It's on like Donkey Kong!!
The semifinals messed things up a bit by not following the predictions for the Two Masters of the Hurling Universe to annihilate Waterford and Dublin. Kilkenny didn't seem to me to have the typical dominance in possession and accuracy in scoring, while Tipperary's forwards weren't able to open up the Dublin backs as expected [we thought Lar against 7 backs, he'd at least knock 2 or 3 in].
I can't feicn wait to see this final. With the history of the last two seasons, and in particular the form of both teams so far in the 2011 championship, this could really be one for the books; forget your 5-in-a-row!!. It looks like the tactics will be more important for both teams than any final before. Tipp struggled badly for possession against Dublin, I'll be interesting to see how they're going to manage against the Cats; and Shefflin with both legs working. Kilkenny had a tough time of it tactically in last years final, with the Tipp forwards dragging them around. They'll want to avoid this and anything resembling the space given to Tipp in the Munster final, but you'd hardly expect Kilkenny to kowtow to Tipp by playing 7 in defense.
I think Tipperary's biggest advantage in this final won't be their forwards. Those boys will score and will probably need cupla cul to win it handy, but Kilkenny won't be giving away anything soft back there. I think it's the Tipp backs and the man between the sticks that could make this a knifes-edge game for 70 minutes. Only 3 goals conceded in 4 championship matches, they'll want to maintain the form. If they fail, Kilkenny will run away with it. If they're up to the task, then ultimately it'll come down to whoever comes out of those rucks carrying the ball, and whoever can make certain of the points from play.
If it goes the latter way, I predict Tipp will have the legs to nudge ahead by 3-4 points.
Get off the fence ! ;)
Quote from: orangeman on August 18, 2011, 01:18:25 PM
Get off the fence ! ;)
Go away with ya. If Tipp don't win this one, Paddy Power gets the house, the car, and the childs college funds (3,000 a year apparently!)
Quote from: TippTony on August 18, 2011, 01:22:49 PM
Quote from: orangeman on August 18, 2011, 01:18:25 PM
Get off the fence ! ;)
Go away with ya. If Tipp don't win this one, Paddy Power gets the house, the car, and the childs college funds (3,000 a year apparently!)
High stakes then for all concerned ! :o
At 80 Euro a ticket I'm trying to get money from paddy power!! I've £50 sitting so twenty on kerry minus the handicap should get me a ticket and passage to croke.
Sunday has the makings of a titanic encounter. Hard one to call. Just hope it is a classic as too many poor games this year.
Here is a preview from my blog - http://mal-sport.blogspot.com/2011/08/cats-to-regain-liam-mccarthy-cup.html
If the last 3 years are anything to go by, this will be a classic.
Some food for thought in this recap of Tipp and Kilkennys road to the 2011 final...
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2011/0830/roadtofinal_reports_kilkenny_tipperary.html
I'm going for the Cats this year.
While both teams have not impressed lately it's the Cats who will be more up for the match after last years collapse.
Will Lar get the same ball and freedom on Sunday? Hard to call but I'm going for a 3 point win for the Cats
Going for the Cats as well, really looking forward to this should be a great game.
Righto lads need keen hurling eyes on this!
DTwo is giving away 500 quid if you can identify the hurler in their skills video on Youtube! Could be from anywhere though... possibly Tipp?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX2C3-y0bDQ
got a few predictions from various people in Derry area, stuck them up on my blog - http://mal-sport.blogspot.com/2011/08/cats-to-beat-bookies.html
My take on it. I think the cats win by 3.
http://shane-sportsramblings.blogspot.com/2011/09/clash-of-titans-cats-to-prevail.html (http://shane-sportsramblings.blogspot.com/2011/09/clash-of-titans-cats-to-prevail.html)
This could be the final to beat all finals, first draw in over 50 years a very real possibility but I think the Cats will shade it. Cody has been preparing them with this game in mind all year. Expect Michael Rice to go onto Pauraic Maher and negate his influence. Then they will rely on Sheffling, Power and Hogan to get the scores. Goals will be crucial but I don't expect to see too many of them, maybe one apiece. The KK FB line will have their work cut out to protect Hegarty (who started off with a blinder against Wexford but has looked more vulnerable recently). The half back line and midfield will work their backsides off to get back and cover but by going 15 on 15 they will worry Tipp offensively, which is something they haven't really encountered since the first half of the Clare game.
From Tipps perspective they have to shut down the KK half back line and take any goal opportunities when they arise. Noel McGrath on Brian Hogan is one to look out for. No surprise not to see Brendan Maher starting, only back from injury and wasn't up to speed in the semi when he came on. Without him and Declan Fanning, Tipp are too light back there imo and that shades it for the Cats. Should be a classic, roll on Sunday.
Eddie Brennan in for TJ Reid.
Tipp by 4+.
Its a toughy to call.
Tipp won't be resting on any laurels, they'll be busting a gut to beat Kilkenny with Shefflin to remove all doubt as to who is the best team and Kilkenny will be uprooting trees to get back on top. I'm expecting it to get hot and heavy very early on. Expect a few yellows to be dished out.
Lar can expect to feel a bit of ash early on.
I think Colm Fennelly will be a loss to Kilkenny as I thought he'd a good game in the semi-final and has a good bit of pace and directness about him which seems to have desserted Eddie Brennan of recent. Neither team set the world alight in their respective semi-final but I think the more all round forward power of Tipp may just shade it.
Can't wait.
Tipp by two points but it'll be late on that this game will be won.
Edit: Colin Fennelly's allegedly fit, so he might make inroads on the Tipp defense, still going for Tipp to shade it slightly.
Going for Kilkenny in this one, just watched the 2010 final, and was thinking there wasn't as much in that game as I had remembered.
Really interest to see how Cody in particular lines the team out. tipp sort of picks itself, will Cody play Murphy on Lar or go for a more experienced player. Usually you could expect Henry to line out on the most inexperienced defender, in this case O'Keefe, but I can't help wonder would he like Larkin hurling here so he can drop right back and help the half backs stay close to the full backs
Michael Rice seems set to try and limit the effectiveness of P Maher but does this then prevent him from dropping back, given the goals conceded last year and the ratio of goals tipp have scored this year I would think first duty was to provide enough men to keep full back line around 20 half backs around he 40 and provide no space to run into behind defenders
I'll go KK 1:16 Tipp 1:14 with Henry MoM
Fancy Kilkenny, just about. If you remember the injuries and side show of Shefflin playing last year it took a fairly spectacular Tipp performance by Tipp to beat them in the end. Kilkenny were well in the game until the last ten minutes. I think Kilkenny are more settled this year and if you look at Tipp this year, Waterford excepted, (who didn't help themselves) i am not sure they have been as impressive as some think.
They are a fantastic team but if they had laid down a marker in the semi against Dublin i would be more confident in them. I think Cody is a dangerous animal with a year to lick his wounds. Shades of Kilkenny v Cork in 2006 when Cork were going for 3 in a row and Kilkenny out worked them. One thing for sure is it will be hard for the players to get a breath on Sunday and if we get anything like the last two years, and 2009 in particular, we will get some treat. Cant wait.
Kilkenny by 3.
Who will win on Sunday - online poll at http://mal-sport.blogspot.com/
Bookies seem to fancy Tipp, but hard to look past the Cat's. Looking forward to watching the best 2 teams in country do battle.
In 2009 it was a much closer final than 2010, and things didn't go right for Tipp with the dodgy penalty awarded to Kilkenny and Benny Dunnes moment of madness. I'd suggest the 2011 Tipperary team are a better side than the 2009 team, while Kilkenny were a stronger team back in 2009.
Kilkenny did not play at all last year though and were still very much in the game until the last ten minutes. It was only the last ten Tipp pulled away.
Intriguing game - I fancy Kilkenny by 4. Be interesting to see who picks up Lar Corbett and how King Henry does as I'd say he'll think he has a point to prove. The Dublin game probably grounded Tipp a bit and was maybe what they needed - Kilkenny and Waterford almost likewise.
Tipp have more firepower and IMO kilkenny are lacking a couple of scoring forwards.
I think Cody will be planning tactical surprises and if KK can keep to his plans they have a chance. Otherwise it's hard to see past tipp.
But anyhow , come on kilkenny!!!
John Mullane mentioned the possibility of a draw on Wed night's Commitee Room. Wouldnt rule it out, hope it is, just to get seeing 2 classics
Brennan's days looked to be numbered a bit - the pace has gone and with it the threat of a guaranteed goal a game. However, TJ was absolutely shocking in the semi-final and probably didn't deserve to keep his place.
Really don't know what way to call it - am possibly more excited than I was for the last two combined. Can't see John O'Brien having the game he did last year.
Kilkenny by a nose.
Kilkenny will be out for revenge and I'd say shoulders and timber will be flying in the first 20 mins or so as the Cats lay down a marker. Ref will need to be on his game too. If Lar is kept quiet I'd fancy Cats by less than 4.
Kilkenny are trying to play Colin Fennelly on one leg. They are badly stuck at that rate. Where is all this great underage talent that they supposedly have?
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 03, 2011, 10:00:18 AM
John Mullane mentioned the possibility of a draw on Wed night's Commitee Room. Wouldnt rule it out, hope it is, just to get seeing 2 classics
With tickets at €80 a go, I'd say the GAA will be the big winner in the event of a draw.
I can't call this one.
It's hard to see KK getting bate 2 years in a row.
Looking forward to this one though it'll be weird watching it in a pub in Luxembourg!! Think Tipp will shade it and hopefully the baby Dubs will win the minor
Just on the KK team named, I think there'll be one change to that before throw in, TJ coming in for Fennelly. Cody swore after 2005 (I think) that he wouldn't play/start injured/doubtful players and he was forced into starting both Shefflin and Tennyson last year for varying reasons. So I can't see him making an exception for Fennelly. Also by not naming TJ he is probably letting him stew for a couple of nights to get his dander up, which might be the kick start he needs. If TJ does start, I expect him to play midfield, Rice pushing on to Maher and Eddie heading inside to sniff around the goal. Eddie hasn't looked sharp this year and had a poor final last year so it'll be interesting to see how that one works out. Watched the replayed final on TG4 last night instead of that dross from Lansdowne and the Cats weren't that far off. They pulled a 6 point lead back in the first half and nearly pulled another 6 point lead back in the second half before Lars third goal finished them off. Not a bad showing on top of Shefflin going off, no Brian Hogan, Tommy Walsh's shoulder not right and Tennyson on one leg. Convinced KK will win tomorrow, plan to head in to see it. Off to watch some 7's shortly, can't beat AI final weekend.
Who won the 7's Croi ?
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 03, 2011, 07:43:42 PM
Who won the 7's Croi ?
Kildangan of Tipp beat Kilmacud Crokes after extra time.
Quote from: Minder on September 03, 2011, 08:00:33 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 03, 2011, 07:43:42 PM
Who won the 7's Croi ?
Kildangan of Tipp beat Kilmacud Crokes after extra time.
Good man Minder, thanks. An omen perhaps for tomorrow ?
All Ireland Final Day! What I wouldn't give to be in Dublin with a ticket to Croke Park today! Weather report looks dodgy, hopefully Croke Park will escape the worst of any rain.
Quote from: TippTony on September 04, 2011, 07:31:02 AM
All Ireland Final Day! What I wouldn't give to be in Dublin with a ticket to Croke Park today! Weather report looks dodgy, hopefully Croke Park will escape the worst of any rain.
Not sure if you're working today/ abroad but if you left Tipp now, got to Dublin with a few hours to spare you'd get a ticket. There are always tickets of the go if you start at the Gresham and head towards Croke via a few pubs. Always.
Tight game. KK by 3.
Only in Bailieboro in Cavan could they have Cemetery Sunday on All Ireland Hurling Final Sunday.
At least they relented from before. Now it's at 2 pm as opposed to 3 pm in previous years. I have not been to a final in 20 years cos of this.
BTW - I dunno really who to shout for. I'll go with The Cats, my fellow Leinster men
Quote from: Glensman on September 04, 2011, 09:18:08 AM
Not sure if you're working today/ abroad but if you left Tipp now, got to Dublin with a few hours to spare you'd get a ticket. There are always tickets of the go if you start at the Gresham and head towards Croke via a few pubs. Always.
Abroad unfortunately. Flew 16 hours to make last years final, was tempted to do it again this year. Have to be content with a big screen in Taipei with our GAA club here!
Just watched the full 2010 final.
Tipp by a similar margin
Imo Tipperary to win handy enough. Kk nowhere near the team they were some years ago. Really hope this is not a hiding although I fear it might.
Hope KK win it and that there is a Leinster double today.
Only a few minutes gone in the minor match and there has been some amount of slipping on the pitch.
Has anyone got the RTE on line coverage running??
Im getting a playlist empty error
Quote from: Rouge_Diablo on September 04, 2011, 03:40:01 PM
Has anyone got the RTE on line coverage running??
Im getting a playlist empty error
Cant help with the coverage but the cats are up by five. tipp yet to score and Tommy Walsh is flying!
Tipp finally off the mark! 16mins gone Kilkenny 0-5 Tipperary 0-1
Tommy Walsh is a class player but imho sometimes a filthy player too.
Tommy Walsh up to his old tricks! Assaulting the ref. ;)
Walsh should watch where he swings that stick! If it wasn't the ref it could have been someone else getting the stick on the bridge of the nose.
Refs to wear helmets next year?
Quote from: andoireabu on September 04, 2011, 03:55:35 PM
Refs to wear helmets next year?
Either that or deal with the guy who swings his hurl, head high, at 5 or 6 people.
Typical Walsh. Great player though.
Quote from: muppet on September 04, 2011, 03:57:15 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on September 04, 2011, 03:55:35 PM
Refs to wear helmets next year?
Either that or deal with the guy who swings his hurl, head high, at 5 or 6 people.
Absolutely no mention on RTE about Walsh deliberately swiping the stick!
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 04, 2011, 04:05:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 04, 2011, 03:57:15 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on September 04, 2011, 03:55:35 PM
Refs to wear helmets next year?
Either that or deal with the guy who swings his hurl, head high, at 5 or 6 people.
Absolutely no mention on RTE about Walsh deliberately swiping the stick!
The crazy thing is he swung it a few times during that row.
Kilkenny much the better team should be more ahead.
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 04, 2011, 04:08:55 PM
Kilkenny much the better team should be more ahead.
Aye given away too many scores from frees.
Is conceivable that Hickey and Walsh could have got the line in this half.
Surely Hickey got booked for that leg trip ??
Tipp will be majorly disappointed with first half showing, Kilkenny all over them. Frees keeping Tipp in touch. Lar cannot get any ball at all. Cody some buck.
Kilkenny at their most cynical in the 1st half. Ref really has to get a grip on the steps being taken by KK forwards. Tommy Walsh at his antihero best.
Still fancy Tipp though.
Canalman, I know you have a problem with Kilkenny, but they were great in that first half. Tommy Walsh is a fiery, semi lunatic, on the field but he is very cultured on the ball and class as well.
Gavin has blown KK for overcarrying at least 2 or 3 times.
I'd say Kilkenny's biggest issue will be can they last the pace. I think they'll need to be 6-7 points up in the last 10, because Tipp are hanging around even though they've been blown away, and Tipp will finish strong if they are in it.
Jesus some lads here are worse than AZ's football Nualas. 117 positive moments and buckets of skill and courage and resolve in the game so far and everybody wants to seek out the negative. Is it the receession or what? It wouldn't be much of a game if it was played by choirboys and angels.
Enjoy, celebrate.
AZ , nobody around who admires Tommy Walsh more than me.
Honestly think that Tipp will have a spell on top and have the forwards on show to get the scores. Truth be told KK should be 7/8 points up by now.
Bruising and brilliant game. Bring on the second half.
Quote from: Hardy on September 04, 2011, 04:21:36 PM
Jesus some lads here are worse than AZ's football Nualas. 117 positive moments and buckets of skill and courage and resolve in the game so far and everybody wants to seek out the negative. Is it the receession or what? It wouldn't be much of a game if it was played by choirboys and angels.
Enjoy, celebrate.
You're right, we should laud the guy swinging his hurl wildly hitting the ref in the head. Absorbing.
Great goal.
Some goal.
Absolutely class goal.
Always liked Richie Hogan since he was a minor (at 16 I think?)
Goal for Tipp game on?
Lar very quiet all day then sets up a goal. Could make for a great finish
How are Tipp still in this?! Dodgy keeping from Herity.
Goal in it. C'mon Tipp.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 04, 2011, 04:53:35 PM
How are Tipp still in this?! Dodgy keeping from Herity.
Yeah how? I'd say Kilkenny will pull away in the end.
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 04, 2011, 04:59:40 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 04, 2011, 04:53:35 PM
How are Tipp still in this?! Dodgy keeping from Herity.
Yeah how? I'd say Kilkenny will pull away in the end.
Shot along the ground that went past him. I've seen harder stopped
Well done Kilkenny! Tipp probably reached their peak in the Munster final.
Well done the Cats. Proved this humble poster wrong.
Motm was Jackie Tyrrell by a country mile imo. Fennelly and Hogan probably in with a shout also.
Tyrell was class, but I thought Walsh was brilliant
Had Cats to win by 1-3 points. Larkin ruined that! :-[
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 04, 2011, 05:09:16 PM
Tyrell was class, but I thought Walsh was brilliant
Yea, near the end there he burst out with the ball to midfield and hit the usual cross-field pass. He teammate lost it, the ball was driven in long and feck me who was under it but Walsh again, he must have sprinted back 30-40 to get there.
Feel sorry (to a degree) for Declan Ryan. The fallout after today will not be pretty in Tipperary.
Tommy Walsh was excellent but I really would love him to explain how his hurl ended up on refs nose. There is an edge to his game that clouds general brillance.
Quote from: muppet on September 04, 2011, 04:06:14 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 04, 2011, 04:05:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 04, 2011, 03:57:15 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on September 04, 2011, 03:55:35 PM
Refs to wear helmets next year?
Either that or deal with the guy who swings his hurl, head high, at 5 or 6 people.
Absolutely no mention on RTE about Walsh deliberately swiping the stick!
The crazy thing is he swung it a few times during that row.
He was like William Wallace in full flight, swinging his sword at anyone--if that was me swinging my stick i'd be very concious that i was running a very real risk of being sent off--Tommy is a lunatic and was very lucky there.
Awesome, awesome hurler though --on for 9 Allstars in a row--incredible
Saw him one night in Nowlan Park at a Kilkenny trainin session and he was like an animal that night during the game at the end--no friends there
Good game to watch, exciting finish.
The game was won by the Kilkenny backs, particularly Tyrell and Walsh who were outstanding throughout and cleaned up just about every ball that came in their way.
Tipp looked at half pace in the first half, similar to the semi final game against Dublin, and only played to their full ability in patches in the second. It was enough to keep them in it, but was never going to be enough to win a final.
Well done to Kilkenny, fully deserved. Mind that Cup for us, we'll be looking for it back again next year ;)
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 04, 2011, 04:59:40 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 04, 2011, 04:53:35 PM
How are Tipp still in this?! Dodgy keeping from Herity.
Yeah how? I'd say Kilkenny will pull away in the end.
It was straight at him, soft alright.
Michael Fennelly's first half goal was probably the key moment for Kilkenny. Had they gone in at half time only leading by 2 after dominating, the door would have been wide open for Tipp.
Quote from: Premier Emperor on September 03, 2011, 01:58:37 PM
Kilkenny are trying to play Colin Fennelly on one leg. They are badly stuck at that rate. Where is all this great underage talent that they supposedly have?
Both of them look grand.
Kilkenny enforced their will on that game from the first minute, it is some measure of fellas like Delaney, Hickey and Tyrell and the performances they put in after being written off in some quarters after last years final. Kilkenny should have won by more but started messing about and overplaying the ball midway through the second half and Brian Gavin giving nearly every 50/50 call to Tipp, i thought he was very poor.
I would think that was the sweetest one for Cody, there would have been no way he would entertain the idea of defeat and would have been planning for this day since the 1st January. Michael Fennelly is turning into an absolute behemoth for Kilkenny, he put in a tackle today (fairly) that looked like something out of the WWE. Probably won't get as much credit as some but Eoin Larkin put in an unreal effort today, he never stopped moving, tackling and chasing back. Brennan still has a bit of gas in the legs yet judging by that run to set up Hogans goal.
Tommy Walsh had an absolute masterclass today and Kilkennys victory started with their backs.
Quote from: muppet on September 04, 2011, 04:45:01 PM
Absolutely class goal.
Always liked Richie Hogan since he was a minor (at 16 I think?)
That's more like it, Muppet. You've been very grumpy for a while.
Fair play to Kilkenny great performance by them today . Thought jj delaney had a stormer today cleared everthing that came his way. hogans goal would have been worth the admission fee alone pure class.
Thought Tommy Walsh was super today...........and that ref needed checking, he tried his best to keep Tipp in the game by giving them soft frees. Would love to see him mark the Gooch. The game would have been over at half time had the ref not given Tipp some very soft frees in scoring positions. Not sure who the Kilkenny lad was, who was swung around the neck with a few minutes to go and no free given, unreal.
Well done Kilkenny, worthy champions and great to see King Henry back in full flight.
Phenomenal performance from KK (plenty of messing that can be ironed out too, so they've a while left yet!) - the intensity was absolutely ferocious at times. Completely and utterly wiped out all the big Tipp names. Should have won by more than four really.
Walsh, Murphy, Tyrrell, Delaney (set the tone with the shoulder on Lar) and both Fennellys were outstanding. I was at the Canal End 45 in the lower Cusack, so couldn't see the incident with Walsh and can't comment - have obviously seen on here and got a few texts about striking. Incredible hurler though.
Thought the ref was poor in general and gave a lot of soft frees to both teams. One down near me Jackie Tyrell was in disbelief at one being given against him after he won the ball and held off a charge.
Anyone know why Tipp took off John O'Brien? Was one of the few Tipp forwards doing anything.
Quote from: Hardy on September 04, 2011, 06:42:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 04, 2011, 04:45:01 PM
Absolutely class goal.
Always liked Richie Hogan since he was a minor (at 16 I think?)
That's more like it, Muppet. You've been very grumpy for a while.
I've been in great form thank you.
Phenomenal peformance for the Cats. Some pace and intensity for 70 mins - I thought JJ was MOTM myself but they could give to any of them. Second goal was a thing of beauty. Fai play to them - greatest team in the history of the game I reckon.
Met a great crowd of lads today flying the GAA flag in Luxembourg - great day all round( except for minor result)
Quote from: saffronandblue on September 04, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
...........and that ref needed checking, he tried his best to keep Tipp in the game by giving them soft frees. Would love to see him mark the Gooch. The game would have been over at half time had the ref not given Tipp some very soft frees in scoring positions. Not sure who the Kilkenny lad was, who was swung around the neck with a few minutes to go and no free given, unreal.
I thought the same.
Those bloody hurlin refs get away with murder ... one sided decision making , men half killed and no frees ... if a football ref makes one mistake in a game the Sunday game
gob pundits go to town on him. Yet all the hurly burly crowd want is the Ref to "let it flow" and then he's grand. ::)
Kilkenny should have been much firther ahead at the end they were so dominant. Shows they're slipping. In 07 or 08 they'd have won that one by 8 or 10 points.
Anyway here's hoping for 2 new teams to make the Hurling Final next year as it's all getting a bit stale for us neutrals.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 04, 2011, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: saffronandblue on September 04, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
...........and that ref needed checking, he tried his best to keep Tipp in the game by giving them soft frees. Would love to see him mark the Gooch. The game would have been over at half time had the ref not given Tipp some very soft frees in scoring positions. Not sure who the Kilkenny lad was, who was swung around the neck with a few minutes to go and no free given, unreal.
I thought the same.
Those bloody hurlin refs get away with murder ... one sided decision making , men half killed and no frees ... if a football ref makes one mistake in a game the Sunday game gob pundits go to town on him. Yet all the hurly burly crowd want is the Ref to "let it flow" and then he's grand. ::)
Kilkenny should have been much firther ahead at the end they were so dominant. Shows they're slipping. In 07 or 08 they'd have won that one by 8 or 10 points.
Anyway here's hoping for 2 new teams to make the Hurling Final next year as it's all getting a bit stale for us neutrals.
I hope that was said in jest. The two of them have provided three of the most exciting finals in memory over the last three years.
Would people prefer to see two different teams playing at a lower standard? Kilkenny in particular have some of the finest players to ever lift a hurl. Make the most of it while it's here and applaud excellence.
Quote from: Minder on September 04, 2011, 09:38:10 PM
Would people prefer to see two different teams playing at a lower standard? Kilkenny in particular have some of the finest players to ever lift a hurl. Make the most of it while it's here and applaud excellence.
+1
Spot on Minder
Highlight I hadn't seen during the game - throw ball between Shefflin and Benny Dunne. Henry dips instead of pulling, Dunne's hurl breaks across Shefflin's shins, Henry sticks it over. Magical.
Gear grinding rugby and soccer advertising whilst folks want to watch hurling
The two midfielders from the Sunday Game's Team, Fennelly and Rushe to pick up Player and Young Player of the Year?
Quote from: gallsman on September 04, 2011, 10:36:16 PM
Highlight I hadn't seen during the game - throw ball between Shefflin and Benny Dunne. Henry dips instead of pulling, Dunne's hurl breaks across Shefflin's shins, Henry sticks it over. Magical.
I was just about to write that and noticed you beat me to it!! Definitely a piece of magic from the King.
Jesus.
I wished we were a hurling county! :-\
That said, it would be nice if we were a football county either :-\ :-\
Great occasion. Kilkenny worthy champions. Cody looked like a man who had a death sentence commuted to free wine gums for life. He took last year badly and he must have taken today as redemption. Which wasn't needed. What has he done - 8 All Irelands in 13 years. Class act.
Talking of handy frees and letting the game flow I thought the KK lads were right on the edge, everytine a tipp lad got the ball there was a little pull of the arm and then let go, would have been soft frees but it was systematic throughout the game
Who got the official MOTM?
Quote from: gallsman on September 04, 2011, 09:31:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 04, 2011, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: saffronandblue on September 04, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
...........and that ref needed checking, he tried his best to keep Tipp in the game by giving them soft frees. Would love to see him mark the Gooch. The game would have been over at half time had the ref not given Tipp some very soft frees in scoring positions. Not sure who the Kilkenny lad was, who was swung around the neck with a few minutes to go and no free given, unreal.
I thought the same.
Those bloody hurlin refs get away with murder ... one sided decision making , men half killed and no frees ... if a football ref makes one mistake in a game the Sunday game gob pundits go to town on him. Yet all the hurly burly crowd want is the Ref to "let it flow" and then he's grand. ::)
Kilkenny should have been much firther ahead at the end they were so dominant. Shows they're slipping. In 07 or 08 they'd have won that one by 8 or 10 points.
Anyway here's hoping for 2 new teams to make the Hurling Final next year as it's all getting a bit stale for us neutrals.
I hope that was said in jest. The two of them have provided three of the most exciting finals in memory over the last three years.
Why were there loads of spare tickets floating around yesterday ???
If Limerick/Wexford/Waterford etc were in it there wouldnt have been a sniff of a ticket anywhere.
Quote from: gallsman on September 04, 2011, 10:36:16 PM
Highlight I hadn't seen during the game - throw ball between Shefflin and Benny Dunne. Henry dips instead of pulling, Dunne's hurl breaks across Shefflin's shins, Henry sticks it over. Magical.
unbelievable piece of skill. The second KK goal i thought was magnificant hurling
An intense, enthralling game rather than a classic but a phenomenal display by Kilkenny. The scoreboard flattered Tipp and KK should have been 10 in fromt at half time. As another poster states after the 2nd goal they faffed about a bit, trying to work the ball in a for another goal instead of taking a "handy" point. The KK backs were sensational, Walsh (why do RTE insist on referring to him as "Welsh"?), can be a hateful hoor but what a hurler, JJ Delaney didn't put a foot wrong, Paul Murphy had a huge game and Jackie Tyrell was...Jackie Tyrell. Larry Corbett and Eoin Kelly hardly got a touch. Up front Shefflin was masterful, the two Fennellys were brilliant and if Eddie Brennan is finished we'll take him in Antrim all day!
On a few specific point it would ahve been interesting to see what would have happened had Walsh hit a Tipp player instead of the ref. The foul against Tyrell down in the Canal corner was given for Jackie leading with the head on a Tipp forward.
Kilkenny are an insipration to watch. As good a team that played any sport ever.
Well apart from TJ starting that worked out as I expected, although if I knew KK were gonna be so sharp and Tipp so lax I would have predicted more than a 2 point win and it should definitely have been more than 4. JJ and Tommy were immense in the half back line and Tipp just couldn't keep them quiet. Hogan had a savage game on Noel McGrath as well and that line was the foundation for their victory. They got their match ups right inside this year and won midfield hands down, never seen Shane McGrath so anonymous.
Power lead the charge on the half forward line and Henry went to town on O'Keeffe, which is some achievement seeing as his pace has gone. Fennelly was flying inside and made a mockery of the injury concerns. Brennan and Hogan were the quietest of the forwards but linked up brilliantly for one of the goals of the year, some finish.
I thought Pauraic Maher got his just rewards for acting the bollox in the semi final, didn't get the benefit of the doubt from Brian Gavin and was kept busy by Brennan. Fair play to the ref for carrying on after getting swiped, Tommy mustn't be happy just assaulting the opposition these days :P To be fair his wasn't the only hurl flying about but his luck will run out some day.
Well done the Cats, wonder will there be any/many retirements?
The KK goalkeeper could be doing some extra laps in training next year given his perfromance when being interviewed at the banquet on the Sunday game.
Not sure if Cody will appreciate his sense of humour.....
Brian Gavin interviewed after the match http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHW6OzvWC6g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHW6OzvWC6g)
Quote from: AQMP on September 05, 2011, 09:56:45 AM
, Walsh (why do RTE insist on referring to him as "Welsh"?),
Because that is how it is pronounced by most people in Connacht,Munster and Leinster outside of Kilkenny.
It's called Welsh by everyone in Kilkenny... also the Gaeilge is Breathnach which means Welshman so arguably Welsh is the proper version.
Quote from: tyroneman on September 05, 2011, 12:37:59 PM
The KK goalkeeper could be doing some extra laps in training next year given his perfromance when being interviewed at the banquet on the Sunday game.
Not sure if Cody will appreciate his sense of humour.....
missed that what did he say
Quote from: the Deel Rover on September 05, 2011, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 05, 2011, 12:37:59 PM
The KK goalkeeper could be doing some extra laps in training next year given his perfromance when being interviewed at the banquet on the Sunday game.
Not sure if Cody will appreciate his sense of humour.....
missed that what did he say
You could be right, Brennan was doing the "timeout" signal ! He seemed to be half cut.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2011, 12:41:52 PM
Quote from: AQMP on September 05, 2011, 09:56:45 AM
, Walsh (why do RTE insist on referring to him as "Welsh"?),
Because that is how it is pronounced by most people in Connacht,Munster and Leinster outside of Kilkenny.
It's called Welsh by everyone in Kilkenny... also the Gaeilge is Breathnach which means Welshman so arguably Welsh is the proper version.
Maybe...a mate of mine is married to a Corkwoman of that name and she says Walsh...
I was reminded this morning, while reading the player ratings in the Irish News, that it's coverage of hurling is atrocious. Paul Murphy and Brian Hogan both got 6.5
Jesus
I'm not surprised. Bar a passing glance at someone elses...I dont give the sports section in the IN the time of day anymore
Quote from: Minder on September 05, 2011, 12:49:53 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on September 05, 2011, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 05, 2011, 12:37:59 PM
The KK goalkeeper could be doing some extra laps in training next year given his perfromance when being interviewed at the banquet on the Sunday game.
Not sure if Cody will appreciate his sense of humour.....
missed that what did he say
You could be right, Brennan was doing the "timeout" signal ! He seemed to be half cut.
That was class! He was in great form. Just 1 pint too many mixed with excitement. The worst thing happened him was people laughed the first time. He thought he was Tommy Tiernan after that.
What did yer man say?
Quote from: tyroneman on September 05, 2011, 12:37:59 PM
The KK goalkeeper could be doing some extra laps in training next year given his perfromance when being interviewed at the banquet on the Sunday game.
Not sure if Cody will appreciate his sense of humour.....
I'd say Cody would be more worried about the goal he let in. One thing is for sure, PJ Ryan won't be eating all around him this Christmas.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2011, 12:41:52 PM
Quote from: AQMP on September 05, 2011, 09:56:45 AM
, Walsh (why do RTE insist on referring to him as "Welsh"?),
Because that is how it is pronounced by most people in Connacht,Munster and Leinster outside of Kilkenny.
It's called Welsh by everyone in Kilkenny... also the Gaeilge is Breathnach which means Welshman so arguably Welsh is the proper version.
Not everyone, there's a good few down there that call it Walsh as well.
Ah it was all good natured. He was making fun of the whole "Cody doesn't use tactics" myth by describing him as a master tactician, saying he's always coming out with little tactical gems like "win your own ball" and "score a point" etc..
Quote from: Minder on September 05, 2011, 01:08:32 PM
I was reminded this morning, while reading the player ratings in the Irish News, that it's coverage of hurling is atrocious. Paul Murphy and Brian Hogan both got 6.5
Christ I would have had Murphy as a contender for man of the match.
Maybe it was 6.5 out of 7.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on September 05, 2011, 03:12:29 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 05, 2011, 12:37:59 PM
The KK goalkeeper could be doing some extra laps in training next year given his perfromance when being interviewed at the banquet on the Sunday game.
Not sure if Cody will appreciate his sense of humour.....
I'd say Cody would be more worried about the goal he let in. One thing is for sure, PJ Ryan won't be eating all around him this Christmas.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2011, 12:41:52 PM
Quote from: AQMP on September 05, 2011, 09:56:45 AM
, Walsh (why do RTE insist on referring to him as "Welsh"?),
Because that is how it is pronounced by most people in Connacht,Munster and Leinster outside of Kilkenny.
It's called Welsh by everyone in Kilkenny... also the Gaeilge is Breathnach which means Welshman so arguably Welsh is the proper version.
Not everyone, there's a good few down there that call it Walsh as well.
It's Welsh where I come from also.
Everyone in Kilkenny would say Welsh.