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Jimmy made his lads go to bed without warm milk tonight.
Laois 0-8 Donegal 2-19
Maybe Longford for this one, or Kingspan?
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 21, 2013, 11:43:14 PM
Maybe Longford for this one, or Kingspan?
DR HYDE PARK. ROSCOMMON TOWN. ROSCOMMON.
Can't be playing this in Leinster and giving Laois an unfair advantage.
Wouldn't be the first time we knocked out defending All Ireland Champs if we were to bate Donegal.
We handed Tyrone back their Nordie arses on a plate back in 06
Time to let Billy out of his cage again.
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not be much in this one
Laois are complete shite.
Donegal will win by 10 points plus
The whole Kevin Cassidy incident is finally coming back around and biting Jim on the ass. License to gloat granted.
Quote from: Syferus on July 22, 2013, 12:56:29 AM
The whole Kevin Cassidy incident is finally coming back around and biting Jim on the ass. License to gloat granted.
You'll have to explain the connection between Kevin Cassidy and today's result.
It will be interesting to see how many Donegal people travel for this.
Our fans have been out in their multitudes for the good days, and would have been for the quarter final, had we won today. Will they make the effort now the team, who gave the county such a massive lift over the past two years, needs their support?
Quote from: J70 on July 22, 2013, 02:18:14 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 22, 2013, 12:56:29 AM
The whole Kevin Cassidy incident is finally coming back around and biting Jim on the ass. License to gloat granted.
You'll have to explain the connection between Kevin Cassidy and today's result.
He's not going to solve all Donegal's problems but the lack of depth in Donegal's panel was exposed badly today. Everyone was crowing last year about how Jim dropped Cassidy and Donegal didn't skip a beat but they had a remarkable run of fitness in the business end of the season. Now that some holes are starting to form the lack of one of the county's best backs is hurting them.
Would Cassidy have helped sort out the soft spine of the Donegal defence today over a clearly not match-fit Lacey, be it replacing him directly or moving Lacey to a less essential area of the field? Almost certainly.
This isn't a wail on Jimmy thing, I have huge respect for him and expect Donegal to respond to loss in typical McGuiness fashion, but it does appear to have been folly to drop such a good player from such a shallow panel and on a decision that has contributed to their loss to Monaghan.
Quote from: sam03/05 on July 22, 2013, 12:33:43 AM
Laois are complete shite.
Donegal will win by 10 points plus
No way bucko are laois shite...
this will be tight.
Quote from: gwan-ye-boy-ya on July 22, 2013, 03:44:07 AM
Quote from: sam03/05 on July 22, 2013, 12:33:43 AM
Laois are complete shite.
Donegal will win by 10 points plus
No way bucko are laois shite...
this will be tight.
People never learn. The same one's who won't give Laois a chance will probably be the same fellas who didn't give Monaghan a hope.
In saying that though you have to be realistic. Donegal are All Ireland Champions and if they play to their full potential they should have too much for Laois.
It will take a mammoth effort from Laois and I hope they give it their all because on their day Laois can be very good but unfortunately with Laois they can also decide to not turn up and I would fear for them if that happens.
Laois shouldn't be afraid of Donegal. We beat them in the league last year and were unlucky against them in league final the year before and I think we also beat them in league that year.
We have a good record in the qualifiers as well and have good momentum going into this game.
I do think Donegal will win but I wouldn't see it as the David v Goliath game that some will make it out to be.
I'd love to see Laois win this one but can't see it. They seem to hover around, impress no-one, never really make a breakthrough but yet like a bad smell, lingering, lurking...
I can see a serious sting in the Donegal tail. It seems all part of the script!
Donegal were awful yesterday. How St.Jimmy couldnt see that Lacey wasnt fit is beyond me. He was the reason Monaghan went straight down the middle time after time.
Loais by 57 points.
Donegal to drink 57 pints a man.
Probably a case of getting Lacey game time rather then not seeing he was struggling. I think Laosi have a great chance here, they are exactly the type of team that could beat a Donegal not firing on all cylinders.
Time to look for some tickets for this one 8)
The Hyde would give this game more space to breath but our second home should make for a sweet little atmosphere with its small capacity.
Quote from: laoislad on July 21, 2013, 11:46:57 PM
Wouldn't be the first time we knocked out defending All Ireland Champs if we were to bate Donegal.
We handed Tyrone back their Nordie arses on a plate back in 06
Time to let Billy out of his cage again.
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You beat the Tyrone B team by 3 points. Its hardly something to boast about.
Donegal will hardly be quaking in their boots at the thought of facing Laois this weekend.
Quote from: Syferus on July 22, 2013, 03:07:00 AM
Quote from: J70 on July 22, 2013, 02:18:14 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 22, 2013, 12:56:29 AM
The whole Kevin Cassidy incident is finally coming back around and biting Jim on the ass. License to gloat granted.
You'll have to explain the connection between Kevin Cassidy and today's result.
He's not going to solve all Donegal's problems but the lack of depth in Donegal's panel was exposed badly today. Everyone was crowing last year about how Jim dropped Cassidy and Donegal didn't skip a beat but they had a remarkable run of fitness in the business end of the season. Now that some holes are starting to form the lack of one of the county's best backs is hurting them.
Would Cassidy have helped sort out the soft spine of the Donegal defence today over a clearly not match-fit Lacey, be it replacing him directly or moving Lacey to a less essential area of the field? Almost certainly.
This isn't a wail on Jimmy thing, I have huge respect for him and expect Donegal to respond to loss in typical McGuiness fashion, but it does appear to have been folly to drop such a good player from such a shallow panel and on a decision that has contributed to their loss to Monaghan.
Maybe Cassidy would have helped, but I doubt it would have made much difference. Donegal's problems ran a lot deeper than an unfit Lacey. Plus, I've seen plenty of flat Donegal performances over the years, just like yesterday, with Cassidy in the team.
Carrick on Shannon it is lads!!!
Venue is a bit of a concern. Only holds 9k so tickets will be tight, and there is only one bus and no trains back to Dublin after the game - a bus I'll have to skip if it goes to extra time! :-X
Quote from: Conallach on July 22, 2013, 12:39:48 PM
Venue is a bit of a concern. Only holds 9k so tickets will be tight, and there is only one bus and no trains back to Dublin after the game - a bus I'll have to skip if it goes to extra time! :-X
It's only getting the game instead of the Hyde because these R4 games are merry-go-rounds and we got Kildare-Sligo last year on top of plenty of other big games.
Either they are expecting the Donegal bandwagon not to bother or they are creating a bit of a ticket shortage here.
Alot of Donegal supporters will have other plans this weekend but will be back should they reach Croke for the q/f..much the same as all counties :-)
Where do the Bus Eireann buses stop in Carrick?
Sorry lads, I've never been. :-[
Is it far from the ground?
Quote from: armaghniac on July 22, 2013, 12:52:12 PM
Either they are expecting the Donegal bandwagon not to bother or they are creating a bit of a ticket shortage here.
If few Donegal fans turn up, I will not be surprised to see another flat performance. The lads might think what's the f**king point if all the bandwagon crowd abandon them after one bad performance.
I remember 2003 when we'd lost to Fermanagh in Brewster in possibly our worst Ulster performance (to that date!) ever. First game in the qualifiers was in Ballybofey against Longford (if I remember correctly) and an enthusiastic crowd lifted the boys and they went on a run to an unlucky AI semi-final loss against Armagh. Could do with some similar support this weekend.
Quote from: 5 Sams on July 22, 2013, 12:36:18 PM
Carrick on Shannon it is lads!!!
Think there will be a great atmosphere in Páirc Seán for this one, pitch only just outside the main drag and with the ground being full/near full any sort of close match will be electric. Carrick a great town for a feed of pints.
Its hard to see who Id like to suffer more ;D
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or
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hopefully this brat
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Everyone knows this is part of Jim bobs master plan. Make the players lose the game to Monaghan, without the players actually knowing they were going to lose of course. The players will now re-focus their minds, then beat Louaioaish, enter a game against one of the top 4 (they'd have to play them sometime anyway) with all guns blazing and stroll to back to back All Irelands.
Even Donegal fans are thinking about the draw for the quarters, they don't even know who they're playing this weekend. No point heading to Carrick, games already over.
Quote from: Zulu on July 22, 2013, 10:52:46 AM
Probably a case of getting Lacey game time rather then not seeing he was struggling. I think Laosi have a great chance here, they are exactly the type of team that could beat a Donegal not firing on all cylinders.
Quote from: Bingo on July 22, 2013, 10:48:51 AM
Loais by 57 points.
Donegal to drink 57 pints a man.
Quote from: J70 on July 22, 2013, 02:18:14 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 22, 2013, 12:56:29 AM
The whole Kevin Cassidy incident is finally coming back around and biting Jim on the ass. License to gloat granted.
You'll have to explain the connection between Kevin Cassidy and today's result.
I think its more to do with the general feeling in the GAA that he hung Cassidy out to dry to an extent.
Quote from: Conallach on July 22, 2013, 12:39:48 PM
Venue is a bit of a concern. Only holds 9k so tickets will be tight, and there is only one bus and no trains back to Dublin after the game - a bus I'll have to skip if it goes to extra time! :-X
Why the small venue ?
Makes no sense.
Breffni anyone ?
Quote from: drici on July 22, 2013, 03:47:43 PM
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Gone.
I thought they were going to sort out the qualifiers where the losing team in the ulster / connacht final had more than 6 day to prepare for the next game?
Yeah, the 6 day turnaround is a pure disaster. How 6 games in connacht can take nine weeks to play is beyond me
Quote from: Conallach on July 22, 2013, 01:22:17 PM
Where do the Bus Eireann buses stop in Carrick?
Sorry lads, I've never been. :-[
Is it far from the ground?
Bus Éireann stop is just over the Bridge on the smelly side. 10 minute walk to Páirc Sheáin from there.
That ground can hold around 13,000 . Has it been "health and safetyed" down to 9k or is it just ye Ulster bucks wanting a chip on th'oul showlder ;D
Quote from: sam03/05 on July 22, 2013, 12:33:43 AM
Laois are complete shite.
Donegal will win by 10 points plus
oh really ? how did your last brash prediction go ?
Quote from: sam03/05 on July 16, 2013, 06:39:32 PM
Derry will win this easy enough.
Cavan are nothing special at all, easy draw for Derry.
Donegal will be rattled but it's worth remembering that wexford hit 16 wides on Saturday evening and only lost by 2 points
Carrick is a very poor venue choice. It's much closer to Donegal than Laois. Surely Mullingar, Croke park or even Longford would have been fairer.
Donegal by 5 points.
Quote from: ck on July 23, 2013, 12:04:20 AM
Carrick is a very poor venue choice. It's much closer to Donegal than Laois. Surely Mullingar, Croke park or even Longford would have been fairer.
Donegal by 5 points.
The Hyde, boss. You Sligo lads still haven't forgiven us for 2010.
Quote from: ck on July 23, 2013, 12:04:20 AM
Carrick is a very poor venue choice. It's much closer to Donegal than Laois. Surely Mullingar, Croke park or even Longford would have been fairer.
Donegal by 5 points.
Distance from Carrick on Shannon
Donegal Town - 118 km
Letterkenny - 165 km
Gweedore - 191 km
Carndonagh - 220 km
Portlaoise - 150 km
Durrow - 173 km
Mountmellick - 140 km
Much closer??
Quote from: ck on July 23, 2013, 12:04:20 AM
Carrick is a very poor venue choice. It's much closer to Donegal than Laois. Surely Mullingar, Croke park or even Longford would have been fairer.
Donegal by 5 points.
All leinster venues named. I dread to think how unfair you think it would be if Ulster venue was chosen.
a good game for Donegal, they are vunerable and laois may not have the power to put them away. had they got tyrone they'd be gone
Quote from: J70 on July 23, 2013, 01:44:34 AM
Quote from: ck on July 23, 2013, 12:04:20 AM
Carrick is a very poor venue choice. It's much closer to Donegal than Laois. Surely Mullingar, Croke park or even Longford would have been fairer.
Donegal by 5 points.
Distance from Carrick on Shannon
Donegal Town - 118 km
Letterkenny - 165 km
Gweedore - 191 km
Carndonagh - 220 km
Portlaoise - 150 km
Durrow - 173 km
Mountmellick - 140 km
Much closer??
Ah sure you can pull out a pile of towns to make a point if you want. The fact is that the closest part of Donegal to Carrick is much closer than the closest part of Laois. Longford or Roscommon would have been a much fairer venue for both counties!
Quote from: ck on July 23, 2013, 12:58:22 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 23, 2013, 01:44:34 AM
Quote from: ck on July 23, 2013, 12:04:20 AM
Carrick is a very poor venue choice. It's much closer to Donegal than Laois. Surely Mullingar, Croke park or even Longford would have been fairer.
Donegal by 5 points.
Distance from Carrick on Shannon
Donegal Town - 118 km
Letterkenny - 165 km
Gweedore - 191 km
Carndonagh - 220 km
Portlaoise - 150 km
Durrow - 173 km
Mountmellick - 140 km
Much closer??
Ah sure you can pull out a pile of towns to make a point if you want. The fact is that the closest part of Donegal to Carrick is much closer than the closest part of Laois. Longford or Roscommon would have been a much fairer venue for both counties!
Don't be an idiot. Donegal is a big county. Except for the relatively tiny area to the south of Donegal Town, the rest of the county is at a similar or further distance from Carrick on Shannon as the entire county of Laois. That the closest point is closer than Laois' closest point is irrelevant, at least in any sensible conversation.
Sure if you moved it somewhere else, Laois' closest point might be closer than Donegal's closest point!
Arrah lads. No need to fight. We can all agree the Hyde is a far more befitting venue for the All-Ireland champions.
Do any Donegal posters know if the reports that Donegal were training flat out all last week is true or a load of BS.
If they were, does it imply that deep down their real focus was down the line. As has been said before, a lot of the players seemed so lethargic/flatfooted.
Jim McGuinness was given tremendous credit for what he achieved, most of it deserved (Brolly used to sicken my hole, when he was putting him up there as the best manager of all time) The next week/month will truly tell us if he is at that level.
Quote from: joemamas on July 23, 2013, 02:35:26 PM
Do any Donegal posters know if the reports that Donegal were training flat out all last week is true or a load of BS.
If they were, does it imply that deep down their real focus was down the line. As has been said before, a lot of the players seemed so lethargic/flatfooted.
Jim McGuinness was given tremendous credit for what he achieved, most of it deserved (Brolly used to sicken my hole, when he was putting him up there as the best manager of all time) The next week/month will truly tell us if he is at that level.
I only know what I've read on the internet. I would be very surprised if it was the case, however, that they'd done very heavy training last week. Its one thing doing it in the week before the Dublin league game when the potential short-term cost is minimal. Ulster final is totally different and I'd be shocked if McGuinness, who constantly preaches one game at a time, would have been so dismissive of the Monaghan challenge (even those of us here were urging caution amid the chorus of Monaghan dismissal FFS!). If it was the case, then you're right, it was a big mistake and he's got a bit of explaining to do.
That said, I think it would be idiotic to dismiss McGuinness as average if this year ends badly (fair enough, there was always going to be some form of backlash/reassessment when things went wrong, but it has to be reasonable). He's only in his third year of senior football. He's already won two provincial titles and an AI with a team of mostly perceived has beens/never were/ never will bes. Before that he took Donegal to within a missed penalty of the AI U-21 title. His club NEVER won a county title prior to him running things. One bad month, along with injuries, the inevitable loss of hunger and (this week) a very difficult schedule does not negate his outstanding achievements to date. Hype such as his ranking among the "best managers of all time" is an exercise for ten years down the line. Brolly basically doesn't rate the Donegal squad, at least not among the top tier. For him, its all McGuinness, hence the hyperbole in the light of what he has achieved. Many here would seem to agree, at least with the squad part of the equation!
Quote from: joemamas on July 23, 2013, 02:35:26 PM
Do any Donegal posters know if the reports that Donegal were training flat out all last week is true or a load of BS.
If they were, does it imply that deep down their real focus was down the line. As has been said before, a lot of the players seemed so lethargic/flatfooted.
Jim McGuinness was given tremendous credit for what he achieved, most of it deserved (Brolly used to sicken my hole, when he was putting him up there as the best manager of all time) The next week/month will truly tell us if he is at that level.
I'm not from Donegal but the story I've heard from several people has been that Donegal were doing savage training at the beginning of last week. In either case judging by Jimmy's interview after the game and the look of bemusement on his face during the match I genuinely think he was looking at the AI quarter final onwards and underestimated Monaghan. He may be able to control a lot of performance variables but the one area that he can't legislate for is hunger when the players step onto the field. I think ultimately that is what let them down.
Quote from: J70 on July 23, 2013, 01:36:01 PM
Quote from: ck on July 23, 2013, 12:58:22 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 23, 2013, 01:44:34 AM
Quote from: ck on July 23, 2013, 12:04:20 AM
Carrick is a very poor venue choice. It's much closer to Donegal than Laois. Surely Mullingar, Croke park or even Longford would have been fairer.
Donegal by 5 points.
Distance from Carrick on Shannon
Donegal Town - 118 km
Letterkenny - 165 km
Gweedore - 191 km
Carndonagh - 220 km
Portlaoise - 150 km
Durrow - 173 km
Mountmellick - 140 km
Much closer??
Ah sure you can pull out a pile of towns to make a point if you want. The fact is that the closest part of Donegal to Carrick is much closer than the closest part of Laois. Longford or Roscommon would have been a much fairer venue for both counties!
Don't be an idiot. Donegal is a big county. Except for the relatively tiny area to the south of Donegal Town, the rest of the county is at a similar or further distance from Carrick on Shannon as the entire county of Laois. That the closest point is closer than Laois' closest point is irrelevant, at least in any sensible conversation.
Sure if you moved it somewhere else, Laois' closest point might be closer than Donegal's closest point!
Chill out for gods sake, those monaghan lads fairly rattled your cage. Carrick is closer to Donegal, it's a small ground and hardly a great place to attract neutrals. Argue away with yourself if you want but these are the facts.
Quote from: J70 on July 23, 2013, 03:01:17 PM
Quote from: joemamas on July 23, 2013, 02:35:26 PM
Do any Donegal posters know if the reports that Donegal were training flat out all last week is true or a load of BS.
If they were, does it imply that deep down their real focus was down the line. As has been said before, a lot of the players seemed so lethargic/flatfooted.
Jim McGuinness was given tremendous credit for what he achieved, most of it deserved (Brolly used to sicken my hole, when he was putting him up there as the best manager of all time) The next week/month will truly tell us if he is at that level.
I only know what I've read on the internet. I would be very surprised if it was the case, however, that they'd done very heavy training last week. Its one thing doing it in the week before the Dublin league game when the potential short-term cost is minimal. Ulster final is totally different and I'd be shocked if McGuinness, who constantly preaches one game at a time, would have been so dismissive of the Monaghan challenge (even those of us here were urging caution amid the chorus of Monaghan dismissal FFS!). If it was the case, then you're right, it was a big mistake and he's got a bit of explaining to do.
That said, I think it would be idiotic to dismiss McGuinness as average if this year ends badly (fair enough, there was always going to be some form of backlash/reassessment when things went wrong, but it has to be reasonable). He's only in his third year of senior football. He's already won two provincial titles and an AI with a team of mostly perceived has beens/never were/ never will bes. Before that he took Donegal to within a missed penalty of the AI U-21 title. His club NEVER won a county title prior to him running things. One bad month, along with injuries, the inevitable loss of hunger and (this week) a very difficult schedule does not negate his outstanding achievements to date. Hype such as his ranking among the "best managers of all time" is an exercise for ten years down the line. Brolly basically doesn't rate the Donegal squad, at least not among the top tier. For him, its all McGuinness, hence the hyperbole in the light of what he has achieved. Many here would seem to agree, at least with the squad part of the equation!
I don't think anyone will ever dismiss McGuinness as average, imo he accomplished the greatest managerial feat in my lifetime by leading Donegal to an AI title considering where they started from. However it may well be the case that McGuinness' intense managerial style is not sustainable for longer periods. His gameplan requires savage intensity and workrate and when one or two players bodies start breaking down and subconsciously some players begin to wonder can they go through the wall again having already achieved the holy grail, then success becomes harder to achieve. Monaghan will do well to replicate the intensity they played Sunday's match with. On Sunday's performance I don't think Dublin would have beaten them.
Also gaelic football is constantly evolving and what is today's blueprint for success is tomorrows fish and chip paper. Mickey Harte was deemed a revolutionary about 10 years ago but has struggled to keep pace in recent years and the game will change again soon as other counties figure out another new way of being successful. If for instance Mickey Harte won another AI which I believe he craves, I believe it would make him the greatest manager of all time (and I know Mick O'Dwyer was more successful) ahead of Sean Boylan and Mick O'Dwyer.
In saying all that I'm just after backing Donegal to win the AI at 9/1. ;D
I wouldn't be writing Donegals obituary just yet and adversity may well bring out the best in them this week.
Quote from: J70 on July 23, 2013, 03:01:17 PM
Quote from: joemamas on July 23, 2013, 02:35:26 PM
Do any Donegal posters know if the reports that Donegal were training flat out all last week is true or a load of BS.
If they were, does it imply that deep down their real focus was down the line. As has been said before, a lot of the players seemed so lethargic/flatfooted.
Jim McGuinness was given tremendous credit for what he achieved, most of it deserved (Brolly used to sicken my hole, when he was putting him up there as the best manager of all time) The next week/month will truly tell us if he is at that level.
I only know what I've read on the internet. I would be very surprised if it was the case, however, that they'd done very heavy training last week. Its one thing doing it in the week before the Dublin league game when the potential short-term cost is minimal. Ulster final is totally different and I'd be shocked if McGuinness, who constantly preaches one game at a time, would have been so dismissive of the Monaghan challenge (even those of us here were urging caution amid the chorus of Monaghan dismissal FFS!). If it was the case, then you're right, it was a big mistake and he's got a bit of explaining to do.
That said, I think it would be idiotic to dismiss McGuinness as average if this year ends badly (fair enough, there was always going to be some form of backlash/reassessment when things went wrong, but it has to be reasonable). He's only in his third year of senior football. He's already won two provincial titles and an AI with a team of mostly perceived has beens/never were/ never will bes. Before that he took Donegal to within a missed penalty of the AI U-21 title. His club NEVER won a county title prior to him running things. One bad month, along with injuries, the inevitable loss of hunger and (this week) a very difficult schedule does not negate his outstanding achievements to date. Hype such as his ranking among the "best managers of all time" is an exercise for ten years down the line. Brolly basically doesn't rate the Donegal squad, at least not among the top tier. For him, its all McGuinness, hence the hyperbole in the light of what he has achieved. Many here would seem to agree, at least with the squad part of the equation!
Nobody called McGuinness average, where did you get that? He's a top manager but he was beaten last Sunday on many fronts by what many would regard as a non top tier team. His halo has slipped and if its true that they trained heavy a week before then he's not practising what he preaches. If he looses to Laois wait till you hear the stories... All his time at Celtic, jimmy is bigger than the team, it's hard to retain an All Ireland etc etc I for one admire Jimmy cos I'm with Brolly, apart for 3 or 4 players they are an average enough oul bunch with nothing on the bench. You can train the shite outa lads but can that last? Can the bodies and hunger survive it? Time will tell
Quote from: ck on July 23, 2013, 03:35:36 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 23, 2013, 01:36:01 PM
Quote from: ck on July 23, 2013, 12:58:22 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 23, 2013, 01:44:34 AM
Quote from: ck on July 23, 2013, 12:04:20 AM
Carrick is a very poor venue choice. It's much closer to Donegal than Laois. Surely Mullingar, Croke park or even Longford would have been fairer.
Donegal by 5 points.
Distance from Carrick on Shannon
Donegal Town - 118 km
Letterkenny - 165 km
Gweedore - 191 km
Carndonagh - 220 km
Portlaoise - 150 km
Durrow - 173 km
Mountmellick - 140 km
Much closer??
Ah sure you can pull out a pile of towns to make a point if you want. The fact is that the closest part of Donegal to Carrick is much closer than the closest part of Laois. Longford or Roscommon would have been a much fairer venue for both counties!
Don't be an idiot. Donegal is a big county. Except for the relatively tiny area to the south of Donegal Town, the rest of the county is at a similar or further distance from Carrick on Shannon as the entire county of Laois. That the closest point is closer than Laois' closest point is irrelevant, at least in any sensible conversation.
Sure if you moved it somewhere else, Laois' closest point might be closer than Donegal's closest point!
Chill out for gods sake, those monaghan lads fairly rattled your cage. Carrick is closer to Donegal, it's a small ground and hardly a great place to attract neutrals. Argue away with yourself if you want but these are the facts.
Look, I've no issue with you on the merits of the ground itself or attraction of the location for neutrals (if you deem that important). But your original point was about travel distance. Rejecting the location because its closer to one corner of Donegal is ridiculously simplistic and DOESN'T reflect the facts about Carrick's relative convenience for each county as a whole. But YOU go ahead and ignore that bleeding obvious fact.
Donegal's biggest problem at the moment is the fact that up to 6 key players are carrying injuries & the bench is not strong enough to compensate. The system that Donegal uses requires high intensity from all 15 players and we just don't have the personnel to carry that out at the moment.
Quote from: ck on July 23, 2013, 03:44:20 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 23, 2013, 03:01:17 PM
Quote from: joemamas on July 23, 2013, 02:35:26 PM
Do any Donegal posters know if the reports that Donegal were training flat out all last week is true or a load of BS.
If they were, does it imply that deep down their real focus was down the line. As has been said before, a lot of the players seemed so lethargic/flatfooted.
Jim McGuinness was given tremendous credit for what he achieved, most of it deserved (Brolly used to sicken my hole, when he was putting him up there as the best manager of all time) The next week/month will truly tell us if he is at that level.
I only know what I've read on the internet. I would be very surprised if it was the case, however, that they'd done very heavy training last week. Its one thing doing it in the week before the Dublin league game when the potential short-term cost is minimal. Ulster final is totally different and I'd be shocked if McGuinness, who constantly preaches one game at a time, would have been so dismissive of the Monaghan challenge (even those of us here were urging caution amid the chorus of Monaghan dismissal FFS!). If it was the case, then you're right, it was a big mistake and he's got a bit of explaining to do.
That said, I think it would be idiotic to dismiss McGuinness as average if this year ends badly (fair enough, there was always going to be some form of backlash/reassessment when things went wrong, but it has to be reasonable). He's only in his third year of senior football. He's already won two provincial titles and an AI with a team of mostly perceived has beens/never were/ never will bes. Before that he took Donegal to within a missed penalty of the AI U-21 title. His club NEVER won a county title prior to him running things. One bad month, along with injuries, the inevitable loss of hunger and (this week) a very difficult schedule does not negate his outstanding achievements to date. Hype such as his ranking among the "best managers of all time" is an exercise for ten years down the line. Brolly basically doesn't rate the Donegal squad, at least not among the top tier. For him, its all McGuinness, hence the hyperbole in the light of what he has achieved. Many here would seem to agree, at least with the squad part of the equation!
Nobody called McGuinness average, where did you get that? He's a top manager but he was beaten last Sunday on many fronts by what many would regard as a non top tier team. His halo has slipped and if its true that they trained heavy a week before then he's not practising what he preaches. If he looses to Laois wait till you hear the stories... All his time at Celtic, jimmy is bigger than the team, it's hard to retain an All Ireland etc etc I for one admire Jimmy cos I'm with Brolly, apart for 3 or 4 players they are an average enough oul bunch with nothing on the bench. You can train the shite outa lads but can that last? Can the bodies and hunger survive it? Time will tell
Yes, fair enough - the original poster was talking about reassessing him according to Brolly's "best manager ever" hype! I misinterpreted it as "top level", with the implication being if not top-level, then average.
Think people overdid the Celtic thing though. Don't other managers work full-time? He's not over there Monday-Friday.
Quote from: BluestackBoy on July 23, 2013, 03:45:33 PM
Donegal's biggest problem at the moment is the fact that up to 6 key players are carrying injuries & the bench is not strong enough to compensate. The system that Donegal uses requires high intensity from all 15 players and we just don't have the personnel to carry that out at the moment.
McFadden's sleepless nights too! :P
Jimmy knew motivation was needed for his players and the only way to regain that was by losing a match.
If they had won they would have been playing Tyrone or Cork or one of those big guns in the quarter final, now they will be playing one of Dublin, Kerry or Mayo. No real difference. They're still at the same stage as they would have been with an Ulster title but now the players have got a wake up call and will have motivation to prove those that are writing them off wrong.
None of Dublin/Kerry/Mayo want them in the draw.
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 23, 2013, 04:06:50 PM
Jimmy knew motivation was needed for his players and the only way to regain that was by losing a match.
If they had won they would have been playing Tyrone or Cork or one of those big guns in the quarter final, now they will be playing one of Dublin, Kerry or Mayo. No real difference. They're still at the same stage as they would have been with an Ulster title but now the players have got a wake up call and will have motivation to prove those that are writing them off wrong.
None of Dublin/Kerry/Mayo want them in the draw.
I believe they would account for Kerry easily. I think they would also beat Dublin but Mayo would be another slugfest war of attrition type game that may not suit Donegal. I think they are the one team that could unhinge them at the qf stage. Thats all presuming they get past Laois which could be tricky because of the timing.
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 23, 2013, 04:06:50 PM
Jimmy knew motivation was needed for his players and the only way to regain that was by losing a match.
If they had won they would have been playing Tyrone or Cork or one of those big guns in the quarter final, now they will be playing one of Dublin, Kerry or Mayo. No real difference. They're still at the same stage as they would have been with an Ulster title but now the players have got a wake up call and will have motivation to prove those that are writing them off wrong.
None of Dublin/Kerry/Mayo want them in the draw.
Donegal are clearly not at the same stage as they would have been with an Ulster title. Instead of a two week break, they have to get through an extra game just six days after losing a provincial final. Only Down have managed this in the 12 years since the qualifiers were introduced.
The best motivation for Donegal would have been retaining the Anglo Celt after a scare against Monaghan, which would also have meant avoiding other provincial champions in the quarter finals. They should still be capable of beating Laois, but they have made life much more difficult for themselves and the bookies have pushed them out to 9/1 for Sam as a result.
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2013, 01:53:59 PM
Arrah lads. No need to fight. We can all agree the Hyde is a far more befitting venue for the All-Ireland champions.
Why don't you invite the Orange Lodge to march in the Hyde every Saturday evening?
Everyone wins!
Quote from: Mourne Rover on July 23, 2013, 04:25:44 PM
Donegal are clearly not at the same stage as they would have been with an Ulster title. Instead of a two week break, they have to get through an extra game just six days after losing a provincial final. Only Down have managed this in the 12 years since the qualifiers were introduced.
The best motivation for Donegal would have been retaining the Anglo Celt after a scare against Monaghan, which would also have meant avoiding other provincial champions in the quarter finals. They should still be capable of beating Laois, but they have made life much more difficult for themselves and the bookies have pushed them out to 9/1 for Sam as a result.
Jimmy sacrificed the Ulster title in an aim to win back to back All Irelands. He tried to lose to Down but got his calculations a bit wrong. Now with the players hunger and desire back in place they will beat Dublin, Kerry or Mayo in their next match.
Quote from: yellowcard on July 23, 2013, 04:23:18 PM
I believe they would account for Kerry easily. I think they would also beat Dublin but Mayo would be another slugfest war of attrition type game that may not suit Donegal. I think they are the one team that could unhinge them at the qf stage. Thats all presuming they get past Laois which could be tricky because of the timing.
They would have to play Mayo in the All Ireland semi final anyway. It's a risky game that Jimmy is playing but it will make the quarter finals interesting.
DM, your first suggestion that Donegal deliberately lost an Ulster final was entertaining. You now seem to be claiming that they actually meant to lose the provincial semi final so presumably you will tell us next that the real master plan was to get beaten by Tyrone in the first round. Presumably you would like Jimmy to opt out of Ulster entirely next year and cruise through all four stages of the qualifiers instead ?
Quote from: Mourne Rover on July 23, 2013, 05:28:52 PM
DM, your first suggestion that Donegal deliberately lost an Ulster final was entertaining. You now seem to be claiming that they actually meant to lose the provincial semi final so presumably you will tell us next that the real master plan was to get beaten by Tyrone in the first round. Presumably you would like Jimmy to opt out of Ulster entirely next year and cruise through all four stages of the qualifiers instead ?
This is the same Don't Matter who claimed a team recorded a 10-point win because they won the coin toss, so I wouldn't be taking too much notice.
Quote from: Mourne Rover on July 23, 2013, 05:28:52 PM
DM, your first suggestion that Donegal deliberately lost an Ulster final was entertaining. You now seem to be claiming that they actually meant to lose the provincial semi final so presumably you will tell us next that the real master plan was to get beaten by Tyrone in the first round. Presumably you would like Jimmy to opt out of Ulster entirely next year and cruise through all four stages of the qualifiers instead ?
+1
Jimmy sacrificed a historic 3 in a row AngloCelt for a harder route to win an AI? ::)
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Off to Pairc Sean I go 8)
Quote from: yellowcard on July 23, 2013, 04:23:18 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 23, 2013, 04:06:50 PM
Jimmy knew motivation was needed for his players and the only way to regain that was by losing a match.
If they had won they would have been playing Tyrone or Cork or one of those big guns in the quarter final, now they will be playing one of Dublin, Kerry or Mayo. No real difference. They're still at the same stage as they would have been with an Ulster title but now the players have got a wake up call and will have motivation to prove those that are writing them off wrong.
None of Dublin/Kerry/Mayo want them in the draw.
I believe they would account for Kerry easily. I think they would also beat Dublin but Mayo would be another slugfest war of attrition type game that may not suit Donegal. I think they are the one team that could unhinge them at the qf stage. Thats all presuming they get past Laois which could be tricky because of the timing.
The donegal of last year may have had a chance v mayo, dublin and kerry but this year donegal have been poor all year. Donegal have 5 key players. Murphy and mcfadden up front, mchugh and lacey in defence and neil gallagher. Lacey is nowhere near fit and is unlikely to be anywhere near match fitness unless donegal go all the way to the final. Also mchugh and gallagher have struggled with fitness this year. If either murphy or mcfadden have off days or get injured donegal have little chance of beating the top teams. When both have off days then donegal will lose to most teams as happened with monaghan. That isn't meant as disrespect to monaghan who played brilliantly and i hope they go further in the competition. Donegal will really struggle to beat laois. If they do I would rate their chances in the quarter final as very slim no matter who they draw.
Have to agree with the above.
Donegal lost all their McKenna cup games, they then got relegated from div.1. Their Tyrone performance was excellent and perhaps masked what was really going on? If Down were any good they'd have beaten Donegal easily and then Monaghan did what Down threatened. One performance in a season doesn't win you anything, but of course only a fool would write them off. For me, Donegal are not firing, lack hunger and the bodies and minds are tired. I expect them to beat Laois all the same
McHugh is unlikely to be fit for this weekend after a dead leg and two nights in hospital with concussion.
I will reserve judgement on potential quarter final prospects until we see how they do this weekend. A third poor performance in a row, even if we win, would be very worrying. You can't turn form on with a switch (Kerry excepted, maybe!).
https://twitter.com/HMFerry/status/359769778518384640/photo/1
Quote from: Mourne Rover on July 23, 2013, 05:28:52 PM
DM, your first suggestion that Donegal deliberately lost an Ulster final was entertaining. You now seem to be claiming that they actually meant to lose the provincial semi final so presumably you will tell us next that the real master plan was to get beaten by Tyrone in the first round. Presumably you would like Jimmy to opt out of Ulster entirely next year and cruise through all four stages of the qualifiers instead ?
No, they couldn't give Tyrone confidence you see. They have them bet now and everyone knows it.
You are thinking like what mere mortals think like. You don't know what it's like to have a brain like Jim bob or Dont Matter. I could explain it but it would blow your mind.
Quote from: onefaircounty on July 23, 2013, 05:33:07 PM
This is the same Don't Matter who claimed a team recorded a 10-point win because they won the coin toss, so I wouldn't be taking too much notice.
Read the above post mere mortal.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 23, 2013, 05:34:32 PM
+1
Jimmy sacrificed a historic 3 in a row AngloCelt for a harder route to win an AI? ::)
He's at the same stage now as he was before.
Once Jimmy wraps his career up in 50 years, Ulster titles wont exist, Jimo is well aware of this and he knows being All Ireland champs is what's cookin.
Quote from: ONeill on July 23, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
https://twitter.com/HMFerry/status/359769778518384640/photo/1
I'm deeply offended by this.
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 23, 2013, 11:02:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 23, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
https://twitter.com/HMFerry/status/359769778518384640/photo/1
I'm deeply offended by this.
So am I. They didn't use the correct Laois crest.
I really love jump on the band wagon supporters lol
Ok so I'll show you a little bit of the theory behind Jimmy giving up the Ulster title for All Ireland success. He's been using some complecated maths equations to find the answer. Something like these:
(sin(45)^2)((4π) / π)
(500/1 x 1/200)x(2^3 x 2^-1)
x=SQR(100)/SQR(25)
They're all the same answer, does anyone know what it is?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-23420079 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-23420079)
Pre match talk from McNulty - Be the shark boys! Be the shark!
Is this game on TV? I'd much prefer to watch this than Meath and Tyrone pulling and dragging one another around Croke Park.
Quote from: Jonah on July 24, 2013, 02:09:28 PM
Is this game on TV? I'd much prefer to watch this than Meath and Tyrone pulling and dragging one another around Croke Park.
What makes you think Donegal v Laois will be any different. They are probably two of the most defensive teams left in the competition.
Quote from: Jonah on July 24, 2013, 02:09:28 PM
Is this game on TV? I'd much prefer to watch this than Meath and Tyrone pulling and dragging one another around Croke Park.
If Laois set up anything like they did against Dublin last year, then you could just watch a rugby league game and pretend it is Donegal V laois.
To elaborate a little, I was at Q/final between laois V dublin Laois played with 10 beind the ball for most of the game, incrediby even when the were down by 3pts in the last 10 mins they still had only two forwards. Still trying to figure that one out.
It's called "not deviating from our gameplan". ;D
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 24, 2013, 12:21:12 PM
Ok so I'll show you a little bit of the theory behind Jimmy giving up the Ulster title for All Ireland success. He's been using some complecated maths equations to find the answer. Something like these:
(sin(45)^2)((4π) / π)
(500/1 x 1/200)x(2^3 x 2^-1)
x=SQR(100)/SQR(25)
They're all the same answer, does anyone know what it is?
Not one of ye is clever enough. The answer is 2.
2 in a row.
About Laois v Dublin last year. Both teams played as defensive as one another, it's just that Dublin won far more ball at midfield.
This meant they had far more opportunity to attack, which resulted in Laois having less opportunity to attack. Does that spell it out clearly enough for you mere mortals?
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 24, 2013, 05:04:28 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 24, 2013, 12:21:12 PM
Ok so I'll show you a little bit of the theory behind Jimmy giving up the Ulster title for All Ireland success. He's been using some complecated maths equations to find the answer. Something like these:
(sin(45)^2)((4π) / π)
(500/1 x 1/200)x(2^3 x 2^-1)
x=SQR(100)/SQR(25)
They're all the same answer, does anyone know what it is?
Not one of ye is clever enough. The answer is 2.
2 in a row.
About Laois v Dublin last year. Both teams played as defensive as one another, it's just that Dublin won far more ball at midfield.
This meant they had far more opportunity to attack, which resulted in Laois having less opportunity to attack. Does that spell it out clearly enough for you mere mortals?
Plus the Ref added on only 1 minute when it should have been at least 4...
Aint that the truth but when you're on their home patch the ref has to look out for himself. It's unfortunate but we all know how many of them carry knives/needles.
Martin Duffy in charge of this game that should be fun.
Here's some images of Marty at work.
Awarding a free:
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3i2ZPohgUPf8rLlXzcYs4piNf0CG0UV3IM8px-RFwci0ej1Ut)
Giving a red card:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQk8zGcqfoizHyF9zUJwlO-c5kN5IQz-CPw3iPQz-8KRwYfh4GoPQ)
Bursting throgh the Kildare and Derry defences:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT9MGyn6zRSOxT9bQlLVMpYl0mm0fAreJL-Rfn5gyoXapATxLjN)
Giving a free for both teams:
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTSYwW0qaYUtOPLbQU2CYXjMxTNikOX4mrGG-jk9oUbZAEZ_w45)
Warning a Galway player:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQxyJCEotAEaC1NNGeAmxeziTYFupqkRRfkM4BNr25IC45qrbQTVg)
The Galway player didn't listen:
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTm1V1lt7rqaRAaZ2ozwKMTDtE2qOE5siyPvYTm1FVPvkBtmJ5y)
I don't know who my favorite Marty is, Marty Whelan? Marty Morrisey? Marty McGuinness? One thing's for sure, it aint Marty Duffy.
Quote from: laoislad on July 24, 2013, 05:15:33 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 24, 2013, 05:04:28 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 24, 2013, 12:21:12 PM
Ok so I'll show you a little bit of the theory behind Jimmy giving up the Ulster title for All Ireland success. He's been using some complecated maths equations to find the answer. Something like these:
(sin(45)^2)((4π) / π)
(500/1 x 1/200)x(2^3 x 2^-1)
x=SQR(100)/SQR(25)
They're all the same answer, does anyone know what it is?
Not one of ye is clever enough. The answer is 2.
2 in a row.
About Laois v Dublin last year. Both teams played as defensive as one another, it's just that Dublin won far more ball at midfield.
This meant they had far more opportunity to attack, which resulted in Laois having less opportunity to attack. Does that spell it out clearly enough for you mere mortals?
Plus the Ref added on only 1 minute when it should have been at least 4...
I clearly remember the ref not playing only one minute, typical bull*hit, no way they should control the time.
My point on laois was, they were down by three or four points, whatever it was, why not go for it, they were never going to score a goal with only two frowards. They played the last 5-10 mins as though they were hanging on to an away goal differential, not being down by one.
Quote from: drici on July 22, 2013, 03:47:43 PM
https://www.tickets.ie/event.aspx/tickets/gaa-football-all-ireland-qualifiers-rd-4-donegal-v-laois-pairc-sean-mac-diarmada-27-July-2013/B3PYG
Back on sale again.
Quote from: drici on July 25, 2013, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: drici on July 22, 2013, 03:47:43 PM
https://www.tickets.ie/event.aspx/tickets/gaa-football-all-ireland-qualifiers-rd-4-donegal-v-laois-pairc-sean-mac-diarmada-27-July-2013/B3PYG
Back on sale again.
Bit stupid to put a warning that they wouldn't be likely to be available again so! My Ticketmaster tickets arrived today, with their 2 Euro surcharges. At least I've got them.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3AGZH6CcAA3i4L.jpg)
Quote from: drici on July 26, 2013, 10:50:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3AGZH6CcAA3i4L.jpg)
Is that good luck as in 'Good bye'?
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 26, 2013, 11:20:46 PM
Quote from: drici on July 26, 2013, 10:50:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3AGZH6CcAA3i4L.jpg)
Is that good luck as in 'Good bye'?
Suspect that pic is from before the AI last year? There were loads of signs out in Monaghan wishing Donegal the best. While we were all very disappointed with the result, everyone was delighted for the people of Monaghan.
Somebody asked earlier, but I didn't see a reply - Is this game being shown live on TV? I can't seem to find it on tv guides.
Safe journey to all driving to the game today unfortunately can't get to carrick today. Hoping for much improved performance from the majority of the tea who simply didn't turn up the last day. Wonder if jim will freshen up the starting 15 a little as there is a few players who have been poor all championship IMO but won't name any of them here
Quote from: babarino on July 27, 2013, 10:00:49 AM
Somebody asked earlier, but I didn't see a reply - Is this game being shown live on TV? I can't seem to find it on tv guides.
No. Tyrone v Meath is on 7pm RTE2 and the two preceding games in Croker are being shown on premier sports pay per view channel.
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 24, 2013, 05:04:28 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 24, 2013, 12:21:12 PM
Ok so I'll show you a little bit of the theory behind Jimmy giving up the Ulster title for All Ireland success. He's been using some complecated maths equations to find the answer. Something like these:
(sin(45)^2)((4π) / π)
(500/1 x 1/200)x(2^3 x 2^-1)
x=SQR(100)/SQR(25)
They're all the same answer, does anyone know what it is?
Not one of ye is clever enough. The answer is 2.
(500/1 x 1/200)x(2^3 x 2^-1) = 2? Bring back the hedge schools.
No Donegal team named? Jimmy has circled the wagons. Watch out Laios.
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 23, 2013, 04:06:50 PM
Jimmy knew motivation was needed for his players and the only way to regain that was by losing a match.
If they had won they would have been playing Tyrone or Cork or one of those big guns in the quarter final, now they will be playing one of Dublin, Kerry or Mayo. No real difference. They're still at the same stage as they would have been with an Ulster title but now the players have got a wake up call and will have motivation to prove those that are writing them off wrong.
None of Dublin/Kerry/Mayo want them in the draw.
You are full of sh**e.. That's the kinda chat for the hogan stand.. You're seriously deluded if you think the best manager in the modern game would rationalise your logic. Complete BS my friend. ::)
Looks like the match won't be starting at five o'clock.
Quote from: drici on July 27, 2013, 03:14:43 PM
Looks like the match won't be starting at five o'clock.
Cen fáth?
Rain?
TG4 anois - Clare v Kildare currently in 2nd Half of Extra Time.
Donegal v Westmeath was due to start at 3-15pm.
Could end up delaying the start of the Donegal v Laois game.
5-15pm they're going for now.
Is it raining in Carrick and who would that favour?
:terrible Jam extending over 4km outside Carrick.
No chance of 5-15pm either.
Dún na nGall 0-00 Laois 0-00
Ryan McHugh and Declan Walsh start.
Leo McLoone and Karl Lacey don't.
Dún na nGall 0-00 Laois 0-00
Started.
Dún na nGall 0-00 Laois 0-00
Pitch a bit slippery.
Dún na nGall 0-01 Laois 0-00
C McFadden free
Dún na nGall 0-01 Laois 0-01
"Turgid stuff" per RTE report.
Dún na nGall 0-01 Laois 0-01
Managing to keep up with the scores.
Five or six points enough to win this game?
Dún na nGall 0-02 Laois 0-01
D Walsh
Dún na nGall 0-03 Laois 0-01
M Murphy
Dún na nGall 0-03 Laois 0-01
Management rows.
Dún na nGall 0-04 Laois 0-01
C McFadden free
Quote from: drici on July 27, 2013, 05:49:31 PM
Dún na nGall 0-03 Laois 0-01
Management rows.
Sounds like a great auld arm-wrestle.
Any sign of football breaking out?
Dún na nGall 0-04 Laois 0-01
No Laois players in Donegal Half there.
Dún na nGall 0-05 Laois 0-01
P McBrearty
Dún na nGall 0-05 Laois 0-01
Half Time
Just defend is the only plan Laois have?
Dún na nGall 0-05 Laois 0-01
Back on
Dún na nGall 0-05 Laois 0-02
Dún na nGall 0-06 Laois 0-02
C McFadden free
Dún na nGall 0-07 Laois 0-02
M Murphy free
Dún na nGall 0-07 Laois 0-03
Dún na nGall 0-07 Laois 0-04
sounds like another Donegal Classic
Dún na nGall 0-08 Laois 0-04
C McFadden free
Dún na nGall 0-09 Laois 0-04
P McBrearty
Sounds a grim grim match!
Dún na nGall 0-09 Laois 0-05
Dún na nGall 0-10 Laois 0-05
C McFadden
Dún na nGall 0-10 Laois 0-05
Karl Lacey on for P McGrath
Dún na nGall 0-10 Laois 0-06
Dún na nGall 0-10 Laois 0-07
Dún na nGall 0-10 Laois 0-07
50 for Dún na nGall
Dún na nGall 0-10 Laois 0-07
Wide
Dún na nGall 0-10 Laois 0-08
Cheers drici. Still 10-8?
Dún na nGall 0-10 Laois 0-08
R Bradley away - Martin McElhinney on
Dún na nGall 0-11 Laois 0-08
C McFadden
Dún na nGall 0-12 Laois 0-08
P McBrearty
Kerry manager leaving
Dún na nGall 0-12 Laois 0-08
2 minutes to be added
Dún na nGall 0-13 Laois 0-08
Niall Mac Aoidh
Dún na nGall 0-13 Laois 0-08
Laois down to 14
Dún na nGall 0-14 Laois 0-08
L McLoone
Dún na nGall 0-14 Laois 0-08
Sin é
Quarter Final Draw takes place anocht after Tyrone v Meath.
Ah well that's that.
A few wasted chances including a great goal chance in first half didn't help our cause.
Not sure if we really had the belief we could win.
Best of luck to Donegal in the rest of the Championship.
Cheers for the updates drici. Had Laois +8 as part of my accumulator.
Laois showed kicking skills that'd have embarassesd an U16 team in the first half. Clancy's injury was unlucky as he was driving Laois and dominating the middle. They spent that half lumping balls down Donegal's throat and they didn't win a single one.
The whole game was a pitched battle, much more remenistant of Donegal 2011 than the 2012 version. Lethargic, poor in attack, lots of balls kicked away. This performance next week would mean a loss to any opponent, even Kerry.
Lacey made an appearance and looked ok, he might be ready for next week.
Oh, and the "national anthem". The ould tannoy in Carrick is on the blink at the best of the times (and it's virtually inaudible on the terrace side) but this evening it managed to pump silence into Pairc Sean until the last few notes of it blurted out and the whole ground started laughing their asses off. Half the people around me thought we were observing a minute's silence. The moment of the evening.
Quote from: Syferus on July 27, 2013, 08:02:27 PM
Laois showed kicking skills that'd have embarassesd an U16 team in the first half. Clancy's injury was unlucky as he was driving Laois and dominating the middle. They spent that half lumping balls down Donegal's throat and they didn't win a single one.
The whole game was a pitched battle, much more remenistant of Donegal 2011 than the 2012 version. Lethargic, poor in attack, lots of balls kicked away. This performance next week would mean a loss to any opponent, even Kerry.
Lacey made an appearance and looked ok, he might be ready for next week.
You are right about today's game bein a "pitched battle" but Laois used the template which is now accepted as being the best way to stop Donegal. Carrick is a tight pitch & Laois employed two sweepers at all times even at the end when the game was moving away from them. No team is going to look great in attack against that sort of defence but I feel that from here on in teams will play to their own strengths as opposed to setting up to frustrate.
Donegal will give it a rattle next Sun but they have too many key players injured & coming back from injury. This wasn't an issue last year when they led a charmed life injury wise but this year is a different story.
Quote from: BluestackBoy on July 27, 2013, 11:32:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 27, 2013, 08:02:27 PM
Laois showed kicking skills that'd have embarassesd an U16 team in the first half. Clancy's injury was unlucky as he was driving Laois and dominating the middle. They spent that half lumping balls down Donegal's throat and they didn't win a single one.
The whole game was a pitched battle, much more remenistant of Donegal 2011 than the 2012 version. Lethargic, poor in attack, lots of balls kicked away. This performance next week would mean a loss to any opponent, even Kerry.
Lacey made an appearance and looked ok, he might be ready for next week.
You are right about today's game bein a "pitched battle" but Laois used the template which is now accepted as being the best way to stop Donegal. Carrick is a tight pitch & Laois employed two sweepers at all times even at the end when the game was moving away from them. No team is going to look great in attack against that sort of defence but I feel that from here on in teams will play to their own strengths as opposed to setting up to frustrate.
Donegal will give it a rattle next Sun but they have too many key players injured & coming back from injury. This wasn't an issue last year when they led a charmed life injury wise but this year is a different story.
Pretty much on the button, Bluestack. Laois could have shown more composure in front of goal in the first half - they even had a goal chance which if netted would really have set the cat into the creamery.
Likewise when Laois hauled themselves back to within three (10-7) late on they had enough chances to equalise or even go ahead and only hit one of them. I suppose you need luck to fall your way when you're underdogs and Laois' really wasn't in this evening.
Laois lacked belief that they could beat us - and they certainly could have. While our performance was better than that against Monaghan, we are a long, long way off the level of play that we showed last year. Our defence was solid enough but up front we lacked any kind of edge. Our attacks broke down on Laois' 45 repeatedly and while we demonstrated patience, the late runners and men coming onto the ball at speed that was such a feature of last year were completely absent.
Pairc Sean is a fine place (the stand is excellent) and there was a brilliant turn-out of Donegal people, making up about 80% of the crowd I'd say.
It's disappointing that one of the national papers is claiming that big Jim had a go at McNulty on the side-line. It happened right in front of me. Jim was trying to talk to the linesman (to highlight a bad tackle which the ref subsequently awarded a yellow for) and McNulty pushed him back several times (McNulty said after that he was telling him to get back to his own side). Fair play to Jim who held his cool. Sideline handbags was all, but not instigated by the Glenties man.
In short, this year we are good enough to get to the QF but not good enough to beat Mayo.
Dont Matter didn't take yesterday's result well.
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Why is Rory Kavanagh's name on that car? Does he own it? Drive it? I feel a bit sorry for the poor ladeen.
A picture I took of fight night:
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I also spotted Eammon Fitzmaurice in the stand in one of my pics - strange bet for him to make to go to the Carrick game when five of the teams Kerry could have drawn were playing in Croker. Must be worried about those Donegal yokes.
Can't beat a bit of pushing and shoving along the line.#
There should be bonus points for this sort of thing.
And if you point fingers at the opposing managers, you should get points deducted instead and points added on if you connect with them !!
Walking away gets you a 4 week ban from the sideline.
By my reckoning then, Fermanagh won that game v Cavan a few weeks ago.
Quote from: laoislad on July 28, 2013, 12:52:03 PM
Dont Matter didn't take yesterday's result well.
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They're just lucky I got rid of the big mac meal I had in one of Pairc Seáns toilets or ther'd be a real mess.
Donegal at 7-4 is tempting.
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Quote from: laoislad on July 28, 2013, 12:52:03 PM
Dont Matter didn't take yesterday's result well.
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They're just lucky I got rid of the big mac meal I had in one of Pairc Seáns toilets or ther'd be a real mess.
Is that one of those new dual fuel cars? Diesel and ethyl glucoronide?
After the Ulster final the talk on TSG was only 2 teams have ever won after the 6 day turnaround.
Then during the week that was corrected to only being Down as the other team did it after 7 days.
Now in the Irish Times it's back saying Donegal are now only the third team to do it?
Who was the second team and when was it?
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 29, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
After the Ulster final the talk on TSG was only 2 teams have ever won after the 6 day turnaround.
Then during the week that was corrected to only being Down as the other team did it after 7 days.
Now in the Irish Times it's back saying Donegal are now only the third team to do it?
Who was the second team and when was it?
Dublin in 7 days AFAIK