Great result for Limerick getting to a quarter final for the first time with a last minute winner over Wexford. Also a great result for the other small Munster team who will also join Kerry and Limerick in the last 8. Great day for the province.
Cork players aren't exactly that small are they?
Small in medal count :P
fair play to limerick, written off by everyone. pity galvin is mising out on their run, one of the greats of modern game.
Quote from: Kerry Mike on July 23, 2011, 09:23:36 PM
Small in medal count :P
Cork have 37 AIs last time I checked. ;)
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 23, 2011, 09:25:28 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on July 23, 2011, 09:23:36 PM
Small in medal count :P
Cork have 37 AIs last time I checked. ;)
Yeah but they had to carry schticks to win 30 of those :P
Limerick got the toughest draw possible after claiming their first quarter final berth, but out of the shackles of a Munster championship which they have craved after and come close on many occasions over the last 10 years, and a first outing in Croker in years they will be formidable opponents for us in the quarter final , they will have Lucey and a few more of the hurlers available and with the likes of Stephen Kelly and Ian Ryan will cause us problems, this is not the foregore conclusion everyone thinks it will be and Kerry certainly need to be on their guard here, with no thought of the semi final.
Having Tomas O'Se back on his old nemephis Stephn Kelly will be an interesting clash , Paul Galvin is fit but cant see him starting , will be hard to dispose either of the O'Sullivan's or Donnacha Walsh at this stage in the half line.
I expect only one change with Tomas coming in for Shane Enright who will be unluckly to lose out , Tommy Griffin also back in harness but cant see him featuring.
2pm Sunday, crap timing but what can you do >:(
Not go.
Like the vast majority of Kerry fans.
QuoteNot go.
Like the vast majority of Kerry fans.
it's called "yerra I'll wait for the final"
A tandem bicycle could be use to transport all the Kerry supporters up to the 1/4 final.
Quote from: blanketattack on July 25, 2011, 05:13:58 PM
A tandem bicycle could be use to transport all the Kerry supporters up to the 1/4 final.
;D
Kerry Mike, you paint a lovely picture of limericks potential................................... can you just not let it all hang out there, its a whooping
Kerry played Roscommon in a challenge yesterday. Tomas was on for Enright and Galvin started on the wing. Darren O'Sullivan was moved into the corner with Kieran O'Leary losing out.
who won.................................rossies by 5 at least...................who had the wind in the first half :-X
Munster football is a poor relation when compared with Leinster and Ulster. Yes it has the best two teams in Ireland but its also overrun with very bad ones.
QuoteMunster football is a poor relation when compared with Leinster and Ulster. Yes it has the best two teams in Ireland but its also overrun with very bad ones.
I'd be very insulted if I was from Waterford, Tipperary, Cork or Clare.
Quote from: ck on July 25, 2011, 10:18:18 PM
Munster football is a poor relation when compared with Leinster and Ulster. Yes it has the best two teams in Ireland but its also overrun with very bad ones.
3 Munster teams in the quarter finals, You cant argue with that. Leinster and Ulster are more competitive because you have a lot of teams on the same average level. Where as in Munster we have Cork and Kerry to contend with. If Limerick had been in connacht or Leinster we would definatley have a provincial title.
Limerick wouldn't come within an asses roar of a Leinster championship.
Don't kid yourself you're anything special just because you jammed a win over WEXFORD.
By rights there should be 3 Leinster, 1 Connacht, 2 Ulster and 2 Munster teams in the quarters.
Quote from: Jinxy on July 26, 2011, 05:24:28 PM
Limerick wouldn't come within an asses roar of a Leinster championship.
Don't kid yourself you're anything special just because you jammed a win over WEXFORD.
By rights there should be 3 Leinster, 1 Connacht, 2 Ulster and 2 Munster teams in the quarters.
Limerick would most certainly have won a Leinster championship in the past ten years had they been in the province, probably more than one.
Don't be silly.
There is no Dublin team of the last 10 years that would lose to them.
You are placing way too much weight on Limerick occasionally putting it up to Cork and Kerry before they have got into full stride.
They put it up to both every year and beat Cork in cork and should have beaten them again except for 2 late goals, if memory serves me. Believe me cork and Kerry were in full stride when meeting Limerick in munster finals. They'd have beaten dublin at least once, of that I'm sure.
Which Dublin team would they have beaten?
Quote from: Jinxy on July 26, 2011, 05:24:28 PM
Limerick wouldn't come within an asses roar of a Leinster championship.
Don't kid yourself you're anything special just because you jammed a win over WEXFORD.
By rights there should be 3 Leinster, 1 Connacht, 2 Ulster and 2 Munster teams in the quarters.
Sorry should clarify, Not this year but if we had of been in leinster championship since we have been competitive. Around 2003. We would have walked the leinster in 2004. We had a serious team then that broke up once Kearns left.
Quote from: The Burner on July 26, 2011, 05:57:46 PM
Sorry should clarify, Not this year but if we had of been in leinster championship since we have been competitive. Around 2003. We would have walked the leinster in 2004. We had a serious team then that broke up once Kearns left.
And if your aunty had balls what would you have??
I know I should defend another Munster man against any opposition but I can't agree with you. Limerick failed their true test during the Kearns era. They had Kerry on the ropes and let them slip for a draw, before being taken in a replay. That was the one, and only, day that I worried about Limerick.
Jinx I couldn't name a particular team but the fact remains that Limerick had, maybe still do, a very good championship team over the past ten years. They could have won any of the provinces over the past ten years. I don't see how you can be sure Limerick wouldn't have beaten Dublin at least once when they were very competitive against better teams (Kerry & cork). At the very least that suggests they would have been competitive against everyone in Leinster and the law of averages would make it likely that they would have won at least one. We'll never know but they were far better over the past ten years than you are crediting them with.
Limerick Championship Results outside Munster
2001
Limerick 0-07 - 0-17 Westmeath
2002
Limerick 3-09 - 2-07 Offaly
Mayo 0-13 - 1-09 Limerick
2003
Armagh 4-10 Limerick 0-11
2004
Derry 0-10 - 0-07 Limerick
2005
Limerick 2-15 - 0-07 Carlow
Derry 0-13 - 0-09 Limerick
2006
Westmeath 0-13 - 1-09 Limerick
2007
Limerick 0-13 - 0-14 Louth
2008
Limerick 4-12- 4-03 Meath
Limerick 0-11 - 1-11 Kildare
2009
Limerick 2-09 - 1-13 Meath
2010
No non-Munster opposition
2011
Limerick 3-13 - 0-15 Offaly
Limerick 1-18 - 1-17 Wexford
Hardly inspiring stuff, their win against Wexford was their first championship win against a non-Munster side that wasn't played in Limerick in the last 10 years. Not a hope in hell that Limerick would have won a Leinster Title.
Nonsense, Limerick put their heart and soul into winning munster. After the heartbreak of losing those finals they found it very difficult to pick themselves up. You'll also note they lost a number of games by a point, futher underlining their competitiveness.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:04:15 PM
Limerick Championship Results outside Munster
2001
Limerick 0-07 - 0-17 Westmeath
2002
Limerick 3-09 - 2-07 Offaly
Mayo 0-13 - 1-09 Limerick
2003
Armagh 4-10 Limerick 0-11
2004
Derry 0-10 - 0-07 Limerick
2005
Limerick 2-15 - 0-07 Carlow
Derry 0-13 - 0-09 Limerick
2006
Westmeath 0-13 - 1-09 Limerick
2007
Limerick 0-13 - 0-14 Louth
2008
Limerick 4-12- 4-03 Meath
Limerick 0-11 - 1-11 Kildare
2009
Limerick 2-09 - 1-13 Meath
2010
No non-Munster opposition
2011
Limerick 3-13 - 0-15 Offaly
Limerick 1-18 - 1-17 Wexford
Hardly inspiring stuff, their win against Wexford was their first championship win against a non-Munster side that wasn't played in Limerick in the last 10 years. Not a hope in hell that Limerick would have won a Leinster Title.
I said since 2003. In 04 we were beat by Kerry in a replayed Munster final below in Killarney. Our match against Derry was our 3rd in 3 weeks and were never likely to win it after the disappointment of the Munster final. Mickey Moran to his credit acknowledged as much in his post match interview. If im not mistaken the Leinster champions of 04 Westmeath were beaten by Derry in the quarter final. No doubt in my mind we would have walked Leinster in 04. I genuinely believe Limerick were in the top 5 or 6 counties in 04.
Sorry Zulu you can't argue with facts. Their is absolutely no consistency to their performances expect the odd moral victory against Cork or Kerry, you think Meath, Kildare, Louth Mayo, Derry or Westmeath don't put their heart and soul into winning provincial titles? What happened this brilliant side in 2002, 2005 and 2008 when they actually won their first qualifier game and lost their very next one?
You are mistaking the odd performance against 2 sides who are not trying to peak physically or mentally in July and then pay lip service to Limerick. If they were a good side there would some sign of consistency.
Sorry but Laois in 2004 were one of the great under-achieving sides and a far better side with pedigree than Limerick. The Leinster winners that year were Westmeath who like Laois were fulfilling under-age promise, they probably celebrated that Leinster too much and mentally weren't right for Derry. I would bet on Dublin beating Limerick any time in the last 10 years too.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:25:41 PM
Sorry Zulu you can't argue with facts. Their is absolutely no consistency to their performances expect the odd moral victory against Cork or Kerry, you think Meath, Kildare, Louth Mayo, Derry or Westmeath don't put their heart and soul into winning provincial titles? What happened this brilliant side in 2002, 2005 and 2008 when they actually won their first qualifier game and lost their very next one?
You are mistaking the odd performance against 2 sides who are not trying to peak physically or mentally in July and then pay lip service to Limerick. If they were a good side there would some sign of consistency.
convenient you leave out 04, actually throw in 2010 team as well when we had all the hurlers. cracking side. This years team isnt as good.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:33:57 PM
Sorry but Laois in 2004 were one of the great under-achieving sides and a far better side with pedigree than Limerick. The Leinster winners that year were Westmeath who like Laois were fulfilling under-age promise, they probably celebrated that Leinster too much and mentally weren't right for Derry. I would bet on Dublin beating Limerick any time in the last 10 years too.
Newsflash Dinny Limerick beat Westmeath in u21 all ireland semi final before losing to a great tyrone side in the final. The basis of our 2004 team came from that u21 team. Now how does it feel to have your arse handed to you on a plate by a newbie?
Limerick didn't win a qualifier in 2004, Limerick were beaten by Derry, a Derry side even Lynchbhoy would struggle to rate.
Have to agree with the Burner on this one, convinced they would have won one. Always really admired that Limerick team, just a pity they never managed to get a Munster. At the very least they would have contested a number of finals especially given the standard of Leinster football over last 10 years.
Their form in narrowly losing to Kerry in Munster final and taking Cork to extra time would suggest that last years Leinster championship would have been up for grabs for them as well.
From the games I saw of both teams last year they were a better team than Louth, who should have been Leinster champions.
For a predominately hurling and rugby county, they deserve any credit that comes there way this year.
Quote from: The Burner on July 26, 2011, 11:40:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:33:57 PM
Sorry but Laois in 2004 were one of the great under-achieving sides and a far better side with pedigree than Limerick. The Leinster winners that year were Westmeath who like Laois were fulfilling under-age promise, they probably celebrated that Leinster too much and mentally weren't right for Derry. I would bet on Dublin beating Limerick any time in the last 10 years too.
Newsflash Dinny Limerick beat Westmeath in u21 all ireland semi final before losing to a great tyrone side in the final. The basis of our 2004 team came from that u21 team. Now how does it feel to have your arse handed to you on a plate by a newbie?
Eh I'm half Westmeath so I should remind you that Westmeath won the All-Ireland the year before. You know I could say that Limerick have a tenancy to choke in finals even in the hurling since you brought it up so who is to say that they wouldn't have choked in Leinster final if they got that far.
No need to be hostile, just don't think Limerick over the last 10 years apart from the odd moral victory have been anything great, imho they would not have won a Leinster, Connacht or an Ulster title.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:42:30 PM
Limerick didn't win a qualifier in 2004, Limerick were beaten by Derry, a Derry side even Lynchbhoy would struggle to rate.
A Derry side that beat the Leinster champions that year!!! After 2 titanic struggles with Kerry that year it was always going to be a huge ask to go out again 6 days later after losing the replay to Kerry in Killarney
A Westmeath side that had won their first ever Leinster title, you don't think there was a hang-over when they played Derry. One of their great regrets.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:48:43 PM
Quote from: The Burner on July 26, 2011, 11:40:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:33:57 PM
Sorry but Laois in 2004 were one of the great under-achieving sides and a far better side with pedigree than Limerick. The Leinster winners that year were Westmeath who like Laois were fulfilling under-age promise, they probably celebrated that Leinster too much and mentally weren't right for Derry. I would bet on Dublin beating Limerick any time in the last 10 years too.
Newsflash Dinny Limerick beat Westmeath in u21 all ireland semi final before losing to a great tyrone side in the final. The basis of our 2004 team came from that u21 team. Now how does it feel to have your arse handed to you on a plate by a newb
Eh I'm half Westmeath so I should remind you that Westmeath won the All-Ireland the year before. You know I could say that Limerick have a tenancy to choke in finals even in the hurling since you brought it up so who is to say that they wouldn't have choked in Leinster final if they got that far.
No need to be hostile, just don't think Limerick over the last 10 years apart from the odd moral victory have been anything great, imho they would not have won a Leinster, Connacht or an Ulster title.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:48:43 PM
Quote from: The Burner on July 26, 2011, 11:40:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:33:57 PM
Sorry but Laois in 2004 were one of the great under-achieving sides and a far better side with pedigree than Limerick. The Leinster winners that year were Westmeath who like Laois were fulfilling under-age promise, they probably celebrated that Leinster too much and mentally weren't right for Derry. I would bet on Dublin beating Limerick any time in the last 10 years too.
Newsflash Dinny Limerick beat Westmeath in u21 all ireland semi final before losing to a great tyrone side in the final. The basis of our 2004 team came from that u21 team. Now how does it feel to have your arse handed to you on a plate by a newbie?
Eh I'm half Westmeath so I should remind you that Westmeath won the All-Ireland the year before. You know I could say that Limerick have a tenancy to choke in finals even in the hurling since you brought it up so who is to say that they wouldn't have choked in Leinster final if they got that far.
No need to be hostile, just don't think Limerick over the last 10 years apart from the odd moral victory have been anything great, imho they would not have won a Leinster, Connacht or an Ulster title.
I was well aware that they won it the year before but you were the one who brought up underage success. i was merely pointing out that we had under age success aswell. And how the F are you half Westmeath. Your either Kildare or Westmeath. Half Westmeath, what a load of bull
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:48:43 PM
Quote from: The Burner on July 26, 2011, 11:40:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:33:57 PM
Sorry but Laois in 2004 were one of the great under-achieving sides and a far better side with pedigree than Limerick. The Leinster winners that year were Westmeath who like Laois were fulfilling under-age promise, they probably celebrated that Leinster too much and mentally weren't right for Derry. I would bet on Dublin beating Limerick any time in the last 10 years too.
Newsflash Dinny Limerick beat Westmeath in u21 all ireland semi final before losing to a great tyrone side
in the final. The basis of our 2004 team came from that u21 team. Now how does it feel to have your arse handed to you on a plate by a newbie?
Eh I'm half Westmeath so I should remind you that Westmeath won the All-Ireland the year before. You know I could say that Limerick have a tenancy to choke in finals even in the hurling since you brought it up so who is to say that they wouldn't have choked in Leinster final if they got that far.
No need to be hostile, just don't think Limerick over the last 10 years apart from the odd moral victory have been anything great, imho they would not have won a Leinster, Connacht or an Ulster title.
Surely would have won a Connacht and thats meant with no disrespect to Connacht championship but to do with the fact only 5 competitors there compared to 11 in Leinster
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:51:34 PM
A Westmeath side that had won their first ever Leinster title, you don't think there was a hang-over when they played Derry. One of their great regrets.
I was at that game and I couldn't believe how lifeless Westmeath were.
Quote from: The Burner on July 26, 2011, 11:55:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:48:43 PM
Quote from: The Burner on July 26, 2011, 11:40:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:33:57 PM
Sorry but Laois in 2004 were one of the great under-achieving sides and a far better side with pedigree than Limerick. The Leinster winners that year were Westmeath who like Laois were fulfilling under-age promise, they probably celebrated that Leinster too much and mentally weren't right for Derry. I would bet on Dublin beating Limerick any time in the last 10 years too.
Newsflash Dinny Limerick beat Westmeath in u21 all ireland semi final before losing to a great tyrone side in the final. The basis of our 2004 team came from that u21 team. Now how does it feel to have your arse handed to you on a plate by a newbie?
Eh I'm half Westmeath so I should remind you that Westmeath won the All-Ireland the year before. You know I could say that Limerick have a tenancy to choke in finals even in the hurling since you brought it up so who is to say that they wouldn't have choked in Leinster final if they got that far.
No need to be hostile, just don't think Limerick over the last 10 years apart from the odd moral victory have been anything great, imho they would not have won a Leinster, Connacht or an Ulster title.
I was well aware that they won it the year before but you were the one who brought up underage success. i was merely pointing out that we had under age success aswell. And how the F are you half Westmeath. Your either Kildare or Westmeath. Half Westmeath, what a load of bull
My heritage is Westmeath, a handy link for you http://www.hoganstand.com/Westmeath/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=30361 (http://www.hoganstand.com/Westmeath/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=30361)
Your underage success was not a patch on Westmeath or Laois in the period proceeding this golden age of Limerick football yet somehow this all transfers into Limerick been capable of winning a Leinster title not even including the culture of winning Leinster titles that is Dublin football. Meh! Enough conjecture the facts speak for themselves.
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Never mind that ejiot Dinny, anything he has to add was rendered insignificant when he said "No doubt in my mind we would have walked Leinster in 04". IMO, Limerick have serious issues when they are marginally ahead and matches are there to be won in the last ten minutes, they can't kill teams off.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 27, 2011, 12:12:35 AM
Quote from: The Burner on July 26, 2011, 11:55:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:48:43 PM
Quote from: The Burner on July 26, 2011, 11:40:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2011, 11:33:57 PM
Sorry but Laois in 2004 were one of the great under-achieving sides and a far better side with pedigree than Limerick. The Leinster winners that year were Westmeath who like Laois were fulfilling under-age promise, they probably celebrated that Leinster too much and mentally weren't right for Derry. I would bet on Dublin beating Limerick any time in the last 10 years too.
Newsflash Dinny Limerick beat Westmeath in u21 all ireland semi final before losing to a great tyrone side in the final. The basis of our 2004 team came from that u21 team. Now how does it feel to have your arse handed to you on a plate by a newbie?
Eh I'm half Westmeath so I should remind you that Westmeath won the All-Ireland the year before. You know I could say that Limerick have a tenancy to choke in finals even in the hurling since you brought it up so who is to say that they wouldn't have choked in Leinster final if they got that far.
No need to be hostile, just don't think Limerick over the last 10 years apart from the odd moral victory have been anything great, imho they would not have won a Leinster, Connacht or an Ulster title.
I was well aware that they won it the year before but you were the one who brought up underage success. i was merely pointing out that we had under age success aswell. And how the F are you half Westmeath. Your either Kildare or Westmeath. Half Westmeath, what a load of bull
My heritage is Westmeath, a handy link for you http://www.hoganstand.com/Westmeath/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=30361 (http://www.hoganstand.com/Westmeath/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=30361)
Your underage success was not a patch on Westmeath or Laois in the period proceeding this golden age of Limerick football yet somehow this all transfers into Limerick been capable of winning a Leinster title not even including the culture of winning Leinster titles that is Dublin football. Meh! Enough conjecture the facts speak for themselves.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eMG8ySb9Ml4/R8xoh11n5hI/AAAAAAAABq0/8qRAGRfabpo/s320/268693.jpg)
Dublin were going through a lean patch at that stage and I couldnt care if Joe Dolan was your father. My Mother is from Kerry but by christ Im not half a kerryman.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 27, 2011, 04:03:02 PM
Never mind that ejiot Dinny, anything he has to add was rendered insignificant when he said "No doubt in my mind we would have walked Leinster in 04". IMO, Limerick have serious issues when they are marginally ahead and matches are there to be won in the last ten minutes, they can't kill teams off.
starting your intoduction to the thread by insulting me! Very classy. My abiding memory of Westmeath football is of the u21 football semi final in Portlaoise. Possibly the worst losers I have ever come across, until Wexford this weekend anyway.
Another great day for Munster football. Sorry but can't stop laughing at Cork and all those here and in the media who built them up over the last 10 months.
Quote from: Kerry Mike on August 01, 2011, 12:23:28 AM
Another great day for Munster football. Sorry but can't stop laughing at Cork and all those here and in the media who built them up over the last 10 months.
Come on Kerry Mike, play nice. I just read through the boards.ie thread and the Cork folk were fierce cocky beforehand. Gave Mayo no chance, but they are quite contrite and generous this evening.