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Title: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: gallsman on September 28, 2010, 10:09:55 PM
Anyone watch this?

Nothing new revealed really but the interviews with people who've left were interesting.

I still fail to see any potential attraction in the thing.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 28, 2010, 10:15:53 PM
Watched it. If it is a religion I don't really understand its purpose. Seems like a business model to me.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Tyrones own on September 28, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Ah sure it's nothing short of a cult...ye know with brainwashed idiots in it's ranks similar to the following Obama had in getting elected,
only difference being of course is that with Scientology, unlike the other cnut and his policies, the only people getting cleaned out are the
Gobshites that sign up for it!
Ironic though that they are both under the guise of helping those less fortunate  ::)
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Zapatista on September 28, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 28, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Ah sure it's nothing short of a cult...ye know with brainwashed idiots in it's ranks similar to the following Obama had in getting elected,
only difference being of course is that with Scientology, unlike the other cnut and his policies, the only people getting cleaned out are the
Gobshites that sign up for it!
Ironic though that they are both under the guise of helping those less fortunate  ::)

Are the people at the top not as nrainwashed? I mean, do they rise up the ranks or are they shipped in straight to the top?
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on September 28, 2010, 11:48:32 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on September 28, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 28, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Ah sure it's nothing short of a cult...ye know with brainwashed idiots in it's ranks similar to the following Obama had in getting elected,
only difference being of course is that with Scientology, unlike the other cnut and his policies, the only people getting cleaned out are the
Gobshites that sign up for it!
Ironic though that they are both under the guise of helping those less fortunate  ::)

Are the people at the top not as nrainwashed? I mean, do they rise up the ranks or are they shipped in straight to the top?

It is capitalism at its purest. Get rich by taking money off (stupid) people for something (an idea in this case) in return. I'd have thought Tyrone's Own would appreciate that.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: laceer on September 29, 2010, 12:25:24 AM
Mad outfit altogether. Makes the catholic church look normal, and at the minute that's saying something.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: J70 on September 29, 2010, 01:10:05 AM
Quote from: laceer on September 29, 2010, 12:25:24 AM
Mad outfit altogether. Makes the catholic church look normal, and at the minute that's saying something.

Indeed!  :)
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
Quote from: muppet on September 28, 2010, 11:48:32 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on September 28, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 28, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Ah sure it's nothing short of a cult...ye know with brainwashed idiots in it's ranks similar to the following Obama had in getting elected,
only difference being of course is that with Scientology, unlike the other cnut and his policies, the only people getting cleaned out are the
Gobshites that sign up for it!
Ironic though that they are both under the guise of helping those less fortunate  ::)

Are the people at the top not as nrainwashed? I mean, do they rise up the ranks or are they shipped in straight to the top?

It is capitalism Brainwashing at its purest. Get rich by taking money off (stupid) people for something (an idea in this case) in return. I'd have thought Tyrone's Own would appreciate that.
Actually no... an upstanding citizen such as myself  :) would never appreciate nor condone the brainwashing of anyone for Financial political gain
Anyway, here ye go as you seem to be a tad confused as to it's actual meaning and not a Michael Moore type hashing of it  ::)
Capitalism;
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments
that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly
by competition in a free market
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on September 29, 2010, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
Quote from: muppet on September 28, 2010, 11:48:32 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on September 28, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 28, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Ah sure it's nothing short of a cult...ye know with brainwashed idiots in it's ranks similar to the following Obama had in getting elected,
only difference being of course is that with Scientology, unlike the other cnut and his policies, the only people getting cleaned out are the
Gobshites that sign up for it!
Ironic though that they are both under the guise of helping those less fortunate  ::)

Are the people at the top not as nrainwashed? I mean, do they rise up the ranks or are they shipped in straight to the top?

It is capitalism Brainwashing at its purest. Get rich by taking money off (stupid) people for something (an idea in this case) in return. I'd have thought Tyrone's Own would appreciate that.
Actually no... an upstanding citizen such as myself  :) would never appreciate nor condone the brainwashing of anyone for Financial political gain
Anyway, here ye go as you seem to be a tad confused as to it's actual meaning and not a Michael Moore type hashing of it  ::)
Capitalism;
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments
that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly
by competition in a free market


I can play that game too.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 29, 2010, 11:12:37 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
Capitalism;
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market... except when the market fcuks up big-time, then all debts arising shall be socialised (pro tem Socialism) until such times are profits emerge again, and Capitalism will once again be reinstated (with a straight face)

Fixed that for you TO  ;)
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 01:29:18 PM
That programme last night was sensationalist crap. Let them plough on, they're doing no harm to me. He was ridiculing their beliefs etc, but sure they're at least as believable as any religion (bit of wafer turning into human flesh, anyone??!!)

The only reason anyone gives a f**k is the same reason people buy Hello magazine - because they're interested in what famous people get up to. If there was no famous followers, there would be no interest, simple as.

And as for that idiot they interviewed who was trying to say she was forced to have abortions: she knew if pregnant she'd have to leave her officer position, she got pregnant twice, and instead of choosing to leave the officer position with her husband, she chose abortions then blames them?!! Disappointed the BBC gave this twat of a presenter the light of day to attempt to redeem himself after being made a fool of the last time he did a documentary on scientology.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on September 29, 2010, 01:38:36 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 01:29:18 PM
That programme last night was sensationalist crap. Let them plough on, they're doing no harm to me. He was ridiculing their beliefs etc, but sure they're at least as believable as any religion (bit of wafer turning into human flesh, anyone??!!)

The only reason anyone gives a f**k is the same reason people buy Hello magazine - because they're interested in what famous people get up to. If there was no famous followers, there would be no interest, simple as.

And as for that idiot they interviewed who was trying to say she was forced to have abortions: she knew if pregnant she'd have to leave her officer position, she got pregnant twice, and instead of choosing to leave the officer position with her husband, she chose abortions then blames them?!! Disappointed the BBC gave this t**t of a presenter the light of day to attempt to redeem himself after being made a fool of the last time he did a documentary on scientology.

You were doing ok until this.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 03:55:11 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
Quote from: muppet on September 28, 2010, 11:48:32 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on September 28, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 28, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Ah sure it's nothing short of a cult...ye know with brainwashed idiots in it's ranks similar to the following Obama had in getting elected,
only difference being of course is that with Scientology, unlike the other cnut and his policies, the only people getting cleaned out are the
Gobshites that sign up for it!
Ironic though that they are both under the guise of helping those less fortunate  ::)

Are the people at the top not as nrainwashed? I mean, do they rise up the ranks or are they shipped in straight to the top?

It is capitalism Brainwashing at its purest. Get rich by taking money off (stupid) people for something (an idea in this case) in return. I'd have thought Tyrone's Own would appreciate that.
Actually no... an upstanding citizen such as myself  :) would never appreciate nor condone the brainwashing of anyone for Financial political gain
Anyway, here ye go as you seem to be a tad confused as to it's actual meaning and not a Michael Moore type hashing of it  ::)
Capitalism;
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments
that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly
by competition in a free market



I can play that game too.
Its not enough for you to be dazzling us with your intellectual gift in constantly correcting me but you now see yourself fit to be correcting Merriam Webster in yet another failed attempt at point scoring .....pathetic actually muppet!
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 01:38:36 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 01:29:18 PM
That programme last night was sensationalist crap. Let them plough on, they're doing no harm to me. He was ridiculing their beliefs etc, but sure they're at least as believable as any religion (bit of wafer turning into human flesh, anyone??!!)

The only reason anyone gives a f**k is the same reason people buy Hello magazine - because they're interested in what famous people get up to. If there was no famous followers, there would be no interest, simple as.

And as for that idiot they interviewed who was trying to say she was forced to have abortions: she knew if pregnant she'd have to leave her officer position, she got pregnant twice, and instead of choosing to leave the officer position with her husband, she chose abortions then blames them?!! Disappointed the BBC gave this t**t of a presenter the light of day to attempt to redeem himself after being made a fool of the last time he did a documentary on scientology.

You were doing ok until this.

explain whats wrong with that muppet
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 04:03:42 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 29, 2010, 11:12:37 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
Capitalism;
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market... except when the market fcuks up big-time, then all debts arising shall be socialised (pro tem Socialism) until such times are profits emerge again, and Capitalism will once again be reinstated (with a straight face)

Fixed that for you TO  ;)
Boy you sure did Fear.....Michael Moore would be proud to see himself quoted so
Eloquently...well done!  :P
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on September 29, 2010, 04:07:57 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 01:38:36 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 01:29:18 PM
That programme last night was sensationalist crap. Let them plough on, they're doing no harm to me. He was ridiculing their beliefs etc, but sure they're at least as believable as any religion (bit of wafer turning into human flesh, anyone??!!)

The only reason anyone gives a f**k is the same reason people buy Hello magazine - because they're interested in what famous people get up to. If there was no famous followers, there would be no interest, simple as.

And as for that idiot they interviewed who was trying to say she was forced to have abortions: she knew if pregnant she'd have to leave her officer position, she got pregnant twice, and instead of choosing to leave the officer position with her husband, she chose abortions then blames them?!! Disappointed the BBC gave this t**t of a presenter the light of day to attempt to redeem himself after being made a fool of the last time he did a documentary on scientology.

You were doing ok until this.

explain whats wrong with that muppet

You think its ok for an employer to seek a staff members resignation on the grounds of pregnancy?
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on September 29, 2010, 04:13:25 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 03:55:11 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
Quote from: muppet on September 28, 2010, 11:48:32 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on September 28, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 28, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Ah sure it's nothing short of a cult...ye know with brainwashed idiots in it's ranks similar to the following Obama had in getting elected,
only difference being of course is that with Scientology, unlike the other cnut and his policies, the only people getting cleaned out are the
Gobshites that sign up for it!
Ironic though that they are both under the guise of helping those less fortunate  ::)

Are the people at the top not as nrainwashed? I mean, do they rise up the ranks or are they shipped in straight to the top?

It is capitalism Brainwashing at its purest. Get rich by taking money off (stupid) people for something (an idea in this case) in return. I'd have thought Tyrone's Own would appreciate that.
Actually no... an upstanding citizen such as myself  :) would never appreciate nor condone the brainwashing of anyone for Financial political gain
Anyway, here ye go as you seem to be a tad confused as to it's actual meaning and not a Michael Moore type hashing of it  ::)
Capitalism;
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments
that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly
by competition in a free market



I can play that game too.
Its not enough for you to be dazzling us with your intellectual gift in constantly correcting me but you now see yourself fit to be correcting Merriam Webster in yet another failed attempt at point scoring .....pathetic actually muppet!

The usual performance from TO. He corrects my post. That is apparently ok and to be applauded. I correct his post and but of course that is pathetic. Not only that though but turns out his post was a quote from someone who he didn't bother referencing.

Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 29, 2010, 05:28:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 04:03:42 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 29, 2010, 11:12:37 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
Capitalism;
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market... except when the market fcuks up big-time, then all debts arising shall be socialised (pro tem Socialism) until such times as profits emerge again, and Capitalism will once again be reinstated (with a straight face)

Fixed that for you TO  ;)
Boy you sure did Fear.....Michael Moore would be proud to see himself quoted so
Eloquently...well done!  :P

Thanks.

Though I'd prefer if you were to point up where I'm wrong, i.e., in the most recent cataclysm of Capitalist catastrophes, can you name me one institution in the capitalist sphere, which had gotten itself into terminal difficulties through their own insatiable and obscene greed and that is now a buoyant concern again, that did not need (and avail of) taxpayers' financial help to keep it alive?
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on September 29, 2010, 05:34:55 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 29, 2010, 05:28:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 04:03:42 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 29, 2010, 11:12:37 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
Capitalism;
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market... except when the market fcuks up big-time, then all debts arising shall be socialised (pro tem Socialism) until such times as profits emerge again, and Capitalism will once again be reinstated (with a straight face)

Fixed that for you TO  ;)
Boy you sure did Fear.....Michael Moore would be proud to see himself quoted so
Eloquently...well done!  :P

Thanks.

Though I'd prefer if you were to point up where I'm wrong, i.e., in the most recent cataclysm of Capitalist catastrophes, can you name me one institution in the capitalist sphere, which had gotten itself into terminal difficulties through their own insatiable and obscene greed and that is now a buoyant concern again, that did not need (and avail of) taxpayers' financial help to keep it alive?

Heads he wins, tails you lose.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 04:07:57 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 01:38:36 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 01:29:18 PM
That programme last night was sensationalist crap. Let them plough on, they're doing no harm to me. He was ridiculing their beliefs etc, but sure they're at least as believable as any religion (bit of wafer turning into human flesh, anyone??!!)

The only reason anyone gives a f**k is the same reason people buy Hello magazine - because they're interested in what famous people get up to. If there was no famous followers, there would be no interest, simple as.

And as for that idiot they interviewed who was trying to say she was forced to have abortions: she knew if pregnant she'd have to leave her officer position, she got pregnant twice, and instead of choosing to leave the officer position with her husband, she chose abortions then blames them?!! Disappointed the BBC gave this t**t of a presenter the light of day to attempt to redeem himself after being made a fool of the last time he did a documentary on scientology.

You were doing ok until this.

explain whats wrong with that muppet

You think its ok for an employer to seek a staff members resignation on the grounds of pregnancy?

Good man  ::)

Its not your usual profession - more like a monastic order - pracitcally no compensation for eg. When she joined, she knew she wouldn't be allowed to remain in this order once she fell pregnant. So when she did fall pregnant, she aborted, twice. Noone forced her to do this, she was free to leave at any point. And you dont think its rich for her to appear on some bollocks documentary claiming scientology forced her into abortion??!

Its similar to a nun falling pregnant, aborting, then leaving and complaing the church forced her into abortion because she couldnt let them know she'd been having sex.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 29, 2010, 05:48:59 PM
Do nuns really prefer the missionary position I wonder.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on September 29, 2010, 05:49:22 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 04:07:57 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 01:38:36 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 01:29:18 PM
That programme last night was sensationalist crap. Let them plough on, they're doing no harm to me. He was ridiculing their beliefs etc, but sure they're at least as believable as any religion (bit of wafer turning into human flesh, anyone??!!)

The only reason anyone gives a f**k is the same reason people buy Hello magazine - because they're interested in what famous people get up to. If there was no famous followers, there would be no interest, simple as.

And as for that idiot they interviewed who was trying to say she was forced to have abortions: she knew if pregnant she'd have to leave her officer position, she got pregnant twice, and instead of choosing to leave the officer position with her husband, she chose abortions then blames them?!! Disappointed the BBC gave this t**t of a presenter the light of day to attempt to redeem himself after being made a fool of the last time he did a documentary on scientology.

You were doing ok until this.

explain whats wrong with that muppet

You think its ok for an employer to seek a staff members resignation on the grounds of pregnancy?

Good man  ::)

Its not your usual profession - more like a monastic order - pracitcally no compensation for eg. When she joined, she knew she wouldn't be allowed to remain in this order once she fell pregnant. So when she did fall pregnant, she aborted, twice. Noone forced her to do this, she was free to leave at any point. And you dont think its rich for her to appear on some bollocks documentary claiming scientology forced her into abortion??!

Its similar to a nun falling pregnant, aborting, then leaving and complaing the church forced her into abortion because she couldnt let them know she'd been having sex.

You do realise that any church (despite what the Vatican thinks) is bound by the laws of the land. You can sign a contract agreeing to a breach of your civil rights (e.g. to your murder if you get pregnant) but it won't stand up in court will it?
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Eh??? Whats that got to do with anything?
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on September 29, 2010, 05:56:58 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Eh??? Whats that got to do with anything?

Even stupid people are allowed to have civil rights.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 06:00:06 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 04:13:25 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 03:55:11 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
Quote from: muppet on September 28, 2010, 11:48:32 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on September 28, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 28, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Ah sure it's nothing short of a cult...ye know with brainwashed idiots in it's ranks similar to the following Obama had in getting elected,
only difference being of course is that with Scientology, unlike the other cnut and his policies, the only people getting cleaned out are the
Gobshites that sign up for it!
Ironic though that they are both under the guise of helping those less fortunate  ::)

Are the people at the top not as nrainwashed? I mean, do they rise up the ranks or are they shipped in straight to the top?

It is capitalism Brainwashing at its purest. Get rich by taking money off (stupid) people for something (an idea in this case) in return. I'd have thought Tyrone's Own would appreciate that.
Actually no... an upstanding citizen such as myself  :) would never appreciate nor condone the brainwashing of anyone for Financial political gain
Anyway, here ye go as you seem to be a tad confused as to it's actual meaning and not a Michael Moore type hashing of it  ::)
Capitalism;
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments
that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly
by competition in a free market



I can play that game too.
Its not enough for you to be dazzling us with your intellectual gift in constantly correcting me but you now see yourself fit to be correcting Merriam Webster in yet another failed attempt at point scoring .....pathetic actually muppet!

The usual performance from TO. He corrects my post. That is apparently ok and to be applauded. I correct his post and but of course that is pathetic. Not only that though but turns out his post was a quote from someone who he didn't bother referencing.
Why would i need to reference the "definition" of capitalism...surely for
Such a smart lad and for someone who knocks capitalism on a regular basis you would
Know what it is you're knocking...climb down out of Moores hole ffs
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 06:00:42 PM
Muppet, you don't even seem to realise somewhere along the way you've switched sides  ::)

Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 29, 2010, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 05:56:58 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Eh??? Whats that got to do with anything?

Even stupid people are allowed to have civil rights.

Even ross4life?
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on September 29, 2010, 06:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 06:00:06 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 04:13:25 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 03:55:11 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
Quote from: muppet on September 28, 2010, 11:48:32 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on September 28, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 28, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Ah sure it's nothing short of a cult...ye know with brainwashed idiots in it's ranks similar to the following Obama had in getting elected,
only difference being of course is that with Scientology, unlike the other cnut and his policies, the only people getting cleaned out are the
Gobshites that sign up for it!
Ironic though that they are both under the guise of helping those less fortunate  ::)

Are the people at the top not as nrainwashed? I mean, do they rise up the ranks or are they shipped in straight to the top?

It is capitalism Brainwashing at its purest. Get rich by taking money off (stupid) people for something (an idea in this case) in return. I'd have thought Tyrone's Own would appreciate that.
Actually no... an upstanding citizen such as myself  :) would never appreciate nor condone the brainwashing of anyone for Financial political gain
Anyway, here ye go as you seem to be a tad confused as to it's actual meaning and not a Michael Moore type hashing of it  ::)
Capitalism;
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments
that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly
by competition in a free market



I can play that game too.
Its not enough for you to be dazzling us with your intellectual gift in constantly correcting me but you now see yourself fit to be correcting Merriam Webster in yet another failed attempt at point scoring .....pathetic actually muppet!

The usual performance from TO. He corrects my post. That is apparently ok and to be applauded. I correct his post and but of course that is pathetic. Not only that though but turns out his post was a quote from someone who he didn't bother referencing.
Why would i need to reference the "definition" of capitalism...surely for
Such a smart lad and for someone who knocks capitalism on a regular basis you would
Know what it is you're knocking...climb down out of Moores hole ffs

But you are the one who...............never mind. What is the point?

And as for Moore, he is irrelevant here in Ireland. Your insult means nothing.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on September 29, 2010, 06:05:53 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on September 29, 2010, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 05:56:58 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 29, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Eh??? Whats that got to do with anything?

Even stupid people are allowed to have civil rights.

Even ross4life?

No.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 07:56:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 06:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 06:00:06 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 04:13:25 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 03:55:11 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 29, 2010, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
Quote from: muppet on September 28, 2010, 11:48:32 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on September 28, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 28, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Ah sure it's nothing short of a cult...ye know with brainwashed idiots in it's ranks similar to the following Obama had in getting elected,
only difference being of course is that with Scientology, unlike the other cnut and his policies, the only people getting cleaned out are the
Gobshites that sign up for it!
Ironic though that they are both under the guise of helping those less fortunate  ::)

Are the people at the top not as nrainwashed? I mean, do they rise up the ranks or are they shipped in straight to the top?

It is capitalism Brainwashing at its purest. Get rich by taking money off (stupid) people for something (an idea in this case) in return. I'd have thought Tyrone's Own would appreciate that.
Actually no... an upstanding citizen such as myself  :) would never appreciate nor condone the brainwashing of anyone for Financial political gain
Anyway, here ye go as you seem to be a tad confused as to it's actual meaning and not a Michael Moore type hashing of it  ::)
Capitalism;
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments
that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly
by competition in a free market



I can play that game too.
Its not enough for you to be dazzling us with your intellectual gift in constantly correcting me but you now see yourself fit to be correcting Merriam Webster in yet another failed attempt at point scoring .....pathetic actually muppet!

The usual performance from TO. He corrects my post. That is apparently ok and to be applauded. I correct his post and but of course that is pathetic. Not only that though but turns out his post was a quote from someone who he didn't bother referencing.
Why would i need to reference the "definition" of capitalism...surely for
Such a smart lad and for someone who knocks capitalism on a regular basis you would
Know what it is you're knocking...climb down out of Moores hole ffs

But you are the one who...............never mind. What is the point?

And as for Moore, he is irrelevant here in Ireland. Your insult means nothing.
:D Ah we're back to the old exit strategy.. Never mind what exactly? yes I corrected
your post but you then went on to correct an actual Dictionary definition  :-[
So it's pretty clear here that you don't actually know what it is about capitalism you don't like
when you couldn't discern the actual true definition of the word when you read it!
QuoteAnd as for Moore, he is irrelevant here in Ireland. Your insult means nothing.
Is he really Muppet..cause as evidenced by your lack of understanding of the basic meaning of the word above, you're getting your ideals on the subject processed somewhere and Moore is the true useful idiot of Anti-Capitalism the world over after all :-\
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on September 29, 2010, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 07:56:04 PM
  :D Ah we're back to the old exit strategy.. Never mind what exactly? yes I corrected
your post but you then went on to correct an actual Dictionary definition  :-[
So it's pretty clear here that you don't actually know what it is about capitalism you don't like
when you couldn't discern the actual true definition of the word when you read it!
You corrected my post. Then you post, quoting someone without a link of course, to a thread which is about Scientology. Your simplistic definition of capitalism doesn't contradict my understanding of it in any way. The capitalist link was simple. People sell something (an idea in this case) to those stupid enough to part with their money to buy into it. That is capitalism. It is allowed in any western country but wouldn't be allowed in a Communist country.

Quote
Is he really Muppet..cause as evidenced by your lack of understanding of the basic meaning of the word above, you're getting your ideals on the subject processed somewhere and Moore is the true useful idiot of Anti-Capitalism the world over after all :-\

Moore's commentary and style is for the American market, his preference for style over substance means he is only a mild curiosity outside the States.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: tyssam5 on September 29, 2010, 10:27:54 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 28, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Ah sure it's nothing short of a cult...ye know with brainwashed idiots in it's ranks similar to the following Obama had in getting elected,
only difference being of course is that with Scientology, unlike the other cnut and his policies, the only people getting cleaned out are the
Gobshites that sign up for it!
Ironic though that they are both under the guise of helping those less fortunate  ::)

3rd post, thread derailed entirely, nicely done sir!
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 29, 2010, 10:37:42 PM
Quote from: tyssam5 on September 29, 2010, 10:27:54 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 28, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Ah sure it's nothing short of a cult...ye know with brainwashed idiots in it's ranks similar to the following Obama had in getting elected,
only difference being of course is that with Scientology, unlike the other cnut and his policies, the only people getting cleaned out are the
Gobshites that sign up for it!
Ironic though that they are both under the guise of helping those less fortunate  ::)

3rd post, thread derailed entirely, nicely done sir!
TO is a senior Scientologist.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: screenexile on September 29, 2010, 10:46:32 PM
Aye God there's nothing worse than looking on a thread to discuss something only for it to be taken over by a nonsense slagging match. . . go home ladies!

Have to say Scientology is something that fascinates me. On the outside it does seem to do a lot of good with education programmes it's charity work etc. I also don't doubt that there are some decent people involved in the organisation. However watching the 2 Panorama documentaries would seem to suggest that the leadership is very sinister and that the core of the organisation would seem to be rotten.

My honest opinion would be that Hubbard was a con man who preyed upon vulnerable people and made a lot of money out of them. Others have taken over his work and are beginning to get found out which is why they resort to following people who try and investigate the Church. I hope it isn't around too much longer but it seems like it won't go away!
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Tyrones own on September 29, 2010, 11:09:03 PM
Quote from: tyssam5 on September 29, 2010, 10:27:54 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 28, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Ah sure it's nothing short of a cult...ye know with brainwashed idiots in it's ranks similar to the following Obama had in getting elected,
only difference being of course is that with Scientology, unlike the other cnut and his policies, the only people getting cleaned out are the
Gobshites that sign up for it!
Ironic though that they are both under the guise of helping those less fortunate  ::)

3rd post, thread derailed entirely, nicely done sir!
Maybe but you're 28 posts late in bringing on the drama... :'( Not to worry...I just checked, the sky is still up there ::)
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Tyrones own on September 30, 2010, 01:22:15 AM
Posted by: muppet
QuoteThen you post, quoting someone without a link of course,
QuoteYour simplistic definition of capitalism doesn't contradict my understanding of it in any way
That would be Merriam-Webster and should I apologize if the dictionary definition is too simplistic for you... intellectually
speaking of course ::) :D
QuoteThe capitalist link was simple. People sell something (an idea in this case) to those stupid enough to part with their money to buy into it. That is capitalism
Eh Ok though it is a tad simplistic  ;) ... why do you say it like it's a bad thing, should the government (cause that's what's happening here under Obama) step in then and attempt to idiot proof everything
to protect the few stupid ones..where does it stop ???
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on September 30, 2010, 03:55:08 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on September 30, 2010, 01:22:15 AM
Posted by: muppet
QuoteThen you post, quoting someone without a link of course,
QuoteYour simplistic definition of capitalism doesn't contradict my understanding of it in any way
That would be Merriam-Webster and should I apologize if the dictionary definition is too simplistic for you... intellectually
speaking of course ::) :D
QuoteThe capitalist link was simple. People sell something (an idea in this case) to those stupid enough to part with their money to buy into it. That is capitalism
Eh Ok though it is a tad simplistic  ;) ... why do you say it like it's a bad thing, should the government (cause that's what's happening here under Obama) step in then and attempt to idiot proof everything
to protect the few stupid ones..where does it stop ???

You use of the dictionary was simplistic because you didn't bother with context. Nowhere did I suggest that Obama should step in, on the contrary my original point was that you be against intervention of such a capitalist structure and you have proven that nicely in your post.

As for where does it stop, sin sceal eile.
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 30, 2010, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: screenexile on September 29, 2010, 10:46:32 PM
Aye God there's nothing worse than looking on a thread to discuss something only for it to be taken over by a nonsense slagging match. . . go home ladies!

Have to say Scientology is something that fascinates me. On the outside it does seem to do a lot of good with education programmes it's charity work etc. I also don't doubt that there are some decent people involved in the organisation. However watching the 2 Panorama documentaries would seem to suggest that the leadership is very sinister and that the core of the organisation would seem to be rotten.

My honest opinion would be that Hubbard was a con man who preyed upon vulnerable people and made a lot of money out of them. Others have taken over his work and are beginning to get found out which is why they resort to following people who try and investigate the Church. I hope it isn't around too much longer but it seems like it won't go away!


indeed. this thread disappoints;
watched it myself, thought of them as a sinister enough looking bunch, what with all them cameras pointing everywhere...also thought of it as sounding like a bit of a money racket (to say the least)...but then again all religious organisations could be guilty of this to an extent.
Anytime i threaten to take religion too seriously im reminded of a comedians quote one time, "its like were arguing over who has the best imaginary friend".....

apoloies TO and muppett, back to yous again....
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on September 30, 2010, 04:19:29 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 30, 2010, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: screenexile on September 29, 2010, 10:46:32 PM
Aye God there's nothing worse than looking on a thread to discuss something only for it to be taken over by a nonsense slagging match. . . go home ladies!

Have to say Scientology is something that fascinates me. On the outside it does seem to do a lot of good with education programmes it's charity work etc. I also don't doubt that there are some decent people involved in the organisation. However watching the 2 Panorama documentaries would seem to suggest that the leadership is very sinister and that the core of the organisation would seem to be rotten.

My honest opinion would be that Hubbard was a con man who preyed upon vulnerable people and made a lot of money out of them. Others have taken over his work and are beginning to get found out which is why they resort to following people who try and investigate the Church. I hope it isn't around too much longer but it seems like it won't go away!


indeed. this thread disappoints;
watched it myself, thought of them as a sinister enough looking bunch, what with all them cameras pointing everywhere...also thought of it as sounding like a bit of a money racket (to say the least)...but then again all religious organisations could be guilty of this to an extent.
Anytime i threaten to take religion too seriously im reminded of a comedians quote one time, "its like were arguing over who has the best imaginary friend".....

apoloies TO and muppett, back to yous again....

I'm off to celebrate on the new Mayo manager thread............
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: muppet on January 03, 2012, 01:21:37 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/03/scientologist-email-debbie-cook-miscavige (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/03/scientologist-email-debbie-cook-miscavige)

A rare expression of internal dissent has broken out in the world of Scientology, with one of its most senior figures sending a mass email to 12,000 fellow members complaining that the self-styled church has become obsessed with fundraising and has amassed unused reserves of over $1bn (£640m).
Title: Re: Panorama: Scientology
Post by: Puckoon on January 03, 2012, 04:13:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0)

Thought this might have been posted on here before. Mr Cruise speaks Scientology.