From Hoganstand.com
QuoteMcConville: Crokes comments could motivate Cross'
14 February 2012
Crossmaglen's Oisin McConvilleOisin McConville admits Dr Crokes' segregation comments could further motivate Crossmaglen.
As the defending All-Ireland club football champions prepare to put their title on the line against the Kerry kingpins this weekend, former Armagh star McConville says in the Examiner that Crokes' call for fan segregation will probably increase the Crossmaglen resolve, although he also adds that they are already motivated by a desire to improve on their performances against the same opposition in the 2007 All-Ireland final(s):
"I'd be lying if I said it hasn't had some sort of an effect. I'm not sure we really needed that much motivation.
"A part of motivation for Crokes is we feel we didn't do ourselves justice, especially in the first game when I think we were lucky to get a draw and I think everybody would accept that.
"In last year's semi-final, we were dead and buried, came back, dead and buried, came back. Last year's All-Ireland final, we did enough to get across the line. I'd rather we went out and expressed ourselves.
"If we do come across a team that is better than us that's fair enough but to actually put in a real, real good performance.
"I just know there are big, big performances in us, whether it's the next day or if we have a day after that..."
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 15, 2012, 01:37:15 AM
From Hoganstand.com
QuoteMcConville: Crokes comments could motivate Cross'
14 February 2012
Crossmaglen's Oisin McConvilleOisin McConville admits Dr Crokes' segregation comments could further motivate Crossmaglen.
As the defending All-Ireland club football champions prepare to put their title on the line against the Kerry kingpins this weekend, former Armagh star McConville says in the Examiner that Crokes' call for fan segregation will probably increase the Crossmaglen resolve, although he also adds that they are already motivated by a desire to improve on their performances against the same opposition in the 2007 All-Ireland final(s):
"I'd be lying if I said it hasn't had some sort of an effect. I'm not sure we really needed that much motivation.
"A part of motivation for Crokes is we feel we didn't do ourselves justice, especially in the first game when I think we were lucky to get a draw and I think everybody would accept that.
"In last year's semi-final, we were dead and buried, came back, dead and buried, came back. Last year's All-Ireland final, we did enough to get across the line. I'd rather we went out and expressed ourselves.
"If we do come across a team that is better than us that's fair enough but to actually put in a real, real good performance.
"I just know there are big, big performances in us, whether it's the next day or if we have a day after that..."
Where is the gloating?
Where does McConville say that Cross expect an easier win this time round?
You're a complete knobend who can't even dissect the meaning of fairly innocuous interview.
Complete winder.
Can you not keep this in the one thread? ???
I detect no gloating. Your thread title should read "Crokes comments could motivate Cross"
You may retire Mike, you've lost it, you're done!
Poor Mike. After realising that Kerry wans have made themselves the laughing stock of Ireland over the last few weeks, Is this really the best effort you could make at deflecting attention away from yourselves?
The clearest indication yet that Kerry Mike is no more a Kerry man than Seanie Johnston is a Lilywhite...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fLEc9hs9374/TxJy_q-s9bI/AAAAAAAAbAg/x047e-o2Da0/s1600/clown.jpg)
Poor, poor effort
Ó Sé hits out at Kerry 'whingers'
Páidí Ó Sé has criticised the Kerry players for what he feels is their recent habit of questioning referees' decisions, claiming it makes the players look like 'whingers'.
Ó Sé told The Examiner at the launch of his Tayto Longford Arms Comórtas Péile: "It's a thing I have studied very closely. It's the one characteristic I've noticed that has crept into Kerry football.
"It was never part of Kerry football, not when I was growing up or when I played or when I was manager.
"We're getting into this habit of questioning decisions and getting into arguments and portraying ourselves as whingers.
"It's something I'd like to see blocked out of our game. You train and prepare to do your job as a player - let the referee do his.
"They're over-reacting at the moment, questioning a lot of what the referee is doing.
"But he's not going to change his mind. They're doing themselves more harm than good."
Ó Sé continued: "I can certainly tell you Jack O'Connor is not telling them to crib at referees. Jack wouldn't be part of that, it's not in his make-up.
"It's only the players who must take it upon themselves to behave themselves. There's a duty to play well but there's also a duty to wear the jersey with respect and honour.
"We're proud of our football in Kerry and every day we take to the field with the green and gold jersey is a proud day for us.
"It's important to Kerry that this pride is developed and expressed on the field in the best way, not by giving out to the referee all of the time."
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2012/0215/kerry_osep.html
Kerry people in ungracious behaviour shocker. Good man Mikey, keep the flag flying!
Paidi is right, Kerry and (Meath people as well) need to take a long hard look at themselves - the country has grown to hate them.
Quote from: sheamy on February 15, 2012, 08:48:08 AM
The clearest indication yet that Kerry Mike is no more a Kerry man than Seanie Johnston is a Lilywhite...
No, no,
Kerry Mike is true Kerry, whereas
Mike Sheehy is pure... <insert as appropriate>.
Quote from: rrhf on February 15, 2012, 10:42:23 AM
Paidi is right, Kerry and (Meath people as well) need to take a long hard look at themselves - the country has grown to hate them.
lol Classic!!! From a Tyronie no less. Post of the day!!!
I wish someone would hate us :(
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 15, 2012, 11:04:37 AM
Quote from: sheamy on February 15, 2012, 08:48:08 AM
The clearest indication yet that Kerry Mike is no more a Kerry man than Seanie Johnston is a Lilywhite...
No, no, Kerry Mike is true Kerry, whereas Mike Sheehy is pure... <insert as appropriate>.
...pure John James Doe.
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 15, 2012, 11:46:10 AM
I wish someone would hate us :(
It's ok, we could stir something up to get Loughiel to hate Coolderry.
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 15, 2012, 11:46:10 AM
I wish someone would hate us :(
Ah sure we all do AZ. . . that Brian Cowan man did the County no favours at all!!
rabble rabble rabble Seamus Darby push rabble rabble rabble
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 15, 2012, 11:46:10 AM
I wish someone would hate us :(
The Tyrone crowd probably do.
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 15, 2012, 11:46:10 AM
I wish someone would hate us :(
Didn't BIFFO get that message across?
We treat that as a term of endearment.
Quote from: rrhf on February 15, 2012, 10:42:23 AM
Paidi is right, Kerry and (Meath people as well) need to take a long hard look at themselves - the country has grown to hate them.
I think the source of all the anger toward Kerry by Nordies is the fact that they all whorshipped Kerry football. Then when they won the AI they looked to us for some acknowledgement, a pat on the head so to speak. I guess we didnt make the right noises and they have hated us with a passion ever since.
Cross by at least three. Not a club team in the Country will beat Cross IMO. Class Act. Credit to them. Theyl have Gooch under some restraint.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 16, 2012, 04:04:22 AM
Quote from: rrhf on February 15, 2012, 10:42:23 AM
Paidi is right, Kerry and (Meath people as well) need to take a long hard look at themselves - the country has grown to hate them.
I think the source of all the anger toward Kerry by Nordies is the fact that they all whorshipped Kerry football. Then when they won the AI they looked to us for some acknowledgement, a pat on the head so to speak. I guess we didnt make the right noises and they have hated us with a passion ever since.
In fairness that is better than your effort at the start of the thread. :P
Quote from: nothingbettertobeat on February 16, 2012, 09:13:56 AM
Cross by at least three. Not a club team in the Country will beat Cross IMO. Class Act. Credit to them. Theyl have Gooch under some restraint.
In all fairness, class is not an adjective I would use in relation to Crossmaglen
QuoteIn all fairness, class is not an adjective I would use in relation to Crossmaglen
Would you prefer another superlative. If you are suggesting that class is not appropriate then perhaps you have a problem with your fairness?
Quote from: everymanaman on February 16, 2012, 09:38:21 PM
Quote from: nothingbettertobeat on February 16, 2012, 09:13:56 AM
Cross by at least three. Not a club team in the Country will beat Cross IMO. Class Act. Credit to them. Theyl have Gooch under some restraint.
In all fairness, class is not an adjective I would use in relation to Crossmaglen
Get used to it, you'll be using it on Saturday evening.
Quote from: Etienne Lantier on February 16, 2012, 10:41:18 PM
Quote from: everymanaman on February 16, 2012, 09:38:21 PM
Quote from: nothingbettertobeat on February 16, 2012, 09:13:56 AM
Cross by at least three. Not a club team in the Country will beat Cross IMO. Class Act. Credit to them. Theyl have Gooch under some restraint.
In all fairness, class is not an adjective I would use in relation to Crossmaglen
Get used to it, you'll be using it on Saturday evening.
So you would be in the McConville camp so...a handy win for Crossmaglen ? God you boys are fierce arrogant.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 17, 2012, 02:03:46 AM
Quote from: Etienne Lantier on February 16, 2012, 10:41:18 PM
Quote from: everymanaman on February 16, 2012, 09:38:21 PM
Quote from: nothingbettertobeat on February 16, 2012, 09:13:56 AM
Cross by at least three. Not a club team in the Country will beat Cross IMO. Class Act. Credit to them. Theyl have Gooch under some restraint.
In all fairness, class is not an adjective I would use in relation to Crossmaglen
Get used to it, you'll be using it on Saturday evening.
So you would be in the McConville camp so...a handy win for Crossmaglen ? God you boys are fierce arrogant.
;D
Cross Player have the skill to pay the bills
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 17, 2012, 02:03:46 AM
Quote from: Etienne Lantier on February 16, 2012, 10:41:18 PM
Quote from: everymanaman on February 16, 2012, 09:38:21 PM
Quote from: nothingbettertobeat on February 16, 2012, 09:13:56 AM
Cross by at least three. Not a club team in the Country will beat Cross IMO. Class Act. Credit to them. Theyl have Gooch under some restraint.
In all fairness, class is not an adjective I would use in relation to Crossmaglen
Get used to it, you'll be using it on Saturday evening.
So you would be in the McConville camp so...a handy win for Crossmaglen ? God you boys are fierce arrogant.
It was a game before Vincent Casey started shooting his mouth off. Now it's over.
Best of luck to Cross tomorrow! I'm sure the whole of Kerry is currently working on the excuses to explain away another defeat to the big bad Nordies.
Best of luck to Cross. But I don't think they need or appreciate the whinging on their behalf, especially in advance.
Quote from: Hardy on February 18, 2012, 09:49:14 AM
Best of luck to Cross. But I don't think they need or appreciate the whinging on their behalf, especially in advance.
I agree Hardy and I'd be fairly confident what I say on here will have absolutely zero impact on what happens on the pitch today! ::) Or maybe I've completely ruined their whole build up to the game?? If so, I'll feel very guilty!
Ah don't mind me.
They're in trouble already, it seems - Crokes scoring points for sport.
Looks like Coldrick doesn't count steps at all.
Just one word.
Class.
Kerry hoors in their box again. :)
Quote from: EC Unique on February 18, 2012, 03:30:07 PM
Kerry hoors in their box again. :)
And Ulster bragging again ;)
Some people shouldn't be let next or near sport.
they wer always likely to win in fairness, better team again on the day with a man harshly sent off
Fierce niggle of a game, poor ref, terrible amount of diving
Well done to the victors .................................. did Oisin muster a smile, oul slack jaw on him ;)
We're entitled to rejoice in Cross' win today, after the ampunt of crying that came out of kerry after the junior semi final. The Dr Crokes jumps on the band wagon slabbering about segragation. They would make you sick.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 15, 2012, 01:37:15 AM
From Hoganstand.com
QuoteMcConville: Crokes comments could motivate Cross'
14 February 2012
Crossmaglen's Oisin McConvilleOisin McConville admits Dr Crokes' segregation comments could further motivate Crossmaglen.
As the defending All-Ireland club football champions prepare to put their title on the line against the Kerry kingpins this weekend, former Armagh star McConville says in the Examiner that Crokes' call for fan segregation will probably increase the Crossmaglen resolve, although he also adds that they are already motivated by a desire to improve on their performances against the same opposition in the 2007 All-Ireland final(s):
"I'd be lying if I said it hasn't had some sort of an effect. I'm not sure we really needed that much motivation.
"A part of motivation for Crokes is we feel we didn't do ourselves justice, especially in the first game when I think we were lucky to get a draw and I think everybody would accept that.
"In last year's semi-final, we were dead and buried, came back, dead and buried, came back. Last year's All-Ireland final, we did enough to get across the line. I'd rather we went out and expressed ourselves.
"If we do come across a team that is better than us that's fair enough but to actually put in a real, real good performance.
"I just know there are big, big performances in us, whether it's the next day or if we have a day after that..."
Kiss my (http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?40,file=21604,filename=Dwayne_20mooning.jpg)
Cross are Cross, end of story.
Oisin took the game by the scruff of the neck for 5 minutes in the first half and that swung things. Aaron Kernan, Jamie Clarke and James Morgan were outstanding. Hard luck to Crokes, not many teams in any sport can do what Cross do on suc a regular basis.
Quote from: Hardy on February 18, 2012, 03:48:15 PM
Some people shouldn't be let next or near sport.
I'm over the moon Garycastle won.
C'mon Leinster!
We showed those bastards from the west!
Quote from: Rawhide on February 18, 2012, 04:55:41 PM
We're entitled to rejoice in Cross' win today, after the ampunt of crying that came out of kerry after the junior semi final. The Dr Crokes jumps on the band wagon slabbering about segragation. They would make you sick.
This is true.
Even I'm almost glad Cross won.
I never liked Crokes anyway. They are not that popular in East Kerry.So it was a win-win situation really.
QuoteI never liked Crokes anyway.
I'm sure the feeling was mutual.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 18, 2012, 06:28:41 PM
I never liked Crokes anyway. They are not that popular in East Kerry.So it was a win-win situation really.
Surely for a sour snipe like yourself it is termed a lose-lose situation. :)
Well done Crossmaglen, i hope they go and bring back another all Ireland!
Fair play to Cross...1-5 to 0-1 down after 20...down to a man and level with what 13 to go, and still they come through. You have to admire them. Their record over the past 15 years or so is phenomenal and I fancy they will pick up the Andy Merrigan cup for the 6th time on Paddys day.
Cross are just an example to us all. First class. Looks like they'll do it again the next day.
Well done , Cross
As a matter of curiosity. How many of the Crossmaglen team are actual local lads and not blow ins from other clubs?
Quote from: everymanaman on February 18, 2012, 08:27:20 PM
As a matter of curiosity. How many of the Crossmaglen team are actual local lads and not blow ins from other clubs?
Don't know if any are blow ins, in fact Aaron Cunningham and a few of the other younger players were only born within four doors of each other.
QuoteDon't know if any are blow ins, in fact Aaron Cunningham and a few of the other younger players were only born within four doors of each other.
I'd say pretty much everyone played for Cross since under-10.
If Seanie Johnston wanted to play for Rangers he'd have to live in Cross for years before they'd let him in.
Far fewer tourists on this current cross team I think. Apart from the brennan lad that started today I don't think that could be cast at anyone?
I don't think you'd have the sustained success unless it was largely home grown.
Brennan is the only "blow in" but his family are from Cross originally, he just lived in Newry for years. And just so people realise over the years there have been very few "blow ins". Gareth O'Neill (married to Dora McConville and moved back to the town), John Donaldson and Colm O'Neill. COlm O'Neill did play under age for us instead of Culloville though as they had no team. Every one else all Cross men from birth!
Can he gloat now
Go ahead. Its the natural brit response isn't it ?
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 19, 2012, 11:34:05 AM
Go ahead. Its the natural brit response isn't it ?
Oh the Brit card is pulled out again. How very sad ::)
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 19, 2012, 11:34:05 AM
Go ahead. Its the natural brit response isn't it ?
Ah poor Mike. A lot of you Kerry people find it very hard to accept a defeat by anyone.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 19, 2012, 11:34:05 AM
Go ahead. Its the natural brit response isn't it ?
Bet Mikey is really looking forward to the pancake contest on Tuesday where he is a nailed on cert to win the Kerry title
With all due respect to BC1 and his teamates yesterday's 2nd half performance was one of the best ever from any Cross team. Playing against a v strong wind, minus their v influential centre half back and down to 14 men..... to come back and beat a team of the quality of Crokes....awesome stuff.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 19, 2012, 11:34:05 AM
Go ahead. Its the natural brit response isn't it ?
poor fella. :( you'll get a bit of attention on the gaaboard now and again to compensate, don't worry :)
First of all congrats to Cross, it was some come back against a quality team.
Quote from: Onlooker on February 19, 2012, 01:07:09 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 19, 2012, 11:34:05 AM
Go ahead. Its the natural brit response isn't it ?
Ah poor Mike. A lot of you Kerry people find it very hard to accept a defeat by anyone.
What a load of shiite. Go to http://kerrygaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=4175&page=3 (http://kerrygaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=4175&page=3) to see Kerry fans reaction to the result. That is where the real proof of how gracious Kerry people are even in defeat. Maybe now you will refrain from making such childish comments.
watched the game yesterday and again today - amazing result. Some team...comeback form 7 points behind with only 14 mean against a team like crokes. Am delighted for them - as a tyrone fan? as a fan of GAA, id say that goes downa s one of the best team performances of the last few years.
That it happened to be against a team from kerry, makes it even sweeter
Seamus, we know there is a difference between real Kerry football people and an American WUM.
Quote from: armaghniac on February 19, 2012, 09:08:57 PM
Seamus, we know there is a difference between real Kerry football people and an American WUM.
Armaighnaic, fair play to you, you are one are one of the class acts on this board, you are probably one of the great contributors to our forum as well. Obviously the members of this site are passionate about their "sport". Don't be envious of winners nor celebrate losers. The vast majority of Kerry people are delighted with the Northern resurgences, the Tyrone, Armagh and Downs of this world, there is no fun in winning All Irelands every year ;)
It's a shame that Irish people in general hate winners. The respect we have got for Crossmaglen is immense, maybe only us (and Kilkenny) understand. This board leaves a lot to be desired
Mike Sheehy is winding people up with inappropriate statements like "Brits" (as if anyone could think there was anything remotely British about Oisin McConville!). Others, normally calm souls, sometimes then respond with a blast that takes in Kerry or all of Munster, I've done it myself.
If I was from Kerry I wouldn't take responses to a WUM to heart.
Cross' currently dominate Armagh and lately Ulster as Kerry do in Munster. This may irritate some, but the only solution to either is to beat them, they only have 15 (or sometimes 14) men like everyone else.
Quote from: armaghniac on February 20, 2012, 03:29:16 PM
Cross' currently dominate Armagh and laterally Ulster as Kerry do in Munster...
Sideways? Not yet! ;)
Quote from: armaghniac on February 20, 2012, 03:29:16 PM
Mike Sheehy is winding people up with inappropriate statements like "Brits" (as if anyone could think there was anything remotely British about Oisin McConville!). Others, normally calm souls, sometimes then respond with a blast that takes in Kerry or all of Munster, I've done it myself.
If I was from Kerry I wouldn't take responses to a WUM to heart.
Cross' currently dominate Armagh and laterally Ulster as Kerry do in Munster. This may irritate some, but the only solution to either is to beat them, they only have 15 (or sometimes 14) men like everyone else.
Ahh, yeah, thats right....everything used to be hunky-dory on here. For example, Nordies have never preemptively used the term "free-stater". It would always be "in response" to something that the big bad Mike Sheehy would say ::)
You can never be free mike in your state.
Quote from: rrhf on February 20, 2012, 10:21:33 PM
You can never be free mike in your state.
How're they all in Derrytresk these days ? Still whining about their (deserved) suspensions ?
QuoteYou can never be free mike in your state.
I wonder would that be Massachusetts or New York?
Mike, you are tarnishing the great name of Mike Sheehy. Couldn't you pick another name, and have a whine?
Quote from: BennyCake on February 20, 2012, 11:57:37 PM
Mike, you are tarnishing the great name of Mike Sheehy. Couldn't you pick another name, and have a whine?
Could not agree more..one gobshite is no representation of an entire county.
They like to win but fair play in 2002 every last one of them congratulated us on our success in croke park and wished us well.
I suspect that most Kerry folk would have enormous respect for Cross at the very least.Just as i have enormous respect for the Kerry seniors. Does not mean i have to like them, but they are a class act just like Cross, only at a different level.
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on February 21, 2012, 12:59:26 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 20, 2012, 11:57:37 PM
Mike, you are tarnishing the great name of Mike Sheehy. Couldn't you pick another name, and have a whine?
Could not agree more..one gobshite is no representation of an entire county.
They like to win but fair play in 2002 every last one of them congratulated us on our success in croke park and wished us well.
I suspect that most Kerry folk would have enormous respect for Cross at the very least.Just as i have enormous respect for the Kerry seniors. Does not mean i have to like them, but they are a class act just like Cross, only at a different level.
Nah, they have had a free pass in Armagh for the last 15 years or so...didnt they win one final recently by 25 points or something ?. What a joke.
I've huge respect for Cross anyway, and Armagh in general. Have met some great genuine GAA people over the years from Killeavy, Pearse Og, Mullaghbawn, Cross and many more.
This Cross team play great football aswell, loved when I heard they had sessions where handpassing was banned!
As a Down man I look on Crossmaglen with a mixture of envy and Ulster pride and, like others, have always got an amazing welcome at that great club. Was as proud to be at Portlaoise as if the team was in red and black and will masquerade with that old Kilkeeny scarf again on St Patrick's Day.
No genuine GAA supporter does begrudgery.
I don't see how anyone could fail to be full of admiration for Crossmaglen Rangers and what they have achieved. Their record is phenomonal, and just to have kept the club in such hale and hearty health during the troubles was an
achievement in itself.
The fact that they play a nice brand of football is just even more reason to admire them.
I will be hoping Garrycastle win on Paddy's day, but if Cross win again, I'll applaud their fine team and club again.
QuoteAs a Down man I look on Crossmaglen with a mixture of envy and Ulster pride and, like others, have always got an amazing welcome at that great club
Are you sure they knew you were from Down and didn't think you were from Kerry. :)
Reading Tony McEntee's interview yesterday shows you exactly the kind of drive/focus the man has. He mentioned one of the early changes he made in the match and said the lad brought on probably should be a starter but as he missed a few sessions (for whatever reason) he could not start him.
Quote from: Leo on February 21, 2012, 07:45:56 AM
No genuine GAA supporter does begrudgery.
Good luck finding genuine GAA supporters!!!
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 21, 2012, 01:43:41 AM
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on February 21, 2012, 12:59:26 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 20, 2012, 11:57:37 PM
Mike, you are tarnishing the great name of Mike Sheehy. Couldn't you pick another name, and have a whine?
Could not agree more..one gobshite is no representation of an entire county.
They like to win but fair play in 2002 every last one of them congratulated us on our success in croke park and wished us well.
I suspect that most Kerry folk would have enormous respect for Cross at the very least.Just as i have enormous respect for the Kerry seniors. Does not mean i have to like them, but they are a class act just like Cross, only at a different level.
Nah, they have had a free pass in Armagh for the last 15 years or so...didnt they win one final recently by 25 points or something ?. What a joke.
They seem to have got a right few free passes in Ulster and All-Ireland over the past few years also ::)
Just out of curiosity. Name the clubs that have beaten Cross in competitive fixtures in the last ten years. I'd say you could near count with both hands.
They lost to pearse ogs in the Armagh Champioship
in Ulster Bellaghy(Derry), Castleblayney(Monaghan), Enniskillen (Fermanagh), Errigal Ciarán (Tyrone)X 2
Portlaoise,(Laois) and St Vicents(Dublin) in the all ireland semi final Kilmacud Crokes(Dublin) in the final
There is a couple more jsut cant think maybe one more???
good question, of the top of my head i'l try it this order, see if others can fill in any wrong answers:
2012: All ireland final, so far
2011: All ireland champs
2010: beat in armagh by ogs ( sept 09)
2009: beat in all ireland semi by kilmacud crokes
2008: beat in all ireland semi by st vincents
2007: All ireland champs
2006: loup?
2005: beat in all ireland semi by portlaoise i think
2004: bellaghy?
2003: beat in ulster by errigal (end of 02)
2002: beat in ulster by enniskillen (end of 01)
2001: beat in ulster by blayney (end of 2000)
ALL ireland champs 97,99, 2000
i know bellaghy beat them, not sure what year, remember the game. loup is a wild guess
Doesnt the league count as competitive now?!
The league does count but in Cross players are judged on the number of County, Ulster and All-Irelands not league medals they have.. That's not been disrespecting the league but Cross win the league year after year minus the county players. They get maybe one tough game a year in the league and sometimes teams play their second team again cross( Granemore)
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 21, 2012, 01:43:41 AM
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on February 21, 2012, 12:59:26 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 20, 2012, 11:57:37 PM
Mike, you are tarnishing the great name of Mike Sheehy. Couldn't you pick another name, and have a whine?
Could not agree more..one gobshite is no representation of an entire county.
They like to win but fair play in 2002 every last one of them congratulated us on our success in croke park and wished us well.
I suspect that most Kerry folk would have enormous respect for Cross at the very least.Just as i have enormous respect for the Kerry seniors. Does not mean i have to like them, but they are a class act just like Cross, only at a different level.
You really are just a twat are'nt you
Free passes
2010 Kerry 2-18 Tipp 2-6
2008 Kerry 1-14 Clare 0-5
2007 Kerry 2-15 Waterford 0-4
2005 Kerry 2-22 Tipp 0-13
2003 Kerry 0-25 Tipp 1-10
Talk about free passes, i could'nt be bothered going back more than 10 years
Nah, they have had a free pass in Armagh for the last 15 years or so...didnt they win one final recently by 25 points or something ?. What a joke.
Quote from: Orchardman on February 21, 2012, 06:50:06 PM
good question, of the top of my head i'l try it this order, see if others can fill in any wrong answers:
2012: All ireland final, so far
2011: All ireland champs
2010: beat in armagh by ogs ( sept 09)
2009: beat in all ireland semi by kilmacud crokes
2008: beat in all ireland semi by st vincents
2007: All ireland champs
2006: loup?
2005: beat in all ireland semi by portlaoise i think
2004: bellaghy?
2003: beat in ulster by errigal (end of 02)
2002: beat in ulster by enniskillen (end of 01)
2001: beat in ulster by blayney (end of 2000)
ALL ireland champs 97,99, 2000
i know bellaghy beat them, not sure what year, remember the game. loup is a wild guess
I searched the most of this on google (obviously didn't have to google the 2009 one) :)
2011/2012-still going
2010/2011-AI Champs
2009/2010-Beat by Pearse Og in Armagh quarter-final
2008/2009-Beat by Kilmacud in AI final
2007/2008-Beat by St Vincents in AI semi-final
2006/2007-AI Champs
2005/2006-Beat by Bellaghy in Ulster Club quarter-final
2004/2005-Beat by Portlaoise in AI semi-final
2003/2004-Beat by Loup in Ulster semi-final
2002/2003-Beat by Errigle Ciaran in Ulster quarter-final
2001/2002-Beat by Enniskillen in Ulster quarter-final
2000/2001-Beat by Castleblaney
1999/2000-AI Champs
1998/1999-AI Champs
1997/1998-Beat by Dungiven (don't know what round)
1996/1997-AI Champs
They really let themselves down badly there from 2000 AI win to about 2004 :P
In the league last year they were beaten by Sarsfields, held to a draw at home in Cross,by Maghery and beaten at home by Maghery. On both occasions they had a full side out.But as someone said they dont put much store in the league. Still getting 2pts out of four aint bad. :)
Quote from: ogshead on February 22, 2012, 12:46:49 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on February 21, 2012, 06:50:06 PM
good question, of the top of my head i'l try it this order, see if others can fill in any wrong answers:
2012: All ireland final, so far
2011: All ireland champs
2010: beat in armagh by ogs ( sept 09)
2009: beat in all ireland semi by kilmacud crokes
2008: beat in all ireland semi by st vincents
2007: All ireland champs
2006: loup?
2005: beat in all ireland semi by portlaoise i think
2004: bellaghy?
2003: beat in ulster by errigal (end of 02)
2002: beat in ulster by enniskillen (end of 01)
2001: beat in ulster by blayney (end of 2000)
ALL ireland champs 97,99, 2000
i know bellaghy beat them, not sure what year, remember the game. loup is a wild guess
I searched the most of this on google (obviously didn't have to google the 2009 one) :)
2011/2012-still going
2010/2011-AI Champs
2009/2010-Beat by Pearse Og in Armagh quarter-final
2008/2009-Beat by Kilmacud in AI final
2007/2008-Beat by St Vincents in AI semi-final
2006/2007-AI Champs
2005/2006-Beat by Bellaghy in Ulster Club quarter-final
2004/2005-Beat by Portlaoise in AI semi-final
2003/2004-Beat by Loup in Ulster semi-final
2002/2003-Beat by Errigle Ciaran in Ulster quarter-final
2001/2002-Beat by Enniskillen in Ulster quarter-final
2000/2001-Beat by Castleblaney
1999/2000-AI Champs
1998/1999-AI Champs
1997/1998-Beat by Dungiven (don't know what round)
1996/1997-AI Champs
They really let themselves down badly there from 2000 AI win to about 2004 :P
Dont think that dungiven has played cross down the years but i think that year errigal ciaran in that year.
Quote from: ogshead on February 22, 2012, 12:46:49 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on February 21, 2012, 06:50:06 PM
good question, of the top of my head i'l try it this order, see if others can fill in any wrong answers:
2012: All ireland final, so far
2011: All ireland champs
2010: beat in armagh by ogs ( sept 09)
2009: beat in all ireland semi by kilmacud crokes
2008: beat in all ireland semi by st vincents
2007: All ireland champs
2006: loup?
2005: beat in all ireland semi by portlaoise i think
2004: bellaghy?
2003: beat in ulster by errigal (end of 02)
2002: beat in ulster by enniskillen (end of 01)
2001: beat in ulster by blayney (end of 2000)
ALL ireland champs 97,99, 2000
i know bellaghy beat them, not sure what year, remember the game. loup is a wild guess
I searched the most of this on google (obviously didn't have to google the 2009 one) :)
2011/2012-still going
2010/2011-AI Champs
2009/2010-Beat by Pearse Og in Armagh quarter-final
2008/2009-Beat by Kilmacud in AI final
2007/2008-Beat by St Vincents in AI semi-final
2006/2007-AI Champs
2005/2006-Beat by Bellaghy in Ulster Club quarter-final
2004/2005-Beat by Portlaoise in AI semi-final
2003/2004-Beat by Loup in Ulster semi-final
2002/2003-Beat by Errigle Ciaran in Ulster quarter-final
2001/2002-Beat by Enniskillen in Ulster quarter-final
2000/2001-Beat by Castleblaney
1999/2000-AI Champs
1998/1999-AI Champs
1997/1998-Beat by Dungiven (don't know what round)
1996/1997-AI Champs
They really let themselves down badly there from 2000 AI win to about 2004 :P
They must have been re-building. You will win nothing with kids.
Quote from: armaghranger12 on February 22, 2012, 09:24:48 AM
Dont think that dungiven has played cross down the years but i think that year errigal ciaran in that year.
Yep. Mickey Harte's Errigal beat Cross in semis and Dungiven beat Errigal in the final.
That's true but i think 2002 was the only season that harte was in charge of the club, which they did beat cross over a 3 game seres in ulster club.
As for league games, i'm sure nearly every div 1 team has beaten cross at least once over the last 10 years. League's don't matter much and cross have still won the last few handy!
Quote from: LeoMc on February 22, 2012, 10:04:49 AM
Quote from: ogshead on February 22, 2012, 12:46:49 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on February 21, 2012, 06:50:06 PM
good question, of the top of my head i'l try it this order, see if others can fill in any wrong answers:
2012: All ireland final, so far
2011: All ireland champs
2010: beat in armagh by ogs ( sept 09)
2009: beat in all ireland semi by kilmacud crokes
2008: beat in all ireland semi by st vincents
2007: All ireland champs
2006: loup?
2005: beat in all ireland semi by portlaoise i think
2004: bellaghy?
2003: beat in ulster by errigal (end of 02)
2002: beat in ulster by enniskillen (end of 01)
2001: beat in ulster by blayney (end of 2000)
ALL ireland champs 97,99, 2000
i know bellaghy beat them, not sure what year, remember the game. loup is a wild guess
I searched the most of this on google (obviously didn't have to google the 2009 one) :)
2011/2012-still going
2010/2011-AI Champs
2009/2010-Beat by Pearse Og in Armagh quarter-final
2008/2009-Beat by Kilmacud in AI final
2007/2008-Beat by St Vincents in AI semi-final
2006/2007-AI Champs
2005/2006-Beat by Bellaghy in Ulster Club quarter-final
2004/2005-Beat by Portlaoise in AI semi-final
2003/2004-Beat by Loup in Ulster semi-final
2002/2003-Beat by Errigle Ciaran in Ulster quarter-final
2001/2002-Beat by Enniskillen in Ulster quarter-final
2000/2001-Beat by Castleblaney
1999/2000-AI Champs
1998/1999-AI Champs
1997/1998-Beat by Dungiven (don't know what round)
1996/1997-AI Champs
They really let themselves down badly there from 2000 AI win to about 2004 :P
They must have been re-building. You will win nothing with kids.
... except Armagh titles of course!! :)
Quote from: ogshead on February 22, 2012, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on February 22, 2012, 10:04:49 AM
Quote from: ogshead on February 22, 2012, 12:46:49 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on February 21, 2012, 06:50:06 PM
good question, of the top of my head i'l try it this order, see if others can fill in any wrong answers:
2012: All ireland final, so far
2011: All ireland champs
2010: beat in armagh by ogs ( sept 09)
2009: beat in all ireland semi by kilmacud crokes
2008: beat in all ireland semi by st vincents
2007: All ireland champs
2006: loup?
2005: beat in all ireland semi by portlaoise i think
2004: bellaghy?
2003: beat in ulster by errigal (end of 02)
2002: beat in ulster by enniskillen (end of 01)
2001: beat in ulster by blayney (end of 2000)
ALL ireland champs 97,99, 2000
i know bellaghy beat them, not sure what year, remember the game. loup is a wild guess
I searched the most of this on google (obviously didn't have to google the 2009 one) :)
2011/2012-still going
2010/2011-AI Champs
2009/2010-Beat by Pearse Og in Armagh quarter-final
2008/2009-Beat by Kilmacud in AI final
2007/2008-Beat by St Vincents in AI semi-final
2006/2007-AI Champs
2005/2006-Beat by Bellaghy in Ulster Club quarter-final
2004/2005-Beat by Portlaoise in AI semi-final
2003/2004-Beat by Loup in Ulster semi-final
2002/2003-Beat by Errigle Ciaran in Ulster quarter-final
2001/2002-Beat by Enniskillen in Ulster quarter-final
2000/2001-Beat by Castleblaney
1999/2000-AI Champs
1998/1999-AI Champs
1997/1998-Beat by Dungiven (don't know what round)
1996/1997-AI Champs
They really let themselves down badly there from 2000 AI win to about 2004 :P
They must have been re-building. You will win nothing with kids.
... except Armagh titles of course!! :)
We went on the drink for 3 years after being off it to win a few titles ;) BTW leagues lol!!!
Funny BC1. Cross win Armagh leagues by playing 7-8 boys just in from the minor team
Quote from: armaghranger12 on February 22, 2012, 02:58:53 PM
Funny BC1. Cross win Armagh leagues by playing 7-8 boys just in from the minor team
I was once asked how many league medals I have, I honestly don't know and I don't even know where there medals are. In a corner on a cupboard somewhere.
Unbelievable record from Crossmaglen. How they've remained so successful for so long I don't know.
I'll be shouting for Garrycastle on Paddys day as I know a few of them and they're the underdog but wouldn't begrudge CMG another AI either.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 22, 2012, 03:09:33 PM
I was once asked how many league medals I have, I honestly don't know and I don't even know where there medals are. In a corner on a cupboard somewhere.
You may support Liverpool, but you can tell ya never played for them
He did. Remember Erik Meijer?
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 22, 2012, 04:32:10 PM
He did. Remember Erik Meijer?
Thank God you didn't say Sean Dundee, but big Erik wasn't great either!
Wonder what Armagh county team would be like if we had 6 or 7 clubs as dedicated as Cross.
Still the same. Most club teams in Armagh do put the effort in that cross do but they dont just have the same number of quality players. Up untill last year Cross didnt have a gym in the club.
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on February 22, 2012, 06:01:31 PM
Wonder what Armagh county team would be like if we had 6 or 7 clubs as dedicated as Cross.
Bit harsh. I know the Ogs are very dedicated and are IMO a top team in Ulster when at full strength.
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2012, 09:55:03 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on February 22, 2012, 06:01:31 PM
Wonder what Armagh county team would be like if we had 6 or 7 clubs as dedicated as Cross.
Bit harsh. I know the Ogs are very dedicated and are IMO a top team in Ulster when at full strength.
Didn't Jarlath Burns say a few months ago after Cross beat St Galls that we were the second best team in Ireland!! Haha But seriously I know the lads in our club do put in a serious effort and will be going all out to give Cross a rattle this year (they have a tough game against Granemore to come first though) and there are quality players there too that have made the county panel. I think Armaghgeddon is getting dedication mixed up with belief, never say die attitude and hunger for success.
I think there are a couple of other clubs in the county that on their day could beat Cross in a championship match as well. Cullyhanna nearly beat them in 2010 and Granemore and the Nab (not including 2011 final) are improving big time year on year. Dromintee have missed the boat though I think. The point I am trying to make though is that there are a few teams in Armagh who would do quite well in the Ulster championship if they eventually got there.
Quote from: ogshead on February 23, 2012, 12:13:19 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2012, 09:55:03 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on February 22, 2012, 06:01:31 PM
Wonder what Armagh county team would be like if we had 6 or 7 clubs as dedicated as Cross.
Bit harsh. I know the Ogs are very dedicated and are IMO a top team in Ulster when at full strength.
Didn't Jarlath Burns say a few months ago after Cross beat St Galls that we were the second best team in Ireland!! Haha But seriously I know the lads in our club do put in a serious effort and will be going all out to give Cross a rattle this year (they have a tough game against Granemore to come first though) and there are quality players there too that have made the county panel. I think Armaghgeddon is getting dedication mixed up with belief, never say die attitude and hunger for success.
I think there are a couple of other clubs in the county that on their day could beat Cross in a championship match as well. Cullyhanna nearly beat them in 2010 and Granemore and the Nab (not including 2011 final) are improving big time year on year. Dromintee have missed the boat though I think. The point I am trying to make though is that there are a few teams in Armagh who would do quite well in the Ulster championship if they eventually got there.
Are u serious Granemore? They couldn't even beat the Nab who Cross give a footballing lesson to. Cullyhanna had cross beat but could finish then off and cross won. So many times down the years Cross were on the verge of been beat Ogs Dromintee Harps all had the chances but hadn't got the bottle to finish the game off.
I don't think that any team in Armagh would give Ulster a real go at the start of the season their goals have to be to try and win the Armagh Championship not an Ulster. Ogs didn't care if they beat St Galls or not they were just happy with the County and rightly so.
Quote from: armaghranger12 on February 23, 2012, 09:27:31 AM
Quote from: ogshead on February 23, 2012, 12:13:19 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2012, 09:55:03 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on February 22, 2012, 06:01:31 PM
Wonder what Armagh county team would be like if we had 6 or 7 clubs as dedicated as Cross.
Bit harsh. I know the Ogs are very dedicated and are IMO a top team in Ulster when at full strength.
Didn't Jarlath Burns say a few months ago after Cross beat St Galls that we were the second best team in Ireland!! Haha But seriously I know the lads in our club do put in a serious effort and will be going all out to give Cross a rattle this year (they have a tough game against Granemore to come first though) and there are quality players there too that have made the county panel. I think Armaghgeddon is getting dedication mixed up with belief, never say die attitude and hunger for success.
I think there are a couple of other clubs in the county that on their day could beat Cross in a championship match as well. Cullyhanna nearly beat them in 2010 and Granemore and the Nab (not including 2011 final) are improving big time year on year. Dromintee have missed the boat though I think. The point I am trying to make though is that there are a few teams in Armagh who would do quite well in the Ulster championship if they eventually got there.
Are u serious Granemore? They couldn't even beat the Nab who Cross give a footballing lesson to. Cullyhanna had cross beat but could finish then off and cross won. So many times down the years Cross were on the verge of been beat Ogs Dromintee Harps all had the chances but hadn't got the bottle to finish the game off.
I don't think that any team in Armagh would give Ulster a real go at the start of the season their goals have to be to try and win the Armagh Championship not an Ulster. Ogs didn't care if they beat St Galls or not they were just happy with the County and rightly so.
Your not taking this in the right context. I said that Granemore and the Nab are improving every year and what you said about the Ogs, Harps etc having their chances but 'hadn't got the bottle', well the Ogs beating them proves that if you keep plugging away a win will come. Surely Cullyhanna would take heart from that.
In terms of the Ulster I meant that we have good teams in the county but because Cross dominate we don't see them on the Ulster stage. I wouldn't say the Ogs cared about the St Galls match either... it wasn't their goal at the start of that year but when they got there they wanted to beat them
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on February 22, 2012, 06:01:31 PM
Wonder what Armagh county team would be like if we had 6 or 7 clubs as dedicated as Cross.
Possibly not much different is the answer. It's an easy mistake to make to think strong clubs make a strong county team.
Lavey (1990, 1992), Bellaghy (1994, 2000), Dungiven (1997), Ballinderry (2001), Loup (2003)
Number of Ulster senior intercounty titles in the same period = 2. Sure them Tyronies can't win an Ulster club to save their lives but they can beat rings round them at intercounty.
Be careful what you wish for :)
A quick question to brokencrossbar1 I was wondering what your youth setup is like within the club. Is the club as successful at minor and u 16 level and what grade do they play at?
Quote from: ogshead on February 23, 2012, 09:51:14 AM
Quote from: armaghranger12 on February 23, 2012, 09:27:31 AM
Quote from: ogshead on February 23, 2012, 12:13:19 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2012, 09:55:03 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on February 22, 2012, 06:01:31 PM
Wonder what Armagh county team would be like if we had 6 or 7 clubs as dedicated as Cross.
Bit harsh. I know the Ogs are very dedicated and are IMO a top team in Ulster when at full strength.
Didn't Jarlath Burns say a few months ago after Cross beat St Galls that we were the second best team in Ireland!! Haha But seriously I know the lads in our club do put in a serious effort and will be going all out to give Cross a rattle this year (they have a tough game against Granemore to come first though) and there are quality players there too that have made the county panel. I think Armaghgeddon is getting dedication mixed up with belief, never say die attitude and hunger for success.
I think there are a couple of other clubs in the county that on their day could beat Cross in a championship match as well. Cullyhanna nearly beat them in 2010 and Granemore and the Nab (not including 2011 final) are improving big time year on year. Dromintee have missed the boat though I think. The point I am trying to make though is that there are a few teams in Armagh who would do quite well in the Ulster championship if they eventually got there.
Are u serious Granemore? They couldn't even beat the Nab who Cross give a footballing lesson to. Cullyhanna had cross beat but could finish then off and cross won. So many times down the years Cross were on the verge of been beat Ogs Dromintee Harps all had the chances but hadn't got the bottle to finish the game off.
I don't think that any team in Armagh would give Ulster a real go at the start of the season their goals have to be to try and win the Armagh Championship not an Ulster. Ogs didn't care if they beat St Galls or not they were just happy with the County and rightly so.
Your not taking this in the right context. I said that Granemore and the Nab are improving every year and what you said about the Ogs, Harps etc having their chances but 'hadn't got the bottle', well the Ogs beating them proves that if you keep plugging away a win will come. Surely Cullyhanna would take heart from that.
In terms of the Ulster I meant that we have good teams in the county but because Cross dominate we don't see them on the Ulster stage. I wouldn't say the Ogs cared about the St Galls match either... it wasn't their goal at the start of that year but when they got there they wanted to beat them
But are Cross teams not also improving year after year? Before last year's win Jd, The Mc Entees, Cathal Short all retired after the Ogs defeat. Fair enough John mc came back (Thank God) but that was a very inexperienced team that was looking to get back their county title. Now look where these boys are second All Ireland in a row and take hearty and Oisin out the oldest player are Stephen Kernan and followed by Aaron. That's a young team in footballing terms.
Quote from: ballymac on February 23, 2012, 02:00:42 PM
A quick question to brokencrossbar1 I was wondering what your youth setup is like within the club. Is the club as successful at minor and u 16 level and what grade do they play at?
Cross underage take part in the top tier of all competitions, last year they had a good under 12/13 team, their u14 won the county Feila and where beat by Killeavy in Championship and league final (Could be wrong). The under16 where very weak and minors where beat by a good Cullyhanna minor team. Finally the U21's where beat by Clans in the quarter-finals but it was played 4 days before the Ulster club Semi against Ballinderry and young Morgan wasn't played.
All in all cross underage is not bad but the structure and managers is top class.
Quote from: armaghranger12 on February 23, 2012, 09:27:31 AM
Are u serious Granemore? They couldn't even beat the Nab who Cross give a footballing lesson to. Cullyhanna had cross beat but could finish then off and cross won. So many times down the years Cross were on the verge of been beat Ogs Dromintee Harps all had the chances but hadn't got the bottle to finish the game off.
I don't think that any team in Armagh would give Ulster a real go at the start of the season their goals have to be to try and win the Armagh Championship not an Ulster. Ogs didn't care if they beat St Galls or not they were just happy with the County and rightly so.
I think it would be naive to judge Armagh football on last year's final result. The Nab simply froze on the day and got hammered. The semi against Granemore was their real final IMO, parish rivalry and all that.
I still maintain Pearse Og are as good a team in Ulster and would be winning championships in any of the other counties. No other county has a club like Cross in it. When push comes to shove Cross know how to win games, saying teams like Cullyhanna, Harps etc don't have the bottle to win is a bit unfair. Cross never know when they're beat, Kilmacud Crokes and Dr Crokes this year and last proves that point.
QuoteAll in all cross underage is not bad but the structure and managers is top class.
They have all the children off handpassing for Lent.
If only we beat them in 1997 things could've been different. :P
in fairness Garrycastle must be lapping this up. A complete hero whorship scenario in terms Cossmaglen. I think this hubris on the part of the Nordie team will backfire.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 25, 2012, 08:27:59 AM
in fairness Garrycastle must be lapping this up. A complete hero whorship scenario in terms Cossmaglen. I think this hubris on the part of the Nordie team will backfire.
Aye after 15 years it might some day :)
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 25, 2012, 08:27:59 AM
in fairness Garrycastle must be lapping this up. A complete hero whorship scenario in terms Cossmaglen. I think this hubris on the part of the Nordie team will backfire.
When another teams produces the goods like Crossmaglen have done over a prolonged period, I'm sure they'll be equalled feted.