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Title: International Rules Squad
Post by: WT4E on November 11, 2015, 12:28:07 PM
1 Niall Morgan (Tyrone)
2 Colm Begley (Laois)
3 Gary Brennan (Clare)
4 Bernard Brogan (Dublin) CAPT.
5 Eoin Cadogan (Cork)
9 Mattie Donnelly (Tyrone)
10 Eoin Doyle (Kildare)
11 Peter Harte (Tyrone)
13 Darren Hughes (Monaghan)
15 Lee Keegan (Mayo) VICE CAPT.
17 Paul Kerrigan (Cork)
19 Jack McCaffrey (Dublin)
20 Ciarán McDonald (Tipperary)
22 Philip McMahon (Dublin)
23 Conor McManus (Monaghan)
25 Rory O'Carroll (Dublin)
26 John O'Loughlin (Laois)
28 Aidan O'Shea (Mayo)
29 Michael Quinn (Longford)
31 Donnchadh Walsh (Kerry)
33 Diarmuid Connolly (Dublin)
34 Paul Cribbin (Kildare)
35 Paddy Mc Brearty (Donegal)

Whats the views on the squad lads?
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: JoG2 on November 11, 2015, 12:30:02 PM
&  standby players

16 Paddy O'Rourke (Meath)
6 Killian Clarke (Cavan)
7 Ray Connellan (Westmeath)
14 Kieran Hughes (Monaghan)
21 Gearoid McKiernan (Cavan)
24 Dessie Mone (Monaghan)
27 Colm O'Neill (Cork)
30 Enda Smith (Roscommon)

But for Scotstown, Hughes would have been a shoe in
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Schkite on November 11, 2015, 12:33:33 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 11, 2015, 12:30:02 PM
&  standby players

16 Paddy O'Rourke (Meath)
6 Killian Clarke (Cavan)
7 Ray Connellan (Westmeath)
14 Kieran Hughes (Monaghan)
21 Gearoid McKiernan (Cavan)
24 Dessie Mone (Monaghan)
27 Colm O'Neill (Cork)
30 Enda Smith (Roscommon)

But for Scotstown, Hughes would have been a shoe in

But Darren is on the main squad?

Thought this game would suit Kieran alright, he's strong, has a great pair of hands and can take a score. Darren is stronger running with the ball though.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: JoG2 on November 11, 2015, 12:34:36 PM
Quote from: Schkite on November 11, 2015, 12:33:33 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 11, 2015, 12:30:02 PM
&  standby players

16 Paddy O'Rourke (Meath)
6 Killian Clarke (Cavan)
7 Ray Connellan (Westmeath)
14 Kieran Hughes (Monaghan)
21 Gearoid McKiernan (Cavan)
24 Dessie Mone (Monaghan)
27 Colm O'Neill (Cork)
30 Enda Smith (Roscommon)

But for Scotstown, Hughes would have been a shoe in

But Darren is on the main squad?

interesting
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: oakleaflad on November 11, 2015, 12:40:37 PM
Quote from: WT4E on November 11, 2015, 12:28:07 PM
1 Niall Morgan (Tyrone)
2 Colm Begley (Laois)
3 Gary Brennan (Clare)
4 Bernard Brogan (Dublin) CAPT.
5 Eoin Cadogan (Cork)
9 Mattie Donnelly (Tyrone)
10 Eoin Doyle (Kildare)
11 Peter Harte (Tyrone)
13 Darren Hughes (Monaghan)
15 Lee Keegan (Mayo) VICE CAPT.
17 Paul Kerrigan (Cork)
19 Jack McCaffrey (Dublin)
20 Ciarán McDonald (Tipperary)
22 Philip McMahon (Dublin)
23 Conor McManus (Monaghan)
25 Rory O'Carroll (Dublin)
26 John O'Loughlin (Laois)
28 Aidan O'Shea (Mayo)
29 Michael Quinn (Longford)
31 Donnchadh Walsh (Kerry)
33 Diarmuid Connolly (Dublin)
34 Paul Cribbin (Kildare)
35 Paddy Mc Brearty (Donegal)

Whats the views on the squad lads?
Looks pretty much as good as they could have done with the players available. Not sure if Donnchadh Walsh will be suited to the game but best of luck to him.
No Derry men, thought McKaigue did rightly this past couple of times but I don't know if he even made himself available.
I personally think it's good that the players get a chance to represent their country and seem to enjoy it so best of luck to them.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Roashter on November 11, 2015, 01:39:03 PM
I'm always surprised to see Colm Begley on this team every year as I think he is way over-rated. I get the feeling that he is seen as someone who knows the Aussie game/mindset and will be a good addition to the squad.
Maybe I'm being too harsh on him though.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: nrico2006 on November 11, 2015, 01:50:26 PM
Quote from: Roashter on November 11, 2015, 01:39:03 PM
I'm always surprised to see Colm Begley on this team every year as I think he is way over-rated. I get the feeling that he is seen as someone who knows the Aussie game/mindset and will be a good addition to the squad.
Maybe I'm being too harsh on him though.

Has always been the way strangely, with any player who plays Aussie rules or has played getting into the squads when there are better GAA players not picked.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: WT4E on November 11, 2015, 01:59:42 PM
Was Sean Cavanagh available?
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Shamrock Shore on November 11, 2015, 02:50:01 PM
Longford's Michael Quinn will surely pull out if his club, Killoe, get to the Leinster club final.

If he does play he wil be a good addition with his Aussie rules experience and his overall ability.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Rossfan on November 11, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
Well done Enda Smith on getting on standby list.
I believe Cregger had also been called in for training but obviously didn't make the cut.
Syfín will be disappointed.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Shrewdness on November 11, 2015, 03:16:24 PM
Having played Sigerson with DCU, Senior and U-21 with Roscommon, not to mention numerous games with his club, Enda needs a break from football.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Schkite on November 11, 2015, 03:20:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 11, 2015, 02:50:01 PM
Longford's Michael Quinn will surely pull out if his club, Killoe, get to the Leinster club final.


Not necessarily, unless this game clashes with the Leinster final. Last year Chrissy McKaigue flew out to Australia late(along with McManus) due to an Ulster club semi, and played for Ireland even though Slaughtneil were in the Ulster final.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Shamrock Shore on November 11, 2015, 04:02:39 PM
QuoteNot necessarily, unless this game clashes with the Leinster final. Last year Chrissy McKaigue flew out to Australia late(along with McManus) due to an Ulster club semi, and played for Ireland even though Slaughtneil were in the Ulster final.

As he's Killoe's star player I cannot see how they would allow him 'time off' with the risk that he could get injured.

Time will tell but it's a great honour for him in any event.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTiJpryWcAIcyFR.jpg:large)
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: seafoid on November 11, 2015, 04:15:48 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 11, 2015, 04:02:39 PM
QuoteNot necessarily, unless this game clashes with the Leinster final. Last year Chrissy McKaigue flew out to Australia late(along with McManus) due to an Ulster club semi, and played for Ireland even though Slaughtneil were in the Ulster final.

As he's Killoe's star player I cannot see how they would allow him 'time off' with the risk that he could get injured.

Time will tell but it's a great honour for him in any event.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTiJpryWcAIcyFR.jpg:large)
The Irish Daily Mail soils that picture which is otherwise very impressive for Longford fuball
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Schkite on November 11, 2015, 04:22:55 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 11, 2015, 04:02:39 PM
QuoteNot necessarily, unless this game clashes with the Leinster final. Last year Chrissy McKaigue flew out to Australia late(along with McManus) due to an Ulster club semi, and played for Ireland even though Slaughtneil were in the Ulster final.

As he's Killoe's star player I cannot see how they would allow him 'time off' with the risk that he could get injured.

Time will tell but it's a great honour for him in any event.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTiJpryWcAIcyFR.jpg:large)

Aye I suppose we'll see, tough situation at this time of year when the clubs are still playing. Scotstown/Trillick in a similar situation with Hughes and Donnelly.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: rrhf on November 11, 2015, 04:53:08 PM
Good team lets hope we can kick the b**tards around the field!
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 11, 2015, 05:34:44 PM
Let's start by kicking the ball properly and not making a holy hames of executing our "natural skills". It'd mortify you when the Aussies bother themselves only a wee bit and outperform us at things they practised in their back yards for a week.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: DuffleKing on November 11, 2015, 05:37:05 PM
Are they still flogging away at this horse?

I'd need a holiday in Australia for a couple of weeks to convince me to go and watch
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: From the Bunker on November 11, 2015, 06:32:20 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 11, 2015, 05:37:05 PM
Are they still flogging away at this horse?

I'd need a holiday in Australia for a couple of weeks to convince me to go and watch

Ah it's another reason for the suits to open Croke park off season. There is no harm in it, but its nothing other than thrown together and makey up. Talk of playing for Ireland and an International game are hard to give credit to. Just wondering why does the Jersey crest not have the Shamrock like other Irish International Jerseys?
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 11, 2015, 06:51:21 PM
Quote from: WT4E on November 11, 2015, 12:28:07 PM
1 Niall Morgan (Tyrone)
2 Colm Begley (Laois)
3 Gary Brennan (Clare)
4 Bernard Brogan (Dublin) CAPT.
5 Eoin Cadogan (Cork)
9 Mattie Donnelly (Tyrone)
10 Eoin Doyle (Kildare)
11 Peter Harte (Tyrone)
13 Darren Hughes (Monaghan)
15 Lee Keegan (Mayo) VICE CAPT.
17 Paul Kerrigan (Cork)
19 Jack McCaffrey (Dublin)
20 Ciarán McDonald (Tipperary)
22 Philip McMahon (Dublin)
23 Conor McManus (Monaghan)
25 Rory O'Carroll (Dublin)
26 John O'Loughlin (Laois)
28 Aidan O'Shea (Mayo)
29 Michael Quinn (Longford)
31 Donnchadh Walsh (Kerry)
33 Diarmuid Connolly (Dublin)
34 Paul Cribbin (Kildare)
35 Paddy Mc Brearty (Donegal)

Whats the views on the squad lads?

9 of this years All -Stars i think the main question is why the other 6 are not on the panel or stand by players?
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Rossfan on November 11, 2015, 06:55:19 PM
Too small, not interested, need a rest, club commitments  ddidn't impress Joe, not asked by Joe back a few months before All Stars named........ etc.
I have my ticket bought a few weeks now and will be attending.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: larryin89 on November 11, 2015, 08:34:31 PM
Surprised the tiger boyler isn't on that panel . He did well before .
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: From the Bunker on November 11, 2015, 09:57:58 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on November 11, 2015, 08:34:31 PM
Surprised the tiger boyler isn't on that panel . He did well before .

Glad he's not! Needs a break/rest. Getting auld and lost a bit of form this year. Glad there are not many Mayo lads involved. Would rather if there was none.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 11, 2015, 10:00:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 11, 2015, 06:55:19 PM
Too small, not interested, need a rest, club commitments  ddidn't impress Joe, not asked by Joe back a few months before All Stars named........ etc.
I have my ticket bought a few weeks now and will be attending.
What is the attendance for these games usually?
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: twohands!!! on November 11, 2015, 10:12:40 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 11, 2015, 10:00:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 11, 2015, 06:55:19 PM
Too small, not interested, need a rest, club commitments  ddidn't impress Joe, not asked by Joe back a few months before All Stars named........ etc.
I have my ticket bought a few weeks now and will be attending.
What is the attendance for these games usually?

Last time it was played in Ireland it was 17,567 for the Cavan game and 28,525 for the game in Croke Park.
There was a lot of free and kids tickets involved in that number I'd say - might well be the first time the GAA authorities have tried to inflate attendances as opposed to knocking numbers of the gate. 46,092 between the two games and broadcast on TG4 is pretty feeble stuff.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Redhand Santa on November 11, 2015, 10:34:03 PM
Last time in ireland Australia sent a terrible squad and it was over after first test. At it's height they were selling 70000 tickets for the 2nd test. Even two series ago there was over 50000 at second test.

I personally thought the game in australia last year was very enjoyable. I enjoy get to see some of our top footballers play together. A full forward line of McManus ose and brogan is very exciting, with the likes of Connolly and Donnelly in half forward line. It's also good to see players like Brennan who other wise wouldn't get a chance to shine on such a big stage.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: screenexile on November 11, 2015, 10:36:53 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but it may be the first time Derry haven't an Irish representative for the IR... Sad but McKaigue would have been there had he made himself available.

Between football and hurling its been a serious slog as well as basically playing/training constantly for almost 2 years he deserves a break!
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Rossie11 on November 12, 2015, 01:41:06 PM
Wheres Pearse Hanley? Is he injured
Surely worth a place on that squad
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Throw ball on November 12, 2015, 02:37:32 PM
Quote from: Rossie11 on November 12, 2015, 01:41:06 PM
Wheres Pearse Hanley? Is he injured
Surely worth a place on that squad

Think I read he was not released to play.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: moysider on November 12, 2015, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 11, 2015, 09:57:58 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on November 11, 2015, 08:34:31 PM
Surprised the tiger boyler isn't on that panel . He did well before .

Glad he's not! Needs a break/rest. Getting auld and lost a bit of form this year. Glad there are not many Mayo lads involved. Would rather if there was none.

+1.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Rossfan on November 18, 2015, 04:15:52 PM
Not much interest among the Ulstherites and Rhus about this game it seems.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: rodney trotter on November 18, 2015, 04:56:17 PM
Ony 4 in the Australian Squad who have never played International Rules, so they are taking it fairly serious unlike 2013. Last years game was a decent game. Ireland were slow to get going but made  a late fightback.

It should also help the attendance that the Australians are more keen.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 18, 2015, 06:37:27 PM
That side is hardly the best 25 players in the country. I'd struggle to pick out quite a lot of those players. I'll be heading to the Railway cup games instead, which will have quite a lot more of the country's best players on show.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: rodney trotter on November 18, 2015, 06:44:08 PM
The Irish Squad?. Thats the problem when people know nothing about players from the  Weaker counties. Every bit as good as players from Dublin etc.

Mickey Quinn a top player.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Zulu on November 18, 2015, 07:24:28 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 18, 2015, 06:37:27 PM
That side is hardly the best 25 players in the country. I'd struggle to pick out quite a lot of those players. I'll be heading to the Railway cup games instead, which will have quite a lot more of the country's best players on show.

Dunno about that now.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Beffs on November 18, 2015, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 18, 2015, 06:37:27 PM
That side is hardly the best 25 players in the country. I'd struggle to pick out quite a lot of those players. I'll be heading to the Railway cup games instead, which will have quite a lot more of the country's best players on show.

It doesn't claim to be the best 25 players in the country. It is the best 25 players that are currently available. A lot of players would be still off away on club duty, or were on club duty too late to join the International Rules training panels, or are rehabbing from off season surgery, or are just in desperate need of a long off season rest.

There are nine All Stars from this year named on the panel, as well as all 3 Footballer of the Year nominees, as well as All Stars and AI medal winners from previous years. If you have a hard time picking all of them out, jayzus, get stronger glasses.  :o
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: rrhf on November 18, 2015, 08:54:45 PM
Terrible time for this.  Was taking a lorry load of kids but time wrong. Cold November evening.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Redhand Santa on November 18, 2015, 10:27:28 PM
The international rules was always good for allowing a few relatively unknown players from weaker counties a chance the shine on a bigger stage that they don't get with their county. So it's good to see players from Clare tipp and Longford included.

But there's plenty of top players involved with 9 of the current all stars and a few more nominees. Brogan Connolly McManus and ose have been among the top forwards in ireland over the last year.

Ireland are big underdogs but hopefully can put up a good showing and maybe even snatch a win versus a team of top professional athletes. The Irish players seem to panic sometimes when faced with the Aussie challenge but hoping they'll give it a proper go from the start this year.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Rossfan on November 18, 2015, 11:24:20 PM
Hope we get a close competitive game and an Irish win would be nice too.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Beffs on November 18, 2015, 11:32:29 PM
Quote from: rrhf on November 18, 2015, 08:54:45 PM
Terrible time for this.  Was taking a lorry load of kids but time wrong. Cold November evening.

Croke Park in November, is generally a helluva lot warmer than Croke Park in February or March, when the league games are on. And the league games are grand, as long as you bundle up. Add in that there are indoor areas (such as the bar at the back of the Canal End) with heating and tables and chairs, its a grand warm spot to escape to for a picnic, before the game and at half time.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: ONeill on November 18, 2015, 11:35:58 PM
It never recovered from time they took the Biff outta it.

Used to look forward to a slapping session. Now it's too serious with nothing unruly or edgy happening. A bit like marriage I suppose.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on November 19, 2015, 01:07:12 AM
Where is Zach Tuohy, has always impressed in previous years..


(http://img.rasset.ie/000b240e-642.jpg)
http://www.rte.ie/sport/other-sport/2015/0922/729472-tuohy-star/ (http://www.rte.ie/sport/other-sport/2015/0922/729472-tuohy-star/)
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 19, 2015, 02:24:06 AM
Quote from: Junior Ex Laoistalk on November 19, 2015, 01:07:12 AM
Where is Zach Tuohy, has always impressed in previous years..


(http://img.rasset.ie/000b240e-642.jpg)
http://www.rte.ie/sport/other-sport/2015/0922/729472-tuohy-star/ (http://www.rte.ie/sport/other-sport/2015/0922/729472-tuohy-star/)

Probably busy getting the other arm tattooed.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 19, 2015, 02:25:51 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2015, 11:35:58 PM
It never recovered from time they took the Biff outta it.

Used to look forward to a slapping session. Now it's too serious with nothing unruly or edgy happening. A bit like marriage I suppose.

Him from Back to the Future? I don't remember him playing.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 19, 2015, 02:33:28 AM
Quote from: Beffs on November 18, 2015, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 18, 2015, 06:37:27 PM
That side is hardly the best 25 players in the country. I'd struggle to pick out quite a lot of those players. I'll be heading to the Railway cup games instead, which will have quite a lot more of the country's best players on show.

It doesn't claim to be the best 25 players in the country. It is the best 25 players that are currently available. A lot of players would be still off away on club duty, or were on club duty too late to join the International Rules training panels, or are rehabbing from off season surgery, or are just in desperate need of a long off season rest.

There are nine All Stars from this year named on the panel, as well as all 3 Footballer of the Year nominees, as well as All Stars and AI medal winners from previous years. If you have a hard time picking all of them out, jayzus, get stronger glasses.  :o

My gasses iss find, Biffo.

Fair do's. I think it's also because players look quite similar these days too. Buffed up, chisel-jawed, beardy types. 3 or 4 of that Dublin defence for instance, I can't tell the difference between them. No distinguishable features. Maybe that's just the modern man.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on November 19, 2015, 09:51:26 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 18, 2015, 04:56:17 PM
Ony 4 in the Australian Squad who have never played International Rules, so they are taking it fairly serious unlike 2013. Last years game was a decent game. Ireland were slow to get going but made  a late fightback.

It should also help the attendance that the Australians are more keen.

Only 35k expected at this. Heading along but only using it as an excuse to have a few scoops in town afterwards.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Redhand Santa on November 19, 2015, 11:03:19 AM
People will criticise it if only 35,000 go but at the same time that's not a bad crowd for November. I'm not sure any other gaa game from October to May will attract as many people. It's more than pretty much every provincial championship game excluding Dublin and the Munster hurling final will attract.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: longballin on November 19, 2015, 02:08:34 PM
guessing loads of freebe school tickets handed out.... a farce
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Redhand Santa on November 19, 2015, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: longballin on November 19, 2015, 02:08:34 PM
guessing loads of freebe school tickets handed out.... a farce

What's the issue with encouraging kids to go? They get in cheap/free to most gaa matches already.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: JoG2 on November 19, 2015, 02:42:41 PM
Quote from: longballin on November 19, 2015, 02:08:34 PM
guessing loads of freebe school tickets handed out.... a farce

the Irishman of the week award goes to....   8)
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Rossfan on November 19, 2015, 03:14:32 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 19, 2015, 02:42:41 PM
Quote from: longballin on November 19, 2015, 02:08:34 PM
guessing loads of freebe school tickets handed out.... a farce

the Irishman of the week award goes to....   8)
Indeed. We don't want to letting a load of youngsters into games in our National Stadium.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: From the Bunker on November 19, 2015, 03:37:32 PM
Looks like the Aussies want a Tri-nations tournament with the USA added?

http://www.australianetworknews.com/international-rules-2015-us-joins-australia-vs-ireland-series/ (http://www.australianetworknews.com/international-rules-2015-us-joins-australia-vs-ireland-series/)
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Rossfan on November 19, 2015, 04:18:40 PM
Seeing that the Connacht Counties hockey NY in the annual Connacht Council freebie I fear the scoreboard wouldn't have enough space for what international teams would put up.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 19, 2015, 04:23:18 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 19, 2015, 02:42:41 PM
Quote from: longballin on November 19, 2015, 02:08:34 PM
guessing loads of freebe school tickets handed out.... a farce

the Irishman of the week award goes to....   8)
Just showing the (lack of) interest in the hybrid series.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: From the Bunker on November 19, 2015, 05:14:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 19, 2015, 04:18:40 PM
Seeing that the Connacht Counties hockey NY in the annual Connacht Council freebie I fear the scoreboard wouldn't have enough space for what international teams would put up.

Sure we have a makey up game. Whats the harm in a makey up international side to compete in it?
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: orangeman on November 21, 2015, 05:26:20 PM
Poor crowd so far. Very cold night. Hopefully the game will warm us up.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Line Ball on November 21, 2015, 06:51:21 PM
A boy up with a blow torch lighting the torches - sweet fcuk.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 21, 2015, 06:58:55 PM
When was the last time a match was played at Croke Park on the anniversary of Bloody Sunday?

Ironically, I'm reading The Bloodied Field at the moment, and today reached the actual chapter about the shooting itself.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: orangeman on November 21, 2015, 07:04:48 PM
Ireland seem to have deliberate policy of taking short frees making a few yards of territory each time.

Percentage game
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Syferus on November 21, 2015, 07:24:01 PM
Australia bouncing off AOS. Totally distracting the Austrailian inside line and giving McManus and Brogan opportunities.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Line Ball on November 21, 2015, 07:29:13 PM
O'Shea with a second goal after greedy Brogan went for his own score.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: armaghniac on November 21, 2015, 07:32:35 PM
AOS doing the business.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 21, 2015, 07:33:18 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on November 21, 2015, 07:29:13 PM
O'Shea with a second goal after greedy Brogan went for his own score.

A bit of gouging would sort AOS out. Oh wait, McMahon's on the same team.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: orangeman on November 21, 2015, 07:35:10 PM
Ireland skill level with the fund ball obviously is much superior. If they keep the fast pace up they should win this handy enough.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 21, 2015, 07:38:21 PM
Is that not a black card for the post? Terrible challenge on McBrearty.
Title: Re: International Rules
Post by: Syferus on November 21, 2015, 07:46:12 PM
Best half of this I've seen in this sport in a good while. Really good stuff by us. AOS just destroying them.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 21, 2015, 07:55:54 PM
Tadhg Kennelly was all talk before the game that Australia would be much better than their last visit to Ireland. They haven't shown much improvement thus far and the Irish will run out easy winners if this game continues as it is.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: 5 Sams on November 21, 2015, 08:13:09 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 21, 2015, 06:58:55 PM
When was the last time a match was played at Croke Park on the anniversary of Bloody Sunday?

Ironically, I'm reading The Bloodied Field at the moment, and today reached the actual chapter about the shooting itself.

Superb book.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 08:24:34 PM
Aussies back into it and we seem to have fallen back to defend a lead. We need to push up and keep up doing what got us into the lead in the first place. Number 5 for the Aussies is a class player.
Title: Re: International Rules
Post by: JoG2 on November 21, 2015, 08:24:49 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 21, 2015, 07:46:12 PM
Best half of this I've seen in this sport in a good while. Really good stuff by us. AOS just destroying them.

Agreed.  Very enjoyable,  especially when the marks are run quickly. Couple of early Australian scores at the start of the 4th quater will make it interesting
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 21, 2015, 08:26:11 PM
Anyone remember Julio Geordio? Why do I picture him while Tadhg Kennelly is interviewed?
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: orangeman on November 21, 2015, 08:33:29 PM
Ireland's ability to score goals crucial. Australia had good goal chances buy were simply unable to execute.




See what I mean !
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Line Ball on November 21, 2015, 08:38:33 PM
4 men inside the square and Brogan still wont pass - some captain!
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 21, 2015, 08:38:48 PM
Brogan is one greedy bollix.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Line Ball on November 21, 2015, 08:41:34 PM
Straight down the field then and a goal
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Line Ball on November 21, 2015, 08:44:34 PM
Good man Joe saving Ireland after some dodgy calls at the other end - Brogan again wouldn't pass.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
What are you taking about? Brogan was excellent. Will someone please do something about Martin Carney!!!
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: thebuzz on November 21, 2015, 08:53:15 PM
It mightn't mean much to some but very impressed with all the Aussies wearing the Irish shirts the right way out. I hate seeing players wearing opposition shirts inside out. Just something that annoys me.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: armaghniac on November 21, 2015, 08:54:11 PM
While the game is a bit strange, it is great to see Brogan, O"Shea and McManus playing together

Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
What are you taking about? Brogan was excellent. Will someone please do something about Martin Carney!!!

Very much so.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: StGallsGAA on November 21, 2015, 08:54:56 PM
But for the regular drug tests you'd think the Dublin players would be suited to professional sports!  ;)
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 21, 2015, 08:56:48 PM
It looks like the Aussies won  ffs.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 09:07:26 PM
It isn't any players main aim but that was an enjoyable game and something it's great to have for our players. Long may it continue.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: bridgegael on November 21, 2015, 09:12:18 PM
Gary Brennan was excellent tonight. Really stood up the last ten mins.  Enjoyable game
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: 5 Sams on November 21, 2015, 09:21:53 PM
What will Mickey Harte moan about now. That was great entertainment and it looks like it will be going to America as well.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: OgraAnDun on November 21, 2015, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
What are you taking about? Brogan was excellent. Will someone please do something about Martin Carney!!!

Some of his shooting was excellent but I also thought he had a problem with being able to pass the ball.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Kernan_is_King on November 21, 2015, 09:45:54 PM
Well done Ireland, you need a Cross' man to provide some leadership and make good men great.  I think the GAA should consider his bigness for the intergalactic competion.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: T Fearon on November 21, 2015, 09:49:37 PM
As a teenager Joe Kernan was all set to emigrate to Australia,when his father died unexpectedly,at which stage he decided to stay at home with his mother,and change the course of history
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 21, 2015, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
What are you taking about? Brogan was excellent. Will someone please do something about Martin Carney!!!

Some of his shooting was excellent but I also thought he had a problem with being able to pass the ball.

Don't know about that in fairness. You don't want a killer marksman to be a team player. I didn't think he was selfish, he is there to finish and he did. One of the best footballers in Ireland.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Line Ball on November 21, 2015, 10:26:41 PM
Your 'killer marksman' on at least four occasions had men in better positions for 6 or 3 pointers but always went for the selfish option, his own score, and it nearly cost Ireland in the long run. As someone else said, 'a selfish wee bollix.'
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: From the Bunker on November 21, 2015, 10:43:59 PM
Watched tonight's game from the 3rd quarter on. Harmless bit of entertainment possibly ruined by Martin Carney's co-commentary. He's a gas man and sounded well to the Aussie audience. Brogan was a bit greedy! But sure tonight was about showing your wares. He's a top player and top players go for goal when they get a chance. Also with the Aussie Keeper is makey up with little or no experience of keeping goal so having a go has to be priority.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: JoG2 on November 21, 2015, 10:47:45 PM
Quote from: bridgegael on November 21, 2015, 09:12:18 PM
Gary Brennan was excellent tonight. Really stood up the last ten mins.  Enjoyable game

He was excellent.  Would liked to have seen a second match next Sat. 

Agree re Carney,  was hard to listen to
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: thebuzz on November 21, 2015, 11:03:27 PM
Still can't understand the emphasis on six pointers in this game. Two overs is the same as a 6 pointer so to me the team that take the majority of their overs chances will win every time - 2 overs = 6 pointer - 3 points = 1 goal so a goal is far more important in our football but not so much so in the mixed rules.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: From the Bunker on November 21, 2015, 11:13:16 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on November 21, 2015, 11:03:27 PM
Still can't understand the emphasis on six pointers in this game. Two overs is the same as a 6 pointer so to me the team that take the majority of their overs chances will win every time - 2 overs = 6 pointer - 3 points = 1 goal so a goal is far more important in our football but not so much so in the mixed rules.

The emphasis on the 6 pointer is there because Aussie do not know how to defend against goals and usually have a novice goalkeeper. Plus old habits are hard to change!
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2015, 11:25:13 PM
Could never understand why Audi Hamilton never played this game.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Rodman on November 21, 2015, 11:48:43 PM
Joe Kernan has now managed his club, county, province and Country to win the highest accolade possible, not bad going in fairness.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Rossfan on November 22, 2015, 12:13:36 AM
Enjoyed the game tonight.
Ireland the better team but close run thing in the end. Syfín will be happy with the performances of the 2 Rhu lads.
Her man Brennan from Clare certainly wasn't out of place and good to see someone from a minnow County on the team.
Hopefully Ends Smith will give it another go next year and get a game as well.
Well done Ireland and as someone said Joe Keenan hasn't a bad oul record as a manager ( ignoring his year with Galway)
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: muppet on November 22, 2015, 01:18:19 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 21, 2015, 11:25:13 PM
Could never understand why Audi Hamilton never played this game.

Problem with his emissions apparently.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: rrhf on November 22, 2015, 01:19:29 AM
It's the rules of football in 10 years lads. Except the goals Whixley will be done away with..
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 22, 2015, 01:28:20 AM
Quote from: muppet on November 22, 2015, 01:18:19 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 21, 2015, 11:25:13 PM
Could never understand why Audi Hamilton never played this game.

Problem with his emissions apparently.

Must've been all those eggs he was eating.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 22, 2015, 01:39:38 AM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 21, 2015, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
What are you taking about? Brogan was excellent. Will someone please do something about Martin Carney!!!

Some of his shooting was excellent but I also thought he had a problem with being able to pass the ball.

Don't know about that in fairness. You don't want a killer marksman to be a team player. I didn't think he was selfish, he is there to finish and he did. One of the best footballers in Ireland.

Killer marksman, me hole. He's not ruthless enough to be considered one. He would need to sharpen up his reactions to finishing ruthlessly, and he'd also need to learn to be aware of teammates in better positions.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Syferus on November 22, 2015, 03:00:44 AM
All-Star Austrailian team were bouncing off AOS tonight - for us its a pity he wasn't poached by the Austrailians but an incredible display all the same. Brogan and McManus took full advantage of the space AOS afforded them.

Amazing to think a bunch of amateurs schooled the best professionals the AFL had to offer for three quarters and like ourselves last year all Australia could do was falter to decieve with a close scoreline at the end. If all the tests are this good the future for the series is bright. A
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Beffs on November 22, 2015, 03:02:47 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 22, 2015, 01:39:38 AM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 21, 2015, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
What are you taking about? Brogan was excellent. Will someone please do something about Martin Carney!!!

Some of his shooting was excellent but I also thought he had a problem with being able to pass the ball.

Don't know about that in fairness. You don't want a killer marksman to be a team player. I didn't think he was selfish, he is there to finish and he did. One of the best footballers in Ireland.

Killer marksman, me hole. He's not ruthless enough to be considered one. He would need to sharpen up his reactions to finishing ruthlessly, and he'd also need to learn to be aware of teammates in better positions.

Sharpen up his reactions? Are you joking? You do realize that he scored 6-21 from open play this year.....far, far, far above what any other player scored from open play.

He was 3rd in the over all scoring stats. He would have been first, if you remove Cillian O'Connor and Sean Quigley's pts from frees, from the equation. He also set up countless other Dublin players for goals all year... Exhibit A being the goal he handed Philly McMahon on a platter, in the Mayo semi final replay.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Zulu on November 22, 2015, 09:51:32 AM
Quote from: Beffs on November 22, 2015, 03:02:47 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 22, 2015, 01:39:38 AM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 21, 2015, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
What are you taking about? Brogan was excellent. Will someone please do something about Martin Carney!!!

Some of his shooting was excellent but I also thought he had a problem with being able to pass the ball.

Don't know about that in fairness. You don't want a killer marksman to be a team player. I didn't think he was selfish, he is there to finish and he did. One of the best footballers in Ireland.

Killer marksman, me hole. He's not ruthless enough to be considered one. He would need to sharpen up his reactions to finishing ruthlessly, and he'd also need to learn to be aware of teammates in better positions.

Sharpen up his reactions? Are you joking? You do realize that he scored 6-21 from open play this year.....far, far, far above what any other player scored from open play.

He was 3rd in the over all scoring stats. He would have been first, if you remove Cillian O'Connor and Sean Quigley's pts from frees, from the equation. He also set up countless other Dublin players for goals all year... Exhibit A being the goal he handed Philly McMahon on a platter, in the Mayo semi final replay.

+1, nonsense comment from BennyCake.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: heffo on November 22, 2015, 10:25:54 AM
Quote from: Zulu on November 22, 2015, 09:51:32 AM
Quote from: Beffs on November 22, 2015, 03:02:47 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 22, 2015, 01:39:38 AM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 21, 2015, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
What are you taking about? Brogan was excellent. Will someone please do something about Martin Carney!!!

Some of his shooting was excellent but I also thought he had a problem with being able to pass the ball.

Don't know about that in fairness. You don't want a killer marksman to be a team player. I didn't think he was selfish, he is there to finish and he did. One of the best footballers in Ireland.

Killer marksman, me hole. He's not ruthless enough to be considered one. He would need to sharpen up his reactions to finishing ruthlessly, and he'd also need to learn to be aware of teammates in better positions.

Sharpen up his reactions? Are you joking? You do realize that he scored 6-21 from open play this year.....far, far, far above what any other player scored from open play.

He was 3rd in the over all scoring stats. He would have been first, if you remove Cillian O'Connor and Sean Quigley's pts from frees, from the equation. He also set up countless other Dublin players for goals all year... Exhibit A being the goal he handed Philly McMahon on a platter, in the Mayo semi final replay.

+1, nonsense comment from BennyCake.

He's either been drinking or he's on the windup.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 22, 2015, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: heffo on November 22, 2015, 10:25:54 AM
Quote from: Zulu on November 22, 2015, 09:51:32 AM
Quote from: Beffs on November 22, 2015, 03:02:47 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 22, 2015, 01:39:38 AM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 21, 2015, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
What are you taking about? Brogan was excellent. Will someone please do something about Martin Carney!!!

Some of his shooting was excellent but I also thought he had a problem with being able to pass the ball.

Don't know about that in fairness. You don't want a killer marksman to be a team player. I didn't think he was selfish, he is there to finish and he did. One of the best footballers in Ireland.

Killer marksman, me hole. He's not ruthless enough to be considered one. He would need to sharpen up his reactions to finishing ruthlessly, and he'd also need to learn to be aware of teammates in better positions.

Sharpen up his reactions? Are you joking? You do realize that he scored 6-21 from open play this year.....far, far, far above what any other player scored from open play.

He was 3rd in the over all scoring stats. He would have been first, if you remove Cillian O'Connor and Sean Quigley's pts from frees, from the equation. He also set up countless other Dublin players for goals all year... Exhibit A being the goal he handed Philly McMahon on a platter, in the Mayo semi final replay.

+1, nonsense comment from BennyCake.

He's either been drinking or he's on the windup.

Or he's been drinking and he's on the windup.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 22, 2015, 12:37:47 PM
Quote from: Beffs on November 22, 2015, 03:02:47 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 22, 2015, 01:39:38 AM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 21, 2015, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
What are you taking about? Brogan was excellent. Will someone please do something about Martin Carney!!!

Some of his shooting was excellent but I also thought he had a problem with being able to pass the ball.

Don't know about that in fairness. You don't want a killer marksman to be a team player. I didn't think he was selfish, he is there to finish and he did. One of the best footballers in Ireland.

Killer marksman, me hole. He's not ruthless enough to be considered one. He would need to sharpen up his reactions to finishing ruthlessly, and he'd also need to learn to be aware of teammates in better positions.

Sharpen up his reactions? Are you joking? You do realize that he scored 6-21 from open play this year.....far, far, far above what any other player scored from open play.

He was 3rd in the over all scoring stats. He would have been first, if you remove Cillian O'Connor and Sean Quigley's pts from frees, from the equation. He also set up countless other Dublin players for goals all year... Exhibit A being the goal he handed Philly McMahon on a platter, in the Mayo semi final replay.

Only third, having played Longford, Fermanagh, Westmeath and a brutal Kildare team? And all matches at home?!

Oh, McMahons goal that he over-carried and then threw to him?

He's a decent player but I know I'd rather have in my team, a McDonnell, Cooper, Canavan, Murphy. Players that were more ruthless in front of goal and could get scores from nothing, goals in particular.

He had 3 or 4 goal chances last night and took none. His awareness around him was ridiculous. And the one time he did pass, he couldn't even execute a simple two yard fistpass across the square... it nearly got McBrearty killed against the post.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Beffs on November 22, 2015, 01:04:13 PM
Well go on then... point me toward a player that scored more goals than him last year & was more ruthless in front of goal than him then....

Or are you going to move the goal posts again & decide that his goals don't count because of who he played or the manner of how they were scored? Right you are so.... :o
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Zulu on November 22, 2015, 01:12:46 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 22, 2015, 12:37:47 PM
Quote from: Beffs on November 22, 2015, 03:02:47 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 22, 2015, 01:39:38 AM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 21, 2015, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on November 21, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
What are you taking about? Brogan was excellent. Will someone please do something about Martin Carney!!!

Some of his shooting was excellent but I also thought he had a problem with being able to pass the ball.

Don't know about that in fairness. You don't want a killer marksman to be a team player. I didn't think he was selfish, he is there to finish and he did. One of the best footballers in Ireland.

Killer marksman, me hole. He's not ruthless enough to be considered one. He would need to sharpen up his reactions to finishing ruthlessly, and he'd also need to learn to be aware of teammates in better positions.

Sharpen up his reactions? Are you joking? You do realize that he scored 6-21 from open play this year.....far, far, far above what any other player scored from open play.

He was 3rd in the over all scoring stats. He would have been first, if you remove Cillian O'Connor and Sean Quigley's pts from frees, from the equation. He also set up countless other Dublin players for goals all year... Exhibit A being the goal he handed Philly McMahon on a platter, in the Mayo semi final replay.

Only third, having played Longford, Fermanagh, Westmeath and a brutal Kildare team? And all matches at home?!

Oh, McMahons goal that he over-carried and then threw to him?

He's a decent player but I know I'd rather have in my team, a McDonnell, Cooper, Canavan, Murphy. Players that were more ruthless in front of goal and could get scores from nothing, goals in particular.

He had 3 or 4 goal chances last night and took none. His awareness around him was ridiculous. And the one time he did pass, he couldn't even execute a simple two yard fistpass across the square... it nearly got McBrearty killed against the post.

Oh dear. All we can hope is that you don't really believe what you're saying.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Beffs on November 22, 2015, 01:20:25 PM
So it's also Brogans fault that "nearly got McBreaty killed" now is it?

http://www.the42.ie/paddy-mcbrearty-goalpost-irs-test-2460052-Nov2015/

You really have a vendetta against him, don't you? Is there anything else that you'd like to blame on him...the conflict in the Middle East, world hunger perhaps ?  ::)
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: From the Bunker on November 22, 2015, 01:22:11 PM
The tackle caught out Brogan last night. As with any GAA player he is used to the shadow contact of our game. Even the fans thought it was a penalty when he was pulled down one on one with the Goalkeeper. Hard to change old habits of 20 years plus to accommodate a one off game. Also with the Aussie goalkeeper being a novice, Any sort of a half chance has to be taken. You'll expect him (the goalkeeper) not to be up to much and if you hang around you'll end up with your face in the mud. He did not have one of his better days yesterday, but to judge how good or Average he is as a player on a hybrid game last night is looking at things out of context.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: manfromdelmonte on November 22, 2015, 01:25:31 PM
I thought Morgan was a liability

the kickout past the 45 is a brilliant idea.
lots of high fielding
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: From the Bunker on November 22, 2015, 01:30:21 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 22, 2015, 01:25:31 PM
I thought Morgan was a liability

the kickout past the 45 is a brilliant idea.
lots of high fielding
Would this rule not suit the Blanket defence?
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 22, 2015, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: Beffs on November 22, 2015, 01:20:25 PM
So it's also Brogans fault that "nearly got McBreaty killed" now is it?

http://www.the42.ie/paddy-mcbrearty-goalpost-irs-test-2460052-Nov2015/

You really have a vendetta against him, don't you? Is there anything else that you'd like to blame on him...the conflict in the Middle East, world hunger perhaps ?  ::)

I don't have a vendetta against him. I'm merely explaining my point. I've said he's a decent player but he's overhyped.

And yes, McBrearty collided with the post due to Brogans poorly executed pass.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Zulu on November 22, 2015, 01:35:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 22, 2015, 01:22:11 PM
The tackle caught out Brogan last night. As with any GAA player he is used to the shadow contact of our game. Even the fans thought it was a penalty when he was pulled down one on one with the Goalkeeper. Hard to change old habits of 20 years plus to accommodate a one off game. Also with the Aussie goalkeeper being a novice, Any sort of a half chance has to be taken. You'll expect him (the goalkeeper) not to be up to much and if you hang around you'll end up with your face in the mud. He did not have one of his better days yesterday, but to judge how good or Average he is as a player on a hybrid game last night is looking at things out of context.

Brogan was excellent last night, one of Irelands best.

QuoteI don't have a vendetta against him. I'm merely explaining my point. I've said he's a decent player but he's overhyped.

If that's your opinion then fine but it wouldn't be shared by many and there is no evidence to support it.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: From the Bunker on November 22, 2015, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: Zulu on November 22, 2015, 01:35:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 22, 2015, 01:22:11 PM
The tackle caught out Brogan last night. As with any GAA player he is used to the shadow contact of our game. Even the fans thought it was a penalty when he was pulled down one on one with the Goalkeeper. Hard to change old habits of 20 years plus to accommodate a one off game. Also with the Aussie goalkeeper being a novice, Any sort of a half chance has to be taken. You'll expect him (the goalkeeper) not to be up to much and if you hang around you'll end up with your face in the mud. He did not have one of his better days yesterday, but to judge how good or Average he is as a player on a hybrid game last night is looking at things out of context.

Brogan was excellent last night, one of Irelands best.



He did ok. I was defending him for being greedy! Look don't take it so seriously! It's a Mickey Mouse game to create an international feel to  Gaelic football and to see good players from different counties play together. The Gouch one of the better forwards in the country played a series once (I think) and had a stinker. It has no relevance on how good a GAA player you are.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Zulu on November 22, 2015, 02:02:02 PM
Last nights game has nothing to do with what we are taking about. I don't think BennyCake is suggesting Brogan is overrated based on last night alone and nobody else is saying otherwise based on last night either. However, if you were you'd conclude Brogan was an excellent player.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Syferus on November 22, 2015, 02:30:46 PM
Brogan was good taking points at tight angles. Passing, not so much. Can't understand the attack / defence force stuff for him here though.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Throw ball on November 22, 2015, 02:44:52 PM
Enjoyed the game last night but Croke Park was absolutely freezing. Think the padded posts is a great idea and should be introduced to all pitches. The kick out past the 45 worked well but if introduced to GAA Aidan O'Shea should be banned from that area as no one else would get a chance! :) As for Brogan, in a way I can see were Benny is coming from but I would always want him on my team. Quality player.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: StephenC on November 22, 2015, 03:22:30 PM
Brogan is an absolute class act. Anyone saying anything else is a clown.

Bad enough tackle on Paddy but I hear he's fine.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: bennydorano on November 22, 2015, 06:40:30 PM
First Rules game i've really enjoyed in a while, I used to be a big fan but like a lot of people felt it was heading the way of the Railway Cup, my 2 young sons thoroughly enjoyed it (TV) but i have to say it never once crossed my mind to look about tickets, I probably will the next time we are at home.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on November 23, 2015, 02:35:39 AM
Have to say I think the rules have been tipped too far in our favour, particularly now that the Aussies have to go softer in the tackle.
I'd get rid of six pointers to even it up a little. Them having to try to train someone to play a completely alien position in a few weeks is a bit too much when they already have to adapt to a round ball and rectangular pitch. Then just have it six points through the big sticks, one through the little ones.
It would be more of a challenge. At the moment most Australians labour under the impression that they're playing us at gaelic football without understanding the many subtle differences. You can try to explain that we'd beat them in an actual Gaelic match by about 3-18 to 1-4 but they don't get it.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: lenny on November 23, 2015, 07:04:04 AM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on November 23, 2015, 02:35:39 AM
Have to say I think the rules have been tipped too far in our favour, particularly now that the Aussies have to go softer in the tackle.
I'd get rid of six pointers to even it up a little. Them having to try to train someone to play a completely alien position in a few weeks is a bit too much when they already have to adapt to a round ball and rectangular pitch. Then just have it six points through the big sticks, one through the little ones.
It would be more of a challenge. At the moment most Australians labour under the impression that they're playing us at gaelic football without understanding the many subtle differences. You can try to explain that we'd beat them in an actual Gaelic match by about 3-18 to 1-4 but they don't get it.

I really enjoyed the game on sat evening. Having said that I think it would be worth trying the oval ball for a year or 2. I think the top gaa players would adapt better to it than the aussies do to the round ball.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: David McKeown on November 23, 2015, 09:11:46 AM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on November 23, 2015, 02:35:39 AM
Have to say I think the rules have been tipped too far in our favour, particularly now that the Aussies have to go softer in the tackle.
I'd get rid of six pointers to even it up a little. Them having to try to train someone to play a completely alien position in a few weeks is a bit too much when they already have to adapt to a round ball and rectangular pitch. Then just have it six points through the big sticks, one through the little ones.
It would be more of a challenge. At the moment most Australians labour under the impression that they're playing us at gaelic football without understanding the many subtle differences. You can try to explain that we'd beat them in an actual Gaelic match by about 3-18 to 1-4 but they don't get it.

Strange I was actually thinking they should up the score for a goal to 7 or 8 points as a goal only being worth 2 x an over does adequately reward it for me. I think more points for a goal might make the Aussies more keen to try for them/try and prevent them
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on November 23, 2015, 12:37:57 PM
Enjoyable night in Croker but the pulse only quickened in the last quarter when the Aussies put on a big push and nearly squeezed home. Surprising little mention of the Aussie tactic of leaving our FF line unmarked for our kickouts and crowding the middle. Only for Aidan O'Shea we could have been in big trouble here. Kickouts beyond the 45 would only work if you introduced the mark as the middle was more congested for the kickouts than the Donegal defensive zone.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 23, 2015, 01:35:31 PM
Can't understand the obsession of turning Gaelic football into Aussie Rules. Four quarters were experimented, kicks from the hands, and the mark. Why not just have an extra few posts too?

Timekeeping, Hawkeye, yellow cards etc is fine, but if they make any more rule changes, our game will be unrecognisable.

Personally, I'd reduce team numbers to improve it as there's just too many players on the pitch. It might help the overcrowding issue and allow the more skillful players the space to thrive. Unless you're built like a shithouse, you are at a severe disadvantage.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: 50fiftyball on November 23, 2015, 02:06:49 PM
Was down myself on Saturday night and I'd agree Benny, the smaller players definitely did not have the same impact - Peter Harte, Matty Donnelly as strong as he is I thought struggled to make an impression. Brennan, O'Se, Quinn to name a few all got stuck in and suited the game better.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: twohands!!! on November 23, 2015, 02:15:31 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on November 22, 2015, 02:44:52 PMThink the padded posts is a great idea and should be introduced to all pitches. The kick out past the 45 worked well but if introduced to GAA Aidan O'Shea should be banned from that area as no one else would get a chance! :)

The kick out past the 45 worked because neither manager pulled back their forwards - if it was introduced into Gaelic you would have the team who weren't kicking out the ball pulling all their players back to at least the 45m line to contest/congest the central area. You could have it that there would only be limited numbers of players in certain areas of the field but I can see it being very messy for refs to keep on top of.

The padded posts is definitely something that should be looked at - only problem is could make shots for goals that hit off the post very messy.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Syferus on November 23, 2015, 03:55:11 PM
Padded posts in a sport where the aim of the sport is shooting into a goal is madness.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: screenexile on November 23, 2015, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 23, 2015, 03:55:11 PM
Padded posts in a sport where the aim of the sport is shooting into a goal is madness.

It most certainly isn't... there are lots of injuries from people smacking into the post in GAA!!
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Syferus on November 23, 2015, 04:02:05 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 23, 2015, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 23, 2015, 03:55:11 PM
Padded posts in a sport where the aim of the sport is shooting into a goal is madness.

It most certainly isn't... there are lots of injuries from people smacking into the post in GAA!!

Very few in the grand scheme of things. It's not something we should be game-planning against.

I can't think of any major sport where padded posts are used when there's a goal that's being targeted by shots. Not ice hockey, not soccer and not even European handball.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: AZOffaly on November 23, 2015, 04:08:11 PM
Is that not what happened Ronan Clarke? I notice the Boys national school here in Newport have their uprights padded. I thought it was a good idea, especially for young lads.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on November 23, 2015, 04:20:55 PM
I think we'll see a reversion back to the old square ball rule before we see padded posts brought in.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: yellowcard on November 23, 2015, 05:40:55 PM
A game where the score doesn't really matter to anyone bar those involved is hard to get too excited about. That said, it passed an hour and it is always interesting to see how some of the top gaelic players react in a more physical environment. Conor McManus pulled out of a serious amount of balls, while Brogan couldn't get rid of the ball quick enough for fear of being tackled (although he did well on occasions to be fair to him). Gary Brennan and Aidan O'Se were those who shone the most and it was only Ireland's greater ability at working goal chances that won them the match. Australia were better up until 45m from goals but Ireland had the better finishers. Overall though, the reality is that without the dust ups and physicality this game will always be a hard sell.   
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: trileacman on November 23, 2015, 08:51:18 PM
Found it a bit like netball with all the marks to be honest. Bit soft to see the ball move from one end of the park to another without a man getting a hand in or anyone being put under pressure.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: BennyCake on November 23, 2015, 09:34:49 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on November 23, 2015, 02:06:49 PM
Was down myself on Saturday night and I'd agree Benny, the smaller players definitely did not have the same impact - Peter Harte, Matty Donnelly as strong as he is I thought struggled to make an impression. Brennan, O'Se, Quinn to name a few all got stuck in and suited the game better.

I actually meant the smaller players not having a impact in Gaelic. Although the same applies to this game too.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: 5 Sams on November 23, 2015, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 23, 2015, 05:40:55 PM
A game where the score doesn't really matter to anyone bar those involved is hard to get too excited about. That said, it passed an hour and it is always interesting to see how some of the top gaelic players react in a more physical environment. Conor McManus pulled out of a serious amount of balls, while Brogan couldn't get rid of the ball quick enough for fear of being tackled (although he did well on occasions to be fair to him). Gary Brennan and Aidan O'Se were those who shone the most and it was only Ireland's greater ability at working goal chances that won them the match. Australia were better up until 45m from goals but Ireland had the better finishers. Overall though, the reality is that without the dust ups and physicality this game will always be a hard sell.

Bit harsh on Brogan there. Do you not HAVE to get rid of the ball when you're tackled in this game?
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: INDIANA on November 23, 2015, 11:09:47 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on November 23, 2015, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 23, 2015, 05:40:55 PM
A game where the score doesn't really matter to anyone bar those involved is hard to get too excited about. That said, it passed an hour and it is always interesting to see how some of the top gaelic players react in a more physical environment. Conor McManus pulled out of a serious amount of balls, while Brogan couldn't get rid of the ball quick enough for fear of being tackled (although he did well on occasions to be fair to him). Gary Brennan and Aidan O'Se were those who shone the most and it was only Ireland's greater ability at working goal chances that won them the match. Australia were better up until 45m from goals but Ireland had the better finishers. Overall though, the reality is that without the dust ups and physicality this game will always be a hard sell.

Bit harsh on Brogan there. Do you not HAVE to get rid of the ball when you're tackled in this game?

Other counties should be looking a the genius skill levels of Connolly and Brogan and saying to themselves why don't we have players with this skill-level
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on November 23, 2015, 11:20:27 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 23, 2015, 07:04:04 AM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on November 23, 2015, 02:35:39 AM
Have to say I think the rules have been tipped too far in our favour, particularly now that the Aussies have to go softer in the tackle.
I'd get rid of six pointers to even it up a little. Them having to try to train someone to play a completely alien position in a few weeks is a bit too much when they already have to adapt to a round ball and rectangular pitch. Then just have it six points through the big sticks, one through the little ones.
It would be more of a challenge. At the moment most Australians labour under the impression that they're playing us at gaelic football without understanding the many subtle differences. You can try to explain that we'd beat them in an actual Gaelic match by about 3-18 to 1-4 but they don't get it.

I really enjoyed the game on sat evening. Having said that I think it would be worth trying the oval ball for a year or 2. I think the top gaa players would adapt better to it than the aussies do to the round ball.

Have you ever kicked a Sherrin about? It's not easy. It demands a unique kicking style and it's also hard to adapt to the flight of it. Expecting to learn to use it properly in a few weeks would be similar to taking up hurling and expecting to master it quickly. 
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Syferus on November 23, 2015, 11:30:24 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on November 23, 2015, 11:20:27 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 23, 2015, 07:04:04 AM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on November 23, 2015, 02:35:39 AM
Have to say I think the rules have been tipped too far in our favour, particularly now that the Aussies have to go softer in the tackle.
I'd get rid of six pointers to even it up a little. Them having to try to train someone to play a completely alien position in a few weeks is a bit too much when they already have to adapt to a round ball and rectangular pitch. Then just have it six points through the big sticks, one through the little ones.
It would be more of a challenge. At the moment most Australians labour under the impression that they're playing us at gaelic football without understanding the many subtle differences. You can try to explain that we'd beat them in an actual Gaelic match by about 3-18 to 1-4 but they don't get it.

I really enjoyed the game on sat evening. Having said that I think it would be worth trying the oval ball for a year or 2. I think the top gaa players would adapt better to it than the aussies do to the round ball.

Have you ever kicked a Sherrin about? It's not easy. It demands a unique kicking style and it's also hard to adapt to the flight of it. Expecting to learn to use it properly in a few weeks would be similar to taking up hurling and expecting to master it quickly.

It's just an oval ball. I think it's a bit of a stupid ball for a fast-paced field sport like Aussie Rules to be using honestly. Needless complications for little gain.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Rossfan on November 23, 2015, 11:44:27 PM
They've been using them since 1858 Syfín.
No doubt when they read your post they'll adopt the round ball immediately ;D
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Syferus on November 23, 2015, 11:48:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 23, 2015, 11:44:27 PM
They've been using them since 1858 Syfín.
No doubt when they read your post they'll adopt the round ball immediately ;D

It's not a ball suited to the sort of passing that their game deals in. It's too entrenched now to change but it's an oddity more than anything else. Bit like the stupidly large pitches.
Title: Re: International Rules Squad
Post by: Rossfan on November 23, 2015, 11:53:48 PM
Pitches come from originally  using cricket pitches in their off season I suspect. Also like our football their game was mainly a long kicking game up to recent times.