What is going on with our Kerry colleagues? Dr Crokes have requested that supporters be segregated for their All Ireland semi final clash with Crossmaglen Rangers in Portlaoise on Sunday week.
I think this is an outrageous request that goes against the whole ethos of GAA.
A very very small number of our games result in trouble between supporters and the GAA Supporters of all counties and clubs are rightly lauded for their ability to mix freely at games without incident.
This is pure gamesmanship designed to put pressure on their opponents.
The over the top reaction to events at last week's game also reflect poorly on Kerry GAA people. Having looked at the video I can say with confidence that the incident looked much worse than it actually was. I agree fully that the Derrytresk subs and supporters who got over the barrier acted shamefully and deserve the maximum punishment possible under rule and if Gardai have grounds to act they should do so.
But most of what happened was either shoving/pushing or trying to pull lads away.
Dromid haven't helped their cause with their hysterical media comments.
One would think this type of thing never happened in Kerry when the opposite is true. I can recall an incident a few years ago between two neighbouring South Kerry Clubs who are located only a stones throw from Dromid that ended up in a court of law over a vicious assault.
Kerry are rightly considered football purists but they have had their fair share of club incidents down the years and always had a few hatchet men to shore up their back line. If my memory serves me right their great team of the seventies were involved in a running battle v Dublin in New York (?).
Ridiculous comments from Crokes, but just this :
Quotehis type of thing never happened in Kerry when the opposite is true. I can recall an incident a few years ago between two neighbouring South Kerry Clubs who are located only a stones throw from Dromid that ended up in a court of law over a vicious assault.
The incident you speak of did end up in a court of law, and was thrown out. Also it was between two players, not substitutes or supporters.
I do agree with you regarding the comments in the media though, I think they've played that badly, but they are certainly angry and taken aback at what happened. But there are certainly rows down in Kerry, and bad belts. Probably not as much bad off the ball stuff as elsewhere, and certainly very little, if any trouble on sidelines.
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 09:22:00 AM
Ridiculous comments from Crokes, but just this :
Quotehis type of thing never happened in Kerry when the opposite is true. I can recall an incident a few years ago between two neighbouring South Kerry Clubs who are located only a stones throw from Dromid that ended up in a court of law over a vicious assault.
The incident you speak of did end up in a court of law, and was thrown out. Also it was between two players, not substitutes or supporters.
I do agree with you regarding the comments in the media though, I think they've played that badly, but they are certainly angry and taken aback at what happened. But there are certainly rows down in Kerry, and bad belts. Probably not as much bad off the ball stuff as elsewhere, and certainly very little, if any trouble on sidelines.
if I rem correctly there is bad blood between dromid and waterville - if not caherciveen also.
no lack of 'action' when they play each other from what a few waterville lads told me a number of years ago.
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 26, 2012, 09:42:05 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 09:22:00 AM
Ridiculous comments from Crokes, but just this :
Quotehis type of thing never happened in Kerry when the opposite is true. I can recall an incident a few years ago between two neighbouring South Kerry Clubs who are located only a stones throw from Dromid that ended up in a court of law over a vicious assault.
The incident you speak of did end up in a court of law, and was thrown out. Also it was between two players, not substitutes or supporters.
I do agree with you regarding the comments in the media though, I think they've played that badly, but they are certainly angry and taken aback at what happened. But there are certainly rows down in Kerry, and bad belts. Probably not as much bad off the ball stuff as elsewhere, and certainly very little, if any trouble on sidelines.
if I rem correctly there is bad blood between dromid and waterville - if not caherciveen also.
no lack of 'action' when they play each other from what a few waterville lads told me a number of years ago.
Only in the normal sense of local rivalry Lynchbhoy. Nothing comparable. I've been at a lot of their games. Waterville is a half parish of Dromid, and there's been player movement between them so they are definitely games with an edge, but that's normal in my experience. We'd have the same with Shannonbridge or Clara in Offaly.
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 09:22:00 AM
. Probably not as much bad off the ball stuff as elsewhere, and certainly very little, if any trouble on sidelines.
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THE Munster Colleges' Council is set to investigate the disgraceful scenes that marred the end of an U16½ colleges Gaelic football final between St Brendan's Killarney and Tralee CBS at Austin Stack Park, Tralee.
Brendan's won the game 3-13 to 2-11 to claim the Frewen Cup but as soon as the final whistle was sounded, a number of the Tralee supporters who were in the stand rushed onto the pitch and proceeded in mob-like fashion to attack and kick a number of the Killarney players.
Very poor form from Crokes here in my opinion. The actions of a few people from once club doesn't suddenly mean that what we saw in Portlaoise last Sunday is going to become commonplace. Mixing of fans and the banter between them is one of the best aspects of Gaelic Games and long may it continue.
Crokes are also opening themselves up for criticism by the fact that they're saying it should happen for this game.
That's a clear and unwarranted insult to Crossmaglen, whereas at least if they were saying it should be done for all matches, including Kerry SFC games, then it would be no less crazy but it would at least be less offensive.
Fair enough. I'm not saying it has never happened in Kerry, but I've certainly never seen it down there, involving supporters, mentors and subs. But I'm sure it happens the odd time. : Edit, I've read that link now. It's from 2007. I think there was a row down there in 1976 as well. I must check microfiche in the library.
It does happen from time to time all over the country, but it doesn't make any of it right, and the more often piddling suspensions are handed down, the more often it will continue to happen.
Shame on Dr Crokes. Absolutely disgraceful. We knew Kerry men were bad losers but never before games.
I hadn't realised that Dr Crokes and Derrytresk were so close, what a masterstroke!
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 09:22:00 AM
Ridiculous comments from Crokes, but just this :
Quotehis type of thing never happened in Kerry when the opposite is true. I can recall an incident a few years ago between two neighbouring South Kerry Clubs who are located only a stones throw from Dromid that ended up in a court of law over a vicious assault.
The incident you speak of did end up in a court of law, and was thrown out. Also it was between two players, not substitutes or supporters.
I do agree with you regarding the comments in the media though, I think they've played that badly, but they are certainly angry and taken aback at what happened. But there are certainly rows down in Kerry, and bad belts. Probably not as much bad off the ball stuff as elsewhere, and certainly very little, if any trouble on sidelines.
Really? Do you really believe this?
Kerry football will be under the spotlight in the coming years - lets hope they keep their noses as clean as clean can be. I think the behaviour of both teams on Sunday was plainly out of order and Derrytresk need to take a massive share of that blame for not contolling their bench, but to claim that Kerry football has never ever experienced this kind of thing is just nonsense. I played with many Kerry lads in America and some of the stories they enjoyed regaling certainly contradicts what your purist vision of Kerry football is.
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2012, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 09:22:00 AM
Ridiculous comments from Crokes, but just this :
Quotehis type of thing never happened in Kerry when the opposite is true. I can recall an incident a few years ago between two neighbouring South Kerry Clubs who are located only a stones throw from Dromid that ended up in a court of law over a vicious assault.
The incident you speak of did end up in a court of law, and was thrown out. Also it was between two players, not substitutes or supporters.
I do agree with you regarding the comments in the media though, I think they've played that badly, but they are certainly angry and taken aback at what happened. But there are certainly rows down in Kerry, and bad belts. Probably not as much bad off the ball stuff as elsewhere, and certainly very little, if any trouble on sidelines.
Really? Do you really believe this?
Kerry football will be under the spotlight in the coming years - lets hope they keep their noses as clean as clean can be. I think the behaviour of both teams on Sunday was plainly out of order and Derrytresk need to take a massive share of that blame for not contolling their bench, but to claim that Kerry football has never ever experienced this kind of thing is just nonsense. I played with many Kerry lads in America and some of the stories they enjoyed regaling certainly contradicts what your purist vision of Kerry football is.
I actually do. I played a small bit down there, and I didn't receive half as much off the ball stuff as I did up in Offaly. I'm sure it does happen, but again, I think in general it's not endemic.
As for the supporters lark, I never suggested that it doesn't happen, just that it certainly doesn't happen often, and I have never seen it at any Dromid game, nor heard of it at any Dromid game.
Look, despite their bleating about Kerry purer than pure football, which is obviously nonsense, I do think what happened at the weekend is something that is not common, nor expected down there.
I too have been at Kerry Club games down the years - always an enjoyable experience and by and large games always played in the right spirit.
This week though reflects very poorly on the Kingdom, this whinging to the media is distasteful in the extreme and I must say, as a Leinster man, the attempts to portray Ulster football as the demons of the GAA smacks of petty jealousy.
At inter county level Tyrone have given Kerry a horrid time in recent years while Cross have consistently been head and shoulders about the Kerry Champions.
It has all the sound of begrudgery at the cheek of those northerners to refuse to roll over at the sight of Kerry jerseys. Those days are over.
Me thinks that this isn't the silly move that most are making out.
Crokes have a game to win - they probably realise that their best or only chance of winning the game is a shoot out between the 2 forward lines.
So the pressure is now on the GAA and in particular the referee to ensure that the game is a nice, clean, disciplined game of football.
It could well still backfire on Crokes.
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 10:08:51 AM
Fair enough. I'm not saying it has never happened in Kerry, but I've certainly never seen it down there, involving supporters, mentors and subs.....
http://www.kerryman.ie/news/gaa-to-probe-attack-on-referee-567497.html (http://www.kerryman.ie/news/gaa-to-probe-attack-on-referee-567497.html)
GAA to probe attack on refereeA DARK cloud of violence is hovering over the GAA after loutish Skellig Rangers fans subjected a South Kerry referee to a terrifying ordeal at the weekend. A mob of incensed fans raced onto the pitch following the South Kerry minor championship final which saw Waterville defeat Skellig Rangers by one point.Over 20 fans attacked match referee Michael Curran of Dromid PearsesBy Sinead Kelleher....
....The referee was put through what he described as a 'frightening' ordeal which included being 'kung fu' kicked in the stomach.
....A spokesperson for the South Kerry Board admitted that incidents such as this were becoming more common and that the element of sport is gone is going out of championship matches....
...This is the second incident involving violence against a referee in a week. The referee was also attacked following the East Kerry minor championship semi-final in which Spa defeated Dr Crokes, by a single point. This incident is also being investigated by the East Kerry Board."..
Quote from: Nally Stand on January 26, 2012, 10:42:20 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 10:08:51 AM
Fair enough. I'm not saying it has never happened in Kerry, but I've certainly never seen it down there, involving supporters, mentors and subs.....
http://www.kerryman.ie/news/gaa-to-probe-attack-on-referee-567497.html (http://www.kerryman.ie/news/gaa-to-probe-attack-on-referee-567497.html)
GAA to probe attack on referee
A DARK cloud of violence is hovering over the GAA after loutish Skellig Rangers fans subjected a South Kerry referee to a terrifying ordeal at the weekend. A mob of incensed fans raced onto the pitch following the South Kerry minor championship final which saw Waterville defeat Skellig Rangers by one point.Over 20 fans attacked match referee Michael Curran of Dromid PearsesBy Sinead Kelleher....
....The referee was put through what he described as a 'frightening' ordeal which included being 'kung f*' kicked in the stomach.
....A spokesperson for the South Kerry Board admitted that incidents such as this were becoming more common and that the element of sport is gone is going out of championship matches....
...This is the second incident involving violence against a referee in a week. The referee was also attacked following the East Kerry minor championship semi-final in which Spa defeated Dr Crokes, by a single point. This incident is also being investigated by the East Kerry Board."..
I don't understand what you are trying to say. I never saw that minor game in 2006. I've already said it happens from time to time, but I've never seen it down there. Am I supposed to go digging for episodes involving Tyrone Clubs or something? What's the point in that?
I am saying that this is NOT a common occurence, that I've never seen it in Kerry, and it is not surprising to me that the people directly involved are taken aback by it.
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 10:37:30 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2012, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 09:22:00 AM
Ridiculous comments from Crokes, but just this :
Quotehis type of thing never happened in Kerry when the opposite is true. I can recall an incident a few years ago between two neighbouring South Kerry Clubs who are located only a stones throw from Dromid that ended up in a court of law over a vicious assault.
The incident you speak of did end up in a court of law, and was thrown out. Also it was between two players, not substitutes or supporters.
I do agree with you regarding the comments in the media though, I think they've played that badly, but they are certainly angry and taken aback at what happened. But there are certainly rows down in Kerry, and bad belts. Probably not as much bad off the ball stuff as elsewhere, and certainly very little, if any trouble on sidelines.
Really? Do you really believe this?
Kerry football will be under the spotlight in the coming years - lets hope they keep their noses as clean as clean can be. I think the behaviour of both teams on Sunday was plainly out of order and Derrytresk need to take a massive share of that blame for not contolling their bench, but to claim that Kerry football has never ever experienced this kind of thing is just nonsense. I played with many Kerry lads in America and some of the stories they enjoyed regaling certainly contradicts what your purist vision of Kerry football is.
I actually do. I played a small bit down there, and I didn't receive half as much off the ball stuff as I did up in Offaly. I'm sure it does happen, but again, I think in general it's not endemic.
As for the supporters lark, I never suggested that it doesn't happen, just that it certainly doesn't happen often, and I have never seen it at any Dromid game, nor heard of it at any Dromid game.
Look, despite their bleating about Kerry purer than pure football, which is obviously nonsense, I do think what happened at the weekend is something that is not common, nor expected down there.
Well, i spent 23 years of my life playing club football in Tyrone and I can tell you now that i can count on one hand the number of games that i have been to and played in that had instances like this. It is most definately not endemic as you suggest but again, lazy comments from people with little experience of the issue can cause people to arrive at the view you clearly have.
Thats not to say the GAA in Tyrone has no problems to deal with and like any organisation with so many members it has its fair share of nutcases. But it is grossly unfair for Tyrone football to be tarnished in the way it has been while Kerry football retains some sort of holier than thou image perpetuated by people like you, with your matter of fact statements, who have limited knowledge of either counties.
An open insult to the Crossmaglen club, Crokes much be dreading this match to make such a statement.
Shameful coverage of the incident last sunday. However lets hope that the GAA base their decisions on the evidence in the video and not on the newspaper coverage.
I also seem to remember a recent All Ireland Final where a Kerry player assaulted an opposing player within seconds of the throw in. A premediated assult, it passed with a whimper and no action.
Let the quilty from both teams be punished for last week and base it on the evidence.
Come on the Cross!
Nobody is saying it is common, but it happens a lot more in Kerry than some would have us believe. The article quoted above refers to that attack being the "second incident involving violence against a referee in a week."
and...
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/REF+ATTACKED+BY+MOB+GOES+BACK+TO+SCHOOL%3B+OUR+MATCH+SHAME+BY+GAA...-a0107453680 (http://www.thefreelibrary.com/REF+ATTACKED+BY+MOB+GOES+BACK+TO+SCHOOL%3B+OUR+MATCH+SHAME+BY+GAA...-a0107453680)
REF ATTACKED BY MOB GOES BACK TO SCHOOL; OUR MATCH SHAME BY GAA BOSSES.
"A TEACHER assaulted by fans after refereeing a hurling match at the weekend is expected to return to school this morning. Colleagues said Gearoid O'Regan was in good form despite his harrowing ordeal.
Mr O'Regan, who teaches in Banagher Community College in Co Offaly, was attacked by a player and fans in front of 3,000 spectators at the end of a hurling championship match on Sunday.
The referee was attacked at Austin Stack Park in Kerry by fans who ran on to the pitch at the end of the game. He was then assaulted a second time by four people in the dressing room area."
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2012, 10:47:51 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 10:37:30 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2012, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 09:22:00 AM
Ridiculous comments from Crokes, but just this :
Quotehis type of thing never happened in Kerry when the opposite is true. I can recall an incident a few years ago between two neighbouring South Kerry Clubs who are located only a stones throw from Dromid that ended up in a court of law over a vicious assault.
The incident you speak of did end up in a court of law, and was thrown out. Also it was between two players, not substitutes or supporters.
I do agree with you regarding the comments in the media though, I think they've played that badly, but they are certainly angry and taken aback at what happened. But there are certainly rows down in Kerry, and bad belts. Probably not as much bad off the ball stuff as elsewhere, and certainly very little, if any trouble on sidelines.
Really? Do you really believe this?
Kerry football will be under the spotlight in the coming years - lets hope they keep their noses as clean as clean can be. I think the behaviour of both teams on Sunday was plainly out of order and Derrytresk need to take a massive share of that blame for not contolling their bench, but to claim that Kerry football has never ever experienced this kind of thing is just nonsense. I played with many Kerry lads in America and some of the stories they enjoyed regaling certainly contradicts what your purist vision of Kerry football is.
I actually do. I played a small bit down there, and I didn't receive half as much off the ball stuff as I did up in Offaly. I'm sure it does happen, but again, I think in general it's not endemic.
As for the supporters lark, I never suggested that it doesn't happen, just that it certainly doesn't happen often, and I have never seen it at any Dromid game, nor heard of it at any Dromid game.
Look, despite their bleating about Kerry purer than pure football, which is obviously nonsense, I do think what happened at the weekend is something that is not common, nor expected down there.
Well, i spent 23 years of my life playing club football in Tyrone and I can tell you now that i can count on one hand the number of games that i have been to and played in that had instances like this. It is most definately not endemic as you suggest but again, lazy comments from people with little experience of the issue can cause people to arrive at the view you clearly have.
Thats not to say the GAA in Tyrone has no problems to deal with and like any organisation with so many members it has its fair share of nutcases. But it is grossly unfair for Tyrone football to be tarnished in the way it has been while Kerry football retains some sort of holier than thou image perpetuated by people like you with your matter of fact statements who has limited knowledge of either counties.
Hang on. I never said it was endemic in Tyrone either. I'm speaking about Kerry, and I have more than limited knowledge of Kerry to be fair. I've spent quite a bit of time down there. What I am trying to do is explain why they might have been so taken aback by what happened on Sunday.
I have also never said Kerry football is holier than thou, or anyone else. They play the same game the rest of us do, and give and take the same belts on the field as anyone else. I do think there is less off the ball stuff and intimidation down there than in other place, including other places I've played. I'm wasn't even talking or thinking about Tyrone.
To the best of my knowledge, Dromid Pearses have never been involved in a day like last Sunday, and I think that is why they are going over the top in their reaction in the media. I think they are wrong to do so, but I am trying to put a bit of balance against those who are calling them sore losers. They are not sore losers in my opinion, they've been beaten loads of times in important games and have never suggested anything other than the usual 'ref rode us' that we all do.
So, all I'm saying is what happened on Sunday is not a common thing in Kerry, I've never seen Dromid involved in anything like it, and I believe, and still do, that there is not a culture of off the ball stuff like what has been alleged, in Kerry. Which is why I think Dromid reacted the way they have.
I say all the above without even mentioning Tyrone, Armagh, Ulster, or anywhere else.
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The whole point of this topic is to highlight the hypocrisy of the media statements emanating from Kerry this week.
There was a very bad breakdown in discipline last week but the kerry angle is of complete shock, that it was unheard of down there way. The statements were sanctimonious and self serving.
Tyrone and Cross do not deserve to be subjected to these cynical attacks on their character or on their units.
Where do you stop with this megaphone stuff?
Kerry folk should recall the Kennelly incident at the start of an All Ireland Final and their poor disciplinary record in recent times before going to the pulpit and preaching.
They would do themselves far more credit by leaving the matter to the proper authorities to deal with instead of issuing press releases.
If they have serious concerns let them bring forward motions to amend the GAA disciplinary code (which maybe wouldn't be such a bad idea).
Bad enough the Club doing it but the County Chairman rowing in too and volunteering to assist an investigation!
Quote from: Give and Go on January 26, 2012, 11:01:06 AM
The whole point of this topic is to highlight the hypocrisy of the media statements emanating from Kerry this week.
There was a very bad breakdown in discipline last week but the kerry angle is of complete shock, that it was unheard of down there way. The statements were sanctimonious and self serving.
Tyrone and Cross do not deserve to be subjected to these cynical attacks on their character or on their units.
Where do you stop with this megaphone stuff?
Kerry folk should recall the Kennelly incident at the start of an All Ireland Final and their poor disciplinary record in recent times before going to the pulpit and preaching.
They would do themselves far more credit by leaving the matter to the proper authorities to deal with instead of issuing press releases.
If they have serious concerns let them bring forward motions to amend the GAA disciplinary code (which maybe wouldn't be such a bad idea).
Bad enough the Club doing it but the County Chairman rowing in too and volunteering to assist an investigation!
I agree with all of that. And I particularly agree about Tyrone and Cross, and that they should just stall the digger down there now. As I said before, I'm sure that in 6 months time quite a few people will be a bit embarassed about some of their public comments, which actually take away from the facts of the matter on Sunday.
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2012, 10:47:51 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 10:37:30 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2012, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 09:22:00 AM
Ridiculous comments from Crokes, but just this :
Quotehis type of thing never happened in Kerry when the opposite is true. I can recall an incident a few years ago between two neighbouring South Kerry Clubs who are located only a stones throw from Dromid that ended up in a court of law over a vicious assault.
The incident you speak of did end up in a court of law, and was thrown out. Also it was between two players, not substitutes or supporters.
I do agree with you regarding the comments in the media though, I think they've played that badly, but they are certainly angry and taken aback at what happened. But there are certainly rows down in Kerry, and bad belts. Probably not as much bad off the ball stuff as elsewhere, and certainly very little, if any trouble on sidelines.
Really? Do you really believe this?
Kerry football will be under the spotlight in the coming years - lets hope they keep their noses as clean as clean can be. I think the behaviour of both teams on Sunday was plainly out of order and Derrytresk need to take a massive share of that blame for not contolling their bench, but to claim that Kerry football has never ever experienced this kind of thing is just nonsense. I played with many Kerry lads in America and some of the stories they enjoyed regaling certainly contradicts what your purist vision of Kerry football is.
I actually do. I played a small bit down there, and I didn't receive half as much off the ball stuff as I did up in Offaly. I'm sure it does happen, but again, I think in general it's not endemic.
As for the supporters lark, I never suggested that it doesn't happen, just that it certainly doesn't happen often, and I have never seen it at any Dromid game, nor heard of it at any Dromid game.
Look, despite their bleating about Kerry purer than pure football, which is obviously nonsense, I do think what happened at the weekend is something that is not common, nor expected down there.
Well, i spent 23 years of my life playing club football in Tyrone and I can tell you now that i can count on one hand the number of games that i have been to and played in that had instances like this. It is most definately not endemic as you suggest but again, lazy comments from people with little experience of the issue can cause people to arrive at the view you clearly have.
Thats not to say the GAA in Tyrone has no problems to deal with and like any organisation with so many members it has its fair share of nutcases. But it is grossly unfair for Tyrone football to be tarnished in the way it has been while Kerry football retains some sort of holier than thou image perpetuated by people like you with your matter of fact statements who has limited knowledge of either counties.
Hang on. I never said it was endemic in Tyrone either. I'm speaking about Kerry, and I have more than limited knowledge of Kerry to be fair. I've spent quite a bit of time down there. What I am trying to do is explain why they might have been so taken aback by what happened on Sunday.
I have also never said Kerry football is holier than thou, or anyone else. They play the same game the rest of us do, and give and take the same belts on the field as anyone else. I do think there is less off the ball stuff and intimidation down there than in other place, including other places I've played. I'm wasn't even talking or thinking about Tyrone.
To the best of my knowledge, Dromid Pearses have never been involved in a day like last Sunday, and I think that is why they are going over the top in their reaction in the media. I think they are wrong to do so, but I am trying to put a bit of balance against those who are calling them sore losers. They are not sore losers in my opinion, they've been beaten loads of times in important games and have never suggested anything other than the usual 'ref rode us' that we all do.
So, all I'm saying is what happened on Sunday is not a common thing in Kerry, I've never seen Dromid involved in anything like it, and I believe, and still do, that there is not a culture of off the ball stuff like what has been alleged, in Kerry. Which is why I think Dromid reacted the way they have.
I say all the above without even mentioning Tyrone, Armagh, Ulster, or anywhere else.
So where is it endemic then?
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:03:46 AM
Quote from: Give and Go on January 26, 2012, 11:01:06 AM
The whole point of this topic is to highlight the hypocrisy of the media statements emanating from Kerry this week.
There was a very bad breakdown in discipline last week but the kerry angle is of complete shock, that it was unheard of down there way. The statements were sanctimonious and self serving.
Tyrone and Cross do not deserve to be subjected to these cynical attacks on their character or on their units.
Where do you stop with this megaphone stuff?
Kerry folk should recall the Kennelly incident at the start of an All Ireland Final and their poor disciplinary record in recent times before going to the pulpit and preaching.
They would do themselves far more credit by leaving the matter to the proper authorities to deal with instead of issuing press releases.
If they have serious concerns let them bring forward motions to amend the GAA disciplinary code (which maybe wouldn't be such a bad idea).
Bad enough the Club doing it but the County Chairman rowing in too and volunteering to assist an investigation!
I agree with all of that. And I particularly agree about Tyrone and Cross, and that they should just stall the digger down there now. As I said before, I'm sure that in 6 months time quite a few people will be a bit embarassed about some of their public comments, which actually take away from the facts of the matter on Sunday.
Leave them at it I say, we know that they love to talk so give them their forums, let them talk till the cows need milked.
I don't know where it is endemic. All I said was it is not endemic in Kerry. I'm explaining why Dromid were 'caught on the hop' if they experienced what they said they experienced. I am not having a dig at Tyrone or anywhere else. I would say that I experienced more off the ball stuff in Offaly, and in my opinion there is more bad blood at games in other counties that I have attended, (none in Ulster, relax) than I've seen in Kerry.
AZ, take off the blinkers. kerry football is as bad as anywhere else. The holier than thou s**te is unreal. If there are punishments from the dromid game, then they themselves will also have to receive a hefty part of them - they were very far from an innocent party.
The two clubs are making a holy show of themselves, and I hope they come to realise that and regret it. I also hope cross annihilate crokes and shove this shite down their throats
Quote from: Give and Go on January 26, 2012, 11:01:06 AM
Bad enough the Club doing it but the County Chairman rowing in too and volunteering to assist an investigation!
He can hardly talk, as he was the guy who ended up on his arse in front of the tunnel at half time in the 2008 All Ireland Final after 'bumping' into a member of the Tyrone party.
No blinkers on. It's my honest opinion. And unless you've spent a lot of time in Kerry, I'm guessing I've more experience of Kerry football than you have. Also, I agree that Dromid will probably get suspensions out of any investigation, but the subs that came in will be heavily sanctioned I'm guessing. But I think we've discussed all that already :D
Quote from: cornafean on January 26, 2012, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: Give and Go on January 26, 2012, 11:01:06 AM
Bad enough the Club doing it but the County Chairman rowing in too and volunteering to assist an investigation!
He can hardly talk, as he was the guy who ended up on his arse in front of the tunnel at half time in the 2008 All Ireland Final after 'bumping' into a member of the Tyrone party.
Is it the same guy?
I hope cross give them the hiding they deserve. Disgrace. Everyone at Dr Crokes should be ashamed
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:08:49 AM
I don't know where it is endemic. All I said was it is not endemic in Kerry. I'm explaining why Dromid were 'caught on the hop' if they experienced what they said they experienced. I am not having a dig at Tyrone or anywhere else. I would say that I experienced more off the ball stuff in Offaly, and in my opinion there is more bad blood at games in other counties that I have attended, (none in Ulster, relax) than I've seen in Kerry.
Caught on the hop? Dromid started the whole disgraceful scenes off. Derrytresk never should have let it get out of hand, but don't be making out that Dromid were innocent lambs in the headlights.
Quote from: hardstation on January 26, 2012, 11:22:56 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on January 26, 2012, 11:22:03 AM
I hope cross give them the hiding they deserve. Disgrace. Everyone at Dr Crokes should be ashamed
+ 1
What a stroke to pull.
The more I read that Crokes statement, the more I am amazed. What were they thinking? Eejits. And if they actually believe it, then I feel sorry for them.
Quote from: ziggysego on January 26, 2012, 11:25:17 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:08:49 AM
I don't know where it is endemic. All I said was it is not endemic in Kerry. I'm explaining why Dromid were 'caught on the hop' if they experienced what they said they experienced. I am not having a dig at Tyrone or anywhere else. I would say that I experienced more off the ball stuff in Offaly, and in my opinion there is more bad blood at games in other counties that I have attended, (none in Ulster, relax) than I've seen in Kerry.
Caught on the hop? Dromid started the whole disgraceful scenes off. Derrytresk never should have let it get out of hand, but don't be making out that Dromid were innocent lambs in the headlights.
I'm not talking about the row alone. And please note I said " if they experienced what they said they experienced."
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:21:56 AM
Quote from: cornafean on January 26, 2012, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: Give and Go on January 26, 2012, 11:01:06 AM
Bad enough the Club doing it but the County Chairman rowing in too and volunteering to assist an investigation!
He can hardly talk, as he was the guy who ended up on his arse in front of the tunnel at half time in the 2008 All Ireland Final after 'bumping' into a member of the Tyrone party.
Is it the same guy?
Same guy.
Even more ridiculous then.
AZ, I know you have more experience of Kerry football than I have but my first experience of playing against them began with me ending on the flat of my back seeing tweetie birds after getting a Judas thump after 2 minutes in an AI semi final. I took it and gave it back with interest, as is my right :D, and that was 15 years ago. During the same game a Kerry AI winning captain, who didn't start the final, pulled and hauled Oisin McConvilles jersey till he ripped it and he cleaned him out on at least 2 occassions. They have been doing it for years but like I said to you yesterday one mans cynical is another mans cute hoorism and thats what they have played on over the years and by starting each sentence with Yerra in a nice Kerry lilt it endears them to a lot of people.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2012, 11:31:19 AM
AZ, I know you have more experience of Kerry football than I have but my first experience of playing against them began with me ending on the flat of my back seeing tweetie birds after getting a Judas thump after 2 minutes in an AI semi final. I took it and gave it back with interest, as is my right :D, and that was 15 years ago. During the same game a Kerry AI winning captain, who didn't start the final, pulled and hauled Oisin McConvilles jersey till he ripped it and he cleaned him out on at least 2 occassions. They have been doing it for years but like I said to you yesterday one mans cynical is another mans cute hoorism and thats what they have played on over the years and by starting each sentence with Yerra in a nice Kerry lilt it endears them to a lot of people.
Yeah, but you deserved it, 'elbows'.
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:26:18 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on January 26, 2012, 11:25:17 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:08:49 AM
I don't know where it is endemic. All I said was it is not endemic in Kerry. I'm explaining why Dromid were 'caught on the hop' if they experienced what they said they experienced. I am not having a dig at Tyrone or anywhere else. I would say that I experienced more off the ball stuff in Offaly, and in my opinion there is more bad blood at games in other counties that I have attended, (none in Ulster, relax) than I've seen in Kerry.
Caught on the hop? Dromid started the whole disgraceful scenes off. Derrytresk never should have let it get out of hand, but don't be making out that Dromid were innocent lambs in the headlights.
I'm not talking about the row alone. And please note I said " if they experienced what they said they experienced."
So, you are implying that Derrytresk are in some way used to this sort of behaviour and therefore are more experienced in dealing with the aftermath. But because Dromid were completely unaware that this sort of thing happened then they were "caught on the hop" and therefore reacted by running to the media. Have i now picked up the thread of your argument correctly?
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2012, 11:33:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:26:18 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on January 26, 2012, 11:25:17 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:08:49 AM
I don't know where it is endemic. All I said was it is not endemic in Kerry. I'm explaining why Dromid were 'caught on the hop' if they experienced what they said they experienced. I am not having a dig at Tyrone or anywhere else. I would say that I experienced more off the ball stuff in Offaly, and in my opinion there is more bad blood at games in other counties that I have attended, (none in Ulster, relax) than I've seen in Kerry.
Caught on the hop? Dromid started the whole disgraceful scenes off. Derrytresk never should have let it get out of hand, but don't be making out that Dromid were innocent lambs in the headlights.
I'm not talking about the row alone. And please note I said " if they experienced what they said they experienced."
So, you are implying that Derrytresk are in some way used to this sort of behaviour and therefore are more experienced in dealing with the aftermath. But because Dromid were completely unaware that this sort of thing happened then they were "caught on the hop" and therefore reacted by running to the media. Have i now picked up the thread of your argument correctly?
What?? Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I'm trying to explain Dromid's reaction (wrong and all as it is IMO) to SUNDAY. I've no idea about what Derrytresk are used to. Dromid said they received some unacceptable behaviour on Sunday, and we've all seen the Derrytresk subs jump the wall in the row. Now, is that something that they do regularly? Not a clue. Is it something Dromid have faced regularly? No. Did it surprise them? Yes.
That's all I'm saying. Why do you think I'm saying anything about Tyrone? I certainly think Derrytresk were more in the wrong on Sunday, but the CCCC will clear that up for us I suppose. I might be wrong. By the way, if I wanted to 'imply' anything, I'd say it outright. Not everything is a shot at Tyrone you know.
Sure when I get tired of winding them up about 1982 in Kerry, I switch to 'Come on Tyrone, Come on Tyrone' etc. I'm not a Tyrone hater :D
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:33:25 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2012, 11:31:19 AM
AZ, I know you have more experience of Kerry football than I have but my first experience of playing against them began with me ending on the flat of my back seeing tweetie birds after getting a Judas thump after 2 minutes in an AI semi final. I took it and gave it back with interest, as is my right :D, and that was 15 years ago. During the same game a Kerry AI winning captain, who didn't start the final, pulled and hauled Oisin McConvilles jersey till he ripped it and he cleaned him out on at least 2 occassions. They have been doing it for years but like I said to you yesterday one mans cynical is another mans cute hoorism and thats what they have played on over the years and by starting each sentence with Yerra in a nice Kerry lilt it endears them to a lot of people.
Yeah, but you deserved it, 'elbows'.
Not too many elebows in 2 minutes!!!
Quote from: hardstation on January 26, 2012, 11:22:56 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on January 26, 2012, 11:22:03 AM
I hope cross give them the hiding they deserve. Disgrace. Everyone at Dr Crokes should be ashamed
+ 1
What a stroke to pull.
Aye, hope they destroy them now. Crokes just went from the most unpopular club in Kerry to possibly the most in Ireland
Quote from: hardstation on January 26, 2012, 11:41:07 AM
Derrytresk subs have just released a statement:
"We were surprised when we saw someone hit our clipboard man. We are not used to this and this may help explain our reaction, which we admit was wrong."
Possibly.
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:36:59 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2012, 11:33:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:26:18 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on January 26, 2012, 11:25:17 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:08:49 AM
I don't know where it is endemic. All I said was it is not endemic in Kerry. I'm explaining why Dromid were 'caught on the hop' if they experienced what they said they experienced. I am not having a dig at Tyrone or anywhere else. I would say that I experienced more off the ball stuff in Offaly, and in my opinion there is more bad blood at games in other counties that I have attended, (none in Ulster, relax) than I've seen in Kerry.
Caught on the hop? Dromid started the whole disgraceful scenes off. Derrytresk never should have let it get out of hand, but don't be making out that Dromid were innocent lambs in the headlights.
I'm not talking about the row alone. And please note I said " if they experienced what they said they experienced."
So, you are implying that Derrytresk are in some way used to this sort of behaviour and therefore are more experienced in dealing with the aftermath. But because Dromid were completely unaware that this sort of thing happened then they were "caught on the hop" and therefore reacted by running to the media. Have i now picked up the thread of your argument correctly?
What?? Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I'm trying to explain Dromid's reaction (wrong and all as it is IMO) to SUNDAY. I've no idea about what Derrytresk are used to. Dromid said they received some unacceptable behaviour on Sunday, and we've all seen the Derrytresk subs jump the wall in the row. Now, is that something that they do regularly? Not a clue. Is it something Dromid have faced regularly? No. Did it surprise them? Yes.
That's all I'm saying. Why do you think I'm saying anything about Tyrone? I certainly think Derrytresk were more in the wrong on Sunday, but the CCCC will clear that up for us I suppose. I might be wrong.
To be fair - with the context of the thread and use of the word "endemic" in comparison to Kerry football, i think it would not be a completely unfair assumption to make that you were talking about Tyrone or even Ulster football. Ok, so the argument is that you dont know what happens in other counties but you know that whatever happens it is worse than it is in Kerry.
Quote from: orangeman on January 26, 2012, 11:26:45 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:21:56 AM
Quote from: cornafean on January 26, 2012, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: Give and Go on January 26, 2012, 11:01:06 AM
Bad enough the Club doing it but the County Chairman rowing in too and volunteering to assist an investigation!
He can hardly talk, as he was the guy who ended up on his arse in front of the tunnel at half time in the 2008 All Ireland Final after 'bumping' into a member of the Tyrone party.
Is it the same guy?
Same guy.
And a Crokes man as well.
Quote from: ziggysego on January 26, 2012, 11:25:17 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:08:49 AM
I don't know where it is endemic. All I said was it is not endemic in Kerry. I'm explaining why Dromid were 'caught on the hop' if they experienced what they said they experienced. I am not having a dig at Tyrone or anywhere else. I would say that I experienced more off the ball stuff in Offaly, and in my opinion there is more bad blood at games in other counties that I have attended, (none in Ulster, relax) than I've seen in Kerry.
Caught on the hop? Dromid started the whole disgraceful scenes off. Derrytresk never should have let it get out of hand, but don't be making out that Dromid were innocent lambs in the headlights.
Ah now! Thats not true.
Clearly the Derrytresk mentor 'interfered' with the Dromid player who retaliated.Look the bottom line on this is that Kerry are trying to be too cute, using the media to colour any investigations and dare i say it attempting to have their opponents thrown out and t=be reinstated themselves!! That isn't on!
Followed up by Crokes deliberate attempt to influence match officials in advance of their game....
No sorry but these actions diminish Kerry football in the eyes of many neutrals.....
Yes, separate Dugouts are essential.
Quote from: cornafean on January 26, 2012, 11:44:15 AM
Quote from: orangeman on January 26, 2012, 11:26:45 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:21:56 AM
Quote from: cornafean on January 26, 2012, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: Give and Go on January 26, 2012, 11:01:06 AM
Bad enough the Club doing it but the County Chairman rowing in too and volunteering to assist an investigation!
He can hardly talk, as he was the guy who ended up on his arse in front of the tunnel at half time in the 2008 All Ireland Final after 'bumping' into a member of the Tyrone party.
Is it the same guy?
Same guy.
And a Crokes man as well.
Hardly impartial evidence so :D
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2012, 11:04:10 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2012, 10:47:51 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 10:37:30 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2012, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 09:22:00 AM
Ridiculous comments from Crokes, but just this :
Quotehis type of thing never happened in Kerry when the opposite is true. I can recall an incident a few years ago between two neighbouring South Kerry Clubs who are located only a stones throw from Dromid that ended up in a court of law over a vicious assault.
The incident you speak of did end up in a court of law, and was thrown out. Also it was between two players, not substitutes or supporters.
I do agree with you regarding the comments in the media though, I think they've played that badly, but they are certainly angry and taken aback at what happened. But there are certainly rows down in Kerry, and bad belts. Probably not as much bad off the ball stuff as elsewhere, and certainly very little, if any trouble on sidelines.
Really? Do you really believe this?
Kerry football will be under the spotlight in the coming years - lets hope they keep their noses as clean as clean can be. I think the behaviour of both teams on Sunday was plainly out of order and Derrytresk need to take a massive share of that blame for not contolling their bench, but to claim that Kerry football has never ever experienced this kind of thing is just nonsense. I played with many Kerry lads in America and some of the stories they enjoyed regaling certainly contradicts what your purist vision of Kerry football is.
I actually do. I played a small bit down there, and I didn't receive half as much off the ball stuff as I did up in Offaly. I'm sure it does happen, but again, I think in general it's not endemic.
As for the supporters lark, I never suggested that it doesn't happen, just that it certainly doesn't happen often, and I have never seen it at any Dromid game, nor heard of it at any Dromid game.
Look, despite their bleating about Kerry purer than pure football, which is obviously nonsense, I do think what happened at the weekend is something that is not common, nor expected down there.
Well, i spent 23 years of my life playing club football in Tyrone and I can tell you now that i can count on one hand the number of games that i have been to and played in that had instances like this. It is most definately not endemic as you suggest but again, lazy comments from people with little experience of the issue can cause people to arrive at the view you clearly have.
Thats not to say the GAA in Tyrone has no problems to deal with and like any organisation with so many members it has its fair share of nutcases. But it is grossly unfair for Tyrone football to be tarnished in the way it has been while Kerry football retains some sort of holier than thou image perpetuated by people like you with your matter of fact statements who has limited knowledge of either counties.
Hang on. I never said it was endemic in Tyrone either. I'm speaking about Kerry, and I have more than limited knowledge of Kerry to be fair. I've spent quite a bit of time down there. What I am trying to do is explain why they might have been so taken aback by what happened on Sunday.
I have also never said Kerry football is holier than thou, or anyone else. They play the same game the rest of us do, and give and take the same belts on the field as anyone else. I do think there is less off the ball stuff and intimidation down there than in other place, including other places I've played. I'm wasn't even talking or thinking about Tyrone.
To the best of my knowledge, Dromid Pearses have never been involved in a day like last Sunday, and I think that is why they are going over the top in their reaction in the media. I think they are wrong to do so, but I am trying to put a bit of balance against those who are calling them sore losers. They are not sore losers in my opinion, they've been beaten loads of times in important games and have never suggested anything other than the usual 'ref rode us' that we all do.
So, all I'm saying is what happened on Sunday is not a common thing in Kerry, I've never seen Dromid involved in anything like it, and I believe, and still do, that there is not a culture of off the ball stuff like what has been alleged, in Kerry. Which is why I think Dromid reacted the way they have.
I say all the above without even mentioning Tyrone, Armagh, Ulster, or anywhere else.
So where is it endemic then?
Its endemic in Tyrone and Derry from my own personal experience.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2012, 11:38:54 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:33:25 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2012, 11:31:19 AM
AZ, I know you have more experience of Kerry football than I have but my first experience of playing against them began with me ending on the flat of my back seeing tweetie birds after getting a Judas thump after 2 minutes in an AI semi final. I took it and gave it back with interest, as is my right :D, and that was 15 years ago. During the same game a Kerry AI winning captain, who didn't start the final, pulled and hauled Oisin McConvilles jersey till he ripped it and he cleaned him out on at least 2 occassions. They have been doing it for years but like I said to you yesterday one mans cynical is another mans cute hoorism and thats what they have played on over the years and by starting each sentence with Yerra in a nice Kerry lilt it endears them to a lot of people.
Yeah, but you deserved it, 'elbows'.
Not too many elebows in 2 minutes!!!
They didn't want to give you a chance to get into your swinging rythmn :D
Kerry people are mental.
Perhaps almost as mental as Tyrone people.
They should be kept away from each other at all times.
Quote from: hardstation on January 26, 2012, 11:41:07 AM
Derrytresk subs have just released a statement:
"We were surprised when we saw someone hit our clipboard man. We are not used to this and this may help explain our reaction, which we admit was wrong."
As a consequence of this and in an effort to make offenders more easiily identifiable in the future the GAA has announced it will issue counties with new bright green bibs emblazoned with "Maor Chlipboarda"
Dromid released a statement yesterday to say they won't be releasing any more statements.
I think they'll release a reminder statement today, to make sure people look at their statement yesterday. Then sure the weekend statement will be out. And the anniversary statement next Sunday.
Where do Crokes propose for the neutrals to sit in this game? If one has a northern twang will they have to sit with the Armagh wans?
Quote from: everymanaman on January 26, 2012, 12:42:30 PM
Where do Crokes propose for the neutrals to sit in this game? If one has a northern twang will they have to sit with the Armagh wans?
In their cages, where they're told.
Quote from: everymanaman on January 26, 2012, 12:42:30 PM
Where do Crokes propose for the neutrals to sit in this game? If one has a northern twang will they have to sit with the Armagh wans?
All ticket match.
Kerry fans in the stand.
Cross fans in a newly constructed cage over on the far terrace.
Quote from: everymanaman on January 26, 2012, 12:42:30 PM
Where do Crokes propose for the neutrals to sit in this game? If one has a northern twang will they have to sit with the Armagh wans?
What about if there is a hint of the odour of diesel about you?
Quote from: AQMP on January 26, 2012, 12:48:54 PM
Quote from: everymanaman on January 26, 2012, 12:42:30 PM
Where do Crokes propose for the neutrals to sit in this game? If one has a northern twang will they have to sit with the Armagh wans?
What about if there is a hint of the odour of diesel about you?
Special section for contaminated fans like that.
They are backtracking now;
QuoteDr Crokes say they have not called for segregation of supporters at their All Ireland club semi final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
Club Chairman Vincent Casey told this morning's Irish Examiner; "We are looking for a block of tickets for our supporters so they can sit together in a particular area of the stand and therefore both sets of supporters can cheer on their team, without interfering or upsetting each other".
However the club released the following statement a short time ago.
Statement from Dr. Crokes
Regarding the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final Dr. Crokes Club wish to clarify misinformation that appeared in the media this morning regarding that we have requested "segregation of supporters" at the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
What the club has requested is an allotment of tickets in a particular section of the stand where juvenile members and their families can sit together as many families had requested this after our Munster Final win.
We've brought juvenile members to all our games this year and they have been together for the games. However we believe that there will be a large attendance at the game in Portloise and hence our reason for looking for an area where these can be accommodated together. All other interpretation of the clubs requests are a misinterpretation of the facts and the Club is in no way calling for segregation of supporters.
We have also requested that there be adequate stewarding on the day, in particular on the area in front of where the subs are seated to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday.
Quote from: orangeman on January 26, 2012, 12:44:27 PM
Quote from: everymanaman on January 26, 2012, 12:42:30 PM
Where do Crokes propose for the neutrals to sit in this game? If one has a northern twang will they have to sit with the Armagh wans?
All ticket match.
Kerry fans in the stand.
Cross fans in a newly constructed cage over on the far terrace.
Kit Kats, Tayto and Warm bottles of ClubOrange will be provided through the feeding hatch.
Quote from: orangeman on January 26, 2012, 12:51:13 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 26, 2012, 12:48:54 PM
Quote from: everymanaman on January 26, 2012, 12:42:30 PM
Where do Crokes propose for the neutrals to sit in this game? If one has a northern twang will they have to sit with the Armagh wans?
What about if there is a hint of the odour of diesel about you?
Special section for contaminated fans like that.
Smell or no smell the feckers will take every euro that is handed over, no matter where it has come from ;)
Quote from: shezam on January 26, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
They are backtracking now;
QuoteDr Crokes say they have not called for segregation of supporters at their All Ireland club semi final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
Club Chairman Vincent Casey told this morning's Irish Examiner; "We are looking for a block of tickets for our supporters so they can sit together in a particular area of the stand and therefore both sets of supporters can cheer on their team, without interfering or upsetting each other".
However the club released the following statement a short time ago.
Statement from Dr. Crokes
Regarding the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final Dr. Crokes Club wish to clarify misinformation that appeared in the media this morning regarding that we have requested "segregation of supporters" at the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
What the club has requested is an allotment of tickets in a particular section of the stand where juvenile members and their families can sit together as many families had requested this after our Munster Final win.
We've brought juvenile members to all our games this year and they have been together for the games. However we believe that there will be a large attendance at the game in Portloise and hence our reason for looking for an area where these can be accommodated together. All other interpretation of the clubs requests are a misinterpretation of the facts and the Club is in no way calling for segregation of supporters.
We have also requested that there be adequate stewarding on the day, in particular on the area in front of where the subs are seated to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday.
Pathetic attempt to backtrack...they look worse now.
Quote from: shezam on January 26, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
They are backtracking now;
QuoteDr Crokes say they have not called for segregation of supporters at their All Ireland club semi final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
Club Chairman Vincent Casey told this morning's Irish Examiner; "We are looking for a block of tickets for our supporters so they can sit together in a particular area of the stand and therefore both sets of supporters can cheer on their team, without interfering or upsetting each other".
However the club released the following statement a short time ago.
Statement from Dr. Crokes
Regarding the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final Dr. Crokes Club wish to clarify misinformation that appeared in the media this morning regarding that we have requested "segregation of supporters" at the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
What the club has requested is an allotment of tickets in a particular section of the stand where juvenile members and their families can sit together as many families had requested this after our Munster Final win.
We've brought juvenile members to all our games this year and they have been together for the games. However we believe that there will be a large attendance at the game in Portloise and hence our reason for looking for an area where these can be accommodated together. All other interpretation of the clubs requests are a misinterpretation of the facts and the Club is in no way calling for segregation of supporters.
We have also requested that there be adequate stewarding on the day, in particular on the area in front of where the subs are seated to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday.
Why would there be any repeat? The only commonality between the two games is the fact that there is another Kerry team, are they going to start another fight? I reckon they'd be in for an bigger hiding if they did.
Quote from: sheamy on January 26, 2012, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: shezam on January 26, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
They are backtracking now;
QuoteDr Crokes say they have not called for segregation of supporters at their All Ireland club semi final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
Club Chairman Vincent Casey told this morning's Irish Examiner; "We are looking for a block of tickets for our supporters so they can sit together in a particular area of the stand and therefore both sets of supporters can cheer on their team, without interfering or upsetting each other".
However the club released the following statement a short time ago.
Statement from Dr. Crokes
Regarding the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final Dr. Crokes Club wish to clarify misinformation that appeared in the media this morning regarding that we have requested "segregation of supporters" at the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
What the club has requested is an allotment of tickets in a particular section of the stand where juvenile members and their families can sit together as many families had requested this after our Munster Final win.
We've brought juvenile members to all our games this year and they have been together for the games. However we believe that there will be a large attendance at the game in Portloise and hence our reason for looking for an area where these can be accommodated together. All other interpretation of the clubs requests are a misinterpretation of the facts and the Club is in no way calling for segregation of supporters.
We have also requested that there be adequate stewarding on the day, in particular on the area in front of where the subs are seated to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday.
Pathetic attempt to backtrack...they look worse now.
I think it was a reasonable attempt at a story to backtrack until this -
We have also requested that there be adequate stewarding on the day, in particular on the area in front of where the subs are seated to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday In other words, keep them Crossmaglen Subs under control, the shower of animals.
(http://randomranger.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/polish_football_cage_1.jpg)
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 12:57:10 PM
Quote from: sheamy on January 26, 2012, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: shezam on January 26, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
They are backtracking now;
QuoteDr Crokes say they have not called for segregation of supporters at their All Ireland club semi final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
Club Chairman Vincent Casey told this morning's Irish Examiner; "We are looking for a block of tickets for our supporters so they can sit together in a particular area of the stand and therefore both sets of supporters can cheer on their team, without interfering or upsetting each other".
However the club released the following statement a short time ago.
Statement from Dr. Crokes
Regarding the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final Dr. Crokes Club wish to clarify misinformation that appeared in the media this morning regarding that we have requested "segregation of supporters" at the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
What the club has requested is an allotment of tickets in a particular section of the stand where juvenile members and their families can sit together as many families had requested this after our Munster Final win.
We've brought juvenile members to all our games this year and they have been together for the games. However we believe that there will be a large attendance at the game in Portloise and hence our reason for looking for an area where these can be accommodated together. All other interpretation of the clubs requests are a misinterpretation of the facts and the Club is in no way calling for segregation of supporters.
We have also requested that there be adequate stewarding on the day, in particular on the area in front of where the subs are seated to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday.
Pathetic attempt to backtrack...they look worse now.
I think it was a reasonable attempt at a story to backtrack until this - We have also requested that there be adequate stewarding on the day, in particular on the area in front of where the subs are seated to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday In other words, keep them Crossmaglen Subs under control, the shower of animals.
Exactly they have added a further insult in what they have said now. Time to shut up I reckon before they really do irrepairable damage.
What'll ye do when they beat ye? :D
Dr Crokes have made some PR balls of this. These thinly veiled accusations against probably the best club of our generation does them no favours at all. Im sure Crossmaglens experience of playing at the latter stages of All Ireland championships will mean that their fans, officials and substitutes will be well able to control themselves.
Also, why did their Chairman feel the need to tell the Examiner that they wanted a block of seats anyway? Why didnt he just request this from Croke Park? They are just so up their own backsides that its actually getting funny now.
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 01:02:29 PM
What'll ye do when they beat ye? :D
get your hurl and bate them!!!
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 12:52:36 PM
Quote from: orangeman on January 26, 2012, 12:44:27 PM
Quote from: everymanaman on January 26, 2012, 12:42:30 PM
Where do Crokes propose for the neutrals to sit in this game? If one has a northern twang will they have to sit with the Armagh wans?
All ticket match.
Kerry fans in the stand.
Cross fans in a newly constructed cage over on the far terrace.
Kit Kats, Tayto and Warm bottles of ClubOrange will be provided through the feeding hatch.
Only if they're good.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: shezam on January 26, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
They are backtracking now;
QuoteDr Crokes say they have not called for segregation of supporters at their All Ireland club semi final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
Club Chairman Vincent Casey told this morning's Irish Examiner; "We are looking for a block of tickets for our supporters so they can sit together in a particular area of the stand and therefore both sets of supporters can cheer on their team, without interfering or upsetting each other".
However the club released the following statement a short time ago.
Statement from Dr. Crokes
Regarding the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final Dr. Crokes Club wish to clarify misinformation that appeared in the media this morning regarding that we have requested "segregation of supporters" at the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
What the club has requested is an allotment of tickets in a particular section of the stand where juvenile members and their families can sit together as many families had requested this after our Munster Final win.
We've brought juvenile members to all our games this year and they have been together for the games. However we believe that there will be a large attendance at the game in Portloise and hence our reason for looking for an area where these can be accommodated together. All other interpretation of the clubs requests are a misinterpretation of the facts and the Club is in no way calling for segregation of supporters.
We have also requested that there be adequate stewarding on the day, in particular on the area in front of where the subs are seated to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday.
Why would there be any repeat? The only commonality between the two games is the fact that there is another Kerry team, are they going to start another fight? I reckon they'd be in for an bigger hiding if they did.
That sounds like a threat to me.
'Cross legend says "Crokes are in for a big hiding!"'
The guards will have to divert resources from Rossport to Portlaoise to deal with this potential bloodbath.
Quote from: Jinxy on January 26, 2012, 01:10:47 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: shezam on January 26, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
They are backtracking now;
QuoteDr Crokes say they have not called for segregation of supporters at their All Ireland club semi final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
Club Chairman Vincent Casey told this morning's Irish Examiner; "We are looking for a block of tickets for our supporters so they can sit together in a particular area of the stand and therefore both sets of supporters can cheer on their team, without interfering or upsetting each other".
However the club released the following statement a short time ago.
Statement from Dr. Crokes
Regarding the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final Dr. Crokes Club wish to clarify misinformation that appeared in the media this morning regarding that we have requested "segregation of supporters" at the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
What the club has requested is an allotment of tickets in a particular section of the stand where juvenile members and their families can sit together as many families had requested this after our Munster Final win.
We've brought juvenile members to all our games this year and they have been together for the games. However we believe that there will be a large attendance at the game in Portloise and hence our reason for looking for an area where these can be accommodated together. All other interpretation of the clubs requests are a misinterpretation of the facts and the Club is in no way calling for segregation of supporters.
We have also requested that there be adequate stewarding on the day, in particular on the area in front of where the subs are seated to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday.
Why would there be any repeat? The only commonality between the two games is the fact that there is another Kerry team, are they going to start another fight? I reckon they'd be in for an bigger hiding if they did.
That sounds like a threat to me.
'Cross legend says "Crokes are in for a big hiding!"'
The guards will have to divert resources from Rossport to Portlaoise to deal with this potential bloodbath.
What they would start, we would finish!
Quote from: Jinxy on January 26, 2012, 01:10:47 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: shezam on January 26, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
They are backtracking now;
QuoteDr Crokes say they have not called for segregation of supporters at their All Ireland club semi final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
Club Chairman Vincent Casey told this morning's Irish Examiner; "We are looking for a block of tickets for our supporters so they can sit together in a particular area of the stand and therefore both sets of supporters can cheer on their team, without interfering or upsetting each other".
However the club released the following statement a short time ago.
Statement from Dr. Crokes
Regarding the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final Dr. Crokes Club wish to clarify misinformation that appeared in the media this morning regarding that we have requested "segregation of supporters" at the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
What the club has requested is an allotment of tickets in a particular section of the stand where juvenile members and their families can sit together as many families had requested this after our Munster Final win.
We've brought juvenile members to all our games this year and they have been together for the games. However we believe that there will be a large attendance at the game in Portloise and hence our reason for looking for an area where these can be accommodated together. All other interpretation of the clubs requests are a misinterpretation of the facts and the Club is in no way calling for segregation of supporters.
We have also requested that there be adequate stewarding on the day, in particular on the area in front of where the subs are seated to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday.
Why would there be any repeat? The only commonality between the two games is the fact that there is another Kerry team, are they going to start another fight? I reckon they'd be in for an bigger hiding if they did.
That sounds like a threat to me.
'Cross legend says "Crokes are in for a big hiding!"'
The guards will have to divert resources from Rossport to Portlaoise to deal with this potential bloodbath.
I'd have thought Laois county board would be well versed in crowd control in Portlaoise after some pretty unsavoury incidents between hurling clubs down there.
Let the Camross hurlers man the sidelines and there'll not be a cheap from either dugout.
You can sing that. When I heard the stuff from the stewards about the row, I nearly choked on my cornflakes. Ask Bud about hurling in Camross and Castletown.
Now I'll preface my remarks by saying that, in my experience, Crossmaglen's followers are in general the most horrible, dislikeable, foulmouthed and ignorant collection of humanity that most of us are ever likely to have the misfortune to encounter in the GAA. But, that being said, the only physical harm I've ever countenanced in my dealings with them over the years has been to my eardrums. This is just pathetic stuff, clearly designed to put pressure on referees and officials prior to a big game. If much more of this emanates from the Kingdom before the match, I might even be forced to support Cross.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 26, 2012, 02:03:06 PM
Now I'll preface my remarks by saying that, in my experience, Crossmaglen's followers are in general the most horrible, dislikeable, foulmouthed and ignorant collection of humanity that most of us are ever likely to have the misfortune to encounter in the GAA. But, that being said, the only physical harm I've ever countenanced in my dealings with them over the years has been to my eardrums. This is just pathetic stuff, clearly designed to put pressure on referees and officials prior to a big game. If much more of this emanates from the Kingdom before the match, I might even be forced to support Cross.
I hate the way the Ulster boys all gang together :D
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 26, 2012, 02:03:06 PM
Now I'll preface my remarks by saying that, in my experience, Crossmaglen's followers are in general the most horrible, dislikeable, foulmouthed and ignorant collection of humanity that most of us are ever likely to have the misfortune to encounter in the GAA. But, that being said, the only physical harm I've ever countenanced in my dealings with them over the years has been to my eardrums. This is just pathetic stuff, clearly designed to put pressure on referees and officials prior to a big game. If much more of this emanates from the Kingdom before the match, I might even be forced to support Cross.
This coming from a man from the club that has spawned the McConvilles and McKeevers. Shove your support up your Dorsey hole ;D
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 26, 2012, 02:03:06 PM
Now I'll preface my remarks by saying that, in my experience, Crossmaglen's followers are in general the most horrible, dislikeable, foulmouthed and ignorant collection of humanity that most of us are ever likely to have the misfortune to encounter in the GAA. But, that being said, the only physical harm I've ever countenanced in my dealings with them over the years has been to my eardrums. This is just pathetic stuff, clearly designed to put pressure on referees and officials prior to a big game. If much more of this emanates from the Kingdom before the match, I might even be forced to support Cross.
I hate the way the Ulster boys all gang together :D
SUFTUM ;)
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2012, 10:57:33 AM
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:D Crokes have boobed here, big time.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 26, 2012, 02:03:06 PM
Now I'll preface my remarks by saying that, in my experience, Crossmaglen's followers are in general the most horrible, dislikeable, foulmouthed and ignorant collection of humanity that most of us are ever likely to have the misfortune to encounter in the GAA. But, that being said, the only physical harm I've ever countenanced in my dealings with them over the years has been to my eardrums. This is just pathetic stuff, clearly designed to put pressure on referees and officials prior to a big game. If much more of this emanates from the Kingdom before the match, I might even be forced to support Cross.
Croke's have really shat in the nest here in my opinion. Now we'll have a situation where the Cross players and supporters are riled up that little extra notch - and any kind of incident will be under a national meeja microscope - and it will well be another stick for the southern gentry to beat the nordies with - and another juicy headline for the BBC.
Quote from: Puckoon on January 26, 2012, 04:23:25 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 26, 2012, 02:03:06 PM
Now I'll preface my remarks by saying that, in my experience, Crossmaglen's followers are in general the most horrible, dislikeable, foulmouthed and ignorant collection of humanity that most of us are ever likely to have the misfortune to encounter in the GAA. But, that being said, the only physical harm I've ever countenanced in my dealings with them over the years has been to my eardrums. This is just pathetic stuff, clearly designed to put pressure on referees and officials prior to a big game. If much more of this emanates from the Kingdom before the match, I might even be forced to support Cross.
Croke's have really shat in the nest here in my opinion. Now we'll have a situation where the Cross players and supporters are riled up that little extra notch - and any kind of incident will be under a national meeja microscope - and it will well be another stick for the southern gentry to beat the nordies with - and another juicy headline for the BBC.
If Cross players and fans do get 'riled up' then that prove Crokes were right.
Have yis any self-control up there at all? :P
Quote from: Jinxy on January 26, 2012, 05:33:32 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 26, 2012, 04:23:25 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 26, 2012, 02:03:06 PM
Now I'll preface my remarks by saying that, in my experience, Crossmaglen's followers are in general the most horrible, dislikeable, foulmouthed and ignorant collection of humanity that most of us are ever likely to have the misfortune to encounter in the GAA. But, that being said, the only physical harm I've ever countenanced in my dealings with them over the years has been to my eardrums. This is just pathetic stuff, clearly designed to put pressure on referees and officials prior to a big game. If much more of this emanates from the Kingdom before the match, I might even be forced to support Cross.
Croke's have really shat in the nest here in my opinion. Now we'll have a situation where the Cross players and supporters are riled up that little extra notch - and any kind of incident will be under a national meeja microscope - and it will well be another stick for the southern gentry to beat the nordies with - and another juicy headline for the BBC.
If Cross players and fans do get 'riled up' then that prove Crokes were right.
Have yis any self-control up there at all? :P
We can keep it in tow, I can't comment on anyone else!
Dr Crokes deserve to be thrown out of the GAA for being so stupid. Im now a big supporter of Crossmagln
Kerry must be full of wee Pat Spillanes. The throw enough mud and some will stick scenario has influenced mugs around Ireland for the last 10 years. Their ability to portray themselves as sin free is sickening. Its time the GAA fraternity started distancing themselves from their sensationalist claptrack. When Paidi O Se got clipped in an all Ireland semifinal in Croke Park by their own supporter did they even take action. Did anyone?
All that needs to be said on this debacle
(http://www.independent.ie/multimedia/archive/00872/Jackie-Healy-Rae_co_872483t.jpg) Youse are all a shower of cnuts - Up the Kingdom!!
The danger may lie in the fact that lads jumped a barrier to get involved in a fight that had nought to do with them. Lots of cameras and gardai is the best answer. Sad to see people running in to batter players in a game, very sad.
Derrytresk and Cross should both be thrown out.
It's the only way to be sure.
Quote from: Jinxy on January 26, 2012, 06:20:26 PM
Derrytresk and Cross should both be thrown out.
It's the only way to be sure.
Without a doubt!!!!
I went to a Cross game years ago and survived. I even saw BC1 score that day. Mind you the way they stole the game with almost the last kick of the game, against poor Ballina, was disgraceful and on that basis alone they should be thrown out of whatever it is the Kerry lads are yerra-ing about.
However segregation is a different thing altogether.
Ignoring the hooliganism of last week is only about as damaging to the GAA as completely over-stating it by seeking segregation. Those involved last week should see bans, and the rest of us should go on as normal.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2012, 01:15:46 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on January 26, 2012, 01:10:47 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: shezam on January 26, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
They are backtracking now;
QuoteDr Crokes say they have not called for segregation of supporters at their All Ireland club semi final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
Club Chairman Vincent Casey told this morning's Irish Examiner; "We are looking for a block of tickets for our supporters so they can sit together in a particular area of the stand and therefore both sets of supporters can cheer on their team, without interfering or upsetting each other".
However the club released the following statement a short time ago.
Statement from Dr. Crokes
Regarding the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final Dr. Crokes Club wish to clarify misinformation that appeared in the media this morning regarding that we have requested "segregation of supporters" at the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
What the club has requested is an allotment of tickets in a particular section of the stand where juvenile members and their families can sit together as many families had requested this after our Munster Final win.
We've brought juvenile members to all our games this year and they have been together for the games. However we believe that there will be a large attendance at the game in Portloise and hence our reason for looking for an area where these can be accommodated together. All other interpretation of the clubs requests are a misinterpretation of the facts and the Club is in no way calling for segregation of supporters.
We have also requested that there be adequate stewarding on the day, in particular on the area in front of where the subs are seated to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday.
Why would there be any repeat? The only commonality between the two games is the fact that there is another Kerry team, are they going to start another fight? I reckon they'd be in for an bigger hiding if they did.
That sounds like a threat to me.
'Cross legend says "Crokes are in for a big hiding!"'
The guards will have to divert resources from Rossport to Portlaoise to deal with this potential bloodbath.
What they would start, we would finish!
That would have been an ideal time for the usage of the immortal Willie John McBride line (Lions in SA) "These Guards you speak off, will there be many of them?"
Quote from: sammymaguire on January 26, 2012, 06:00:18 PM
All that needs to be said on this debacle
(http://www.independent.ie/multimedia/archive/00872/Jackie-Healy-Rae_co_872483t.jpg) Youse are all a shower of cnuts - Up the Kingdom!!
Where can I get me one of those haircuts?
Can just hear the voice coming over the tannoy at the final whistle in Portlaoise.'Would all Crossmaglen supporters and others of an Ulster persuasion kindly remain in your seats until 45 minutes after the final whistle?'
Quote from: bennydorano on January 26, 2012, 06:51:56 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on January 26, 2012, 06:00:18 PM
All that needs to be said on this debacle
(http://www.independent.ie/multimedia/archive/00872/Jackie-Healy-Rae_co_872483t.jpg) Youse are all a shower of cnuts - Up the Kingdom!!
Where can I get me one of those haircuts?
South Kerry... It's no wonder him and the son wear them flat caps :-\
Being discussed on Newstalk at the moment. Its separation rather than segregation ???
Crokes were onto Croke Park already about 3 weeks ago re Portlaoise going back to the replay a few years ago when Ambrose O'Donovan was sent off and there was hassle. They allegedly asked for Pearse Park in Salthill as an alternative.
Interview with Joe Kernan in tomorrows Examiner
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 26, 2012, 02:03:06 PM
Now I'll preface my remarks by saying that, in my experience, Crossmaglen's followers are in general the most horrible, dislikeable, foulmouthed and ignorant collection of humanity that most of us are ever likely to have the misfortune to encounter in the GAA. But, that being said, the only physical harm I've ever countenanced in my dealings with them over the years has been to my eardrums. This is just pathetic stuff, clearly designed to put pressure on referees and officials prior to a big game. If much more of this emanates from the Kingdom before the match, I might even be forced to support Cross.
Dr Crokes will be pleased that they won't have to endure Cullyhanna supporters in an all Ireland semi final in the forseeable future. :D
Constructive by Crokes in my opinion and overdue for county games with stands.
Always a chance two hotheads are nearby to each other.
Croker do separation.
Clonbur are a very good team in the Junior final by the way.
Don't think there needs to be segregation in GAA, but at the same time I don't see any harm in what the crokes have said, I think too much has been made about it. They have made themselves look a bit silly but thats about it
Well they have more or less said they don't trust the cross subs not to go batshit crazy. That's mildly insulting to say the least :)
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
Why would there be any repeat? The only commonality between the two games is the fact that there is another Kerry team, are they going to start another fight? I reckon they'd be in for an bigger hiding if they did.
Yeah, ye're hard men up North alright. Sucker punching lads, kicking lads who are on the ground when they are already concussed ::)
I'm just glad Aidan O'Mahoney doesnt play for Crokes, its giving a string breeze Sunday.
Irish news has gone nuclear on this, front page, back page, 2 page main story spread, interviews with managers andex managers and the editorial!!!!!!
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on January 27, 2012, 03:07:23 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
Why would there be any repeat? The only commonality between the two games is the fact that there is another Kerry team, are they going to start another fight? I reckon they'd be in for an bigger hiding if they did.
Yeah, ye're hard men up North alright. Sucker punching lads, kicking lads who are on the ground when they are already concussed ::)
Mike suck my hole ye fecking animal!!!
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 27, 2012, 09:52:34 AM
Irish news has gone nuclear on this, front page, back page, 2 page main story spread, interviews with managers andex managers and the editorial!!!!!!
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on January 27, 2012, 03:07:23 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
Why would there be any repeat? The only commonality between the two games is the fact that there is another Kerry team, are they going to start another fight? I reckon they'd be in for an bigger hiding if they did.
Yeah, ye're hard men up North alright. Sucker punching lads, kicking lads who are on the ground when they are already concussed ::)
Mike suck my hole ye fecking animal!!!
Now THAT'S debating! At least Gogarty apologised for his unparlimentary language. :D
Crokes are a disgrace and should be embarrassed over their statement. I really hope Cross hammer them and no matter what margin it won't be enough. For something like this to come out of Kerry GAA almost leaves me speechless and that's cos I respect Kerry GAA so much. Never thought they'd be going on like ould wans.
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 27, 2012, 11:13:31 AM
Crokes are a disgrace and should be embarrassed over their statement. I really hope Cross hammer them and no matter what margin it won't be enough. For something like this to come out of Kerry GAA almost leaves me speechless and that's cos I respect Kerry GAA so much. Never thought they'd be going on like ould wans.
There in lies the problems, they've been getting away with it for years. Until you've been on the recieving end if it, you'd think they were the darlings of the GAA.
Quote from: muppet on January 26, 2012, 06:49:51 PM
I went to a Cross game years ago and survived. I even saw BC1 score that day. Mind you the way they stole the game with almost the last kick of the game, against poor Ballina, was disgraceful and on that basis alone they should be thrown out of whatever it is the Kerry lads are yerra-ing about.
Bigger robbery than the Northern Bank job so it was that day :(.....in fairness to the cross lads i met afterwards, they were almost apologising for winning!
FALSE ALARM - CROKES HAVE CLARIFIED THEIR STATEMENT - NO CALL FOR SEGREGATION AFTER ALL - JUST A CALL TO PROTECT WOMEN AND SMALL CHILDREN INSTEAD !!!!!! ;) :D
From RTE
On Thursday, Dr Crokes clarified that their request for blocks of tickets for the game was to facilitate juvenile members and their families, and not a call for fans to be separated.
Crokes have really dug a might hole for themselves, and seem to be trying to crawl out of it by the hour.
IMO they have put their team under pressure before they even take the field.
Kerry folk have forgotten that there was another game in Portlaoise last Sun between a Kerry club and an Ulster club with no hassle in a hard sporting game, but then the Kerry lads won!!
They're really making themselvses look silly now - somebody should tell them to stop digging the whole and just bury the shovel. :D
Regarding the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final Dr. Crokes Club wish to clarify misinformation that appeared in the media this morning 26/01/12 regarding that we have requested "segregation of supporters" at the forthcoming All Ireland Club Semi Final against Crossmaglen Rangers.
What the club has requested is an allotment of tickets in a particular section of the stand where juvenile members and their families can sit together, as many families had requested this after our Munster Final win.
We've brought juvenile members to all our games this year and they have been together for the games. However we believe that there will be a large attendance at the game in Portlaoise and hence our reason for looking for an area where these can be accommodated together. All other interpretation of the clubs requests are a misinterpretation of the facts and the Club is in no way calling for segregation of supporters.
We have also requested that there be adequate stewarding on the day, in particular on the area in front of where the subs are seated to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday.
Talk about putting your foot in it.
Crokes may have had a point if they'd wanted a family section so that youngsters could avoid sitting in the vicinity of a half pished gobshite shouting abuse at all and sundry around them. I'd think that would have been a good idea not just for the Cross game but any big game in general where these merchants vent their weird version of support on those around them.
This section should be made available to both sets of supporters as I'm sure there may actually be decent people from Cross as well. ;)
I laughed when i heard this and still am. Crazy stuff from the Crokes, even their statement is like a case of "stop digging lads". Rumours that they have flown in American Football gear for the players have yet to be confirmed.
Cross must be absolutely loving this, as if they ever needed any further motivation or encouragement, insulting everything about them isn't the way to go.
The Gouch is up in Blayney tomorrow at an AIB Club day, i can assure everyone that even though Cross is only a few miles up the road, all roads will be closed and he'll be under constant guard by an Irish Ranger Army Unit at all time.
Quote from: orangeman on January 27, 2012, 12:20:51 PM
We have also requested that there be adequate stewarding on the day, in particular on the area in front of where the subs are seated to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday.
there were plenty of stewards there last Sunday - they just stood and watched the subs jump over the barrier and get involved.
they also stood and watched the large crowd gather to jump over the (low) barrier to get onto the pitch at the final whistle to celebrate with the players despite the PA announcing that there was a second game and the crowd were not to go onto the pitch (numerous times yer man said it).
the stewards just stood and watched.
Then when the large crowd were on the pitch and gettin gin the way of Craigbane warming up, the stewards stood and watched and decided not to try to hurry them off the playing area.
Eventually the crowd did get off - their own mentors and officials and clubpersons did the ushering.
it seems that after years of watching portlaoise fight portarlingon in the football championship and cload fight camross in the hurling championship - the stewards have decided that the best course of action is to let them at it and not do the job they are supposed to.
Could you blame them ?
dromid were wrong to start the scrap. derrytreask were wrong to ple in and their subs prob deserve banning.
crokes were trying to play upon the media (non/anti GAA) uproar (about feck all of a scuffle) and it was some attempt to project a negative image onto Cross that they hoped might stick in the appointed referees head.
There was no need for segregation last sunday in the stands as while there were fairly distinctive pockets of fans from each area, I sat for the first game and first half of the second game amongst the kerry and tyrone crowds and there was no problems whatsoever.
I find it disgusting that crokes even mention segregation - despite trying to backtrack now pretending it was about women and kids.
Quote from: johnneycool on January 27, 2012, 12:29:23 PM
Talk about putting your foot in it.
Crokes may have had a point if they'd wanted a family section so that youngsters could avoid sitting in the vicinity of a half pished gobshite shouting abuse at all and sundry around them. I'd think that would have been a good idea not just for the Cross game but any big game in general where these merchants vent their weird version of support on those around them.
This section should be made available to both sets of supporters as I'm sure there may actually be decent people from Cross as well. ;)
There's at least half a dozen.
That is what i would call a major back tracking by Crokes.. If i was from that club i would be looking to know all of whom decided that thye 1st statement should be made. And if i was a parent in the club i would be looking clarifavation on this matter and why are they climbing down and using the children of the club as the smokescreen and lastly if it hasnt already happened i think the committee should all step down over this debacle and for taking the gaa ephos into disreput
Cross' being the ones to beat, neutrals would generally be rooting for the other team. Crokes have managed to get people in 31 counties cheering for the favourites, no mean feat.
QuoteIf i was from that club i would be looking to know all of whom decided that thye 1st statement should be made.
probably Tony McEntee!
In fairness to Crokes, Crossmaglen supporters should be segregated from the human race, not just from other GAA fans.
Ridiculous suggestion from Crokes. They're left looking very foolish.
QuoteCrossmaglen supporters should be segregated from the human race, not just from other GAA fans.
There might be something in this. After all the team is pretty much segregated from other teams drawn from the human race. The supporters too should be on the higher level.
Funny they've never managed to show against Errigal Ciaran tho?
You'd better hope UTB that you continue to not win the TSFC for the next few years.
wonder(just to be safe) does the segregation continue in the toilets and the burger van?
Standard burger van rules will apply.
It's every man for himself.
QuoteYou'd better hope UTB that you continue to not win the TSFC for the next few years.
I know the standard of Armagh club football is dire but have Cross now been given a bye into Ulster
'for the next few years'?
The last team to beat Cross was from Armagh, teams from a few other places have failed to do so since.
Love how people automatically assume Armagh football is poor? they make wee boys out of every other team in ireland as well when they want to. They've been beat once in Ulster in 6 years and it was by an Armagh team. So why does no-one say that the standard of Ulster football is dire? Coz i was at every Cross game so far this year and I'd say their toughest test was against ourselves in Armagh, coz they walked through Ulster in 2nd gear!!
A poor week for the GAA thanks to the scandalous whinging and moaning from Kerry Clubs. They've had it too easy for too long thanks to a provincial system that has protested them and given them an easy ride to All Ireland Finals.
Shame on them for the headlines they caused all week and are still causing in today's papers. A black day for the GAA.
Crokes though take the biscuit. How come they didn't put forward a motion on this to Convention since their concerns about safety arose a few years ago? How come they release statements on the issue to the media instead of raising the issue directly with Croke Park? Now backtracking at a rate of knots.
Sickening carry on. A slur against great GAA people in other clubs and counties. On a par with our Taoiseach's comments in Davos this week.
Always followed Kerry football. Used to always.
Quote from: pearseog on January 28, 2012, 01:18:02 AM
Love how people automatically assume Armagh football is poor? they make wee boys out of every other team in ireland as well when they want to. They've been beat once in Ulster in 6 years and it was by an Armagh team. So why does no-one say that the standard of Ulster football is dire? Coz i was at every Cross game so far this year and I'd say their toughest test was against ourselves in Armagh, coz they walked through Ulster in 2nd gear!!
The standard in Ulster is quite poor alright.
Getting a bit worried now. After them Tyrone boys beat the poor Kerry boys last week and Crokes running scared of Cross what will I do on Feb 11th. Armagh are due to play Kerry away. Will they let us in? Will there be an away end? Will Croke Park inform us via our season ticket email? Will we away supporters have an escort to an from the county border? It could get dicey for some of us Armagh supporters. Afterall the hard men from Cross will be saving their money for the club championship only leaving a small amount of us nordie thugs to make the journey. Maybe I and my young fella should just stay at home and watch it on Setanta. They could show it on Setanta Ireland for the Kerry boys and Setanta 1 for us. God I remember the good old days when you just went to the match for a bit of craic and banter with all other supporters. Not much point renewing the season ticket next year! Sad the way things change as you get older.
Quote from: Jinxy on January 28, 2012, 01:19:10 PM
Quote from: pearseog on January 28, 2012, 01:18:02 AM
Love how people automatically assume Armagh football is poor? they make wee boys out of every other team in ireland as well when they want to. They've been beat once in Ulster in 6 years and it was by an Armagh team. So why does no-one say that the standard of Ulster football is dire? Coz i was at every Cross game so far this year and I'd say their toughest test was against ourselves in Armagh, coz they walked through Ulster in 2nd gear!!
The standard in Ulster is quite poor alright.
Its a lot better than meath. Club football in meath is dire. There are intermediate teams in ulster every bit as good as 50% of the senior teams in meath.
I'd well believe it.
QuoteLove how people automatically assume Armagh football is poor?
I assume you've not watched Armagh in the USFC for a while then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWbz_mIAShM&sns=em
Never mind Cross or Armagh hooligans. Wait until they meet the Cavan headhunters or the Derry Inter shitty firm.
Quote from: pearseog on January 28, 2012, 01:18:02 AM
Love how people automatically assume Armagh football is poor? they make wee boys out of every other team in ireland as well when they want to. They've been beat once in Ulster in 6 years and it was by an Armagh team. So why does no-one say that the standard of Ulster football is dire? Coz i was at every Cross game so far this year and I'd say their toughest test was against ourselves in Armagh, coz they walked through Ulster in 2nd gear!!
spot on,, cross will have tough games against the ogs and cullyhanna if they are to meet
Quote from: get up there on January 29, 2012, 03:51:55 PM
Quote from: pearseog on January 28, 2012, 01:18:02 AM
Love how people automatically assume Armagh football is poor? they make wee boys out of every other team in ireland as well when they want to. They've been beat once in Ulster in 6 years and it was by an Armagh team. So why does no-one say that the standard of Ulster football is dire? Coz i was at every Cross game so far this year and I'd say their toughest test was against ourselves in Armagh, coz they walked through Ulster in 2nd gear!!
spot on,, cross will have tough games against the ogs and cullyhanna if they are to meet
Add Dromintee to that list
So if club football outside of Cross is as strong as you say how come your county team is pure dung?
Quote from: under the bar on January 29, 2012, 10:52:23 PM
So if club football outside of Cross is as strong as you say how come your county team is pure dung?
There isn't necessarily a correlation between the standard of club football and county football. Tyrone being a prime example, good county team but shite club football with only one 'club' (or sorry, should that be two or three?) EVER winning the Ulster club.
As I live less than an hour's drive from Portlaoise, I am really looking forward to this semi final. After the carry on of Croke's last week I hope and expect to see a win for Crossmaglen.