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Title: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 16, 2013, 08:36:18 AM
Another county with financial issues.

Galway county board may be forced to sell some of its assets in order to repay debts of nearly €4 million.

County secretary John Hynes made the stark admission at Thursday night's annual convention in Claregalway. The decision to spend €2.8 million on a site near Athenry for the purpose of developing a hurling Centre of Excellence during the Celtic Tiger years, coupled with outstanding debts on Pearse Stadium and the football Centre of Excellence in Loughgeorge, has left the board €3.9 million in the red.

"Our annual repayment on loans is €271,000. To help manage and sustain our repayments, we will need to dispose of some asset and we will need to increase our utilisation of our other assets," Hynes said.

"A review of our 2013 revenue and costs shows clearly that an increased focus on cost reduction and cost avoidance is needed. We have no option but to 'cut our cloth to measure' to ensure that we can sustain our activities and remain self-sufficient in the future.

"In evaluating where we spend, and what we spend, value for money needs to be a key consideration in all of our decisions and, if necessary, difficult decisions should be made to ensure that we get a return on all of our investments."
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Rossfan on December 16, 2013, 12:53:07 PM
Between themselves and our other neighbours there's some amount of debt there.
Maybe the FRC could set up an "Indebted " Province and stick them into it  ;D
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Tubberman on December 16, 2013, 01:10:08 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 16, 2013, 12:53:07 PM
Between themselves and our other neighbours there's some amount of debt there.
Maybe the FRC could set up an "Indebted " Province and stick them into it  ;D

We haven't ended up in the humiliating situation that the sorrowful Rossies found themselves in a few years ago:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/gaa-curb-roscommons-freedom-to-write-cheques-as-debt-spirals-25985747.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/gaa-curb-roscommons-freedom-to-write-cheques-as-debt-spirals-25985747.html)
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 16, 2013, 01:15:50 PM
75% of the debt is down to the land deal out in Athenry for the hurling centre of excellence. Which they never even got built. And of course purchased during the celtic tiger years. I'm guessing that is one of the assets they are looking to sell. Probably for a huge loss now.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Syferus on December 16, 2013, 01:24:32 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on December 16, 2013, 01:10:08 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 16, 2013, 12:53:07 PM
Between themselves and our other neighbours there's some amount of debt there.
Maybe the FRC could set up an "Indebted " Province and stick them into it  ;D

We haven't ended up in the humiliating situation that the sorrowful Rossies found themselves in a few years ago:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/gaa-curb-roscommons-freedom-to-write-cheques-as-debt-spirals-25985747.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/gaa-curb-roscommons-freedom-to-write-cheques-as-debt-spirals-25985747.html)

Given you've still got Buckley on the payroll and your ladeens are off to Dubai next month - AI finalist trip or not, I doubt they're going over there for sight-seeing and the GAA won't be covering those activities. Mayo's ship wreck is fast approaching. No one knows where all this money is coming from.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Rossfan on December 16, 2013, 02:06:23 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 16, 2013, 01:24:32 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on December 16, 2013, 01:10:08 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 16, 2013, 12:53:07 PM
Between themselves and our other neighbours there's some amount of debt there.
Maybe the FRC could set up an "Indebted " Province and stick them into it  ;D

We haven't ended up in the humiliating situation that the sorrowful Rossies found themselves in a few years ago:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/gaa-curb-roscommons-freedom-to-write-cheques-as-debt-spirals-25985747.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/gaa-curb-roscommons-freedom-to-write-cheques-as-debt-spirals-25985747.html)

Given you've still got Buckley on the payroll and your ladeen are off to Dubai next month - AI finalist trip or no, I doubt they're going over there for sight-seeing and the GAA won't be covering those activities. Mayo's ship wreck is fast approaching. No one knows where all this money is coming from.
Hope it's not coming from the rest of Connacht  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: larryin89 on December 16, 2013, 02:49:36 PM
"Mayos shipwreck is fast approaching " Wishful thinking on your behalf .

Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: seafoid on December 16, 2013, 04:21:47 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 16, 2013, 01:15:50 PM
75% of the debt is down to the land deal out in Athenry for the hurling centre of excellence. Which they never even got built. And of course purchased during the celtic tiger years. I'm guessing that is one of the assets they are looking to sell. Probably for a huge loss now.
It's not as bad as Kildare though ...
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 16, 2013, 05:15:48 PM
How much in debt are Kildare and Mayo?
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on December 16, 2013, 06:01:55 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 16, 2013, 05:15:48 PM
How much in debt are Kildare and Mayo?

Slightly over €2 million at the last count.

Approx €700,000 cash deficit which was covered by a loan from Croke Park, repayments to stretch over the next 5 years.

The rest is long term debt on the Hawkfield complex which is paid off by an annual levy on every GAA club in the county.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Rossfan on December 16, 2013, 06:42:34 PM
Aren't Mayowestros about €10 MILLION in debt?
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Tubberman on December 16, 2013, 06:48:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 16, 2013, 06:42:34 PM
Aren't Mayowestros about €10 in debt?


That's great news. They got rid of that debt on the stand quicker than I thought.
f**k it, seeing as it's Christmas, I'll pay off the remaining tenner for them.
We're back in the black!
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Syferus on December 16, 2013, 06:53:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 16, 2013, 06:42:34 PM
Aren't Mayowestros about €10 in debt?

Where's all the Bekan gone?  >:(
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: seafoid on December 16, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on December 16, 2013, 06:01:55 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 16, 2013, 05:15:48 PM
How much in debt are Kildare and Mayo?

Slightly over €2 million at the last count.

Approx €700,000 cash deficit which was covered by a loan from Croke Park, repayments to stretch over the next 5 years.

The rest is long term debt on the Hawkfield complex which is paid off by an annual levy on every GAA club in the county.
Lilystan doesn't have a county standard pitch.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: larryin89 on December 16, 2013, 07:17:32 PM
But if your debt is manageable , ie paying off your bank loans every year whilst still recording a surplus ,surely that's a healthy state to be in.

I'm honestly lost here about this " Mayo are in trouble " stuff .

http://clubfiftyone.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/mayo-gaa-accounts-2013.xls
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Rossfan on December 16, 2013, 07:20:47 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on December 16, 2013, 06:48:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 16, 2013, 06:42:34 PM
Aren't Mayowestros about €10 in debt?


That's great news. They got rid of that debt on the stand quicker than I thought.
f**k it, seeing as it's Christmas, I'll pay off the remaining tenner for them.
We're back in the black!
:-[ modified to add the missing millions  ;D. Hope that wasn't any of ye're cash that was found in Limerick th'other day.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Syferus on December 16, 2013, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 16, 2013, 07:17:32 PM
But if your debt is manageable , ie paying off your bank loans every year whilst still recording a surplus ,surely that's a healthy state to be in.

I'm honestly lost here about this " Mayo are in trouble " stuff .

http://clubfiftyone.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/mayo-gaa-accounts-2013.xls

Are you really, really, really using accounts off the back of two runs to the AI final, as well as a NFL final and one NFL semi, as the baseline for Mayo's ability to service its debt?

You're in for a hard landing, Larryin.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: larryin89 on December 16, 2013, 07:42:04 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 16, 2013, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 16, 2013, 07:17:32 PM
But if your debt is manageable , ie paying off your bank loans every year whilst still recording a surplus ,surely that's a healthy state to be in.

I'm honestly lost here about this " Mayo are in trouble " stuff .

http://clubfiftyone.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/mayo-gaa-accounts-2013.xls

Are you really, really, really using accounts off the back of two runs to the AI final, as well as a NFL final and one NFL semi, as the baseline for Mayo's ability to service its debt?

You're in for a hard landing, Larryin.

Well me aul comrade, it is going to make for a lot better reading when we land a couple of all Ireland wins over the next couple of seasons. 

Joking aside though , Mayo are going nowhere , it is amazing how a county who have lost two finals on the trot and the air of anticipation for 2014 is better than ever . Castlebar to get the show on the road with a win over crokes followed by a big win in 21 Champo v the Rossie and we will be all set to roll up the sleeves for the big one .

Galway debt is frightening because they have no option to sell off an asset that is the difference. At least they can aim  for a big day out at the Mecca of Connacht football this year in July.if only to sit there with fly catcher mouths in admiration of the green and red machine.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: sans pessimism on December 16, 2013, 08:04:15 PM
Thank God we don't have to worry about our debt....the Sheepstealers on here are doin enough
for everyone!!.Mind you they probably can't afford a dozer to raze that eyesore on the Athlone rd
to the ground.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 16, 2013, 08:08:07 PM
Are Tyrone not 2 million in debt after building Garvaghey??
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 16, 2013, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 16, 2013, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 16, 2013, 07:17:32 PM
But if your debt is manageable , ie paying off your bank loans every year whilst still recording a surplus ,surely that's a healthy state to be in.

I'm honestly lost here about this " Mayo are in trouble " stuff .

http://clubfiftyone.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/mayo-gaa-accounts-2013.xls

Are you really, really, really using accounts off the back of two runs to the AI final, as well as a NFL final and one NFL semi, as the baseline for Mayo's ability to service its debt?

You're in for a hard landing, Larryin.

It is ok, we are not Roscommon, getting to Senior All-Ireland and National Football League Finals are all in a days work for the glorious green and red.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 16, 2013, 08:17:20 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 16, 2013, 07:42:04 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 16, 2013, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 16, 2013, 07:17:32 PM
But if your debt is manageable , ie paying off your bank loans every year whilst still recording a surplus ,surely that's a healthy state to be in.

I'm honestly lost here about this " Mayo are in trouble " stuff .

http://clubfiftyone.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/mayo-gaa-accounts-2013.xls

Are you really, really, really using accounts off the back of two runs to the AI final, as well as a NFL final and one NFL semi, as the baseline for Mayo's ability to service its debt?

You're in for a hard landing, Larryin.

Well me aul comrade, it is going to make for a lot better reading when we land a couple of all Ireland wins over the next couple of seasons. 

Joking aside though , Mayo are going nowhere , it is amazing how a county who have lost two finals on the trot and the air of anticipation for 2014 is better than ever . Castlebar to get the show on the road with a win over crokes followed by a big win in 21 Champo v the Rossie and we will be all set to roll up the sleeves for the big one .

Galway debt is frightening because they have no option to sell off an asset that is the difference. At least they can aim  for a big day out at the Mecca of Connacht football this year in July.if only to sit there with fly catcher mouths in admiration of the green and red machine.

Mayo football is great isn't it  8)
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: seafoid on December 16, 2013, 08:43:46 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 16, 2013, 07:42:04 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 16, 2013, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 16, 2013, 07:17:32 PM
But if your debt is manageable , ie paying off your bank loans every year whilst still recording a surplus ,surely that's a healthy state to be in.

I'm honestly lost here about this " Mayo are in trouble " stuff .

http://clubfiftyone.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/mayo-gaa-accounts-2013.xls

Are you really, really, really using accounts off the back of two runs to the AI final, as well as a NFL final and one NFL semi, as the baseline for Mayo's ability to service its debt?

You're in for a hard landing, Larryin.

Well me aul comrade, it is going to make for a lot better reading when we land a couple of all Ireland wins over the next couple of seasons. 

Joking aside though , Mayo are going nowhere , it is amazing how a county who have lost two finals on the trot and the air of anticipation for 2014 is better than ever . Castlebar to get the show on the road with a win over crokes followed by a big win in 21 Champo v the Rossie and we will be all set to roll up the sleeves for the big one .

Galway debt is frightening because they have no option to sell off an asset that is the difference. At least they can aim  for a big day out at the Mecca of Connacht football this year in July.if only to sit there with fly catcher mouths in admiration of the green and red machine.
They should sell Pearse stadium to Kildare for 10m and go back to Tuam and Ballinasloe for the intercounty matches.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 16, 2013, 09:16:04 PM
If Kildare, Mayo and Galway are in such dire straits money wise, should they not be trying their best to reduce this even if it means no outside manager, reduced senior team cost for fball and hurling, no more crazy  spending / centres of excellence. In derry we were complaining we were about 26/27th in Ireland on the spending costs for the senior team 2 yrs ago but is that not better than ending up a county bail out. Do county boards learn nothing from the way banks behaved instead of trying to follow their crazy behaviour.Only Dublin and to a extent  Cork has the capability of producing a turn over to run senior teams at a professional standard
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Tubberman on December 16, 2013, 09:27:00 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on December 16, 2013, 09:16:04 PM
If Kildare, Mayo and Galway are in suck dire straits money wise, should they not be trying their best to reduce this even if it means no outside manager, reduced senior team cost for fball and hurling, no more crazy  spending / centres of excellence. In derry we were complaining we were about 26/27th in Ireland on the spending costs for the senior team 2 yrs ago but is that not better than ending up a county bail out. Do county boards learn nothing from the way banks behaved instead of trying to follow their crazy behaviour.Only Dublin and to a extent  Cork has the capability of producing a turn over to run senior teams at a professional standard

Mayo CB have taken in (marginally) more than they've spent in the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: armaghniac on December 16, 2013, 09:36:42 PM
QuoteIn derry we were complaining we were about 26/27th in Ireland on the spending costs for the senior team 2 yrs ago but is that not better than ending up a county bail out.

If every Derry man attending chipped in a fiver, you'd reach a three figure sum in no time.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 16, 2013, 10:12:14 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 16, 2013, 07:42:04 PM
Galway debt is frightening because they have no option to sell off an asset that is the difference. At least they can aim  for a big day out at the Mecca of Connacht football this year in July.if only to sit there with fly catcher mouths in admiration of the green and red machine.

Isn't most of Galways debt from their assets just like Mayo and if results were swapped between the two counties would that mean Mayo would have to sell their assets?
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: T Fearon on December 16, 2013, 11:33:51 PM
Is there any County not in debt? Scandalous situation with the GAA recording recording breaking crowds and income from ticket sales.Far too many employed staff in this "amateur" organisation.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: rosnarun on December 17, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
more like far too many stadiums built to massage the ego of county boards trying to leave a legacy.
I all the western counties just realized that Castle bar was the most appropriate Ground and paid their fair share into that instead of trying to build they're own half Stadiums. we could build on proper one.
And i think they Mayo debt is €13 million Euro?

on a  sidenote surely the comment from the treasuer at the convention should raise More alarm Bells that cost a stand
Quotehe confirmed there were 'no payments' made in grants and subscriptions to Cumann na mBunscol, Mayo Colleges, Mayo Vocational Schools, Mayo Colleges, the promotion of Irish or Mayo Scór in the last year. This prompted a question from post-primary representative John Horan, who asked: "If clubs are levied [for schools], surely that should be passed on?"

Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Lar Naparka on December 17, 2013, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 16, 2013, 07:20:47 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on December 16, 2013, 06:48:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 16, 2013, 06:42:34 PM
Aren't Mayowestros about €10 in debt?


That's great news. They got rid of that debt on the stand quicker than I thought.
f**k it, seeing as it's Christmas, I'll pay off the remaining tenner for them.
We're back in the black!
:-[ modified to add the missing millions  ;D. Hope that wasn't any of ye're cash that was found in Limerick th'other day.
Ah now, howld on, me oul' buddy; people in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones. ;D
It's not that long ago since yer own county board was arse deep in the doo doo for their creative accounting policies.
Going by the state of Hyde Park, they're still not back on the straight and narrow path of financial rectitude either. Surely to God, those of ye that talk the talk should walk the walk and chip in a few euro to smarten that sheep pen up a bit?
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: tyronefan on December 17, 2013, 01:37:57 PM
This is class. It doesn't matter that we are screwed as long as the neighbours are in worst shape.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: larryin89 on December 17, 2013, 03:00:44 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 16, 2013, 10:12:14 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 16, 2013, 07:42:04 PM
Galway debt is frightening because they have no option to sell off an asset that is the difference. At least they can aim  for a big day out at the Mecca of Connacht football this year in July.if only to sit there with fly catcher mouths in admiration of the green and red machine.

Isn't most of Galways debt from their assets just like Mayo and if results were swapped between the two counties would that mean Mayo would have to sell their assets?

Erm ok but not sure how we can go about this swapping results malarkey.

Mayo are all cull a bulla , plenty of cash been thrown at Mayo and more to come, win the all Ireland and we will be the man city/ Real Madrid/ Chelsea all rolled into one of the gaa world .

Instead of worrying about a non existent problem Mayo have , maybe the aul Rossies and fancy dans should concentrate on the fact Mayo could steam roll Connacht with our " b" team.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Denn Forever on December 17, 2013, 03:01:55 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 16, 2013, 11:33:51 PM
Is there any County not in debt? Scandalous situation with the GAA recording recording breaking crowds and income from ticket sales.Far too many employed staff in this "amateur" organisation.

Not Cavan but it may be creative accounting.  It's for all County teams as well.



Cavan splashed out €503,351 on their county footballers this year.

Delegates at tonight's annual convention in the Kilmore Hotel will hear how expenditure on county teams is up nearly €13,000 from €490,370 in 2012 to €503,351 this year. The rise can be attributed to the Breffni County's extended championship run which saw them qualify for the All-Ireland SFC quarter-finals for the first time.

Despite the bigger outlay in team expenses, the board still posted a profit of €20,686, down from €38,158 last year.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 03:05:08 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on December 17, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
more like far too many stadiums built to massage the ego of county boards trying to leave a legacy.
I all the western counties just realized that Castle bar was the most appropriate Ground and paid their fair share into that instead of trying to build they're own half Stadiums. we could build on proper one.
And i think they Mayo debt is €13 million Euro?

on a  sidenote surely the comment from the treasuer at the convention should raise More alarm Bells that cost a stand
Quotehe confirmed there were 'no payments' made in grants and subscriptions to Cumann na mBunscol, Mayo Colleges, Mayo Vocational Schools, Mayo Colleges, the promotion of Irish or Mayo Scór in the last year. This prompted a question from post-primary representative John Horan, who asked: "If clubs are levied [for schools], surely that should be passed on?"

Pearse is a better designed stadium and Castlebar is a terrible location for an All-Connacht ground. Good insight into why Mayo built such a huge white elephant, though!
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 17, 2013, 05:14:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 03:05:08 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on December 17, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
more like far too many stadiums built to massage the ego of county boards trying to leave a legacy.
I all the western counties just realized that Castle bar was the most appropriate Ground and paid their fair share into that instead of trying to build they're own half Stadiums. we could build on proper one.
And i think they Mayo debt is €13 million Euro?

on a  sidenote surely the comment from the treasuer at the convention should raise More alarm Bells that cost a stand
Quotehe confirmed there were 'no payments' made in grants and subscriptions to Cumann na mBunscol, Mayo Colleges, Mayo Vocational Schools, Mayo Colleges, the promotion of Irish or Mayo Scór in the last year. This prompted a question from post-primary representative John Horan, who asked: "If clubs are levied [for schools], surely that should be passed on?"

Pearse is a better designed stadium and Castlebar is a terrible location for an All-Connacht ground. Good insight into why Mayo built such a huge white elephant, though!

McHale Park is a great location for the County which needs to play the most semis and finals in Connacht, ie Mayo. How is Pearse the wind tunnel better than the true home of Gaelic Games in Connacht.

I agree, it is really unfair that other Connacht counties do not help pay for Connacht's only stadium to be among Europe's 100 grandest (number 87) and Ireland's second biggest All-Seater. A burden borne by Mayo and the great Castlebar Mitchels before that. On that note it is great to see such a visionary aristocratic club like Castlebar Mitchels back in the big time, the Club that built most of McHale Park.

Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Lar Naparka on December 17, 2013, 07:12:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 03:05:08 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on December 17, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
more like far too many stadiums built to massage the ego of county boards trying to leave a legacy.
I all the western counties just realized that Castle bar was the most appropriate Ground and paid their fair share into that instead of trying to build they're own half Stadiums. we could build on proper one.
And i think they Mayo debt is €13 million Euro?

on a  sidenote surely the comment from the treasuer at the convention should raise More alarm Bells that cost a stand
Quotehe confirmed there were 'no payments' made in grants and subscriptions to Cumann na mBunscol, Mayo Colleges, Mayo Vocational Schools, Mayo Colleges, the promotion of Irish or Mayo Scór in the last year. This prompted a question from post-primary representative John Horan, who asked: "If clubs are levied [for schools], surely that should be passed on?"

Pearse is a better designed stadium and Castlebar is a terrible location for an All-Connacht ground. Good insight into why Mayo built such a huge white elephant, though!
Pearse, aka The Wind Tunnel, is a nightmare to get in and out of. Unless one's coming from the Carna direction, it's a case of bumper to bumper traffic for the last five miles or so. On a good summer Sunday, you can double that figure.
By comparison, McHale is a ten minute walk from the railway station, unlike Galway where Ceannt Station is on the other side of the city.
If you go McHJale by road, you are spoiled for choice. The N5, N60 or the N84 will all bring you to one end or the other of McHale Road. Now, you lot got the chance to have Hyde Park developed as the Connacht Final venue and need I remind you of how your CB frigged that up? ;D
No matter which way you look at it, it's got to be McHale for Connacht Finals from here on.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Rossfan on December 17, 2013, 08:08:27 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 17, 2013, 07:12:30 PM
No matter which way you look at it, it's got to be McHale for Connacht Finals from here on.
Mr. Prenty - we know that's been your aim for the last few years ;)
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 17, 2013, 07:12:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 03:05:08 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on December 17, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
more like far too many stadiums built to massage the ego of county boards trying to leave a legacy.
I all the western counties just realized that Castle bar was the most appropriate Ground and paid their fair share into that instead of trying to build they're own half Stadiums. we could build on proper one.
And i think they Mayo debt is €13 million Euro?

on a  sidenote surely the comment from the treasuer at the convention should raise More alarm Bells that cost a stand
Quotehe confirmed there were 'no payments' made in grants and subscriptions to Cumann na mBunscol, Mayo Colleges, Mayo Vocational Schools, Mayo Colleges, the promotion of Irish or Mayo Scór in the last year. This prompted a question from post-primary representative John Horan, who asked: "If clubs are levied [for schools], surely that should be passed on?"

Pearse is a better designed stadium and Castlebar is a terrible location for an All-Connacht ground. Good insight into why Mayo built such a huge white elephant, though!
Pearse, aka The Wind Tunnel, is a nightmare to get in and out of. Unless one's coming from the Carna direction, it's a case of bumper to bumper traffic for the last five miles or so. On a good summer Sunday, you can double that figure.
By comparison, McHale is a ten minute walk from the railway station, unlike Galway where Ceannt Station is on the other side of the city.
If you go McHJale by road, you are spoiled for choice. The N5, N60 or the N84 will all bring you to one end or the other of McHale Road. Now, you lot got the chance to have Hyde Park developed as the Connacht Final venue and need I remind you of how your CB frigged that up? ;D
No matter which way you look at it, it's got to be McHale for Connacht Finals from here on.

Roscommon will choose Pearse every damn time we meet Mayo in the final until the Hyde is revamped.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 17, 2013, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 17, 2013, 07:12:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 03:05:08 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on December 17, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
more like far too many stadiums built to massage the ego of county boards trying to leave a legacy.
I all the western counties just realized that Castle bar was the most appropriate Ground and paid their fair share into that instead of trying to build they're own half Stadiums. we could build on proper one.
And i think they Mayo debt is €13 million Euro?

on a  sidenote surely the comment from the treasuer at the convention should raise More alarm Bells that cost a stand
Quotehe confirmed there were 'no payments' made in grants and subscriptions to Cumann na mBunscol, Mayo Colleges, Mayo Vocational Schools, Mayo Colleges, the promotion of Irish or Mayo Scór in the last year. This prompted a question from post-primary representative John Horan, who asked: "If clubs are levied [for schools], surely that should be passed on?"

Pearse is a better designed stadium and Castlebar is a terrible location for an All-Connacht ground. Good insight into why Mayo built such a huge white elephant, though!
Pearse, aka The Wind Tunnel, is a nightmare to get in and out of. Unless one's coming from the Carna direction, it's a case of bumper to bumper traffic for the last five miles or so. On a good summer Sunday, you can double that figure.
By comparison, McHale is a ten minute walk from the railway station, unlike Galway where Ceannt Station is on the other side of the city.
If you go McHJale by road, you are spoiled for choice. The N5, N60 or the N84 will all bring you to one end or the other of McHale Road. Now, you lot got the chance to have Hyde Park developed as the Connacht Final venue and need I remind you of how your CB frigged that up? ;D
No matter which way you look at it, it's got to be McHale for Connacht Finals from here on.

Roscommon will choose Pearse every damn time we meet Mayo in the final until the Hyde is revamped.

The Hyde has the same future as Tuam Stadium. It might get Roscommon club matches.

You need to live in the real world, McHale Park really has to be used in the same way as Croke Park is in Leinster.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 17, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 17, 2013, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 17, 2013, 07:12:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 03:05:08 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on December 17, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
more like far too many stadiums built to massage the ego of county boards trying to leave a legacy.
I all the western counties just realized that Castle bar was the most appropriate Ground and paid their fair share into that instead of trying to build they're own half Stadiums. we could build on proper one.
And i think they Mayo debt is €13 million Euro?

on a  sidenote surely the comment from the treasuer at the convention should raise More alarm Bells that cost a stand
Quotehe confirmed there were 'no payments' made in grants and subscriptions to Cumann na mBunscol, Mayo Colleges, Mayo Vocational Schools, Mayo Colleges, the promotion of Irish or Mayo Scór in the last year. This prompted a question from post-primary representative John Horan, who asked: "If clubs are levied [for schools], surely that should be passed on?"

Pearse is a better designed stadium and Castlebar is a terrible location for an All-Connacht ground. Good insight into why Mayo built such a huge white elephant, though!
Pearse, aka The Wind Tunnel, is a nightmare to get in and out of. Unless one's coming from the Carna direction, it's a case of bumper to bumper traffic for the last five miles or so. On a good summer Sunday, you can double that figure.
By comparison, McHale is a ten minute walk from the railway station, unlike Galway where Ceannt Station is on the other side of the city.
If you go McHJale by road, you are spoiled for choice. The N5, N60 or the N84 will all bring you to one end or the other of McHale Road. Now, you lot got the chance to have Hyde Park developed as the Connacht Final venue and need I remind you of how your CB frigged that up? ;D
No matter which way you look at it, it's got to be McHale for Connacht Finals from here on.

Roscommon will choose Pearse every damn time we meet Mayo in the final until the Hyde is revamped.

The Hyde has the same future as Tuam Stadium. It might get Roscommon club matches.

You need to live in the real world, McHale Park really has to be used in the same way as Croke Park is in Leinster.

McHale Park is no Croke Park and it certainly won't be used like one.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 17, 2013, 08:46:32 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 17, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 17, 2013, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 17, 2013, 07:12:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 03:05:08 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on December 17, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
more like far too many stadiums built to massage the ego of county boards trying to leave a legacy.
I all the western counties just realized that Castle bar was the most appropriate Ground and paid their fair share into that instead of trying to build they're own half Stadiums. we could build on proper one.
And i think they Mayo debt is €13 million Euro?

on a  sidenote surely the comment from the treasuer at the convention should raise More alarm Bells that cost a stand
Quotehe confirmed there were 'no payments' made in grants and subscriptions to Cumann na mBunscol, Mayo Colleges, Mayo Vocational Schools, Mayo Colleges, the promotion of Irish or Mayo Scór in the last year. This prompted a question from post-primary representative John Horan, who asked: "If clubs are levied [for schools], surely that should be passed on?"

Pearse is a better designed stadium and Castlebar is a terrible location for an All-Connacht ground. Good insight into why Mayo built such a huge white elephant, though!
Pearse, aka The Wind Tunnel, is a nightmare to get in and out of. Unless one's coming from the Carna direction, it's a case of bumper to bumper traffic for the last five miles or so. On a good summer Sunday, you can double that figure.
By comparison, McHale is a ten minute walk from the railway station, unlike Galway where Ceannt Station is on the other side of the city.
If you go McHJale by road, you are spoiled for choice. The N5, N60 or the N84 will all bring you to one end or the other of McHale Road. Now, you lot got the chance to have Hyde Park developed as the Connacht Final venue and need I remind you of how your CB frigged that up? ;D
No matter which way you look at it, it's got to be McHale for Connacht Finals from here on.

Roscommon will choose Pearse every damn time we meet Mayo in the final until the Hyde is revamped.

The Hyde has the same future as Tuam Stadium. It might get Roscommon club matches.

You need to live in the real world, McHale Park really has to be used in the same way as Croke Park is in Leinster.

McHale Park is no Croke Park and it certainly won't be used like one.

Fine big pitch for you lads to play your hurling in Castlebar  ;)
It's not like ye play your hurling in your own province, I shouldn't see a problem with Galway playing their home games in another county  ;D
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Lar Naparka on December 17, 2013, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 17, 2013, 07:12:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2013, 03:05:08 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on December 17, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
more like far too many stadiums built to massage the ego of county boards trying to leave a legacy.
I all the western counties just realized that Castle bar was the most appropriate Ground and paid their fair share into that instead of trying to build they're own half Stadiums. we could build on proper one.
And i think they Mayo debt is €13 million Euro?

on a  sidenote surely the comment from the treasuer at the convention should raise More alarm Bells that cost a stand
Quotehe confirmed there were 'no payments' made in grants and subscriptions to Cumann na mBunscol, Mayo Colleges, Mayo Vocational Schools, Mayo Colleges, the promotion of Irish or Mayo Scór in the last year. This prompted a question from post-primary representative John Horan, who asked: "If clubs are levied [for schools], surely that should be passed on?"

Pearse is a better designed stadium and Castlebar is a terrible location for an All-Connacht ground. Good insight into why Mayo built such a huge white elephant, though!
Pearse, aka The Wind Tunnel, is a nightmare to get in and out of. Unless one's coming from the Carna direction, it's a case of bumper to bumper traffic for the last five miles or so. On a good summer Sunday, you can double that figure.
By comparison, McHale is a ten minute walk from the railway station, unlike Galway where Ceannt Station is on the other side of the city.
If you go McHJale by road, you are spoiled for choice. The N5, N60 or the N84 will all bring you to one end or the other of McHale Road. Now, you lot got the chance to have Hyde Park developed as the Connacht Final venue and need I remind you of how your CB frigged that up? ;D
No matter which way you look at it, it's got to be McHale for Connacht Finals from here on.

Roscommon will choose Pearse every damn time we meet Mayo in the final until the Hyde is revamped.

Wha'?
Talk about being farsighted!
At the rate ye are going about doing up that dump, it'll be about the middle of the next millennium  before the place is fit to stage a draughts match, let alone a Connacht final.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: weareros on December 18, 2013, 03:29:23 AM
Mayo ye are acting like nouveau riche because ye have some sates now at McHale bought on credit.  A real Gaa supporter would never turn his nose up at having to stand in a terrace or sit his arse on a cold concrete slab. Some great games were viewed by men standing on muddy embankments on wet winter days. They never complained. They were a better breed of man too and many were your county men back in the day.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: muppet on December 18, 2013, 09:16:40 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 17, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 17, 2013, 08:29:46 PM
The Hyde has the same future as Tuam Stadium. It might get Roscommon club matches.

You need to live in the real world, McHale Park really has to be used in the same way as Croke Park is in Leinster.

McHale Park is no Croke Park and it certainly won't be used like one.

He is a green & red version of Syf and Rossfan.

I wouldn't pay much heed.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Syferus on December 18, 2013, 12:51:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 18, 2013, 09:16:40 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 17, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 17, 2013, 08:29:46 PM
The Hyde has the same future as Tuam Stadium. It might get Roscommon club matches.

You need to live in the real world, McHale Park really has to be used in the same way as Croke Park is in Leinster.

McHale Park is no Croke Park and it certainly won't be used like one.

He is a green & red version of Syf and Rossfan.

I wouldn't pay much heed.

Says the fella with a Sesame Street character dancing in his avatar.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: seafoid on December 18, 2013, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 18, 2013, 12:51:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 18, 2013, 09:16:40 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 17, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 17, 2013, 08:29:46 PM
The Hyde has the same future as Tuam Stadium. It might get Roscommon club matches.

You need to live in the real world, McHale Park really has to be used in the same way as Croke Park is in Leinster.

McHale Park is no Croke Park and it certainly won't be used like one.

He is a green & red version of Syf and Rossfan.

I wouldn't pay much heed.

Says the fella with a Sesame Street character dancing in his avatar.
when you're older you'll understand irony, Syf.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Syferus on December 18, 2013, 01:41:29 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 18, 2013, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 18, 2013, 12:51:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 18, 2013, 09:16:40 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 17, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 17, 2013, 08:29:46 PM
The Hyde has the same future as Tuam Stadium. It might get Roscommon club matches.

You need to live in the real world, McHale Park really has to be used in the same way as Croke Park is in Leinster.

McHale Park is no Croke Park and it certainly won't be used like one.

He is a green & red version of Syf and Rossfan.

I wouldn't pay much heed.

Says the fella with a Sesame Street character dancing in his avatar.
when you're older you'll understand irony, Syf.

(http://s2.thejournal.ie/media/2013/06/enda-kenny-mayo-gaa.jpg)

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Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: rosnarun on December 18, 2013, 02:01:42 PM
Quote from: weareros on December 18, 2013, 03:29:23 AM
Mayo ye are acting like nouveau riche because ye have some sates now at McHale bought on credit.  A real Gaa supporter would never turn his nose up at having to stand in a terrace or sit his arse on a cold concrete slab. Some great games were viewed by men standing on muddy embankments on wet winter days. They never complained. They were a better breed of man too and many were your county men back in the day.
This is true Neither of them complained
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: ross4life on December 18, 2013, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 17, 2013, 08:08:27 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 17, 2013, 07:12:30 PM
No matter which way you look at it, it's got to be McHale for Connacht Finals from here on.
Mr. Prenty - we know that's been your aim for the last few years ;)

Mr Prenty also brought the rule in during the early 90s that any provincial final involving Sligo or Leitrim who don't have grounds big enough to host finals would have their finals played at a neutral ground. So while we all wait on development of Hyde park Connacht finals in the next few years would have be played in..

Mayo v Roscommon,Sligo or Letrim - Pearse stadium
Galway v Roscommon,Sligo or Leitrim - MacHale park
Roscommon v Sligo or Leitrim - Pearse or MacHale
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: sans pessimism on December 18, 2013, 06:19:34 PM
Quote from: weareros on December 18, 2013, 03:29:23 AM
Mayo ye are acting like nouveau riche because ye have some sates now at McHale bought on credit.  A real Gaa supporter would never turn his nose up at having to stand in a terrace or sit his arse on a cold concrete slab. Some great games were viewed by men standing on muddy embankments on wet winter days. They never complained. They were a better breed of man too and many were your county men back in the day.
Ah yeah when men were men.Raw maate  for breakfast, clubbin wimen to find a missus,not to mention  wrestlin dinosaurs on the Sabbath......
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Lar Naparka on December 18, 2013, 07:22:33 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 18, 2013, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 17, 2013, 08:08:27 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 17, 2013, 07:12:30 PM
No matter which way you look at it, it's got to be McHale for Connacht Finals from here on.
Mr. Prenty - we know that's been your aim for the last few years ;)

Mr Prenty also brought the rule in during the early 90s that any provincial final involving Sligo or Leitrim who don't have grounds big enough to host finals would have their finals played at a neutral ground. So while we all wait on development of Hyde park Connacht finals in the next few years would have be played in..

Mayo v Roscommon,Sligo or Letrim - Pearse stadium
Galway v Roscommon,Sligo or Leitrim - MacHale park
Roscommon v Sligo or Leitrim - Pearse or MacHale
I think the 'home' side as it were, has a say in deciding where the final should be played.
In 2012 for instance when Sligo played Mayo, it was left to their CB to select a venue.
Apparently, since the last championship clash between the two had been in Castlebar, Sligo now could make the decision.
If you recall, there was a big element of farce as the rumours flew.
It seems the Connacht Council made an offer to Sligo offering a financial inducement to let the game be played in McHale Park.
Pearse was too far away to suit the supporters of both counties and the Hyde was deemed unsuitable because of its dilapidated condition.
Eventually, the game went ahead in the Hyde and nobody seemed the worse  for wear as a result.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: ross4life on December 18, 2013, 07:42:47 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 18, 2013, 07:22:33 PM

I think the ‘home’ side as it were, has a say in deciding where the final should be played.
In 2012 for instance when Sligo played Mayo, it was left to their CB to select a venue.
Apparently, since the last championship clash between the two had been in Castlebar, Sligo now could make the decision.
If you recall, there was a big element of farce as the rumours flew.
It seems the Connacht Council made an offer to Sligo offering a financial inducement to let the game be played in McHale Park.
Pearse was too far away to suit the supporters of both counties and the Hyde was deemed unsuitable because of its dilapidated condition.
Eventually, the game went ahead in the Hyde and nobody seemed the worse  for wear as a result.
The home side gets the pick on the neutral venue.

The rumours were untrue pure paper or online talk, as per the CC meeting at the time Castlebar was never in the running for 2012 final the only options was Pearse & Hyde Park. If Leitrim had beaten London the Connacht final would have been played in Salthill this summer. No rule in place for London so Prenty was able to able get the final in MacHale park last July.

Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: larryin89 on December 19, 2013, 02:22:53 AM
The final will be in McHale park this year anyways , Mayo v fancy dans final is a shoe in.


Just a quick message to the WANs worried about Mayo s finances, 100 euro a ticket for Sundays bash in Westport , half a million raised so far from a man in Chicago alone. Dig deep lads and lassies , player auction on the day too.

McHale park should be the home to all Connacht finals other than Mayo v Galway as  the arrangement can be kept for that one. The minnow counties like Ross , Sligo and Leitrim should be honoured to play at McHale park , they really don't know the reality of their place in the gaa world yet.


Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: neilthemac on December 19, 2013, 09:48:41 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 19, 2013, 02:22:53 AM
Just a quick message to the WANs worried about Mayo s finances, 100 euro a ticket for Sundays bash in Westport , half a million raised so far from a man in Chicago alone. Dig deep lads and lassies , player auction on the day too.
see, plenty of silly people who still have money under the mattresses in Mayo
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 19, 2013, 07:31:17 PM
Sure Ulster could give Galway  a loan saying they getting a stadium built mostly with Govt money up north
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: T Fearon on December 20, 2013, 12:32:05 PM
Galway GAA should go into administration (like Glasgow Rangers) give up all the connacht and All Ireland Titles (unlike Glasgow Rangers) and re emerge as Galway 2014 or something
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Mayo4Sam on December 20, 2013, 01:32:05 PM
wouldnt it be funny if larryin89, mayogodhelpus and Syferus were all the same person with a personality disorder
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Rossfan on December 20, 2013, 02:17:18 PM
Don't laugh -- they probably are.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Lar Naparka on December 20, 2013, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 20, 2013, 02:17:18 PM
Don't laugh -- they probably are.
For once, you could be right!
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: muppet on January 10, 2014, 10:05:41 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on December 20, 2013, 01:32:05 PM
wouldnt it be funny if larryin89, mayogodhelpus and Syferus were all the same person with a personality disorder

Called Olly Fearon.
Title: Re: Galway GAA 4 million Euro in the red!!
Post by: Never beat the deeler on January 13, 2014, 06:55:42 AM
Quote from: muppet on January 10, 2014, 10:05:41 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on December 20, 2013, 01:32:05 PM
wouldnt it be funny if larryin89, mayogodhelpus and Syferus were all the same person with a personality disorder

Called Olly Fearon.

Mauricio: You can't come back with a comeback after eight seconds. You got three seconds. Five, tops. It's called a quip, not a sloooowwwwp.