Trailing by 9 pts to Louth doesn't exactly thrill me with confidence about this fixture. I know that Armagh-Down tussles are hard-fought affairs, but do we really have a cat's chance in this one?
Is match at 7 or 8?
I was less confident against Louth. I think we can get a result. We usually do in this fixture.
Have Down and Armagh been at such a low ebb simultaneously at any time in living memory.Both well off the pace in Ulster,never mind All Irelands.50/50 game on Friday night, with home advantage normally being the deciding factor in recent years
Quote from: T Fearon on February 02, 2014, 09:49:33 PM
Have Down and Armagh been at such a low ebb simultaneously at any time in living memory.Both well off the pace in Ulster,never mind All Irelands.50/50 game on Friday night, with home advantage normally being the deciding factor in recent years
After what I witnessed today we wil get beaten by seven points. I hate down with a passion but they are much better than we are currently the cnuts.
Yerra yerra!!
Quote from: stew on February 02, 2014, 09:53:51 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 02, 2014, 09:49:33 PM
Have Down and Armagh been at such a low ebb simultaneously at any time in living memory.Both well off the pace in Ulster,never mind All Irelands.50/50 game on Friday night, with home advantage normally being the deciding factor in recent years
After what I witnessed today we wil get beaten by seven points. I hate down with a passion but they are much better than we are currently the cnuts.
If Down are streets ahead of Armagh then you seriously are in trouble. Down havent beat Armagh in Armagh for must be 20 odd years.
If both teams take their first half performances yesterday in to this game it will be a dreadful affair.
The losers in this game could be in trouble.
Do Down have anyone to mark Jamie Clarke? Does any team for that matter. With a player like him you always have a chance.
Down's last win in Armagh was in 1992, Ulster Championship. It's a 50/50 game between two mediocre sides, and there'll not be much in it.
QuoteThe losers in this game could be in trouble.
The winners of this game could be in trouble!
Who would hold the upper hand in head to head meetings in the last 10 years?
Quote from: Club Rossa on February 03, 2014, 01:03:52 PM
Who would hold the upper hand in head to head meetings in the last 10 years?
Here now this could be a whole handlin . We'd have to rank the importance of the match and qualify it with who was injured, emigrated and how impartial the referee was.
I'll devise an algorithm for you.
Armagh Championship wins in 2008 and 2011,NFL Final Div 2 in 2010,Armagh league win in 2012.
Down two league wins in Home in 2010 and 2011
Team for Fridat
Mc Evoy
A Mallon
Vernon
Hughes
Shields
Mc Keever
C Rafferty
Harold
E Rafferty
B MalLon
K Dyas
????
Clarke
S Campbell
Tasker
Tony Kernan left half forward
Boylesports odds, 11/8 Armagh,8/11 Down and a very attractive 15/2 the draw
Anyone know the story with Brendan Donaghy? Big miss for us!!
The Down team, according to the county board's twitter, shows only one change from the Monaghan match, which is something of a surprise.
Shane Harrison
Daniel McCartan
Peter Turley
Darren O'Hagan
Ryan Boyle
Aidan Carr
Conor Garvey
Kevin McKernan
Ryan Mallon
Darragh O'Hanlon
Mark Poland
Jerome Johnston
Donal O'Hare
Niall Madine
Conor Maginn
What's the situation regarding Aaron Kernan? When will he be back?
Game live on premiersports. If u have virgin u will get that. Im watching more GAA on the box in Britain than i did in Ireland at this time of year!
Is the game live on setanta too?
I like Armagh at those odds.
You couldn't possibly call this match tonight as both teams are poor and under strength. A bit of luck on the night or a referee decision could decide the game. I think Armagh could sneak this one by 1-2Pt's but the best bet on the game will be for who will get the black cards that'll be dished out tonight?
Quote from: illdecide on February 07, 2014, 10:06:29 AM
You couldn't possibly call this match tonight as both teams are poor and under strength. A bit of luck on the night or a referee decision could decide the game. I think Armagh could sneak this one by 1-2Pt's but the best bet on the game will be for who will get the black cards that'll be dished out tonight?
Looks like the weather is going to add to the lottery too......wouldn't be placing any bets on this game.
Lump what Hughie Morgan owes Armagh County Board on a home victory at 11/8!
Must win game for Armagh. Am liking the look of our forward line but Vernon in full back has me worried. Off to pick up the tickets now.
Forgive me, but is it not possible to pay at the turnstiles anymore?
Quote from: general on February 07, 2014, 12:57:55 PM
Forgive me, but is it not possible to pay at the turnstiles anymore?
You can but it's £13 rather than £9. I suppose the GAA want to try and avoid handling money at the turnstiles. Makes sense I suppose after the Casement hijacking a few years ago.
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on February 07, 2014, 09:01:11 AM
Is the game live on setanta too?
Yeah it's on Setanta Ireland at 7.30
Anyone know if there's radio coverage of the match?
Is it on Armagh TV?
Quote from: Oraisteach on February 07, 2014, 05:16:18 PM
Anyone know if there's radio coverage of the match?
The first ever Friday night Allianz football league game is live on BBC Radio Ulster 1341MW from 19:45 this evening.
Join Austin O'Callaghan and Adrian McGuckin for Armagh v Down at the Athletic Grounds.
To listen online: bbc.co.uk/sportni
What is the weather and pitch condition like lads?
Quote from: Johnny Tightlips on February 07, 2014, 07:20:49 PM
What is the weather and pitch condition like lads?
Raining and strong winds the pitch is holding up ok so far. 8mins gone Armagh 0-2 Down 0-0
Quote from: Johnny Tightlips on February 07, 2014, 07:20:49 PM
What is the weather and pitch condition like lads?
Weather - driving rain and looks a strong wind behind Armagh in 1st half. The pitch looks in good nick considering.
26mins gone Armagh 1-3 Down 0-1
Down are making poor use of the ball even though they are playing against the wind.
QuoteWhat is the weather and pitch condition like lads?
Weather - driving rain and looks a strong wind behind Armagh in 1st half. The pitch looks in good nick considering.
Best pitch in North Armagh.....apparently
Half time Armagh 1-3 Down 0-3
For those interested or/and with a penchant for self flagellation, the game is being streamed on
http://tykestv.eu/streams/xtra/xtra10/
The game is on Setanta
For those who can get Setanta.
55 mins gone Armagh 2-4 Down 1-6 lucky goal for Armagh.
FT Armagh 2-5 Down 2-7
A disappointed crowd, no doubt.
A game of goals out of the blue.
Whens geezer starting his thing?
MotM obviously voted before McPolin's 2nd goal! ???
Quote from: under the bar on February 07, 2014, 09:58:25 PM
MotM obviously voted before McPolin's 2nd goal! ???
Who does McPolin play for?
Was this 2 bald men fighting over a comb? Armagh look like they'll get relegated.
Incredibly poor conditions. Very very strong wind, heavy rain and bitter cold. Weather obviously took toll on crowd and quality of football. Whoever was to win this match would have to consider themselves lucky. Armagh got a very lucky goal but missed a few chances. I thought the first Down goal was a square ball but would need a reply to decide. May well mean Armagh get relegated but hope a few players learn a few things. He may not be many people's favorite but McKeever was great for Armagh today.
Quote from: Throw ball on February 07, 2014, 10:32:19 PM
Incredibly poor conditions. Very very strong wind, heavy rain and bitter cold. Weather obviously took toll on crowd and quality of football. Whoever was to win this match would have to consider themselves lucky. Armagh got a very lucky goal but missed a few chances. I thought the first Down goal was a square ball but would need a reply to decide. May well mean Armagh get relegated but hope a few players learn a few things. He may not be many people's favorite but McKeever was great for Armagh today.
It looked squarer than Grimley's red neck.
Lads I know there is plenty of rule changes these days but you should know you can't get called for square ball from play anymore.
Horrible horrible conditions to play in but can't fault the Armagh players for the defeat. They were committed and worked hard, as a supporter that's what you want to see. Mckeever was immense tonight.
Quote from: JP on February 07, 2014, 10:41:58 PM
Lads I know there is plenty of rule changes these days but you should know you can't get called for square ball from play anymore.
Horrible horrible conditions to play in but can't fault the Armagh players for the defeat. They were committed and worked hard, as a supporter that's what you want to see. Mckeever was immense tonight.
Sorry JP you are wrong there. From play the square ball rule means you can enter the square before the ball but after it is passed. Similar to offside in soccer. I thought the Down man was in the square before the initial shot.
Quote from: Throw ball on February 07, 2014, 10:46:31 PM
Quote from: JP on February 07, 2014, 10:41:58 PM
Lads I know there is plenty of rule changes these days but you should know you can't get called for square ball from play anymore.
Horrible horrible conditions to play in but can't fault the Armagh players for the defeat. They were committed and worked hard, as a supporter that's what you want to see. Mckeever was immense tonight.
Sorry JP you are wrong there. From play the square ball rule means you can enter the square before the ball but after it is passed. Similar to offside in soccer. I thought the Down man was in the square before the initial shot.
Looked it up. You were right. My apologies!!
Quote from: JP on February 07, 2014, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on February 07, 2014, 10:46:31 PM
Quote from: JP on February 07, 2014, 10:41:58 PM
Lads I know there is plenty of rule changes these days but you should know you can't get called for square ball from play anymore.
Horrible horrible conditions to play in but can't fault the Armagh players for the defeat. They were committed and worked hard, as a supporter that's what you want to see. Mckeever was immense tonight.
Sorry JP you are wrong there. From play the square ball rule means you can enter the square before the ball but after it is passed. Similar to offside in soccer. I thought the Down man was in the square before the initial shot.
Looked it up. You were right. My apologies!!
You learn something new every day! ;D
Better from Armagh today, on a shite evening, thank God for the biggest covered stand in Ulster. McKeever showed his worth, his Cullyhanna colleague showed why he has a reputation for hothead responses. Disappointed we didn't manage a draw at least.
Thought it was a square ball myself and he was def in the square before the ball was played but the commentator reckons the Armagh back getting a slight touch on the ball meant it wasn't
Soaked but satisfied- Down were lucky enough but it's been a long time coming agin themuns. Both teams displayed good commitment but both teams are not coming down with quality- Mc Keever was good but so were Peter Turley and Mc Kernan. O'Hagan marked Jamie Clarke well. Down should pick up another 2 points to make them safe but it will be a tight one for Armagh Next game is home to Donegal so content with 3 points at this stage.
what a night for football. terrible conditions but still brilliant to get a long overdue win in the athletic grounds. its hard to judge any player or system on such a night when mistakes and turnovers from both teams were plentiful. all the down lads deserve a lot of credit for grinding out a win when the game looked lost.
Two poor teams.Mc Keever best player on pitch by a mile.Why didn't Armagh play with the same grit and determination in the first half as they showed in the second half? We needed a 6 point lead at half time to have a chance but never looked like getting it
Quote from: Dubh driocht on February 07, 2014, 11:12:21 PM
Soaked but satisfied- Down were lucky enough but it's been a long time coming agin themuns. Both teams displayed good commitment but both teams are not coming down with quality- Mc Keever was good but so were Peter Turley and Mc Kernan. O'Hagan marked Jamie Clarke well. Down should pick up another 2 points to make them safe but it will be a tight one for Armagh Next game is home to Donegal so content with 3 points at this stage.
[/b]next game is home to louth on sat 1st march
The Armagh wides in the first half came back to haunt. Tough way to lose and may have to win the remaining home games just to stay up now.
If a monsoon is needed to get us a win at the Athletic Grounds, we will take it every time. The conditions were so bad that the game was turned into a lottery, but Down, without ever playing well, showed decent mental strength to turn a two point deficit into a two point win during injury time.
The force of the wind and the rain probably meant that Armagh needed a lead of at least six points at the break, and had to settle for three,so it could be argued that Down won it in first half by clever defending. However, according to RTE, there were concerns that players were suffering from hypothermia at the break, with the possibility that the match could be abandoned, so both sides deserve credit for bravery and commitment in the circumstances.
Harrison had no chance with the first Armagh goal, although he seemed to lose the flight of the ball for the second one. However, these things happen on filthy nights and his handling and kick-outs were otherwise excellent.
McArdle lost possession under pressure for what looked as though it was likely to be the wining point for Armagh, but worked hard for the rest of the game. O'Hagan did a fine job on Clarke while McCartan was just as good in the other corner.
Carr was the pick of the half back line which inevitably made handling errors, although Garvey and Boyle battled all the way. Turley was probably our man of the match for the second week in a row, and his strength was crucial time and time again, while Mallon ran all night and was unfortunate with his black card.
Poland actually took an unusual number of wrong options but it is difficult to criticise your captain when he gets two goals in such circumstances. There must have been six hand passes in the middle of a blizzard for the winning goal and luckily the right man was on the end of it. Maginn probably covered more ground than anyone else and McKernan showed a touch of class for both of his points.
O'Hare scored two difficult frees and missed a relatively simple one and still looks to be playing his way back to fitness. Jerome Johnston did not score but chased and harried all night while Madine had his best display since his championship debut last summer and was hugely improved from his struggles against Monaghan.
James again deserves full credit for his substitution, as the Kilcoo youngsters, O'Hanlon and Ryan Johnston, definitely made a difference, while Eoin McCartan, for the second week running, scored with his first touch. It was great to see Benny getting a run at the end, even without touching the ball, and there were some very happy and very wet Down people at the final whistle. Kallum King's wedding reception would be the place to be around now as soon as the winning squad bursts through the doors.
So division three then for the orangemen. Thats ok. Back in the day thats where it all started with a win over dublin in breffini park damien horsk ger reed.. Legends
Quote from: lawnseed on February 08, 2014, 02:00:10 AM
So division three then for the orangemen. Thats ok. Back in the day thats where it all started with a win over dublin in breffini park damien horsk ger reed.. Legends
I also remember that same Armagh team losing a pile of close matches before learning how to win and beckoning Armagh's greatest era.
So the conclusion then is Armagh down, Down stable
Good win for Down. Fair play to Poland who got plenty of attention throughout and still came up with the goods big time.
Read someone saying Armagh have the biggest covered stand in Ulster? Was it just me or are the seats the smallest and most crampt? #sardines. Not much merit in having the biggest plane when all the seats are economy ;)
And fair play to the youngsters at half time. Did the child protection officers have a night off?
Quote from: Mourne Rover on February 08, 2014, 12:16:46 AM
If a monsoon is needed to get us a win at the Athletic Grounds, we will take it every time. The conditions were so bad that the game was turned into a lottery, but Down, without ever playing well, showed decent mental strength to turn a two point deficit into a two point win during injury time.
The force of the wind and the rain probably meant that Armagh needed a lead of at least six points at the break, and had to settle for three,so it could be argued that Down won it in first half by clever defending. However, according to RTE, there were concerns that players were suffering from hypothermia at the break, with the possibility that the match could be abandoned, so both sides deserve credit for bravery and commitment in the circumstances.
Harrison had no chance with the first Armagh goal, although he seemed to lose the flight of the ball for the second one. However, these things happen on filthy nights and his handling and kick-outs were otherwise excellent.
McArdle lost possession under pressure for what looked as though it was likely to be the wining point for Armagh, but worked hard for the rest of the game. O'Hagan did a fine job on Clarke while McCartan was just as good in the other corner.
Carr was the pick of the half back line which inevitably made handling errors, although Garvey and Boyle battled all the way. Turley was probably our man of the match for the second week in a row, and his strength was crucial time and time again, while Mallon ran all night and was unfortunate with his black card.
Poland actually took an unusual number of wrong options but it is difficult to criticise your captain when he gets two goals in such circumstances. There must have been six hand passes in the middle of a blizzard for the winning goal and luckily the right man was on the end of it. Maginn probably covered more ground than anyone else and McKernan showed a touch of class for both of his points.
O'Hare scored two difficult frees and missed a relatively simple one and still looks to be playing his way back to fitness. Jerome Johnston did not score but chased and harried all night while Madine had his best display since his championship debut last summer and was hugely improved from his struggles against Monaghan.
James again deserves full credit for his substitution, as the Kilcoo youngsters, O'Hanlon and Ryan Johnston, definitely made a difference, while Eoin McCartan, for the second week running, scored with his first touch. It was great to see Benny getting a run at the end, even without touching the ball, and there were some very happy and very wet Down people at the final whistle. Kallum King's wedding reception would be the place to be around now as soon as the winning squad bursts through the doors.
I think the substitution of Mallon was enforced as he received a black card.
A real lottery of a game. With the gale there was Armagh needed a 6-7 point lead at half time. They kicked about 8? wide's the first half. Turley was Down MOM for me with Mc Keever the main man for the Orchard. Mixed bag for Harrison like last week. Brilliant save to deny a goal and came out well at the end to force the Armagh player to take a point. Mc Cartan(Dan) and o 'Hagan both were solid enough. After last weeks encouraging performance, I thought the Half back line were very poor. Stray/suicide passes, getting caught in possession, taking ball into multiple tacklers and getting Dispossessed. Garvey lucky enough not to get the line when he led with the fist in the first half.
The experiment with Mallon at midfield is not working. He makes good breaks and has bags of pace but too often he makes the wrong choice and we end up getting turned over. Mc Kernan also had a strong performance. He covered a lot of ground and popped up with 2 important points. He withstood a bone shaking hit from Mc Keever who seemed to come off worse after it. A strange game for Poland, he was anonymous for long stretches yet ended up with two goals! Brendan Mc Ardle was caught a number of times in possession(the last time nearly letting Armagh in for a goal) any time he gets the ball I'm nervous. Like last week Madine came into it in the second half. He's a big lump and a little heavy legged, but showed last night that he's worth persevering with in the FF position. Donal missed a fairly easy free in the second half but up to that took his other chances well and looked lively. Jerome Johnston and Maginn tried hard but in those conditions the physicality of the Armagh backs was always going to tell.
Of the subs Eoin took his point well and offered a little more physicality. Young O Hanlon looked lively and I think he is a better option than Mc Ardle. Ryan Johnston didn't really impact the game and I would like to see him on from the start. Armagh will be kicking themselves that they let this one slip. Too much messing around in the first half when the ball should have been delivered to Clarke or Tasker who looked to have the beating of their men. Campbell should have went for goal at the end which would have sealed it. Anyway, from a Down perspective any win at the Athletics ground is encouraging.
Quote from: Aristo 60 on February 08, 2014, 12:14:23 PM
Read someone saying Armagh have the biggest covered stand in Ulster? Was it just me or are the seats the smallest and most crampt? #sardines.
I think the seats in Armagh are probably typical of modern stadia. Their suitability for a particular game may depend on the proportion of big arses in the visiting support. ::)
Quote from: Aristo 60Not much merit in having the biggest plane when all the seats are economy ;)
You should have booked one of the heated massage recliners in the Pullman Lounge, where special award winning staff leased from Singapore Airlines serve tapas prepared by one of the top Asturian chefs.
You should have booked one of the heated massage recliners in the Pullman Lounge, where special award winning staff leased from Singapore Airlines serve tapas prepared by one of the top Asturian chefs.
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Do you also get to put a message up on the BIG SCREEN in that package or is that £5 extra?
Referee rode Armagh, we couldn't buy a free in a scoreable position. McKeever got no protection either, joke. We had a man sent off for what was a 50/50 incident, why didn't the down man walk? The down man that got the black card was out on his feet, Coldrick did him a favour.
Still think we'll stay up and be in good shape for the championship.
Quote from: armaghniac on February 08, 2014, 01:30:17 PM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on February 08, 2014, 12:14:23 PM
Read someone saying Armagh have the biggest covered stand in Ulster? Was it just me or are the seats the smallest and most crampt? #sardines.
I think the seats in Armagh are probably typical of modern stadia. Their suitability for a particular game may depend on the proportion of big arses in the visiting support. ::)
Quote from: Aristo 60Not much merit in having the biggest plane when all the seats are economy ;)
You should have booked one of the heated massage recliners in the Pullman Lounge, where special award winning staff leased from Singapore Airlines serve tapas prepared by one of the top Asturian chefs.
Ah marvellous - that explains it ::) ::) ::) ::)
I don't know how it affects the players, but I found the big screen very sore on the eyes. It's too bright.
Quote
I don't know how it affects the players, but I found the big screen very sore on the eyes. It's too bright.
They should probably adjust the brightness for night games.
Quote from: BennyCake on February 08, 2014, 02:08:37 PM
I don't know how it affects the players, but I found the big screen very sore on the eyes. It's too bright.
Yes I think they need to tone the colour down for anthem. The flag on the screen would blind you!
Points will be raised at next IT sub committee meeting! ;D
Meanwhile are you all going to get your names scrolled on the screen at Monaghan game?
Quote from: T Fearon on February 08, 2014, 10:30:11 PM
Points will be raised at next IT sub committee meeting! ;D
Meanwhile are you all going to get your names scrolled on the screen at Monaghan game?
How much are they charging?
Don't know.Will find out.Screen is superb,exact replica of the one at the Davin Stand in Croker.Certainly adds to the match day experience and should be a good revenue source too.
Paddy o rourkes legacy lives on. It'll take some work to undo the damage :D
Paddy O'Rourke's era is fast becoming a golden one! Defeating Kerry away, winning NFL Div 2, beating Derry away in the Championship, running the Dubs to three points in the Championship at Croker Park...things we can only dream about nowadays >:(
Quote from: T Fearon on February 07, 2014, 11:21:29 PM
Two poor teams.Mc Keever best player on pitch by a mile.Why didn't Armagh play with the same grit and determination in the first half as they showed in the second half? We needed a 6 point lead at half time to have a chance but never looked like getting it
Did Mark Poland not score 2 goals off him.? ???
Quote from: crossfire on February 10, 2014, 12:54:10 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 07, 2014, 11:21:29 PM
Two poor teams.Mc Keever best player on pitch by a mile.Why didn't Armagh play with the same grit and determination in the first half as they showed in the second half? We needed a 6 point lead at half time to have a chance but never looked like getting it
Did Mark Poland not score 2 goals off him.? ???
Yes - plus it looked like Eoin McCartan got a point off him with his first touch.
Enjoyed the highlights on TG4 on Sunday evening (but nothing bates having been there!) and the "Na McCartans" afterwards.
Quote from: crossfire on February 10, 2014, 12:54:10 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 07, 2014, 11:21:29 PM
Two poor teams.Mc Keever best player on pitch by a mile.Why didn't Armagh play with the same grit and determination in the first half as they showed in the second half? We needed a 6 point lead at half time to have a chance but never looked like getting it
Did Mark Poland not score 2 goals off him.? ???
Crossfire people can only see the good in their players but never the bad, we've had players over the years and they were fantastic going forward but were never so keen in getting back to defend. All i could hear was what a catch or what a point from so and so but you never heard the people talking about the 1-05 his man scored in the game :o
Quote from: T Fearon on February 10, 2014, 10:17:10 AM
Paddy O'Rourke's era is fast becoming a golden one! Defeating Kerry away, winning NFL Div 2, beating Derry away in the Championship, running the Dubs to three points in the Championship at Croker Park...things we can only dream about nowadays >:(
as for the Paddy O'Rourke era...we were relatively successful for a good while there and no matter who came in after that period was always on a hiding to nothing. That considering Paddy actually done quite well and I'm led to believe the players were quite fond of him too but we in Armagh couldn't get rid of him quick enough but maybe now some are realising he wasn't so bad afterall and the players we have/had are not as talented as our golden era.
As for the current management...i think it's as good as whats available out there and if we're not successful over the next 3 years it'll not be for the lack of effort or resources put in...
In my view, O'Rourke was surprisingly good. I never wanted him in the first place, but what he achieved surpassed all expectations, given the shambles we were in after 2009.
Have seen little or no sign of any progress since his departure whatsoever, indeed more evidence to suggest we're regressing.
Quote from: illdecide on February 10, 2014, 03:02:55 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 10, 2014, 10:17:10 AM
Paddy O'Rourke's era is fast becoming a golden one! Defeating Kerry away, winning NFL Div 2, beating Derry away in the Championship, running the Dubs to three points in the Championship at Croker Park...things we can only dream about nowadays >:(
as for the Paddy O'Rourke era...we were relatively successful for a good while there and no matter who came in after that period was always on a hiding to nothing. That considering Paddy actually done quite well and I'm led to believe the players were quite fond of him too but we in Armagh couldn't get rid of him quick enough but maybe now some are realising he wasn't so bad afterall and the players we have/had are not as talented as our golden era.
As for the current management...i think it's as good as whats available out there and if we're not successful over the next 3 years it'll not be for the lack of effort or resources put in...
But that is not true and there was a person available and ready who was overlooked who many in the stands wanted in the job.
Look BC...your not getting the job and thats it... ;)
Quote from: illdecide on February 10, 2014, 04:13:16 PM
Look BC...your not getting the job and thats it... ;)
I'm quite happy with not getting mixed up in that yet!!
QuoteI'm quite happy with not getting mixed up in that yet!!
When then?
As to the present setup, Omagh and Drogheda weren't very encouraging, the Down game was an improvement, if this direction of improvement is continued then perhaps it will not be a disaster. But in recent years no continuous line of improvement can be seen in Armagh, anything good seems to disappear in subsequent outings.
Quote from: illdecide on February 10, 2014, 02:58:10 PM
Quote from: crossfire on February 10, 2014, 12:54:10 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 07, 2014, 11:21:29 PM
Two poor teams.Mc Keever best player on pitch by a mile.Why didn't Armagh play with the same grit and determination in the first half as they showed in the second half? We needed a 6 point lead at half time to have a chance but never looked like getting it
Did Mark Poland not score 2 goals off him.? ???
Crossfire people can only see the good in their players but never the bad, we've had players over the years and they were fantastic going forward but were never so keen in getting back to defend. All i could hear was what a catch or what a point from so and so but you never heard the people talking about the 1-05 his man scored in the game :o
Not too often you and me agree on something. :)