael-clifford/michael-clifford-everybody-wants-justice-for-mary-boyle-but-that-is-nowhere-near-as-simple-as-is-portrayed-in-a-fevered-social-media-campaign-411902.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/michael-clifford/michael-clifford-everybody-wants-justice-for-mary-boyle-but-that-is-nowhere-near-as-simple-as-is-portrayed-in-a-fevered-social-media-campaign-411902.html)
Noted too the prominence of supporters of a certain party pushing this case extensively on social media, their obvious concern being for the family and no desire to smear opponents, of course not.
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Quote from: Avondhu star on July 23, 2016, 09:13:46 AM
Its great that rumour and "no smoke without fire" has replaced evidence as a means of convicting people.
Nearly as good as "known to the Gardai" and "we know who did it but just cant get the evidence"
We have the same with Philip Cairns Fr Molloy etc
Michael Clifford touched on this in the Examiner yesterday http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/michael-clifford/michael-clifford-everybody-wants-justice-for-mary-boyle-but-that-is-nowhere-near-as-simple-as-is-portrayed-in-a-fevered-social-media-campaign-411902.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/michael-clifford/michael-clifford-everybody-wants-justice-for-mary-boyle-but-that-is-nowhere-near-as-simple-as-is-portrayed-in-a-fevered-social-media-campaign-411902.html)
Noted too the prominence of supporters of a certain party pushing this case extensively on social media, their obvious concern being for the family and no desire to smear opponents, of course not.
Now where have we seen that before?
I just watched it there on youtube so it's still available. It seems astonishing that a call from a politician would be enough to stop an investigation into the main suspect for the disappearance and probable murder of a child. It happened in such a rural and isolated area that the chances of an outsider involved like child killer Robert Black who was being mentioned by some journalists driving into the area were almost zero and this was ruled out by the retired Gardaí on the documentary. They looked haunted by the failure to solve the case especially as the main suspect seemed about to crack and confess at the time.
Quote from: Franko on July 25, 2016, 10:27:41 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 24, 2016, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on July 23, 2016, 09:13:46 AM
Its great that rumour and "no smoke without fire" has replaced evidence as a means of convicting people.
Nearly as good as "known to the Gardai" and "we know who did it but just cant get the evidence"
We have the same with Philip Cairns Fr Molloy etc
Michael Clifford touched on this in the Examiner yesterday http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/michael-clifford/michael-clifford-everybody-wants-justice-for-mary-boyle-but-that-is-nowhere-near-as-simple-as-is-portrayed-in-a-fevered-social-media-campaign-411902.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/michael-clifford/michael-clifford-everybody-wants-justice-for-mary-boyle-but-that-is-nowhere-near-as-simple-as-is-portrayed-in-a-fevered-social-media-campaign-411902.html)
Noted too the prominence of supporters of a certain party pushing this case extensively on social media, their obvious concern being for the family and no desire to smear opponents, of course not.
Now where have we seen that before?
Owenmoresider strikes me as the type of guy who marches up and down his hall in a blueshirt and has Franco portraits all over his house.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on December 10, 2016, 06:31:18 PM
Quote from: Franko on July 25, 2016, 10:27:41 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 24, 2016, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on July 23, 2016, 09:13:46 AM
Its great that rumour and "no smoke without fire" has replaced evidence as a means of convicting people.
Nearly as good as "known to the Gardai" and "we know who did it but just cant get the evidence"
We have the same with Philip Cairns Fr Molloy etc
Michael Clifford touched on this in the Examiner yesterday http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/michael-clifford/michael-clifford-everybody-wants-justice-for-mary-boyle-but-that-is-nowhere-near-as-simple-as-is-portrayed-in-a-fevered-social-media-campaign-411902.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/michael-clifford/michael-clifford-everybody-wants-justice-for-mary-boyle-but-that-is-nowhere-near-as-simple-as-is-portrayed-in-a-fevered-social-media-campaign-411902.html)
Noted too the prominence of supporters of a certain party pushing this case extensively on social media, their obvious concern being for the family and no desire to smear opponents, of course not.
Now where have we seen that before?
Owenmoresider strikes me as the type of guy who marches up and down his hall in a blueshirt and has Franco portraits all over his house.
Hardly, I couldn't possibly be as sad, bitter and hate-filled as yourself.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on December 11, 2016, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on December 10, 2016, 06:31:18 PM
Quote from: Franko on July 25, 2016, 10:27:41 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 24, 2016, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on July 23, 2016, 09:13:46 AM
Its great that rumour and "no smoke without fire" has replaced evidence as a means of convicting people.
Nearly as good as "known to the Gardai" and "we know who did it but just cant get the evidence"
We have the same with Philip Cairns Fr Molloy etc
Michael Clifford touched on this in the Examiner yesterday http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/michael-clifford/michael-clifford-everybody-wants-justice-for-mary-boyle-but-that-is-nowhere-near-as-simple-as-is-portrayed-in-a-fevered-social-media-campaign-411902.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/michael-clifford/michael-clifford-everybody-wants-justice-for-mary-boyle-but-that-is-nowhere-near-as-simple-as-is-portrayed-in-a-fevered-social-media-campaign-411902.html)
Noted too the prominence of supporters of a certain party pushing this case extensively on social media, their obvious concern being for the family and no desire to smear opponents, of course not.
Now where have we seen that before?
Owenmoresider strikes me as the type of guy who marches up and down his hall in a blueshirt and has Franco portraits all over his house.
Hardly, I couldn't possibly be as sad, bitter and hate-filled as yourself.
There's a lot of irony in your statement there.