It is rumoured that former Tyrone star Peter Canavan is the leading contender in the race to become the next Fermanagh County manager. The Errigal Ciaran man recently completed a three year stint with his home club and it appears he is now ready to take on the challenge with a move to inter county management. Fermanagh would be Peter's first venture into the inter county scene and he would hope to reverse their recent decline which has seen them drop to the lower reaches of the National League while also performing dismally in the Ulster Championship and The All Ireland qualifiers.
It was no secret that the Fermanagh senior team endured a rather turgid year throughout 2011 with stories of player dissatisfaction and at times open revolt against the management. To appoint a manager with Canavan's profile would be a huge coup for the Erne County and would surely be seen as a positive move by all those involved with Fermanagh football.
It is widely believed that if Canavan is the successful candidate he will bring Fermanagh native Kieran Donnelly and former Tyrone county Board Coaching Officer Enda Kilpatrick with him as part of his backroom team. Donnelly, a teacher in Omagh CBS is a well respected coach and was the Errigal Ciaran trainer during Canavan's time as their club manager while Kilpatrick has a long record and association with Vocational Schools and youth coaching within the O'Neill County.
It is believed that interviews for the post are due to take place within the next forty eight hours.
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No. We need the real God to carry out some major miracles in Fermanagh Gaelic football circles if we are to make any headway back to the glory days of 2004-2008... Still stranger things have happened
Quote from: ziggysego on November 16, 2011, 07:03:10 PM
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It was no secret that the Fermanagh senior team endured a rather turgid year throughout 2011 with stories of player dissatisfaction and at times open revolt against the management. To appoint a manager with Canavan's profile would be a huge coup for the Erne County and would surely be seen as a positive move by all those involved with Fermanagh football.
He'll have to get them off those cream buns.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on November 16, 2011, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on November 16, 2011, 07:03:10 PM
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It was no secret that the Fermanagh senior team endured a rather turgid year throughout 2011 with stories of player dissatisfaction and at times open revolt against the management. To appoint a manager with Canavan's profile would be a huge coup for the Erne County and would surely be seen as a positive move by all those involved with Fermanagh football.
He'll have to get them off those cream buns.
The Fermanagh lads have been eating proddies?? ;D can't be good for ya right enough
Would need a backroom team of Father,Son and Holy Ghost if truth be told!
few trips to lourdes needed
Quote from: leaveherinsir on November 16, 2011, 08:53:16 PM
Would need a backroom team of Father,Son and Holy Ghost if truth be told!
I have heard of that boy before, i think he is from Ardboe
Seems like a done deal at this stage. Had heard last week one of the previous front runners had pulled out because of Cavanan having it sewn up.
Would definitely bring a bit of excitement to Fermanagh and god knows they need it after last year but Canavan didn't pull up any trees with Errigal Ciaran and without at least promotion from Div 4 the novelty could wear off quickly enough.
(Luke 22:34,60-62) - "And He said, "I say to you, Peter, the c**k will not crow today until you have denied three times that you know Me . . . .But Peter said, "Man, I do not know what you are talking about." And immediately, while he was still speaking, a c**k crowed. And the Lord turned and looked at Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how He had told him, "Before a c**k crows today, you will deny Me three times." And he went out and wept bitterly."
Quote from: ONeill on November 16, 2011, 09:26:43 PM
(Luke 22:34,60-62) - "And He said, "I say to you, Peter, the c**k will not crow today until you have denied three times that you know Me . . . .But Peter said, "Man, I do not know what you are talking about." And immediately, while he was still speaking, a c**k crowed. And the Lord turned and looked at Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how He had told him, "Before a c**k crows today, you will deny Me three times." And he went out and wept bitterly."
And then Prodigal Pat of Kerillee did sayeth, 'Brolly even your crowing is puke'.
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 16, 2011, 09:06:49 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on November 16, 2011, 08:53:16 PM
Would need a backroom team of Father,Son and Holy Ghost if truth be told!
I have heard of that boy before, i think he is from Ardboe
Probably the holy ghost who started thon row on Sunday up in Tyrone :D
Quote from: ONeill on November 16, 2011, 09:26:43 PM
(Luke 22:34,60-62) - "And He said, "I say to you, Peter, the c**k will not crow today until you have denied three times that you know Me . . . .But Peter said, "Man, I do not know what you are talking about." And immediately, while he was still speaking, a c**k crowed. And the Lord turned and looked at Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how He had told him, "Before a c**k crows today, you will deny Me three times." And he went out and wept bitterly."
Brilliant sir!! :D :D :D
Quote from: Orangemac on November 16, 2011, 09:11:39 PM
Seems like a done deal at this stage. Had heard last week one of the previous front runners had pulled out because of Cavanan having it sewn up.
Would definitely bring a bit of excitement to Fermanagh and god knows they need it after last year but Canavan didn't pull up any trees with Errigal Ciaran and without at least promotion from Div 4 the novelty could wear off quickly enough.
:D ;D
Not to sure if its a sown up as everybody thinks.
Interviews are tonight as far as i know.
Canavan and Donnelly hardly set the world alight with Errigal Ciaran as other posters have stated.
Dawson is the stand out candidate IMO.
Has the track record at club level and would have a serious insight into our first round opponents in the Ulster Championship.
Also there are serious internal issues to be resolved within the Fermanagh camp.
An experienced head is what we need
From what I hear its Dawsons job if he wants it, will be very suprised in Canavan gets it.
In Todays Gaelic life as his job to turn down. Front page stuff. Cue all the jokes about Fermanagh lads training in the lakes to perfect their diving!!!
Aye but sure Paul Galvin was in a St Galls jersey on the front page not so long ago as well
Quote from: FermGael on November 17, 2011, 10:25:51 AM
Aye but sure Paul Galvin was in a St Galls jersey on the front page not so long ago as well
That was just a fashion statement he likes their shade of blue, everyone knows he's joining us :P
He wouldn't get on
Quote from: hardstation on November 17, 2011, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: FermGael on November 17, 2011, 10:25:51 AM
Aye but sure Paul Galvin was in a St Galls jersey on the front page not so long ago as well
Exactly. Random rumours from this board make the front page of thon paper.
Thon Woods fella knows nathin!!! ;D
3rd time lucky for dawson tonight
Are Fermanagh likely to fly high, hi ?
bbc reporting as follows on twitter
'Fermanagh GAA now says interviews for manager's job start today. No formal announcement until next week at the earliest.'
so either the Gaelic Life are talking complete shite or else Fermanagh are starting their 'new era' in a slightly fcked up way ;D
It's been seen time and again before that they make up stories based on all type of here-say and rumor. Fast becoming the Daily Sport of the GAA.
Frank Dawson wont be at ANY interview tonight, FACT. He stays with Burren.
Quote from: redandblackareback on November 17, 2011, 06:37:52 PM
Frank Dawson wont be at ANY interview tonight, FACT. He stays with Burren.
Was he in the Poly in the late 1980s?
Apparently its a Canavan/Tom Brewster set up now... that could be interesting
i thought he might have waited for a more high profile job
Tenderfoot
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Quote from: Hardy on November 18, 2011, 12:10:59 PM
Tenderfoot
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Canavan is in the Boy Scouts of America?
Is he? That's not it anyway.
Well Canavan has it. Will be confirmed at the county board meeting tonight.
Good luck to him.
alot of work to be done and alot of players to get talking to.
Last year was an awful year for Fermanagh football.
I just hope that it can be left in the past. That remains to be seen....
Also no recession round here
He must be crazy going in there after the split with some players this year regarding the manager
Quote from: Stevie g 8 on November 21, 2011, 04:31:00 PM
He must be crazy going in there after the split with some players this year regarding the manager
that was the Manager's fault, not the players. The right manager will galvanise a god bunch of lads.
Nothing crazy about it. Any achievement or notable results there and he'll be deemed a success and a target for the bigger sides.
Fermanagh had not one player playing last year in the Championship that started the Ulster final of 2008. Every player in the county will want to play under him and if he can even persuade half of that side to return, and most of them are still under 30, then Fermanagh will be a decent side.
God even if he can get just one forward, Seamus Quigley, half committed to the cause then we'll be much improved on last year.
Marty McGrath, Barry Owens, Mark Little, Eamon Maguire, Seamus Quigley, Ryan McCluskey, Ryan Carson, Tommy McElroy, Conor Quigley, all good enough players to make a decent inter-county side. Certainly good enough to get out of Division Four.
We can't get any worse, that's for sure.
Quote from: FermGael on November 21, 2011, 11:51:37 AM
Also no recession round here
Does 45k of expenses sound about right
Done deal, confirmed by county board.
Quote from: gerry on November 21, 2011, 09:19:22 PM
Quote from: FermGael on November 21, 2011, 11:51:37 AM
Also no recession round here
Does 45k of expenses sound about right
Surely he'll just take an industrial wage ;)
An expensive appointment I would think.
QuoteAn expensive appointment I would think.
Whatever he cost the people of Fermanagh, Tom Elliott included, should get on their knees and praise the Lord for sending PTG to them!
"I believe in a god that doesn't need heavy financing"
Chevy Chase, "Fletch Lives
Quote from: Hardy on November 18, 2011, 12:10:59 PM
Tenderfoot
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Greenhorn?
Quote from: sammymaguire on November 21, 2011, 04:38:26 PM
Quote from: Stevie g 8 on November 21, 2011, 04:31:00 PM
He must be crazy going in there after the split with some players this year regarding the manager
that was the Manager's fault, not the players. The right manager will galvanise a god bunch of lads.
Is that a fraudian slip. Sean Quinn must still have a few quid hidden under the carpet.
Quote from: Maiden1 on November 21, 2011, 11:16:17 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on November 21, 2011, 04:38:26 PM
Quote from: Stevie g 8 on November 21, 2011, 04:31:00 PM
He must be crazy going in there after the split with some players this year regarding the manager
that was the Manager's fault, not the players. The right manager will galvanise a god bunch of lads.
Is that a fraudian slip. Sean Quinn must still have a few quid hidden under the carpet.
No but that one is definitely Freudian.
Congratulations to Peter and Enda on landing this job and as a Tyrone man I wish you well. I think this is an outstanding appointment for Fermanagh football. Both men are openminded, have football brains to burn and take no rubbish as well. Looking at the draw and if they make the improvements I expect them to make, they may not be far away in getting a bit of a championship run with Fermanagh, and back to division 3 football.
God luck to the new management team. Given that the idea behind the previous management appointment was to reduce expenses, will the County Board be as open minded to players expenses / costs as they will be to managements?
Is this a county board appointment or a supporters clubs appointment?
Quote from: ONeill on November 21, 2011, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: Hardy on November 18, 2011, 12:10:59 PM
Tenderfoot
(This is a test of board members' Google skills.)
Greenhorn?
A tenderfoot is a greenhorn, but no.
The reference was not to God but the one mooted to sit on his right hand.
Quote from: regal on November 22, 2011, 09:35:10 AM
God luck to the new management team. Given that the idea behind the previous management appointment was to reduce expenses, will the County Board be as open minded to players expenses / costs as they will be to managements?
Is this a county board appointment or a supporters clubs appointment?
The latter. Canavan met with Club Eirne before he went for interview and was their candidate. There wasnt much the County Board could do when he was the only one who turned up for interview.
Hope all goes well to Fermanagh in the season coming they are now my adoped second county. Hopefully Peter will serve his apprenticeship well and will be ready to take the Tyrone hot seat when ever Micky decides to call an end to his tenure at Tyrone!! Peter will always be a legend
Great appointment Fermanagh
Quote from: oakleafgael on November 22, 2011, 11:01:47 AM
Quote from: regal on November 22, 2011, 09:35:10 AM
God luck to the new management team. Given that the idea behind the previous management appointment was to reduce expenses, will the County Board be as open minded to players expenses / costs as they will be to managements?
Is this a county board appointment or a supporters clubs appointment?
The latter. Canavan met with Club Eirne before he went for interview and was their candidate. There wasnt much the County Board could do when he was the only one who turned up for interview.
That is what I thought. But as this is Club Eirne's appointment, there are 2 obvious problems:
1 - Club Eirne do not pay the players expenses, so the same players who wouldn't play last year still have no financial incentive to play this year. No financial reward, then they will hardly be motivated to play this year
2 - After year 1 of Peter's 3 year contract, there will be no coffers left in Club Eirne's piggy bank to pay anyone
Quote from: passedit on November 22, 2011, 08:44:23 AM
Quote from: Maiden1 on November 21, 2011, 11:16:17 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on November 21, 2011, 04:38:26 PM
Quote from: Stevie g 8 on November 21, 2011, 04:31:00 PM
He must be crazy going in there after the split with some players this year regarding the manager
that was the Manager's fault, not the players. The right manager will galvanise a god bunch of lads.
Is that a fraudian slip. Sean Quinn must still have a few quid hidden under the carpet.
No but that one is definitely Freudian.
:)
Quote from: regal on November 22, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
That is what I thought. But as this is Club Eirne's appointment, there are 2 obvious problems:
1 - Club Eirne do not pay the players expenses, so the same players who wouldn't play last year still have no financial incentive to play this year. No financial reward, then they will hardly be motivated to play this year
2 - After year 1 of Peter's 3 year contract, there will be no coffers left in Club Eirne's piggy bank to pay anyone
Interesting. Are you saying that the players left last year because there was no financial reward??
I think a bigger problem for Peter may be getting the players who played last year and the players who walked away to play on the same team
P.S any word on who got the U-21 and minor jobs?
Quote from: FermGael on November 22, 2011, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: regal on November 22, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
That is what I thought. But as this is Club Eirne's appointment, there are 2 obvious problems:
1 - Club Eirne do not pay the players expenses, so the same players who wouldn't play last year still have no financial incentive to play this year. No financial reward, then they will hardly be motivated to play this year
2 - After year 1 of Peter's 3 year contract, there will be no coffers left in Club Eirne's piggy bank to pay anyone
Interesting. Are you saying that the players left last year because there was no financial reward??
I think a bigger problem for Peter may be getting the players who played last year and the players who walked away to play on the same team
P.S any word on who got the U-21 and minor jobs?
I would have thought that also, whenever you read the public statments that Ownes has made in the press about the stay away/walk out players. He would have been best advised to to have kept close council.
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1 - Club Eirne do not pay the players expenses, so the same players who wouldn't play last year still have no financial incentive to play this year. No financial reward, then they will hardly be motivated to play this year
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People have talked about why players left etc for nearly a year now, and I think most don't think money was the reason for it. Whatever peoples thoughts on whether they should or shouldnt have left, stating the players would only return for the money seems like just a cheap shot at them (many of which have give years of service) and seems like someone just trying to throw dirt at them in the hope that some sticks.
Now is the time to come together and try to move on from what was an absolutely awful year for us. I for one, am far more optimisitic this year than I was when O'Neill was appointed. Hopefully the players that remained, those that left and those that refused to come out in the 1st place can now come together and become the good side that I think they can become.
I think this is a great appointment for both Peter and Fermanagh. For Peter he is taking over a team with potential and possibily at the the lowest ebb they have been in many years. Any move forward is progress and if the stay away players from last year re-join then there is every chance that Fermanagh could cause a few upsets in the year ahead.
I would be very, very surprised if Peter walked into this job without knowing wether or not these players would return and sounding out people like Barry Owens. Peter is no mug and wouldnt have touched this job with a barge pole had he not been given assurances that this dispute would be resolved.
It will be interesting to see how this pans out - all of a sudden the Ulster championship has a bit more of a spice about it.
Quote from: gerry on November 21, 2011, 09:19:22 PM
Quote from: FermGael on November 21, 2011, 11:51:37 AM
Also no recession round here
Does 45k of expenses sound about right
To be fair He will need the expenses as he may miss out on commentating (BBC &tv3), today fm work and his summer camp in Spain.
I might be in a minority of one here, but I am not that excited about this at all :-\
The way I look at it is, he can't lose (as previous posters have said).
If he is useless he will be able to blame the players and walk away head held high. He will say that Fermanagh don't have the players. If he is successful in any way he will have one eye on the Tyrone job.
In my opinion he got the job because of his name rather than his managerial credentials, and thats not something I would be overly excited about. Great players are not guaranteed to make great managers IMHO. Of course it helps to get an initial level of respect but the level of respect will change dependant on how he does.
In all honesty a minimum requirement should be promotion in the league, a decent showing in Ulster and a few results in the qualifiers when they get there. Any thing less will be a failure in my eyes
As has been said the only way is up after last year. If Canavan has a full pick of players who are commited to the cause Fermanagh should be able to get promotion and give Down a good rattle next May.
The likes of Barry Owens and Marty McGrath are long past their glory days though and an Ulster title win would confirm Peter as God in 2 counties.
'Nothing to lose' - 'the only way is up'
Lose to Kilkenny and there'll be an uprising.
75 at trials between wednesday and this morning including this young guy
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/384745_2567448718419_1620232346_2436212_1426167941_n.jpg)
just out of curiousity, have any bookies priced up next seasons division four. Id stick a few quid on them if there was a bit of value.
2 to 1 is fermanaghs price to win div 4
Quote from: gerry on December 11, 2011, 10:32:25 PM
75 at trials between wednesday and this morning including this young guy
True Gerry but there seems to be a few good men staying away...
The latest man to return.
Fermanagh seem to have a very professional set up this year.
Portadown none to happy about this it seems.
I never thought i would say this but i actually am beginning to have a lot of sympathy for John O'Neill
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/16797780.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/16797780.stm)
QuoteShane McCabe quits Portadown to resume Fermanagh GAA career
Shane McCabe has left Portadown after deciding to resume his intercounty GAA career with Fermanagh.
McCabe was part of the Fermanagh team which reached the 2008 Ulster Football Final but he has concentrated on his soccer commitments with Glentoran and Portadown in recent years.
However new Fermanagh manager Peter Canavan has now recalled McCabe to the Erne squad.
McCabe will be in the Erne panel for Sunday's NFL opener in London.
Fermanagh will face London in the Division 4 clash in Ruislip (1300 GMT).
The game offers the Ernemen a chance for revenge after their shock All-Ireland qualifier defeat by the Exiles last summer.
That proved John O'Neill's final game in charge but the arrival of Canavan has led to a new wave of optimism in the Erne County.
Ryan McCluskey also left his soccer duties at Dungannon Swifts to return to the Fermanagh squad.
Portadown manager Ronnie McFall was left upset by McCabe's decision to quit the club and claimed that the player was in "breach of contract".
"It is my understanding that Shane was involved in a Fermanagh GAA training camp over the weekend," McFall told the Portadown Times.
"I asked him to play against Ballymena United but he basically sent a text back saying 'no' and has confirmed he wants to return to the GAA.
"Therefore, he is in breach of contract and suspended without wages.
"He has the rest of this season and another full campaign under contract to this club and we retain his registration.
"It is a major blow given our position with injuries and suspensions on top of what is already a small squad."
Quote from: FermGael on January 31, 2012, 10:06:00 AM
The latest man to return.
Fermanagh seem to have a very professional set up this year.
Portadown none to happy about this it seems.
I never thought i would say this but i actually am beginning to have a lot of sympathy for John O'Neill
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/16797780.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/16797780.stm)
QuoteShane McCabe quits Portadown to resume Fermanagh GAA career
Shane McCabe has left Portadown after deciding to resume his intercounty GAA career with Fermanagh.
McCabe was part of the Fermanagh team which reached the 2008 Ulster Football Final but he has concentrated on his soccer commitments with Glentoran and Portadown in recent years.
However new Fermanagh manager Peter Canavan has now recalled McCabe to the Erne squad.
McCabe will be in the Erne panel for Sunday's NFL opener in London.
Fermanagh will face London in the Division 4 clash in Ruislip (1300 GMT).
The game offers the Ernemen a chance for revenge after their shock All-Ireland qualifier defeat by the Exiles last summer.
That proved John O'Neill's final game in charge but the arrival of Canavan has led to a new wave of optimism in the Erne County.
Ryan McCluskey also left his soccer duties at Dungannon Swifts to return to the Fermanagh squad.
Portadown manager Ronnie McFall was left upset by McCabe's decision to quit the club and claimed that the player was in "breach of contract".
"It is my understanding that Shane was involved in a Fermanagh GAA training camp over the weekend," McFall told the Portadown Times.
"I asked him to play against Ballymena United but he basically sent a text back saying 'no' and has confirmed he wants to return to the GAA.
"Therefore, he is in breach of contract and suspended without wages.
"He has the rest of this season and another full campaign under contract to this club and we retain his registration.
"It is a major blow given our position with injuries and suspensions on top of what is already a small squad."
And all the talk about managers getting paid :D
You would have to feel soory for J O'Neill, asked by the board to cut spending and now this complete U turn. WTF
McCabe obviously doesn't understand the meaning of the word "contract" ::)
Hasn't McCluskey give up the soccer as well to concentrate on the Gaelic?
Quote from: FermGael on January 31, 2012, 10:06:00 AM
The latest man to return.
Fermanagh seem to have a very professional set up this year.
Portadown none to happy about this it seems.
I never thought i would say this but i actually am beginning to have a lot of sympathy for John O'Neill
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/16797780.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/16797780.stm)
Ryan McCluskey also left his soccer duties at Dungannon Swifts to return to the Fermanagh squad.
Quote from: Orangemac on January 31, 2012, 10:33:09 PM
Hasn't McCluskey give up the soccer as well to concentrate on the Gaelic?