Football - Championship Panel of 18:
Ciaran Branagan (An Dún)
Barry Cassidy (Doire)
David Coldrick (An Mhí)
Maurice Deegan (Laois)
Marty Duffy (Sligeach)
David Gough (An Mhí)
Rory Hickey (An Clár)
Padraig Hughes (Ard Mhacha)
Sean Hurson (Tír Eoghan)
Fergal Kelly (An Longfort)
Eddie Kinsella (Laois)
Conor Lane (Corcaigh)
Joe McQuillan (An Cabhán)
Noel Mooney (An Cabhán)
Paddy Neilan (Ros Comáin)
Anthony Nolan (Cill Mhantáin)
Derek O'Mahony (Tiobraid Árann)
Padraig O'Sullivan (Ciarraí)
Football - Championship Linesman Panel of 8:
James Bermingham (Corcaigh)
Niall Cullen (Fear Manach)
Liam Devenney (Maigh Eo)
Jerome Henry (Maigh Eo)
John Hickey (Ceatharlach)
Shaun McLaughlin (Dún na nGall)
Martin McNally (Muineachán)
Cormac Reilly (An Mhí)
Good to see Cormac Reilly finally demoted, John Hickey is the best referee I've seen out of the present bunch and unlucky not to make the referees panel. Noel Mooney the only new addition, he believes in non contact football and loves to be centre of attention. Blows his whistle in a shrill manner too.
When will they get rid of that guy duffy. Ruins every game he refs.
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2016, 09:14:22 PM
When will they get rid of that guy duffy. Ruins every game he refs.
As does Eddie Kinsella. Good to see a Tyrone referee on the list. Sean Hurson is the first since the great Martin Sludden I think.
Barry Cassidy isn't hectic either.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on April 27, 2016, 09:11:46 PM
Football - Championship Panel of 18:
Ciaran Branagan (An Dún)
Barry Cassidy (Doire)
David Coldrick (An Mhí)
Maurice Deegan (Laois)
Marty Duffy (Sligeach)
David Gough (An Mhí)
Rory Hickey (An Clár)
Padraig Hughes (Ard Mhacha)
Sean Hurson (Tír Eoghan)
Fergal Kelly (An Longfort)
Eddie Kinsella (Laois)
Conor Lane (Corcaigh)
Joe McQuillan (An Cabhán)
Noel Mooney (An Cabhán)
Paddy Neilan (Ros Comáin)
Anthony Nolan (Cill Mhantáin)
Derek O'Mahony (Tiobraid Árann)
Padraig O'Sullivan (Ciarraí)
Football - Championship Linesman Panel of 8:
James Bermingham (Corcaigh)
Niall Cullen (Fear Manach)
Liam Devenney (Maigh Eo)
Jerome Henry (Maigh Eo)
John Hickey (Ceatharlach)
Shaun McLaughlin (Dún na nGall)
Martin McNally (Muineachán)
Cormac Reilly (An Mhí)
Good to see Cormac Reilly finally demoted, John Hickey is the best referee I've seen out of the present bunch and unlucky not to make the referees panel. Noel Mooney the only new addition, he believes in non contact football and loves to be centre of attention. Blows his whistle in a shrill manner too.
Only saw John Hickey referee one game and he was very good that day. IMHO Reilly is a better referee that quite a few on that list esp. Duffy, Brannigan and Cassidy. Aside from his timekeeping (😜) I think Sean Hurson is not a bad referee even if he is from Tyrone!
GAA needs to start putting money into getting Dublin referees........
In 10 years time then every ref will be a Dub and there'll be no baytin the hoors with every game in Croke Park as well as every player a semi-pre (ahem)
When Kelly, Duffy, Kinsella, Lane, Coldrick and Deegan are still there it tells you where the standard is and how much of top level reffing is about glad-handing and who you know.
Gough the best by a good bit for me. Our own Paddy Neilan is one of the few decent refs too.
Quote from: Throw ball on April 27, 2016, 10:11:46 PM
Only saw John Hickey referee one game and he was very good that day. IMHO Reilly is a better referee that quite a few on that list esp. Duffy, Brannigan and Cassidy. Aside from his timekeeping (😜) I think Sean Hurson is not a bad referee even if he is from Tyrone!
Hickey is good, no complaints with him anytime Kildare have had him. Cormac Reilly is downright evil when it comes to refereeing though. His performance in the Kildare Wexford game in 2009 was the most biased I've seen since Paddy Russell, although Kildare won handy the free count was something like 30-7 in favour of Wexford.
The original Mr Gough was the last referee from north of the border to get an AI senior final back in 1983. If each county had an equal chance of representation, there should have been another half a dozen since then. As officials from the Wee Six never get a look-in for the hurling at all, they are entitled to feel pretty disgruntled.
Quote from: Mourne Rover on April 27, 2016, 11:11:59 PM
The original Mr Gough was the last referee from north of the border to get an AI senior final back in 1983. If each county had an equal chance of representation, there should have been another half a dozen since then. As officials from the Wee Six never get a look-in for the hurling at all, they are entitled to feel pretty disgruntled.
When aren't people from the six disgruntled?
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on April 27, 2016, 09:11:46 PM
Football - Championship Panel of 18:
Ciaran Branagan (An Dún)
Barry Cassidy (Doire)
David Coldrick (An Mhí)
Maurice Deegan (Laois)
Marty Duffy (Sligeach)
David Gough (An Mhí)
Rory Hickey (An Clár)
Padraig Hughes (Ard Mhacha)
Sean Hurson (Tír Eoghan)
Fergal Kelly (An Longfort)
Eddie Kinsella (Laois)
Conor Lane (Corcaigh)
Joe McQuillan (An Cabhán)
Noel Mooney (An Cabhán)
Paddy Neilan (Ros Comáin)
Anthony Nolan (Cill Mhantáin)
Derek O'Mahony (Tiobraid Árann)
Padraig O'Sullivan (Ciarraí)
Football - Championship Linesman Panel of 8:
James Bermingham (Corcaigh)
Niall Cullen (Fear Manach)
Liam Devenney (Maigh Eo)
Jerome Henry (Maigh Eo)
John Hickey (Ceatharlach)
Shaun McLaughlin (Dún na nGall)
Martin McNally (Muineachán)
Cormac Reilly (An Mhí)
Good to see Cormac Reilly finally demoted, John Hickey is the best referee I've seen out of the present bunch and unlucky not to make the referees panel. Noel Mooney the only new addition, he believes in non contact football and loves to be centre of attention. Blows his whistle in a shrill manner too.
Reilly in the last few years has done Kildare, Mayo (rode us up righty) and the Rossies last year!
Hope he is linesman for one Mayo match, on my side.
Syferus, the last 64 AI senior finals in football and hurling have gone by without the involvement of a referee from north of the border. Can you see why some officials may not be thrilled about this ?
After Sluds in 2010 the 6 may never get another one.
That Hurson chap isn't bad though.
Quote from: Mourne Rover on April 27, 2016, 11:42:19 PM
Syferus, the last 64 AI senior finals in football and hurling have gone by without the involvement of a referee from north of the border. Can you see why some officials may not be thrilled about this ?
Paddy Hughes reffed the 2013 Senior Club AI final and nearly made a hole of it. Refs just need to be good. County or province doesn't matter. Sadly good refs are scarce.
Quote from: Syferus on April 27, 2016, 11:56:43 PM
Quote from: Mourne Rover on April 27, 2016, 11:42:19 PM
Syferus, the last 64 AI senior finals in football and hurling have gone by without the involvement of a referee from north of the border. Can you see why some officials may not be thrilled about this ?
Paddy Hughes reffed the 2013 Senior Club AI final and nearly made a hole of it. Refs just need to be good. County or province doesn't matter. Sadly good refs are scarce.
Ask the Cork lads about him after last year. I hope Branigan does well...I rate him...best ref in Down.
Quote from: Syferus on April 27, 2016, 11:56:43 PM
Quote from: Mourne Rover on April 27, 2016, 11:42:19 PM
Syferus, the last 64 AI senior finals in football and hurling have gone by without the involvement of a referee from north of the border. Can you see why some officials may not be thrilled about this ?
Paddy Hughes reffed the 2013 Senior Club AI final and nearly made a hole of it. Refs just need to be good. County or province doesn't matter. Sadly good refs are scarce.
Ideally the GAA would have a system like the Premier League in which Referees are professional. Even making ref's semi-professional would make a huge difference in quality and standard of refereeing.
It's things like this which are sometimes hamstrung by being a (almost) totally voluntary organisation. We "can't" criticise ref's because they're volunteers.
Quote from: Mourne Rover on April 27, 2016, 11:11:59 PM
The original Mr Gough was the last referee from north of the border to get an AI senior final back in 1983. If each county had an equal chance of representation, there should have been another half a dozen since then. As officials from the Wee Six never get a look-in for the hurling at all, they are entitled to feel pretty disgruntled.
I'd love to agree with you and there's been some pretty decent hurling referees in the North recently, I just think they're not exposed to southern hurling enough during their formative years, mainly logistics and possible arrogance from the hurling elite and you've only to look how Barry Kelly was initially frowned upon when refereeing in the Munster championship years ago and him being from Westmeath and all...
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on April 27, 2016, 10:27:40 PM
GAA needs to start putting money into getting Dublin referees........
In 10 years time then every ref will be a Dub and there'll be no baytin the hoors with every game in Croke Park as well as every player a semi-pre (ahem)
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Syferus on April 27, 2016, 10:33:37 PM
When Kelly, Duffy, Kinsella, Lane, Coldrick and Deegan are still there it tells you where the standard is and how much of top level reffing is about glad-handing and who you know.
Gough the best by a good bit for me. Our own Paddy Neilan is one of the few decent refs too.
Gough stood out for me last year too.
To be a linesman you need to tell which team knocked the ball over the sideline and if anyone is boxing off the ball. That it?
Cormac Reilly dropped altogether?!
This is an outrage.
No doubt the Mayo mafia had a hand in it.
Kinsella is loved by the inter county players ...I think he is decent gets a lot of big games for a reason...
Maurice isn't as good as he used to be
Duffy -worst ref in the country at top level by far..
Nolan -Wicklow is poor and always favours the bigger teams-Watch it its incredible.
Hughes-Armagh is very good in my opinion
Kelly of Longford and Gough of Meath are also good ref's
Kinsella is a very poor ref. Same bracket as Duffy and Rielly.
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Quote from: Mourne Rover on April 27, 2016, 11:11:59 PM
The original Mr Gough was the last referee from north of the border to get an AI senior final back in 1983. If each county had an equal chance of representation, there should have been another half a dozen since then. As officials from the Wee Six never get a look-in for the hurling at all, they are entitled to feel pretty disgruntled.
I'd love to agree with you and there's been some pretty decent hurling referees in the North recently, I just think they're not exposed to southern hurling enough during their formative years, mainly logistics and possible arrogance from the hurling elite and you've only to look how Barry Kelly was initially frowned upon when refereeing in the Munster championship years ago and him being from Westmeath and all...
+1 with experience
Lads I keep saying that you need two refs for every county game. One man can't do the job and the linesmen are not the answer. How do you expect one man to keep tabs on 30 people in an area of 160 yards by 90 approx. especially with the pace in the modern game.
If you had two refs, Louth would have won Leinster in 2010 as one of the refs would have been close enough to see what happened.
Hopefully the gaa will cop on soon and get two refs before more games are destroyed by refs
Quote from: sligoman2 on April 28, 2016, 01:31:02 PM
Lads I keep saying that you need two refs for every county game. One man can't do the job and the linesmen are not the answer. How do you expect one man to keep tabs on 30 people in an area of 160 yards by 90 approx. especially with the pace in the modern game.
If you had two refs, Louth would have won Leinster in 2010 as one of the refs would have been close enough to see what happened.
Hopefully the gaa will cop on soon and get two refs before more games are destroyed by refs
Why do you say that?
Quote from: Esmarelda on April 28, 2016, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on April 28, 2016, 01:31:02 PM
Lads I keep saying that you need two refs for every county game. One man can't do the job and the linesmen are not the answer. How do you expect one man to keep tabs on 30 people in an area of 160 yards by 90 approx. especially with the pace in the modern game.
If you had two refs, Louth would have won Leinster in 2010 as one of the refs would have been close enough to see what happened.
Hopefully the gaa will cop on soon and get two refs before more games are destroyed by refs
Why do you say that?
I agree, I have been saying this for some time.
The amount of time that is wasted when the ref has to run back behind the play to issue a warning or Yellow card is daft. I was in Croke Park last Sunday, thought the ref was ok/sensible with the exception of a few missed calls on that whining bollocks Donaghy. But there was at least two occasion where he had to backtrack to follow up on some incidents or other, a lot of time wasted.
In hurling if the Ref had a motorbike, he might, just might be able to stay up with the play.
Quote from: GlenMan on April 27, 2016, 09:42:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2016, 09:14:22 PM
When will they get rid of that guy duffy. Ruins every game he refs.
As does Eddie Kinsella. Good to see a Tyrone referee on the list. Sean Hurson is the first since the great Martin Sludden I think.
And every bit as bad.
Brian Gavin is a decent ref, but no way he passes the fitness test as set out by Croke Park.
Quote from: Mourne Rover on April 27, 2016, 11:42:19 PM
Syferus, the last 64 AI senior finals in football and hurling have gone by without the involvement of a referee from north of the border. Can you see why some officials may not be thrilled about this ?
That really is a disgraceful statistic.
Some utterly incompetent referees there.
I have to say that the guy who refereed the Galway-Derry game last year (Lane from Cork) gave the worst refereeing display I can ever remember. He rode Derry non-stop for 70 minutes, I wouldn't just put that one down to incompetence, he seemed to have his mind made up from minute one that he was going to favour one team over another. McIver cried wolf about refereeing displays a bit too much last year but he was totally justifying in saying what he did about Lane. Saddening to see a chap like not being held accountable for such a performance.
Cassidy and Duffy are complete idiots of referees and you just know that whatever game they have is going to erupt into farce.
Think the two Laois men are poor referees but have a knack of getting a lot of big games despite messing up some big games.
Hughes gets a fair bit of unwarranted stick but tends to be a bit fussy for my liking.
McQuillan, Gough and Coldrick would be the best of the lot there. There are a few others there who I have not witnessed in action yet.
Sean Hurson the Tyrone ref is pretty decent
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 27, 2016, 11:32:22 PM
Hope he is linesman for one Mayo match, on my side.
He'll (Reilly) never be on your side Far (proverbially).
Good work by Headquarters to wait a year before demoting him!
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on April 27, 2016, 09:11:46 PM
Football - Championship Panel of 18:
Ciaran Branagan (An Dún)
Barry Cassidy (Doire)
David Coldrick (An Mhí)
Maurice Deegan (Laois)
Marty Duffy (Sligeach)
David Gough (An Mhí)
Rory Hickey (An Clár)
Padraig Hughes (Ard Mhacha)
Sean Hurson (Tír Eoghan)
Fergal Kelly (An Longfort)
Eddie Kinsella (Laois)
Conor Lane (Corcaigh)
Joe McQuillan (An Cabhán)
Noel Mooney (An Cabhán)
Paddy Neilan (Ros Comáin)
Anthony Nolan (Cill Mhantáin)
Derek O'Mahony (Tiobraid Árann)
Padraig O'Sullivan (Ciarraí)
Football - Championship Linesman Panel of 8:
James Bermingham (Corcaigh)
Niall Cullen (Fear Manach)
Liam Devenney (Maigh Eo)
Jerome Henry (Maigh Eo)
John Hickey (Ceatharlach)
Shaun McLaughlin (Dún na nGall)
Martin McNally (Muineachán)
Cormac Reilly (An Mhí)
Good to see Cormac Reilly finally demoted, John Hickey is the best referee I've seen out of the present bunch and unlucky not to make the referees panel. Noel Mooney the only new addition, he believes in non contact football and loves to be centre of attention. Blows his whistle in a shrill manner too.
That would be the reason he was promoted so ::)
good to see cormac reilly reduced to water boy cavan doing well suppose mr president helps does anyone know what criteria is applied in selecting the championship panel does it come down to the assesors
Have always liked Hughes and he gets a lot of unwarranted criticism.I have always been amused how a fan in the stand 50 or 60 yards away can see whether a decision is right or wrong over a ref who is normally no more than 10 or 15 yards away from the play.
have you ever heard of punctuation i dont think you have poor silly man
Quote from: skeog on April 28, 2016, 09:50:30 PM
good to see cormac reilly reduced to water boy cavan doing well suppose mr president helps does anyone know what criteria is applied in selecting the championship panel does it come down to the assesors
our fella are you a holder of a phd lighten up punctuation or not cormac reilly should not be any way near a game of major importance i am neither poor or silly by the way
Quote from: redzone on April 28, 2016, 07:31:48 PM
Sean Hurson the Tyrone ref is pretty decent
No he's not and he can't tell the time!
Quote from: maigheo on April 28, 2016, 11:59:52 PM
Have always liked Hughes and he gets a lot of unwarranted criticism.I have always been amused how a fan in the stand 50 or 60 yards away can see whether a decision is right or wrong over a ref who is normally no more than 10 or 15 yards away from the play.
Totally agree. One thing I like about him is that he is consistent. Imo of course. Plenty on here would beg to differ it seems.
Just wondering why is it a foul and a yellowcard if a tackler hits his opponents arm an almighty wallop but not a foul if the ball (over)carrier wallops a tackling arm?
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 28, 2016, 07:55:53 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 27, 2016, 11:32:22 PM
Hope he is linesman for one Mayo match, on my side.
He'll (Reilly) never be on your side Far (proverbially).
Good work by Headquarters to wait a year before demoting him!
I honestly dont see how Cormac Reilly could ever officiate at a Mayo game again. I would fear for his physical well being if he made any controversial calls against Mayo
Fellas complimenting refs from their own county isn't much value, as they never have to suffer them for real.
Equally though I would rather a neutral's view of a ref that officiates a match, rather than that a supporter of one of the counties involved. It is incredibly difficult for the men in black as, in any given incident, there can be a number of offences simultaneously (e.g. pulling & dragging versus over-carrying). When the ref calls it one way, the other team and supporters are outraged, particularly in tight big games.
I know I can be apoplectic with a ref and then be astonished to hear opposition fans who are equally annoyed with him. Who'd be a ref?
Also, teams set out to intimidate refs, surrounding the ref or flapping their arms wildly at every decision etc., which winds up their own supporters as well, which increases the pressure on the ref.
Regarding Cormac Reilly, I would refer to the general consensus in the media and on these boards from neutrals at the time and I'll leave it at that. But I do have sympathy for him. The game is almost unreffable (if that is a word) at times.
Quote from: Canalman on April 29, 2016, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: maigheo on April 28, 2016, 11:59:52 PM
Have always liked Hughes and he gets a lot of unwarranted criticism.I have always been amused how a fan in the stand 50 or 60 yards away can see whether a decision is right or wrong over a ref who is normally no more than 10 or 15 yards away from the play.
Totally agree. One thing I like about him is that he is consistent. Imo of course. Plenty on here would beg to differ it seems.
I've always had time for Paudie, and think that he applies the rules well, and exposes the ignorance of some spectators. I'd like to see him get an AI as he'll be retired before he gets an Armagh final.
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 29, 2016, 01:58:11 PM
Quote from: Canalman on April 29, 2016, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: maigheo on April 28, 2016, 11:59:52 PM
Have always liked Hughes and he gets a lot of unwarranted criticism.I have always been amused how a fan in the stand 50 or 60 yards away can see whether a decision is right or wrong over a ref who is normally no more than 10 or 15 yards away from the play.
Totally agree. One thing I like about him is that he is consistent. Imo of course. Plenty on here would beg to differ it seems.
I've always had time for Paudie, and think that he applies the rules well, and exposes the ignorance of some spectators. I'd like to see him get an AI as he'll be retired before he gets an Armagh final.
Only one thing though - did he not referee the 2009 county final between Harps and Pearse Ogs!
Was thinking last Sunday at the league finals that the advantage rule has been implemented quite well by most refs now and it really has helped the game though fans often are crying out for a free but don't notice the ref's hand up for the free.
The other thing though that is still up in the air is the black card. There is so much confusion about it I feel that often there is a foul but because the player falls to the ground it can be construed as a cynical drag down rather than a bad tackle and just a free. I think they need to revisit the wording of it so that it only targets CLEAR drag down or trips to purposely stop the attacking player from making progress.
At the moment a tackle in the first 5 mins will often escape a black card but the same tackle in the final 5 mins would receive one.
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 29, 2016, 02:04:59 PM
Was thinking last Sunday at the league finals that the advantage rule has been implemented quite well by most refs now and it really has helped the game though fans often are crying out for a free but don't notice the ref's hand up for the free.
The other thing though that is still up in the air is the black card. There is so much confusion about it I feel that often there is a foul but because the player falls to the ground it can be construed as a cynical drag down rather than a bad tackle and just a free. I think they need to revisit the wording of it so that it only targets CLEAR drag down or trips to purposely stop the attacking player from making progress.
At the moment a tackle in the first 5 mins will often escape a black card but the same tackle in the final 5 mins would receive one.
I think the wording includes the word "intentional" or "deliberate" (although I could be wrong). I don't think changing the wording is going to reduce spectator ignorance. A player knows that he commits a deliberate foul, other than a jersey pull unfortunately, that he/she should expect a black card.
Quote from: muppet on April 29, 2016, 01:49:50 PM
Fellas complimenting refs from their own county isn't much value, as they never have to suffer them for real.
Equally though I would rather a neutral's view of a ref that officiates a match, rather than that a supporter of one of the counties involved. It is incredibly difficult for the men in black as, in any given incident, there can be a number of offences simultaneously (e.g. pulling & dragging versus over-carrying). When the ref calls it one way, the other team and supporters are outraged, particularly in tight big games.
I know I can be apoplectic with a ref and then be astonished to hear opposition fans who are equally annoyed with him. Who'd be a ref?
Also, teams set out to intimidate refs, surrounding the ref or flapping their arms wildly at every decision etc., which winds up their own supporters as well, which increases the pressure on the ref.
Regarding Cormac Reilly, I would refer to the general consensus in the media and on these boards from neutrals at the time and I'll leave it at that. But I do have sympathy for him. The game is almost unreffable (if that is a word) at times.
I have sympathy for refs who makes honest mistakes, as they didn't see what really happened, or they thought they did, but the replays later show they got it wrong. Without the benefit of instant replays and TMO's, we have to expect mistakes to happen. I have sympathy for those refs who make individual mistakes at certain moments. They don't deserve the treatment they get in the media, or from spectators. But Reilly was so spectacularly awful throughout the entire Mayo/Kerry game, it is hard to have sympathy for him.
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Quote from: Applesisapples on April 29, 2016, 01:58:11 PM
Quote from: Canalman on April 29, 2016, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: maigheo on April 28, 2016, 11:59:52 PM
Have always liked Hughes and he gets a lot of unwarranted criticism.I have always been amused how a fan in the stand 50 or 60 yards away can see whether a decision is right or wrong over a ref who is normally no more than 10 or 15 yards away from the play.
Totally agree. One thing I like about him is that he is consistent. Imo of course. Plenty on here would beg to differ it seems.
I've always had time for Paudie, and think that he applies the rules well, and exposes the ignorance of some spectators. I'd like to see him get an AI as he'll be retired before he gets an Armagh final.
Only one thing though - did he not referee the 2009 county final between Harps and Pearse Ogs!
He is probably not the worst ref, but what really bothers the shit out of me is that, he seems to have the Napoleon complex or a boy scout troop leader (apologies to all who may be offended), and seems to have the need to show one and all that he is firmly in control, with any regard for fluency of the game or for the fans who have paid to get in.
Memo to Paudie, they don't pay to see you. I better stop before this becomes a complete rant.
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 29, 2016, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: redzone on April 28, 2016, 07:31:48 PM
Sean Hurson the Tyrone ref is pretty decent
No he's not and he can't tell the time!
Struggling to think of a decent ref from Tyrone in the last five years.
Quote from: Jinxy on April 29, 2016, 09:20:28 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 29, 2016, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: redzone on April 28, 2016, 07:31:48 PM
Sean Hurson the Tyrone ref is pretty decent
No he's not and he can't tell the time!
Struggling to think of a decent ref from Tyrone in the last five years.
To be fair I feel Applesisapples is being a bit harsh. I have seen Hurson referee a few games and think he is better than most. I do feel, however, he made a monument a mistake in his timekeeping in the Armagh v Galway game which ultimately led to Armagh being relegated.
pauric hughes will be in contention this year imo
Thought Hughes had an excellent game today .Keeps up with the play and is consistent in his application of the rules
Quote from: maigheo on April 30, 2016, 10:55:28 PM
Thought Hughes had an excellent game today .Keeps up with the play and is consistent in his application of the rules
Thought we got most of the Marginal Calls. Especially for one of the two goals in the first half where DOC won the ball with a toe poke!
Refs will allow a toe poke in most instances if there is no contact with the opposing player and it happened a few times today.
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 29, 2016, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: redzone on April 28, 2016, 07:31:48 PM
Sean Hurson the Tyrone ref is pretty decent
No he's not and he can't tell the time!
He's a biased ref imo. I wouldn't be keen on him.
I also wouldn't be keen on a lot of names on that list. I think there will be a few controversies guaranteed this summer!
Anthony Nolan from Wicklow....Enough said :o :o
Quote from: Throw ball on April 29, 2016, 02:04:36 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 29, 2016, 01:58:11 PM
Quote from: Canalman on April 29, 2016, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: maigheo on April 28, 2016, 11:59:52 PM
Have always liked Hughes and he gets a lot of unwarranted criticism.I have always been amused how a fan in the stand 50 or 60 yards away can see whether a decision is right or wrong over a ref who is normally no more than 10 or 15 yards away from the play.
Totally agree. One thing I like about him is that he is consistent. Imo of course. Plenty on here would beg to differ it seems.
I've always had time for Paudie, and think that he applies the rules well, and exposes the ignorance of some spectators. I'd like to see him get an AI as he'll be retired before he gets an Armagh final.
Only one thing though - did he not referee the 2009 county final between Harps and Pearse Ogs!
Not sure forgot about that one :)
http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0510/787392-flynn-standard-of-gaa-referees-not-acceptable/
Interesting and truthful comment from Bernarf Flynn on ref standards
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 10, 2016, 01:43:13 PM
http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0510/787392-flynn-standard-of-gaa-referees-not-acceptable/
Interesting and truthful comment from Bernarf Flynn on ref standards
Not strictly correct, umpires tend to be club mates/friends/family. Linesmen are referee's on the relevant panel. But he is correct you could count the number of good refs on one hand. Kiran on Sunday got key decisions wrong for both teams. He gave a free out at one stage in the last quarter when the Clare forward was clearly belted in the face and needed treatment, that should have been a 20m free which balanced out the softer one given to Waterford near the end. I don't think he unduly influenced the outcome which really was in the balance in the last 3 minutes. Over the course of the game he made poor decisions both ways but hurling is an incredibly hard game to referee particularly at the top level with the speed of the game. Southern officials tend to let more go to keep flow in the game and when you start down that road then not everyone is going to be happy. On the other hand blow every foul and managers, commentators, spectators and the hurlers on the ditch will bitch about the ref being whistle happy. But apply the rules consistently in hurling and the game will be stop start.
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 10, 2016, 01:58:10 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 10, 2016, 01:43:13 PM
http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0510/787392-flynn-standard-of-gaa-referees-not-acceptable/
Interesting and truthful comment from Bernarf Flynn on ref standards
Not strictly correct, umpires tend to be club mates/friends/family. Linesmen are referee's on the relevant panel. But he is correct you could count the number of good refs on one hand. Kiran on Sunday got key decisions wrong for both teams. He gave a free out at one stage in the last quarter when the Clare forward was clearly belted in the face and needed treatment, that should have been a 20m free which balanced out the softer one given to Waterford near the end. I don't think he unduly influenced the outcome which really was in the balance in the last 3 minutes. Over the course of the game he made poor decisions both ways but hurling is an incredibly hard game to referee particularly at the top level with the speed of the game. Southern officials tend to let more go to keep flow in the game and when you start down that road then not everyone is going to be happy. On the other hand blow every foul and managers, commentators, spectators and the hurlers on the ditch will bitch about the ref being whistle happy. But apply the rules consistently in hurling and the game will be stop start.
He was too far away to see that hit on the Clare lads helmet ..... but again not his fault as the ball was hammered up there 60 yards in a few seconds to get a good view of it.. Bolt would struggle to keep up with hurling at that level.... considering it was a tough match I thought he did well.. he consulted lines men and umpires throughout the game and applied the rules as best he could .... hes not there to let the game flow, I feel as long as you are consistent for both teams then there really is no complaints from either team... I'd have sent off wee Davy though... he loses control too much
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2016, 02:16:02 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 10, 2016, 01:58:10 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 10, 2016, 01:43:13 PM
http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0510/787392-flynn-standard-of-gaa-referees-not-acceptable/
Interesting and truthful comment from Bernarf Flynn on ref standards
Not strictly correct, umpires tend to be club mates/friends/family. Linesmen are referee's on the relevant panel. But he is correct you could count the number of good refs on one hand. Kiran on Sunday got key decisions wrong for both teams. He gave a free out at one stage in the last quarter when the Clare forward was clearly belted in the face and needed treatment, that should have been a 20m free which balanced out the softer one given to Waterford near the end. I don't think he unduly influenced the outcome which really was in the balance in the last 3 minutes. Over the course of the game he made poor decisions both ways but hurling is an incredibly hard game to referee particularly at the top level with the speed of the game. Southern officials tend to let more go to keep flow in the game and when you start down that road then not everyone is going to be happy. On the other hand blow every foul and managers, commentators, spectators and the hurlers on the ditch will bitch about the ref being whistle happy. But apply the rules consistently in hurling and the game will be stop start.
He was too far away to see that hit on the Clare lads helmet ..... but again not his fault as the ball was hammered up there 60 yards in a few seconds to get a good view of it.. Bolt would struggle to keep up with hurling at that level.... considering it was a tough match I thought he did well.. he consulted lines men and umpires throughout the game and applied the rules as best he could .... hes not there to let the game flow, I feel as long as you are consistent for both teams then there really is no complaints from either team... I'd have sent off wee Davy though... he loses control too much
Would agree with you, but his umpires or one of the linesmen should have seen it, the point I was making was it balanced out.
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 10, 2016, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2016, 02:16:02 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 10, 2016, 01:58:10 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 10, 2016, 01:43:13 PM
http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0510/787392-flynn-standard-of-gaa-referees-not-acceptable/
Interesting and truthful comment from Bernarf Flynn on ref standards
Not strictly correct, umpires tend to be club mates/friends/family. Linesmen are referee's on the relevant panel. But he is correct you could count the number of good refs on one hand. Kiran on Sunday got key decisions wrong for both teams. He gave a free out at one stage in the last quarter when the Clare forward was clearly belted in the face and needed treatment, that should have been a 20m free which balanced out the softer one given to Waterford near the end. I don't think he unduly influenced the outcome which really was in the balance in the last 3 minutes. Over the course of the game he made poor decisions both ways but hurling is an incredibly hard game to referee particularly at the top level with the speed of the game. Southern officials tend to let more go to keep flow in the game and when you start down that road then not everyone is going to be happy. On the other hand blow every foul and managers, commentators, spectators and the hurlers on the ditch will bitch about the ref being whistle happy. But apply the rules consistently in hurling and the game will be stop start.
He was too far away to see that hit on the Clare lads helmet ..... but again not his fault as the ball was hammered up there 60 yards in a few seconds to get a good view of it.. Bolt would struggle to keep up with hurling at that level.... considering it was a tough match I thought he did well.. he consulted lines men and umpires throughout the game and applied the rules as best he could .... hes not there to let the game flow, I feel as long as you are consistent for both teams then there really is no complaints from either team... I'd have sent off wee Davy though... he loses control too much
Would agree with you, but his umpires or one of the linesmen should have seen it, the point I was making was it balanced out.
Thought the linesman at that time was more up with play to be honest and he could have seen it better... not sure the better team won as they were evenly match throughout the game...
It is hard to ref for sure.. I've div 1 game on Wed and if you are not up to the pace then the lads aren't shy in letting you know.... love the fat arses behind the wire telling you to keep up!! You'll do better? normally shuts them up
I watched the programme on Setanta last night about GAA ref David Coldrick. Was quite an interesting programme and I was surprised how much he talked to the players during the game like rugby refs do.
He seemed to really work hard with his linesmen and umpires to make the right calls but said he wished umpires had the authority to recommend cards as well as the linesmen.
He seemed to say its a big step up to referee an Ulster final and that you need to be sharp but remain calm.
In the Cork v Dublin match they showed he was annoyed with himself that he couldn't see the incident where the Cork full back picked the ball up off the ground. He had too many bodies between him and the ball and he admitted that to most of the Dublin players who complained to him. At the end of that game he felt bad about that incident and said that he got the major incident of the game wrong. I was glad to hear that they can admit that but I wish they could admit it publicly after a game.
http://www.joe.ie/movies-tv/video-the-new-setanta-documentary-focusing-on-referees-looks-excellent/440901