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Title: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: T Fearon on February 20, 2014, 12:10:07 AM
Man City and Arsenal out of their depth in the last 16 against the European elite,Chelsea and Man Ure haven't a snowballs chance in hell of even coming close to the trophy.The so called best league in the world, a billionaires playground with the best salaries in the world is truly an embarrassment these days
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 20, 2014, 12:17:10 AM
Wouldn't rule out Chelsea, they finished sixth in the league two years ago and won the Champions league they also have Jose Mourinho who won it with Porto and Internazionale.
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2014, 12:18:25 AM
Cyclical.
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: seafoid on February 20, 2014, 06:03:10 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 20, 2014, 12:18:25 AM
Cyclical.
Celtic seem to be in an uber-Kondratiev cycle
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: seafoid on February 20, 2014, 06:05:12 AM
Cody should have a word with FIFA about the red cards that ruined those 2 matches.
Beating 10 man Arsenal 2-0 would not be seen as manly around Dunamaggin. 
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on February 20, 2014, 06:52:19 AM
The BBC live feed was a joke it was full of backs against the wall guff and look at the effort Arsenal are putting in you would think it was Luton town Bayern were playing and not a top of the table premiership team with one of the best managers in the world - embarrassing stuff
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: Eamonnca1 on February 20, 2014, 07:31:45 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 20, 2014, 12:10:07 AM
Man City and Arsenal out of their depth in the last 16 against the European elite,Chelsea and Man Ure haven't a snowballs chance in hell of even coming close to the trophy.The so called best league in the world, a billionaires playground with the best salaries in the world is truly an embarrassment these days

Thank you for your continued interest in British soccer.
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: nrico2006 on February 20, 2014, 08:09:24 AM
Put simply, its a case of there being 2 exceptional teams (Barcelona and Munich) who are miles ahead of the rest.  The real gulf lies when you watch any team from these two islands play most other European nationals now at International level.  The game is played in a different manner now yet Ireland, Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales are miles behind and still try and play route 1 football.
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2014, 08:11:54 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 20, 2014, 12:10:07 AM
Man City and Arsenal out of their depth in the last 16 against the European elite,Chelsea and Man Ure haven't a snowballs chance in hell of even coming close to the trophy.The so called best league in the world, a billionaires playground with the best salaries in the world is truly an embarrassment these days

Any team that gets beat by Aberdeen at home need serious abuse Tony
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: johnneycool on February 20, 2014, 10:42:10 AM
As a matter of interest how many English players lit up our screens the last two nights?

Man City had Joe Hart and the introduction of a poor Joleen Lescott IIRC, Arsenal had Wilshere and a left back only as well, so from a possible starting 22 players only 4 are actually English.

Both Bayern and Barca had more players from their respective countries.

Chelsea are something similar, probably slightly better with the aging JT and Lamps, possibly Cole, but he's not getting too many starts either,

FFS Celtic probably have more English lads on their team at the minute.

And they wonder why England are shit when it comes to major tournaments.
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: AZOffaly on February 20, 2014, 10:46:33 AM
I think that's why the BBC especially has a hard on for Liverpool. BT Sport as well. Johnson, Flanagan, Gerrard, Sterling, Henderson, Sturridge all on a first XI potentially.
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: Geoff Tipps on February 20, 2014, 11:10:33 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 20, 2014, 10:46:33 AM
I think that's why the BBC especially has a hard on for Liverpool. BT Sport as well. Johnson, Flanagan, Gerrard, Sterling, Henderson, Sturridge all on a first XI potentially.

Yes if all fit I think they would be.
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 20, 2014, 11:20:49 AM
Arsenal first XI over next few years has potentially Jenkinson, Gibbs, Ramsey, Wilshere, Ox and Walcott.
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: johnneycool on February 20, 2014, 11:46:35 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 20, 2014, 11:20:49 AM
Arsenal first XI over next few years has potentially Jenkinson, Gibbs, Ramsey, Wilshere, Ox and Walcott.
Aye Ox was playing last night, wasn't he?
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: seafoid on February 20, 2014, 12:58:10 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 20, 2014, 10:42:10 AM
As a matter of interest how many English players lit up our screens the last two nights?

Man City had Joe Hart and the introduction of a poor Joleen Lescott IIRC, Arsenal had Wilshere and a left back only as well, so from a possible starting 22 players only 4 are actually English.

Both Bayern and Barca had more players from their respective countries.

Chelsea are something similar, probably slightly better with the aging JT and Lamps, possibly Cole, but he's not getting too many starts either,

FFS Celtic probably have more English lads on their team at the minute.

And they wonder why England are shit when it comes to major tournaments.

Indeed. I think England in general has a problem with short termism and not planning for the future.
The England team is quite sad, really.

30,32,34,36,38,40,42,44,46,48 years of hurt
 

 
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: Asal Mor on February 20, 2014, 03:20:31 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 20, 2014, 06:05:12 AM
Cody should have a word with FIFA about the red cards that ruined those 2 matches.
Beating 10 man Arsenal 2-0 would not be seen as manly around Dunamaggin.

;D Very good.
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: T Fearon on February 22, 2014, 10:58:08 PM
Real Sociedad made mincemeat out of Barca,Messi and all,in La Liga tonight,3-1, showing once again how useless Man City are
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2014, 11:41:27 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 22, 2014, 10:58:08 PM
Real Sociedad made mincemeat out of Barca,Messi and all,in La Liga tonight,3-1, showing once again how useless Man City are

I  think Celtic would win La liga every year, as long as Aberdeen and Rangers don't play there
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: hectorsheroes on February 23, 2014, 12:39:04 AM
Good job Spurs know their level and stay away from premier European competitions then
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: cadhlancian on February 23, 2014, 01:33:36 AM
It's CONEY ,also. Ya gombeen :(
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: T Fearon on February 25, 2014, 10:36:25 PM
Olympiakos 2 Mn Utd 0 I rest my case
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: EC Unique on March 19, 2014, 10:14:18 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2014, 10:36:25 PM
Olympiakos 2 Mn Utd 0 I rest my case

;D
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: magpie seanie on March 20, 2014, 09:56:22 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 19, 2014, 10:14:18 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2014, 10:36:25 PM
Olympiakos 2 Mn Utd 0 I rest my case

;D

Get the hotels booked
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: supersub on March 20, 2014, 10:14:38 AM
05-12 saw a decent run for English clubs in the CL top be fair, hence the investment and big salaries over the last few years. Swings and roundabouts. Liverpool, Utd, Chelsea have all won it in the last ten years with 7 of the last 9 finals being contested by an English team (2 English teams 08). Only Spain have produced the same amount of winners in the same time, and that was Barca on all 3 occasions, probably the best footballing club team ever. The German teams are starting to come in to force now just like the English teams dominated it when Benetiz, Fergie and Mourinho were around in England mid 00s. 07-08 saw 3 of the four semi finalists as English teams. Every team, club, country has their time and at the moment it isn't the EPLs strongest representation in the Europe - wouldn't say an embarrassment though.
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 20, 2014, 06:42:21 PM
Spurs with Aaron Lennon as captain.
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 20, 2014, 06:55:28 PM
Benfica now leading 4-1 its becoming embarrassing for Tottenham.
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: From the Bunker on March 20, 2014, 07:37:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 20, 2014, 06:55:28 PM
Benfica now leading 4-1 its becoming embarrassing for Tottenham.

4-3 now!

What's embarrassing is that Spurs take this competition serious year in year out getting to at least the last 32. It interferes with their league schedule and qualifying for the CL.
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 20, 2014, 07:38:42 PM
Yes two goals out of nothing for Tottenham, could be extra time yet  :o
Title: Re: English clubs an embarrassment now in Europe
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 20, 2014, 08:14:12 PM
Tim Sherwood. Worst caretaker since Ian Huntley.