I see the fixtures for this years MacRory cup have been put on the Ulster Colleges website. Two tough groups with interesting opening games. Omagh/Magherafelt and Colmans/Armagh look to be two clinkers. Good to see Lurgan stepping up and giving it a go. Should be an interesting competition.
Is it just me or is the competition starting very early and finishing well before Christmas? I always thought that the MacRory didn't start until after Halloween.
BT MacRory Cup
League Tables - 2010-11
Section A
St. Michael's Grammar, Lurgan
St. Macartan's, Monaghan
Omagh CBS, Omagh
St. Mary's Grammar, Magherafelt
St. Patrick's College, Cavan
St. Patrick's Grammar, Dungannon
Section B
St. Colman's College, Newry
St. Patrick's Grammar, Armagh
St. Patrick's College, Maghera
St. Michael's College, Enniskillen
Abbey CBS Grammar, Newry
Sat 16th Oct 2010
Omagh v St Mary's M'felt
Lurgan v St Macartans
Cavan v Dungannon
St Colman's v Armagh
Maghera v Enniskillen
Sat 23rd Oct 2010
St Macartans v Cavan
St Mary's M'felt v Dungannon
Lurgan v Omagh
St Colman's v Maghera
Enniskillen v Abbey
Sat 6th Nov 2010
Omagh v Cavan
St Macartans v Dungannon
Lurgan v St Mary's M'felt
St Colman's v Enniskillen
Armagh v Abbey
Sat 13th Nov 2010
St Macartans v St Mary's M'felt
Lurgan v Cavan
St Colman's v Abbey
Omagh v Dungannon
Armagh v Maghera
Sat 20th Nov 2010
St Macartans v Omagh
St Mary's M'felt v Cavan
Lurgan v Dungannon
Maghera v Abbey
Armagh v Enniskillen
5th in Group A v 4th in Group B
academy would have to be favourites for this.
On the basis of Omagh winning the Rannafast and having quite a few players back from last year, I'd say that they are in prime position.
Games used to start first saturday in November.
Taken from another thread:
Quote from: Take Your Points on August 25, 2010, 11:10:36 PM
Quote from: clarshack on August 25, 2010, 11:46:52 AM
how many of these will be playing macrory in 2010/2011?
14. John McCullagh – An Caisleán Glas
15. Ronan Ó Néill -An Omaigh
22. Cahir McCullagh – An Caisleán Glas
These lads will be available but playing will be dependent on the choice of the 2010-11 management team of Kieran Donnelly and Finnian Moriarty.
I think there were seven or eight of the present Tyrone minor team who are/were students at Omagh CBS - thats some representation. What has happened to last years management team?
Quote from: duvet dave on August 20, 2010, 07:53:51 PM
On the basis of Omagh winning the Rannafast and having quite a few players back from last year, I'd say that they are in prime position.
academy won the rannafast in 2008/2009. beat st. pius in the final.
Dungannon have Shea McGarrity, Eunan Deeney, Harry Og Conlon, Ryan Devlin, Liam Gervin and Kiefer Morgan all Tyrone minors this year still available. (If not more- I think I've missed another couple). Will take some stopping.
Mark Mc Reynolds and Matthew Cardberry also
Fancy Omagh in 2010/2011 for silverware again
Colaisti Inis Eoghain Launched
A new era in Inishowen schools football will begin when Coláistí Inis Eoghain play their first match in the Ranafast Cup in Ulster Colleges football against St Michael's of Enniskillen in Burt on Friday afternoon 17th September (throw-in 3.15pm).
Established under the auspices of the Inishowen GAA Board and the five local secondary schools – Scoil Mhuire Buncrana, Crana College Buncrana, Carndonagh Community School, Moville Community College and Colaiste Chineál Eoghain Buncranncha – Coláistí Inis Eoghain will play in the Rannafast Cup, the Division 1 competition for boys aged under 16 and a half. Later in the year a second team will participate in the under 14 and a half, Corn na nÓg Cup which gets under way at the start of November.
Managed by Donegal's 2006 Ulster minor championship winning manager Sean Clerkin, the Rannafast Cup team, with a squad of twenty four have been training since the middle of July and all are itching for the throw in. Monaghan native Clerkin, who is assisted by Sean Noonan from Buncrana, Robert Farren from the Malin club and Laurence Hegarty also from Buncrana, told the squad at an official launch night in Carndonagh GAA club, that the opportunity to play in Ulster Colleges football, against some of the top schools in the Province will help them prepare to make the breakthrough into Donegal squads at U16, minor, U21 and ultimately senior level.
Trials are ongoing for the Corn na nÓg squad, which has over forty players competing for places on a side that will be managed by Moville Community College teacher Sean O'Hare, an Armagh native who knows a bit about the level of competition they can expect to meet, and he will be assisted by Jimmy Hegarty from Moville, Damian Dowds of Burt and Michael McMenamin from Muff.
"This high level of competition will present young Inishowen players with a great opportunity to build on the coaching they have received at primary schools, which has been ongoing in the area since 2004 and the success they have enjoyed at club level in recent years," Inishowen GAA Board Chairman Gerard Callaghan said at the official launch, where Gerry Doherty, from main sponsors SuperValu Carndonagh, presented two new kits to the teams.
"Everyone is thrilled at the huge investment Supervalu Carndonagh have given to the initiative, especially in this difficult economic climate" Callaghan continued. "Our thanks go to Gerry Doherty and we hope Supervalu Carndonagh will get good value from their association with Coláistí Inis Eoghain in the weeks and months ahead."
Mr Callaghan also thanked Liam Grimley of Healthwise Pharmacies Buncrana and Moville for sponsoring two superb medical kits, which will be of great benefit to the players and their mentors during games and training.
The Rannafast Cup starts with a match against St Michael's Enniskillen who have kindly agreed to travel to Burt for the opening game, and they will then play St Eunan's College on Tuesday 28th September (Venue TBC), followed by the visit to The Scarvey Buncrana, on Thursday 30th September, of defending champions Omagh CBS, who are managed by former Tyrone star Ciaran McBride. Everyone at Colaisti Inis Eoghain are thrilled that Omagh too have agreed to play the game at an Inishowen venue under lights, which should attract a bumper crowd to the Inishowen venue.
The final game in the group for the newcomers will be against St Pats Keady from Armagh at the beginning of October. Following the group stages the top two teams will qualify from Group A, for the knock out stages, which continue into November with the final scheduled for Saturday 13th November.
The Corn na nÓg, meanwhile starts in November with the first game against the mighty St Pats Maghera in the week commencing Monday 8th November followed by games against St Mary's Magherafelt, St Pats Armagh and finishing off with a derby game against St Eunans Letterkenny.
Colaisti Inis Eoghain were further boosted in the run up to their opening game, when it was announced that the Inishowen GAA Board were successful in their recent application for a Texaco Sports Bursary, which will help to fund the joint venture between the five secondary school and the seven clubs in the peninsula. The award will be presented at a function in Dublin at the end of September.
MacRory cup underway once again.
No luck to Lurgan!!!
BT MacRory Cup : St Macartan's Monaghan 2-12 St Michael's Lurgan 2-11.
So near, yet so far for debutants St Michael's Lurgan in the BT MacRory Cup yesterday.
A goal from Feargal Moore 5 minutes from time put them 2-11 to 1-11 ahead. But Ryan McGuigan pointed a free and, as injury time beckoned, floated a 45 into the Lurgan goal area from where sub Keelin Clerkin punched a goal for a single point victory, 2-12 to 2-11.
This was an excellent opening game for the competition, Conleth McAlinden shooting a first half goal to put Lurgan in at the break 1-5 to 0-7 ahead.
Shane Carey's goal edged Monaghan ahead early in the second half, but 4 points from Conor Lavery tied the game before the late drama left Lurgan wondering what might have been.
Monaghan will face St Patrick's Cavan in the middle of next week, while Lurgan will try their luck against Omagh CBS before the Halloween break.
Meanwhile there was a shock in the BT Casement Cup hurling quarter-finals when St Patrick's Academy produced a superb second half to knock out holders St Patrick's Armagh 0-20 to 3-9.
Last season's beaten finalists St Killian's Garron Tower though were comfortable winners over St Colman's Newry.
St Macartan's : Shane Carey 1-0, Keelin Clerkin 1-0, Ryan McGuigan 0-5, Sean McKenna 0-3, Christopher McKenna 0-2, Liam Hahassey 0-1, Fergal McGeough 0-1.
St Michael's Lurgan : Conleth McAlinden 1-0, Fergal Moore 1-0, Conor Lavery 0-5, Ciaran Conway 0-2, Niall Patterson 0-2, Andrew Nugent 0-1, Gavin McCormick 0-1.
Was that the only match yesterday?
How did the Mageean Cup semi finals go today?
St Mary's CBS 2-11 Ballycastle 2-09
Maghera 2-11 Downpatrick 2-0
Ladbrokes have priced the MacRory. Fancy prices on the outsiders!!
St Patricks Dungannon 2/1
Omagh CBS 11/4
St Colmans Newry 11/4
St Patricks Maghera 6/1
Abbey CBS Newry 7/1
St Michaels Enniskillen 10/1
St Patricks Armagh 20/1
St Macartans Monaghan 80/1
St Patricks Cavan 100/1
St Marys Magherafelt 100/1
St Michaels Lurgan 200/1
Quote from: An Laoch on October 15, 2010, 04:10:04 PM
Ladbrokes have priced the MacRory. Fancy prices on the outsiders!!
St Patricks Dungannon 2/1
Omagh CBS 11/4
St Colmans Newry 11/4
St Patricks Maghera 6/1
Abbey CBS Newry 7/1
St Michaels Enniskillen 10/1
St Patricks Armagh 20/1
St Macartans Monaghan 80/1
St Patricks Cavan 100/1
St Marys Magherafelt 100/1
St Michaels Lurgan 200/1
Obviously one group is much stronger than the other. Are all games being played tomorrow?
St Patricks Dungannon 2/1
Omagh CBS 11/4
St Colmans Newry 11/4
St Patricks Maghera 6/1
Abbey CBS Newry 7/1
St Michaels Enniskillen 10/1
St Patricks Armagh 20/1
St Macartans Monaghan 80/1
St Patricks Cavan 100/1
St Marys Magherafelt 100/1
St Michaels Lurgan 200/1
Section A in blue
Section B in red
Taken from Ulster Colleges website:
Champions off to good start
BT MacRory Cup : St Colman's Newry 2-8 St Patrick's Armagh 2-6
MacRory and Hogan Cup champions St Colman's Newry got this year's MacRory Cup campaign off to a positive start with a 2-8 to 2-6 victory over St Patrick's Armagh in Pairc Esler yesterday afternoon.
A penalty goal after 20 minutes from Paul McGeown pulled back St Colman's early advantage on the score-board and the teams were level 0-6 to 1-3 at the break.
However two goals midway through the second half, the first from Jerome Johnstone and the second from Keelin Haughey, looked like giving the champions the space to push on for a comfortable victory.
Armagh stood up to the challenge though and McGeown's second goal in the 55th minute narrowed the difference to a single point.
But Jerome Johnstone steadied the ship for St Colman's with a late score.
The next action is on Friday (3pm) in Threemilehouse between St Macartan's and Cavan while Killeshil is the venue on Saturday (11am) for Enniskillen and Abbey CBS.
St Colman's : Jerome Johnstone 1-1, Keelin Haughey 1-0, Ryan Johnstone 0-3, Caolan Mooney 0-2, Conor Gough 0-1.
St Patrick's : Paul McGeown 2-1, Simon McCoy 0-2, Ciaran McKeever 0-1, Conor McNally 0-1, Matthew Jones 0-1.
I see Dom has had a good recruitment drive over the summer.
Even got one of our Cavan neighbours to join
Maghera won the Mageean Cup tonight, St Killians Garron Tower won the Casement Cup, at Casement.
Quote from: Any craic on October 22, 2010, 10:30:52 PM
Maghera won the Mageean Cup tonight, St Killians Garron Tower won the Casement Cup, at Casement.
Any reports?
Maghera won the McNamee as well. Here's a wee bit of video - http://vimeo.com/16104907 (http://vimeo.com/16104907)
Maghera winning would be a small upset i suppose as they reckoned it was between Cross and Passion and St Marys who met in the semi.
Paul Hughes has now won a Macrory and a Mageean as manager of Maghera!
Quote from: paco on October 22, 2010, 11:22:19 PM
Paul Hughes has now won a Macrory and a Mageean as manager of Maghera!
When was he a manager/coach of a winning MacRory team? Yes, he was part of many management teams with McNicholl and McGuckin but he was never outright manager/coach.
Anyhow, well done to St Pats on winning the Mageean and McNamee last evening.
Taken from Ulster Colleges website:
Macartan's win again in MacRory
BT MacRory Cup : St Macartan's Monaghan 2-15 St Patrick's Cavan 1-9.
St Macartan's Monaghan picked up their second brace of points in the BT MacRory Cup, beating St Patrick's Cavan at Threemilehouse yesterday.
The Sem went 2-3 to 0-3 up inside the opening 10 minutes with goals from Mel Boyce and Christopher McKenna.
However Dara McVitty and Stephen Brady kept St Patrick's in touch and they turned around still those two goals in arrears 2-6 to 1-6.
At the start of the second half Monaghan shot seven wides in succession and were then knocked back by a goal from Andrew Graham.
However they recovered their composure and fired over some fine points in the last quarter to come through 2-15 to 1-9
St Macartan's : Mel Boyce 1-1, Christopher McKenna 1-0, Shane Carey 0-2, Ryan McGuigan 0-2, Liam Hahassey 0-2, Fergal McGeough 0-2, Padraig McKenna 0-2, Sean McKenna 0-1, James McAllister 0-1.
St Patrick's Cavan : Andrew Graham 1-1, Dara McVitty, 0-3, Stephen Brady 0-3, Paul Sweeney 0-1, Shane Kelly 0-1.
St Michael's beat the abbey well this morning
Enniskillen in Brilliant Form
Sat 23rd Oct 2010
BT MacRory Cup : St Michael's Enniskillen 3-21 Abbey 1-7
St Michael's Enniskillen laid down a strong marker for this year's BT MacRory Cup with a comprehensive defeat of Abbey CBS in Killeshil.
They dominated the first half with Sean Quigley and Richard Donnelly in top form and had the game in the bag at half time with a lead of 2-11 to 0-1 in response from Rory Keenan.
Quigley and John Joe Strain were the goal-scorers and Dominic Corrigan took the opportunity to blood a few substitutes in the second half.
It made for a more competitive game with Enniskillen's Kane Connor and Abbey's Shea Millar swapping goals.
However with 6 points each from Quigley, Eddie Courtney and Richard Donnelly, Enniskillen look capable of mounting a serious challenge on the recognised top four of Maghera, Dungannon, Omagh and holders St Colman's.
Dungannon, clear winners over Cavan in their opening game, are back in action on Monday when they take on St Mary's Magherafelt at MUSA (4pm).
St Michael's : Sean Quigley 1-6, John Joe Strain 1-1, Kane Connor 1-0, Eddie Courtney 0-6, Richard Donnelly 0-6, Aidan Breen 0-1, Nevin O'Donnell 0-1.
Abbey : Shea Millar 1-0, Rory Keenan 0-3, Daragh McAuley 0-2, Gerard McGovern 0-1, James Delahunt 0-1.
By all accounts Dom Corrigan has 'assembled' a very strong side this year and won't be far away at the end of the day. I believe it was the same old Abbey tactics, annoy the hell out of the man off the ball and hope that this will be enough to win the game. Enniskillen sound very strong.
Taken from Ulster Colleges website:
Academy take 2 more MacRory points
BT MacRory Cup : St Patrick's Dungannon 3-14 St Mary's Magherafelt 1-14
St Patrick's Academy made it two wins from two starts yesterday when three second half goals nailed the points against St Mary's Magherafelt in an entertaining fixture in MUSA.
Conor McCann and Nathan Rocks more than held their own in the Magherafelt midfield and that gave their forward line a good supply with Aaron Devlin on 1-5 from play giving the Academy defence plenty of problems.
However there was still enough quality at the other end of the field to do the business for the Tyrone side, especially when Harry og Conlon came in as a sub at the start of the second half.
Scores from Devlin and Conor Kearns had levelled the match after the Academy had led 0-10 to 0-7 at the break.
Harry og then buried two goals in quick succession, before retiring to the bench with what looks like a recurrence of a hamstring problem.
Aaron Devlin reduced the arrears to a goal when he hit the net in the 48th minute, but a long ball from Kiefer Morgan fell loose in the Magherafelt goal area and Aidan McGarrity was on hand to stab it across the line and secure the points for the Academy.
St Mary's are back in action on Thursday, taking on Omagh CBS at Kildress (11am), while St Patrick's Maghera take their bow on Friday with a tie against holders St Colman's Newry at Derrytresk (11am).
St Patrick's Dungannon : Harry og Conlon 2-0, Aidan McGarrity 1-0, Liam Gervin 0-5, 0-2 frees, Ryan Devlin 0-3, Kiefer Morgan 0-2, Stefan lavery 0-2, Matthew Carbery 0-1 free, Dwayne Quinn 0-1.
St Mary's Magherafelt : Aaron Devlin 1-5, Conor Kearns 0-7, 0-6 frees, Niall Higgins 0-1, Antoin McElhome 0-1.
Dungannon putting up some big scores at present but a good showing from Magherafelt to run them close. All to play for.
Taken from Ulster Colleges website:
St Michael's Enniskillen 1-8 St Colman's Newry 1-7
St Michael's Enniskillen clinched a quarter-final spot in the BT MacRory Cup on Saturday with this narrow league victory over champions St Colman's Newry in Edendork.
However, the game could easily have finished level, but Caolan Mooney screwed a late free just wide of the mark.
Otherwise Mooney had a fine game as did Conor Gough and the defence, and the Violet Hill boys will still be a big force after Christmas
Dominic Corrigan brought in Tiarnan Daly and Richard Hyde from the subs' bench to start as the midfield pairing and both more than equipped themselves, freeing up Richard Donnelly to play at full-forward in the absence of Sean Quigley who had to play for his club Roslea in the Fermanagh Division 1 semi-final later in the afternoon.
Corrigan was more than pleased with the result achieved.
"We tried Tiarnan and Richard in the second half of the midweek match with Maghera and were confident that they could do well."
"It was a very tight game and we had to dig out a result for ourselves. St Colman's could easily have won though. But from our point of view, there would have been a lot of pluses even if we had lost by a point or two."
Corrigan pointed to a period close to the break as the key time in the game for St Michael's.
They had been playing with the breeze at their backs but had just gone 1-4 to 0-3 down after Caolan Mooney had grabbed a goal for St Colman's, bringing his personal tally to 1-3 after 20 minutes.
Enniskillen however dug in and Aidan Breen and Richard Donnelly combined to release Mark Blake who rounded his marker and hit the roof of the net from 15 metres.
Points from Ruairi Corrigan and Donnelly saw Enniskillen turn around a point up, 1-5 to 1-4.
St Colman's hit back at the start of the second half with points from Tomas Mulholland and Conor Gough, but Enniskillen responded with two points from Donnelly and another from Mark Blake.
Despite conceding another single to Gough, Enniskillen's defence held firm and breathed a collective sigh of relief when the Mooney late free went, for them, the right side of the upright.
St Colman's have the Newry derby ahead of them next weekend, while Enniskillen's next match (v St Patrick's Armagh) isn't until 20th November.
St Michael's : B McAleer, N Shannon, R Porteus, K Connor, A Breen 0-1, L Leonard, R Brennan, T Daly, R Hyde, S Lynch, R Corrigan 0-1, B McCann, M Blake 1-2, R Donnelly 0-3, 0-2 frees, E Courtney.
Subs : B Owens for B McCann, J Duffy for M Blake.
St Colman's : M McNeill, D Brannigan, N Donnelly, C Doyle, R Mussen, E Magee, K Haughey, C Gough 0-2, P Matthews, T Mulholland 0-1, P Casey, C Mooney 1-3, 0-2 frees, T McGreevy 0-1, J Johnstone, S McArdle.
Subs : P Morgan for S McArdle.
Referee; M McErlean (Derry)
Fine result for St Michael's. Seem to be motoring well cosidering there were missing 3 of there strongest players
Ft
Omagh CBS 0-10
Dungannon 2-18
Injury worry as John McCullagh was substituted 20 min into the second half.
http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/news/academy-remain-unbeaten-and-impressive/
Hard luck to the Abbey in the Rannafast Final last night. St pats maghera had some team. Abbey have a great team and wont be long till we see them in the another final. Jut wasnt the Abbey's night on the night. Great spectacle for a neutral under lights in the great Healy Park
Abbey 0.7
Maghera 2.8
Whats the craic with this combined Donegal team? Seems a bit unfair.
Omagh CBS defeated St Macartans in the MacRory cup today at Pearse OgArmagh.
How's st Pats, Armagh doing this year ?
1 win from 3 last i heard - have the group matches not been completed yet ?
Quote from: ardchieftain on November 20, 2010, 06:23:50 PM
How's st Pats, Armagh doing this year ?
1 win from 3 last i heard - have the group matches not been completed yet ?
Group B matches have been completed. The grammer won 2, lost 2 and just qualified for the quarters.
Its the managers pergogative to do what he likes with his team - including trying out new things in games of no real importance to his team. Its not his fault other teams have gotten themselves in the situation of relying on other results going for them.
Surely it should be St Michaels complaining as the Armagh school have shown blatant disregard for the rules by fielding the Armagh senior centre back who also bagged a goal. Outrageous stuff.
Quote from: omagh_gael on November 23, 2010, 01:29:33 PM
Surely it should be St Michaels complaining as the Armagh school have shown blatant disregard for the rules by fielding the Armagh senior centre back who also bagged a goal. Outrageous stuff.
:D now come on, when has McKeever ever scored for Armagh!!!
When are the Macrory play offs scheduled for?
New venue
MacRory Playoff (Tues 30th Nov - 5.30 @ Lavey)
St Mary's Magherafelt v St Patrick's Maghera
St Michael's Lurgan and Abbey game was abondoned in extra time tonight. Exciting game considering the driving snow, Abbey lead for most of the game but in the last few mins St Michael's scored a point and a goal to go three up, only for Abbey to grab a goal in the last 30 seconds. Abbey scored a free in extra time to lead but by that stage even Pat realised that the snow was too heavy...of course it stopped as soon as it was called off lol. Score was 1-8 to 2-4 I think.
Colleges all stars out today?
St Joseph's, Donaghmore got one Colleges All Star
John Mc Cullagh and RyanMayse Omagh CBS have been selected on the Ulster Colleges 15.
Why is there an embargo?
Quote from: Disillusioned on December 17, 2010, 06:04:48 PM
Good to see no one is spoiling the Ulster Colleges launch of their All Stars and MacRory Cup draw on Monday then.
If the boys themselves are telling people via social media and word of mouth there is no difference here!
Damian Casey from Dungannon Academy got a Hurling All Star, is he the first Tyrone man to get an Ulster Colleges Hurling All Star
Quote from: hardstation on December 17, 2010, 08:52:30 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on December 17, 2010, 08:31:48 PM
Damian Casey from Dungannon Academy got a Hurling All Star, is he the first Tyrone man to get an Ulster Colleges Hurling All Star
Another lad from the Academy got one a couple of years ago if I remember correctly.
You're right HS, Naomh Colmcille man if my memory serves. Omagh have got 2 hurling all stars, both of them back in the early 90s I think
Quote from: tyrone86 on December 17, 2010, 08:59:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 17, 2010, 08:52:30 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on December 17, 2010, 08:31:48 PM
Damian Casey from Dungannon Academy got a Hurling All Star, is he the first Tyrone man to get an Ulster Colleges Hurling All Star
Another lad from the Academy got one a couple of years ago if I remember correctly.
You're right HS, Naomh Colmcille man if my memory serves. Omagh have got 2 hurling all stars, both of them back in the early 90s I think
Sorry, I was asking Take Your Points how many football All Stars Omagh CBS got this year. John Mc Cullagh was one, I expect Ronan O' Neill got one as well.
you could be the best colleges player in the last 50 years but if you are injured for the trials
you dont get an all star - a joke and farce of a system. if memory serves me correct raymond mulgrew single handedly dragged the academy to a hogan cup final in 2004 yet didnt get an allstar. these awards have no credibilty whatsoever until they are done right.
Quote from: hardstation on December 17, 2010, 09:35:17 PM
Quote from: clarshack on December 17, 2010, 09:27:55 PM
you could be the best colleges player in the last 50 years but if you are injured for the trials
you dont get an all star - a joke and farce of a system. if memory serves me correct raymond mulgrew single handedly dragged the academy to a hogan cup final in 2004 yet didnt get an allstar. these awards have no credibilty whatsoever until they are done right.
Your memory isn't great. The Academy had some cracking players that year. Ronan McGurk, Damien McCaul, Marty Murray, Shane O'Hagan, Cathal O'Nell, James Grimley and Paul Forker all had as much of a hand in it.
That was a team that had James Lavery and Brendan Donaghy (albeit he'd suffered a bad injury at the start of the year) on the bench. Ciaran Donnelly captained that team if I remember rightly. Not a bad player either.
aye but mulgrew was the main man and didnt get an allstar?
imagine peter canavan not getting an all-star in 1995.
Quote from: clarshack on December 17, 2010, 09:47:27 PM
aye but mulgrew was the main man and didnt get an allstar?
imagine peter canavan not getting an all-star in 1995.
Aye, but Peter was 24 by then and St. Ciaran's didn't play Ulster Colleges.
Quote from: Man Marker on December 17, 2010, 08:31:48 PM
Damian Casey from Dungannon Academy got a Hurling All Star, is he the first Tyrone man to get an Ulster Colleges Hurling All Star
Paul Sweeney (Carrickmore) got one in 1988, the first year of the awards. So the answer to your question is clearly No.
It would be interesting to find out how many MacRory team captains in recent years were awarded All Stars as well.
CBS got St Mary's Magherafelt in the quarter final draw
Donegal's newest All Star beats snow to claim award...
http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/watch/Snow-Problem-for-Donegal-All-Star-260//
BT MacRory Cup quarter-finals
Saturday 4 February
St Macartan's Monaghan v St Michael's Enniskillen
Friday 10 and Saturday 11 February
St Mary's Magherafelt v Omagh CBS
St Colman's Newry v Abbey CBS or St Michael's Lurgan
St Patrick's Dungannon v St Pat's Armagh
Watch the draw as it was made today at BT..
http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/watch/BT-MacRory-Cup-Quarter-final-Draw-for-2011-261//
I see that some things never change when it comes to the All stars.
Unreal
Fair play to St Joseph's Donaghmore on a first Football All Star for a lad from Eglish who is interviewed here, and to schools in Down and Derry who have won their first hurling All Stars. Again, there are short interview clips and shots from the presentation here:- www.jeromequinnmedia.com (http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com)
I looked for the football allstars online and couldn't find them... anyone got a link?
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/mooneyrsquos-eyes-on-new-career-in-aussie-rules-15037336.html
There's a link and the team below.
Matthew McNeice (St Colman's Newry);
Niall Donnelly (St Colman's Newry),
Ciaran Cannon (St Eunan's Letterkenny),
Peter Quinn (St Mary's Magherafelt);
Aidan Breen (St Michael's Enniskillen),
Conall McNulty (St Joseph's Donaghmore),
Caolán Mooney (St Colman's Newry);
Richard Donnelly (St Michael's Enniskillen),
Harry Og Conlan (St Patrick's Dungannon);
Ronan McGrady (Our Lady's and St Patrick's Knock),
Ruairí Corrigan (St Michael's Enniskillen),
Emmet Bradley (St Patrick's Maghera);
Ryan Mayse (Omagh CBS),
John McCullagh (Omagh CBS),
Conor McNally (St Patrick's Armagh)
I'm sure all the lads that won awards deserve some recognition but to be completely honest the selection process is so totally flawed as to render the awards almost meaningless at this point.
http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/watch/BT-Ulster-Colleges-Football-All-Stars-2010-11-266// video clips and interviews from the Football All Stars.
The details are all also on the Ulster Colleges website - http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org
Caolán Mooney. I may be wrong but i thought this lad was a forward.....
Surprised Jerome Johnston didn't get one
Is Conan Grugan still at CBS? Shocking if he is and didn't get an All-Star along with Ronan O'Neill
think there is about 8 or 9 of them players that deserve the award, many of the best players in this years MacRory cup have been overlooked. the Selection process needs to be looked at
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 30, 2010, 12:34:08 AM
Is Conan Grugan still at CBS? Shocking if he is and didn't get an All-Star along with Ronan O'Neill
Grugan has moved on and Ronan O' Neill has been injured for a while now.
Quote from: Metro on December 30, 2010, 02:49:08 PM
think there is about 8 or 9 of them players that deserve the award, many of the best players in this years MacRory cup have been overlooked. the Selection process needs to be looked at
Is this years selection any different than any other year? I don't think so. Rarely is the team that is picked a true reflection of the best players at this level and its the same again this year. Not sure if there is another way of picking the team as it is an wonderful honour but an awful way of picking it.
Quote from: duvet dave on December 30, 2010, 04:46:53 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 30, 2010, 12:34:08 AM
Is Conan Grugan still at CBS? Shocking if he is and didn't get an All-Star along with Ronan O'Neill
Grugan has moved on and Ronan O' Neill has been injured for a while now.
Quote from: Metro on December 30, 2010, 02:49:08 PM
think there is about 8 or 9 of them players that deserve the award, many of the best players in this years MacRory cup have been overlooked. the Selection process needs to be looked at
Is this years selection any different than any other year? I don't think so. Rarely is the team that is picked a true reflection of the best players at this level and its the same again this year. Not sure if there is another way of picking the team as it is an wonderful honour but an awful way of picking it.
Surely a scouting system and the team announcement after the MacRory cup is over would be a better way of selecting the best players. Whilst it is great that people get the chance to win a All-Star, you want the best 15 players gathering the awards.
Quote from: Take Your Points on December 30, 2010, 08:16:12 PM
The current system is that every school regardless of grade A, B or C can send up to 6 players to a trial. At the trial, teams are picked and a number of games are played while viewed by the three selectors. After the initial trials players are called back to a final trial and the final 15 are chosen.
Apparently the selectors were John McElroy (Fermanagh), Tony Scullion (Derry) and Mr Murphy (Donegal).
Are you sure about that, take your points? I was lead to believe that only the schools in the MacRory were able to send 6 players and the rest of the schools had to send less. I'm not sure how many though but not 6.
Quote from: Take Your Points on December 30, 2010, 09:54:51 PM
You are right as usual, it is 6, 4 and 2.
Not sure what you mean - 6,4 and 2 means what?
2010/2011 Ulster Colleges All-Stars
This week the presitigious BT Ulster Colleges Football and Hurling All-stars were announced.
Pictured is Conor McNally (St Patrick's Armagh) who completed a personal double. He was selected at corner-forward in both the Hurling team announced on Tuesday and the Football team announced today. Conor was also at corner-forward in last year's elite Hurling team. Conor joins Peter Morris, Consumer Director, BT left and Paddy Linden, Vice-chairman Ulster Colleges Council.
2010/11 BT Colleges' Football All-stars
1. Matthew McNeice (St Colman's Newry)
2. Niall Donnelly (St Colman's Newry)
3. Ciaran Cannon (St Eunan's Letterkenny)
4. Peter Quinn (St Mary's Magherafelt)
5. Aidan Breen (St Michael's Enniskillen)
6. Conall McNulty (St Joseph's Donaghmore)
7. Caolán Mooney (St Colman's Newry)
8. Richard Donnelly (St Michael's Enniskillen)
9. Harry Óg Conlan (St Patrick's Dungannon)
10. Ronan McGrady (Our Lady's and St Patrick's Knock)
11. Ruairí Corrigan (St Michael's Enniskillen)
12. Emmet Bradley (St Patrick's Maghera)
13. Ryan Mayse (Omagh CBS)
14. John McCullagh (Omagh CBS)
15. Conor McNally (St Patrick's Armagh)
■These All-stars are known as the 2010/11 Football All-stars and this is the 24th year of the Ulster Colleges' All-star scheme.
■Players are selected over the course of two trial games, after being initially nominated by their own school to attend the trials.
The scheme rewards excellence in skill and in sportsmanship and a player who has been sent off in any game between September 1st and the dates of the trials is ineligible for selection.
■St Michael's Enniskillen defeated St Patrick's Dungannon in the BT MacCormack Cup final 1-10 to 2-3 last week.
■3 St Michael's Enniskillen players make the team, while only Harry Óg Conlan is selected from St Patrick's Dungannon.
■3 players from current Hogan champions St Colman's Newry are included – all in defence – while there are 2 Omagh CBS forwards and 1 each from a further 6 schools. Overall 10 schools are represented in the selection.
■Conall McNulty is the first player from St Joseph's Donaghmore to be awarded an Ulster Colleges' All-star. St Joseph's becomes the 31st school to be included in the scheme.
■Ronan McGrady's inclusion is only the third time that Our Lady's and St Patrick's Knock has had a footballer recognised. Marcus Miskelly (2002) and Seán Molloy (2006) were like Ronan selected in attack.
■6 of the 9 teams still involved in the BT MacRory Cup have players in the line-out – St Macartan's Monaghn, Abbey CBS and St Michael's Lurgan are the exceptions.
■Ciaran Cannon (St Eunan's Letterkenny), Conall McNulty (St Joseph's Donaghmore) and Ronan McGrady (Our Lady's and St Patrick's Knock) are in the BT O'Doherty /MacLarnon Cup draw, while Emmet Bradley's St Patrick's Maghera were knocked out of the BT MacRory in a play-off last week.
■Seven of the nine counties are represented, with 5 All-stars for Tyrone players, 2 each for Derry, Down, Armagh and Fermanagh, and 1 each for Antrim and Donegal.
■None of last year's team are winning a second Football All-star, although corner-forward Conor McNally is receiving his third, having gained back to back hurling All-stars as a corner-forward last year and this year.
■Caolán Mooney has signed professional terms with Aussie Rules' club Collingwood and will join them in summer 2011 when he completes his A Levels.
■Richard Donnelly, Harry óg Conlan and John McCullagh were all in the Tyrone team that won the All-Ireland Minor title in September, Harry scoring a goal and John picking up the Player of the Match Award and the Ulster GAA Writers' Award for September.
■Richard Donnelly has repeated his brother Matthew's feat of winning Ulster and All-Ireland Minor medals in 2008 and the following year picking up a BT Ulster Colleges' All-star.
■Ruairí Corrigan's brother Tomás was corner-forward in the 2009 All-star team and is now on the Fermanagh Senior squad. Tomás and Ruairí are sons of Dominic, who has taken St Michael's to the MacRory title on a couple of occasions and also managed both Fermanagh and Sligo at senior level.
■In overall terms, St. Patrick's Maghera stay ahead of Abbey CBS with 44 football awards and they are joint-tops in the Hurling winners' list with St Mary's Belfast with 73 awards.
Abbey Newry defeated StMichaels Lurgan 3.11 to 0.6 in the Mac Rory cup in Newry on Sunday , to qualify for a quarter final clash with StColmansNewry.
MacRory Quarter-final venues & times have been announced...
http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/-blog/BT_MacRory_Cup_Quarter-finals_34 (http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/-blog/BT_MacRory_Cup_Quarter-finals_34)
St Mick 1-6 McCartans 0-1 HT
St Michael's were freely available at 8-1 last week with Ladbrooke's, Paddy Power, etc.
Good value IMO
1-8 st micks to 0-8 McCartans 15mins left
1-08 st micks 1-06 mccartans
1-9 1-7. Massive chance for macartans to draw but flew over bar from 3 yards
St Patrick's Dungannon 3-12 - St Patrick's Armagh 1-9 from Maghery this afternoon according to the BBC championship
Watch the goals from the St Mick's game and that last-ditch chance that was nearly a goal and would have forced extra-time
http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/watch/BT-MacRory-Cup---St-Michaels-v-St-Macartans-318 (http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/watch/BT-MacRory-Cup---St-Michaels-v-St-Macartans-318)
who do academy play now?
ST.COLMANS 3-6
ABBEY 0-5
Hopefully St Micks and SPAD can avoid each other in the draw, so us neutrals can get the dream final. ie the 2 best teams.
Video match report from the Newry derby last night.. St Colman's looking very impressive.. http://bit.ly/dIw880 (http://bit.ly/dIw880)
There's live updates from the @Doiregaa twitter feed on the St Marys Magherfelt v Omagh CBS game in Maghery if anyone's looking a score.
From @DoireGAA
QuoteMissed another goal and then got one. St Mary's 1-2 Omagh 0-3
St Mary's Magherfelt 1-09 Omagh CBS 0-06. Not looking good forth brothers.
Omagh 0.7 , Magherafelt 2.10 full time, semi final draw Magherafelt v Newry, and Dungannon v Enniskillen.
You can watch the Magherafelt goals here from today - http://bit.ly/i0rO4s (http://bit.ly/i0rO4s) - and last night's Newry derby is there as well.
some win for st. marys on saturday, quality side all over
MacRory Semi-final venues and times - http://bit.ly/gL2ias (http://bit.ly/gL2ias)
Sorry that last link doesn't work but this one does... http://bit.ly/eJkabN (http://bit.ly/eJkabN)
Quote from: Any craic on February 20, 2011, 07:07:02 PM
Sorry that last link doesn't work but this one does... http://bit.ly/eJkabN (http://bit.ly/eJkabN)
If I was BT I would be extremely annoyed with the semi final fixtures being released on an unofficial website rather than the Ulster Colleges website?
That is some PR blunder - how can this happen?
Apparently this is what the are but nothing official yet:
BT MacRory Cup Semi-finals
20th Feb 2011
Friday February 25
7.00pm at Healy Park, Omagh
St Michael's Enniskillen v St Patrick's Academy Dungannon
Saturday February 26
2.30pm in the Athletic Grounds, Armagh
St Colman's Newry v St Mary's Magherafelt
The fixtures are sent out to a group list of media contacts who are free to use them as they wish. So they'll be in the Irish News in the morning and so on. They could also be posted on the Ulster Colleges site.
Only now they are up on the Ulster Colleges website after you released them.
I think I would put them up on my website first if I were the Ulster Colleges but thats just me.
They must have a very poor PRO if thats the case.
That's very unfair. They do all the updates voluntarily and do their best to get the information out there as soon as they can. I feel it's more a case of the ever-changing world of social media where everything gets out there faster than before. As you say, the fixtures are there now.
The fixtures should have been released on the Ulster Colleges website first - end of.
From today in Armagh... good game in the MacLarnon.. http://bit.ly/eGRbqM (http://bit.ly/eGRbqM)
I'll be looking forward to Violet Hill giving the Convent a footballing lesson on Saturday.
No chance of Colmans being over-confident after the last game against The Abbey.
Mussen and Co will have probably given them a kick up the hole that many of them needed since the last day out.
Id expect a team with so many of last years players available to be able to beat St Marys.
St Pat's Dungannon 2-9
Enniskillen 0-13
FT
Quote from: ONeill on February 25, 2011, 08:47:43 PM
St Pat's Dungannon 2-9
Enniskillen 0-13
FT
Congratulations to St Pats. Great to see a Tyrone side in the MacRory final once more.
St Pat's Dungannon beat Michael's in MacRory Cup semi
Goals from Harry Og Conlon and Aidan McGarrity helped St Pat's Dungannon beat St Michael's Enniskillen 2-9 to 0-13 in the MacRory Cup semi-final.
St Pat's led 0-5 to 0-4 at half-time, helped by three Stefan Lavery points.
Conlon's goal extended Dungannon's lead to four points but St Michael's were on terms by the 52nd minute in Friday's game when Aidan Greene pointed.
But McGarrity's crucial second goal put St Pat's four up again as Enniskillen were left to rue missed goal chances.
St Michael's two goal chances came in the closing 10 minutes including a last-gasp effort which was blocked.
The second semi-final will see holders St Colman's Newry face St Mary's Magherafelt at 1430 GMT on Saturday, with Armagh the venue for the game.
The final will take place on St Patrick's Day.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/9406879.stm
MacRory Final
St. Patrick's Dungannon v St Colmans Newry
G'wan The College!
Colmans 2-11 win against St Marys 1-11
Have these two met before at all this year? Would fancy St Colman's, the semi of two years ago is bound to be still fresh in their memories.
St Colmans were always the better team, but struggled to put the Convent away. It looked like Violet Hill would run away with it after 10 mins when they went 1-2 to 0-0. I think there was four points in it at half time. St Mary's played a lot of the second half with only 14 players, so fair play to them for bringing the game level.
Soft handy frees missed by St Colmans - they will have to step up for the final.
Sadly, only one Armagh man on the team.
Dont know who won the St Pius v St Marys Belfast match.
Bel 1-10 1-8 pius
http://bit.ly/gWelCI (http://bit.ly/gWelCI) - St Colman's goal against Magherafelt
Quote from: Any craic on February 27, 2011, 11:27:29 AM
http://bit.ly/gWelCI (http://bit.ly/gWelCI) - St Colman's goal against Magherafelt
doesnt work?
works for me, I checked it just now
Extended highlights from the Academy beating St Michael's Enniskillen in the MacRory Cup are on the website now, basically it shows most of the scores from play in the game - http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/ (http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/)
Is the Mac Rory final in Armagh this year or am I mad for listening to the knowledge of a woman?
Quote from: dundrumite on March 04, 2011, 12:06:36 PM
Is the Mac Rory final in Armagh this year or am I mad for listening to the knowledge of a woman?
Yep its in the Athletic Grounds
From Ulster Colleges website
Thu 17th Mar 2011
11:15 MacLarnon F St Paul's v St Mary's CBS Athletic Grounds Ciaran Brannigan, Down
1:15 MacRory F Dungannon v St Colman's Athletic Grounds Barry Cassidy, Derry
I loved the Casement Park tradition..Why has it changed?
The captain of the St Pauls team has some day on st pats. Younger brother of Cross half back, Ronan Finnegan has to play the McClarnon and then has to high-tail it Croke Park for the club final. It would be some day if there is a double victory!
Athletic Grounds definitely a really sensible choice for both games, well done on that
If you look at the location of the two schools Armagh seems to be the perfect choice of venue.
Roll of Honour so far:
Colman's 18
Pat's Dungannon 5
what time is throw-in for macrory final?
Thu 17th Mar 2011
11:15 MacLarnon F St Paul's v St Mary's CBS Athletic Grounds Ciaran Brannigan, Down
1:15 MacRory F Dungannon v St Colman's Athletic Grounds Barry Cassidy, Derry
Is there any Armagh minors on any of the teams ??
There is one Armagh lad Pearse Casey on the St Colman's first team. Not sure if he still qualifies for Minors. This is basically a Down team, even the Abbey was more Down than Armagh.
College have 3 Armagh lads on starting team Matthew Mc Neice Connor Gough and Pearse Casey with at least two more on the bench Neil Smyth and Conall Gough not sure about any more on the subs
Will the Final be broadcast over the Internet? I'd love to listen to it or possibly even see it, if that is possible.
Final usually broadcasted on BBC 1 or 2 on St Patricks day assume it will be the same this year
Quote from: redandblack4ever on March 08, 2011, 01:41:21 AM
Will the Final be broadcast over the Internet? I'd love to listen to it or possibly even see it, if that is possible.
This last couple of years its been streamed live on the bbc ni website.
You will not see a better winning celebration than this fella today at the end of the BT Nolan Cup Final - http://bit.ly/ebfd4R (http://bit.ly/ebfd4R)
Quote from: Any craic on March 16, 2011, 08:41:34 PM
You will not see a better winning celebration than this fella today at the end of the BT Nolan Cup Final - http://bit.ly/ebfd4R (http://bit.ly/ebfd4R)
Brilliant!
And well done to the Barney - a school not known for Gaelic.
good luck to the academy and harps forward ryan devlin tomorrow.
should be a great game with a lot of quality players on both sides.
think the academy will take it by 2 points.
St Colmans to win it by a point.
Good luck to the Academy tomorrow. Great to see them getting to the MacRory final regularly.
Saw them in a challenge game over Christmas. Liam Gervin was outstanding, as were Conlan and Devlin. Serious talent on that team
Winners to play Dundalk Colleges in Hogan-semi once the celebrations die down.
Many/any Armagh lads on the Dungannon side?
Colman's by two.
It says on the BBC website the game's live from 1pm but I can't find it?
Is it possible to watch the game online from london?
I was just about to as kthe same thing! Is there any links or anything?
whisht! I've got it on bbc website!
There it is now alright, happy days.
Could someone please give me the link to the website. I really would appreciate it. I think BBC Northern Ireland has a geo-block on it. I'm in Chicago and I seriously doubt that I can get it to load.
Pretty decent game in Armagh, with plenty of goal chances, and St Colman's fortunate to be level at the break. They didn't manage a point from play in the first 25 minutes, and rely very heavily on the two Johnstons and Mooney. However, they have the wind in the second half and it should be a tight one.
What's the score at the break?
Quote from: redandblack4ever on March 17, 2011, 02:10:11 PM
What's the score at the break?
Pats 1-7 Colmans 1-5 40 mins gone
St Pats 1-07 St Colmans 1-06
1-07 to 2-06 Great goal by Mooney
1-07 to 2-07
Outstanding Mooney goal - St Colman's 3 up with ten left
Quote from: George Foreman on March 17, 2011, 01:09:30 PM
It says on the BBC website the game's live from 1pm but I can't find it?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/9427841.stm
1-07 to 2-08 to Colmans
2 -07 to 2-08
Pats goal, not over just yet
2 -07 to 2-09
2 -08 to 2-09 Injury time
Colmans doing well keeping possession
2 -08 to 2-09 Game over. Colmans win by a point Unreal game
Is the rugby on next?? ;D
Niall Donnelly man of the match
The way St Colman's kept possession in injury time was hugely impressive and Mooney was the man. Hopefully, he willl come back after a couple of years at Collingwood and go straight into the Down senior team.
Well done VHC
Great win for St Colman's. Very evenly matched game. Mooney was unreal, without him they wouldn't be the team they are. Ref seemed to let a lot of cynical tugging and pulling go which suited Dungannon. Hard luck to them as they seemed a bit more clinical with their shooting.
Quote from: hardstation on March 17, 2011, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on March 17, 2011, 02:37:28 PM
Is the rugby on next?? ;D
Yes should be a good game between Campbell and Inst. The Old Classic.
Incidentally there is a GAA man playing for Campbell in the rugby final.
Well done St. Colmans.
Mooney is gonna be a big loss to Down football in years to come.
Well dont to St Colmans on addiing another McCrory title to their list.
And to think, The Abbey owned the ball against these guys in the Quarter-Final and still couldnt put them away.
You just cant beat class. The aristocracy march on. ;)
I thought I'd seen everything, but no.
A Campbell College supporter had a black and white union jack on the pitch at Ravenhill.
See St Patrick's Day in Armagh in 60 seconds - Caolan Mooney, Cardinal Sean Brady & Ray Morgan - http://bit.ly/h6gfmY (http://bit.ly/h6gfmY)
Great result for the college fair play to all the lads and especially Cathal and Declan Mooney big loss to Down football but Jack Haughey agood prospect even if he is shamrocks ha ha . Maybe i am wrong but was the last man to play Mc Crory cup at 4th year for the College was Greg Blaney .
Dermot McNicholl played for Maghera in 3rd year, and I think his cousin (and mine ;)) Declan played in 4th., but I may be wrong
Mc Nicholl some player remember him playing against the college with wee james also playing
Quote from: fitzroyalty on March 17, 2011, 03:05:12 PM
Great win for St Colman's. Very evenly matched game. Mooney was unreal, without him they wouldn't be the team they are. Ref seemed to let a lot of cynical tugging and pulling go which suited Dungannon. Hard luck to them as they seemed a bit more clinical with their shooting.
Quote from: hardstation on March 17, 2011, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on March 17, 2011, 02:37:28 PM
Is the rugby on next?? ;D
Yes should be a good game between Campbell and Inst. The Old Classic.
Incidentally there is a GAA man playing for Campbell in the rugby final.
Thought their shooting was poor to be fair. No 15 missed some amount!
Quote from: NP 76 on March 17, 2011, 06:10:19 PM
Mc Nicholl some player remember him playing against the college with wee james also playing
You sure about that. McNicholl left maghera in 1984 and wee James left Colmans in 1989. James would therefore have been a 2nd year playing MacRory.
Fair play st colmans, i thought the FB CHB, no 8 and mooney were stand out performers!
You sure about that. McNicholl left maghera in 1984 and wee James left Colmans in 1989. James would therefore have been a 2nd year playing MacRory.
your right lenny had a few to many today thanks
i hear there was a riot after the game today, any word?
I'm almost certain that Diarmuid Marsden featured as a Colmans sub in the 1990 final, when a 4th year. I'd need to do a bit of digging but there's a few of or around Marsden's vintage - Conor Lavery, Niall Magee, Martin McEvoy, Sean Cunningham - who might have done something similar. If we are talking though about making a significant contribution to a MacRory win, well then young Haughey has few peers.
I'm delighted for Colmans. Given the number of key players they were able to return this year, it was kind of insulting that they weren't favourites throughout; especially when one of those players - in the shape of Mooney - is basically a once in a generation talent.
Personally I found the Johnston boys disappointing today. Both of them tried to show leadership by example, and basically took too much upon themselves. I'm a fan of them - Ryan in particular - but they fell badly into a trap of trying too hard to be big game players. But, they both contributed a lot to a big College performance, in which nos. 11, 5, 13 and Haughey at 7, made sure enough dirty ball was won for the stars to shine.
Quote from: Banana Man on March 17, 2011, 09:37:30 PM
i hear there was a riot after the game today, any word?
Nah, that was the soccer final in Belfast.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/irish/9428335.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/irish/9428335.stm)
very disappointed with academy today. lot of big players didnt turn up and management played 3 key players out of position which didnt help. having said that - the best team won overall.
but what did people think of the disputed point in the 2nd half?
Quote from: Take Your Points on March 17, 2011, 11:35:30 PM
Academy kicked enough wides to win the game easily especially in the last 10.
It was lost on the line.
i said after 10 minutes that it was being lost on the line.
ryan devlin is not a target man and never will be. he's never played full forward for stewartstown ever - that's not his game. kiefer morgan is more dangerous in the full forward line. morgan and devlin roles should have been swapped. what harry og was doing in the half forward line i will never know.
crazy stuff tbh.
at the end of the day the academy played as individuals and therefore had no shape - and it showed.
the better team won but the academy management had a bad day at the office.
Quote from: Orior on March 17, 2011, 10:46:22 PM
Quote from: Banana Man on March 17, 2011, 09:37:30 PM
i hear there was a riot after the game today, any word?
Nah, that was the soccer final in Belfast.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/irish/9428335.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/irish/9428335.stm)
jeysus your wee man will get killed by the hallion with the top off, good job yer man is in the middle of them ha ha
Maybe have been asked/answered elsewhere and I am probably showing my ignorance but were the St Marys school the same one who one the McLarnon on the same day?
Quote from: Glensman on March 18, 2011, 04:18:44 PM
Maybe have been asked/answered elsewhere and I am probably showing my ignorance but were the St Marys school the same one who one the McLarnon on the same day?
Yes, St Mary's CBS beat St Paul's Bessbrook (Not sure if I needed that last apostrophe)
THE GAME AND THE RUGBY
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00zndrq/MacRory_Cup_Final_and_Schools_Cup_Final_17_03_2011/
Quote from: Orior on March 18, 2011, 04:25:15 PM
Quote from: Glensman on March 18, 2011, 04:18:44 PM
Maybe have been asked/answered elsewhere and I am probably showing my ignorance but were the St Marys school the same one who one the McLarnon on the same day?
Yes, St Mary's CBS beat St Paul's Bessbrook (Not sure if I needed that last apostrophe)
Not many schools could win a senior football and senior soccer final on the same day. Fair play to them.
Surely there would/should have been a fair bit of crossover of the teams?
Quote from: Glensman on March 19, 2011, 03:47:56 PM
Quote from: Orior on March 18, 2011, 04:25:15 PM
Quote from: Glensman on March 18, 2011, 04:18:44 PM
Maybe have been asked/answered elsewhere and I am probably showing my ignorance but were the St Marys school the same one who one the McLarnon on the same day?
Yes, St Mary's CBS beat St Paul's Bessbrook (Not sure if I needed that last apostrophe)
Not many schools could win a senior football and senior soccer final on the same day. Fair play to them.
Surely there would/should have been a fair bit of crossover of the teams?
Just been reliably informed that the soccer was a 5th year soccer tournament...forgive my ignorance. Cheers
Are u sure it is 5th year? I know the captain of the St Marys soccer team was on the bench for the Gaelic match before.
Quote from: supersub on March 19, 2011, 06:58:28 PM
Are u sure it is 5th year? I know the captain of the St Marys soccer team was on the bench for the Gaelic match before.
Yes a 5th year competition, the lad who captain them was a Galls man
Back to Back Hogans now the Focus
Thu 24th Mar 2011
Hogan Cup semi-final :
Saturday, 26th March, 2.45pm Crossmaglen (EXTRA TIME in the event of a draw)
St Colman's Newry v Dundalk Colleges
Now that St Colman's Newry have stretched their record of BT MacRory crowns to 19, they are on the road in search of back-to-back Hogan titles, something that the Violet Hill College has not yet achieved.
However, on the road is quite relative in that they will play their semi-final THIS SATURDAY in Crossmaglen – within the school catchment area.
Dundalk Colleges' unexpected eclipse of the Leinster title a fortnight ago makes this semi-final something of a derby game for the MacRory champions.
St Patrick's Navan were hot favourites for the Leinster, but lost their way early in the final with Ciaran Byrne prominent. Although the Dundalk combination played well in the first half, they had to thank goalkeeper Darren Breen for keeping them ahead by a point at the break.
The game hinged on a controversially awarded penalty 10 minutes from time that Patrick Reilly scored to put his side 2-8 to 0-10 ahead and they held on for victory.
Some may also point to a controversial call by Barry Cassidy in the BT MacRory final when he overruled his umpires to award Caolan Mooney a point, the difference between two super teams in an enthralling game on St Patrick's Day.
Mooney though starred in that final with 2 fine goals and he will attract plenty of attention from the Louth side in the semi-final. He has been nursing a shin injury since, but Cathal Murray insists that he will be in the team from the start.
There may still be a couple of hard calls for the management though, with Colman Doyle and Tomas Mulholland – two players who missed out through injury on the MacRory final – pressing for inclusion once more.
Jack Haughey, who replaced Mulholland, had a very good game, with some in the stand even comparing him to James McCartan who also made his MacRory debut at 15.
Second half sub Patrick Morgan also impressed in attack, while Shay McArdle really stood out after moving from corner-forward to defence.
Last year's Hogan victory has really stood to St Colman's in the last two very tight games. In each they held their composure and picked off the late scores to see them through – and in hindsight did not really look like losing despite the closeness of the scoring.
They move the ball quickly and have the ability to pick up breaking ball around the middle and find Jerome Johnstone in space.
Jerome's brother Ryan had an indifferent MacRory final, picking up a lot of ball, but also responsible for losing possession and over-carrying. His midfield partner Conor Gough is a huge presence under the dropping ball.
Eamon Magee did not play in last year's MacRory or Hogan finals, but is strong at centre-back and has made a huge contribution with his accurate passing, while Pearse Casey's contribution on the 40 leaves the space for Mooney to attack with venom.
Dundalk Colleges beat a good Navan side, while a very good Academy team could not stop St Colman's claim back to back provincial crowns.
This game will really test the combination team. Experience though should keep the Newry side's hopes of a double Hogan success on track.
In the other half of the draw, two more heavyweights of the Colleges' scene – Coláiste Chríost Rí of Cork and St Jarlath's Tuam – are in opposition.
The Cork side are strongly tipped this year – but St Jarlath's, chasing a 13th Hogan title, cannot be ruled out.
Submitted by: Seamus McAleenan
St Mary's Hopeful of Extending Run
Thu 24th Mar 2011
All-Ireland Colleges' B Football semi-final :
Crossmaglen, 1pm Saturday (EXTRA TIME in the event of a draw) :
St Mary's Belfast v Scoil Mhuire Clane
Two tough games in the latter stages of the BT MacLarnon Cup should stand to St Mary's Belfast as they face into the All-Ireland semi-final in Crossmaglen.
Against St Pius X, national champions 2 years ago, their early dominance was overtaken on the scoreboard entering the last 10 minutes, but Brendan Bradley produced a goal direct from a 45 and they held out for victory.
In the final, they had a 4 points lead at the break, but had to face the strong breeze a player down for the second half.
They managed that brilliantly as well as hitting vital scores on the break to see off St Paul's Bessbrook.
Although the Leinster final was on Saturday, the Glen Road management didn't get to see Scoil Mhuire Clane score a goal in each half through Conor Herbert and Kenneth Swords to take the title 2-8 to 0-9.
Herbert picked off half their total and only a point came from a free.
Donagh Finnegan made the point before the MacLarnon final that they had not seen their opponents in action and this helped them concentrate on getting their own game in order.
The school was on a long weekend, but came in on Monday to train and re-focus and Finnegan and his co-manager Sean McGoldrick are hoping that they bring their best game to Crossmaglen.
"The further you go in a competition, the harder the games become," said Donagh.
"We are now up against teams that have also won provincial titles and they will also believe that those wins bring with them an increase in confidence."
"We have had good opening halves in our knock-out games and that has left us in a good situation to hold on or push on. We're hoping that this next game follows the same pattern."
Bradley's accuracy from frees during the second half of the MacLarnon final kept the pressure on St Paul's, but the midfield pairing of Eamon Quinn and Marc Jordan was particularly effective throughout, with Daragh McGuinness's ball-carrying and passing a key element.
Man-marker Ciaran Orchin was left standing by Jemar Hall on several occasions during the first half, but he settled to a strong game and saw Hall substituted near the end. He will probably pick up score-getter Herbert.
The defence in general was compact and was not often stretched, with Eamon Quinn and McGuinness often dropping back as extra cover.
All these pluses must be replicated against Scoil Mhuire, while some of the mistakes evident need to be reduced, particularly forwards allowing their shots to be easily blocked down.
St Mary's have shown an ability to hold out in close encounters. That brought their hosts, Crossmaglen, to another All-Ireland club title this year. Perhaps it can be the key to the west Belfast side also reaching the national final.
Submitted by: Seamus McAleenan
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Quote from: Any craic on March 25, 2011, 06:35:26 AM
GAA Video Star of the Month - a refreshing story from Belfast - http://bit.ly/hBgSBA (http://bit.ly/hBgSBA)
Great video, great story - fair play to the young lad, came across very well and spoke well too
Is there any internet radio coveage of St. Colman's v Dundallk game today. I'm onliine right now with Five FM and all they're playing is country music?? If anyone knows, could you please put up a link on the board. It woulld be much appreciated by me. Chicago is a long way from Crossmaglen.
Mrs.redandblack4ever
St Colmans 3 points up Dundalk yet to score
Colmans 5 pts Dundalk 1pt
Goal for college Mooney
StColmans 1-06 Dundalk )-03
How's the other semi going?
I found the game on the internet. It's station from Drogheda. Caolan Mooney 2nd goal!! 2-7 to 0-3. C'mon the College!!!
Colmans 2 -07 Dundalk 0-03 Mooney again
Goal for Dundalk 2-8 to 1-3..
Goal Dundalk
2-8 to 1-4 Dndalk seems to be playing better. Half-time.
HT College "-08 Dundalk 1-04
College 2 -08 Dundalk ! -04 ht
Any word on the other semi-final?
Pat's Maghera won the O'Keefe Cup - 0 14 to 0 11 against Raphael's Loughrea.
Anyone know how St Mary's got on against Clane?
2-9 to 1-4. Jerome Johnston point.
2-9 to 1-5.
2 -09 to 1-05
2-9 to 1-6. Dundalk coming back.
2-09 1-06
anyone know what the final score is for the college vs dundalk match
See there is little point in taking the time out from watching the match to relay the scores as someone else is now doing it can now go back to watch it in peace
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on March 26, 2011, 03:37:14 PM
Pat's Maghera won the O'Keefe Cup - 0 14 to 0 11 against Raphael's Loughrea.
Anyone know how St Mary's got on against Clane?
Would like to know myself? as the winners play Roscommon CBS in the All Ireland final
Colman's missed a goal and a point. 2--10 to 1-8 Ciaran Byrne for Dundalk.
Colman 2-11 to 1-8. Point by Patrick Morgan.
redandblack4ever
u wouldn't know how long is left would you
St. Colmans 2-11 to 1-9. Point by Ciiaran Byrne. 10 minutes left.
Quote from: redandblack4ever on March 26, 2011, 04:01:12 PM
St. Colmans 2-11 to 1-9. Point by Ciiaran Byrne. 10 minutes left.
cheers
2-12 to 1--9 Point by Patrick Morgan.
2-13 to 1-9 J Johnstone point.
2-14 to 1-9 Caolon Mooney poiint
Goal Shane McArdle 3-14 to 1-9. No extra time needed. Last minute. Very good, St. Colman's in Hogan Cup final 2 weeks from today/
Quote from: redandblack4ever on March 26, 2011, 04:13:46 PM
Goal Shane McArdle 3-14 to 1-9. No extra time needed. Last minute. Very good, St. Colman's in Hogan Cup final 2 weeks from today/
cheers now come on the college
Exactly. They play St. Jarlath's Tuam. Should be a good game.
will that be in croker?
hopefully
come on the college
Redandblack and NP76 thank you very much for the updates. They were very much appreciated. NP76 will you be able to text updates from the final? I will be in Killarney for the county match.
The College can prove they are the best team in Ireland and win back to back titles for the first time ever!!!! Come on the blues!!
College game in croke park on 9th of April against St Jarlaths . Thanks Paul i also will be in kerry but will be stopping off in Croker first on way down the road to support the old school lets hope they make history . Mooney is a serious loss to Down football . The only thing i hope for is that he goes on his own and doesnt take Clarke with him
The College look like they'll be tough to beat, strolled this one in second gear for the most part.
Unfortunately a few very good prospects for Down, but nice to see a couple of Armagh lads playing crucial roles in the middle of the pitch.
Quote from: AFS on March 26, 2011, 06:15:12 PM
The College look like they'll be tough to beat, strolled this one in second gear for the most part.
Unfortunately a few very good prospects for Down, but nice to see a couple of Armagh lads playing crucial roles in the middle of the pitch.
How'd Pearse Casey do AFS?
Well doen to St Colman's. Unfortunately I couldn't get up as my club were playing at the same time but good victory. Successive Hogans would be a magnificent achievement.
Caught a few balls around the middle. Not as stylish as some of the other big men on the College team, but very strong. Is he a minor this year? College are strong around the middle with Johnston and Gough two quality players as well.
Quote from: duvet dave on March 24, 2011, 11:14:10 PM
St Mary's Hopeful of Extending Run
Thu 24th Mar 2011
All-Ireland Colleges' B Football semi-final :
Crossmaglen, 1pm Saturday (EXTRA TIME in the event of a draw) :
St Mary's Belfast v Scoil Mhuire Clane
Two tough games in the latter stages of the BT MacLarnon Cup should stand to St Mary's Belfast as they face into the All-Ireland semi-final in Crossmaglen.
Against St Pius X, national champions 2 years ago, their early dominance was overtaken on the scoreboard entering the last 10 minutes, but Brendan Bradley produced a goal direct from a 45 and they held out for victory.
In the final, they had a 4 points lead at the break, but had to face the strong breeze a player down for the second half.
They managed that brilliantly as well as hitting vital scores on the break to see off St Paul's Bessbrook.
Although the Leinster final was on Saturday, the Glen Road management didn't get to see Scoil Mhuire Clane score a goal in each half through Conor Herbert and Kenneth Swords to take the title 2-8 to 0-9.
Herbert picked off half their total and only a point came from a free.
Donagh Finnegan made the point before the MacLarnon final that they had not seen their opponents in action and this helped them concentrate on getting their own game in order.
The school was on a long weekend, but came in on Monday to train and re-focus and Finnegan and his co-manager Sean McGoldrick are hoping that they bring their best game to Crossmaglen.
"The further you go in a competition, the harder the games become," said Donagh.
"We are now up against teams that have also won provincial titles and they will also believe that those wins bring with them an increase in confidence."
"We have had good opening halves in our knock-out games and that has left us in a good situation to hold on or push on. We're hoping that this next game follows the same pattern."
Bradley's accuracy from frees during the second half of the MacLarnon final kept the pressure on St Paul's, but the midfield pairing of Eamon Quinn and Marc Jordan was particularly effective throughout, with Daragh McGuinness's ball-carrying and passing a key element.
Man-marker Ciaran Orchin was left standing by Jemar Hall on several occasions during the first half, but he settled to a strong game and saw Hall substituted near the end. He will probably pick up score-getter Herbert.
The defence in general was compact and was not often stretched, with Eamon Quinn and McGuinness often dropping back as extra cover.
All these pluses must be replicated against Scoil Mhuire, while some of the mistakes evident need to be reduced, particularly forwards allowing their shots to be easily blocked down.
St Mary's have shown an ability to hold out in close encounters. That brought their hosts, Crossmaglen, to another All-Ireland club title this year. Perhaps it can be the key to the west Belfast side also reaching the national final.
Submitted by: Seamus McAleenan
I'm hearing Scoil Mhuire Clane won this.
On Apriil 9th I'll be on the computer, hopefully watching the Hogan Final. Last year, if I remember correctly, TG4 broadcasted it and I sure hope they do again this year. TG4 sort of drives me crazy, as I don't understand any Irish, but that doesn't matter when you can watch a game live.
I'm from the South Side of Chicago (Oak Lawn) for anybody that's familiar, and we have a contingent of a few ex-pupils from Violet Hilll and Mr. Wonderful's originally from Hilltown. There's quite a Hilltown connection to this team so I just want to wish all the boys and the management, especially Cathal Murray, all the best. Cathal didn't get back to back Hogan's when he played for Violet Hill iin the late 80's, so I can imagine how much it would mean to him, to see this generation of Violet Hill boys to bring the Hogan Cup back to Newry.
Go Blue Army!! You can do this!!
Mrs. redandblack4ever
Does the u18 rule still apply to hogan cup football or are the ulster teams 6 months older?
Quote from: NP 76 on March 26, 2011, 04:39:50 PM
College game in croke park on 9th of April against St Jarlaths . Thanks Paul i also will be in kerry but will be stopping off in Croker first on way down the road to support the old school lets hope they make history . Mooney is a serious loss to Down football . The only thing i hope for is that he goes on his own and doesnt take Clarke with him
While I am very grateful that you would have sent updates on the score, I am glad to say that I won't be needing them. Just checked TG4 website and they have scheduled to show the final live. So while you are in Croke Park I'll be in a pub in Killarney waiting your arrival in the Kingdom.
Looking forward to a classico final - St Jarlath's vs St Colmans. Of the 57 Hogan cups played these two have 19 wins and played in 33 finals between them. The head to head in finals is two nil to St Colmans (1967 & 1993). The College lost their first final in 1957 and since then have recorded 7 straight victories.
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 26, 2011, 11:03:25 PM
Does the u18 rule still apply to hogan cup football or are the ulster teams 6 months older?
That rule disappeared in the mid 90's.
On another note congrats to the St Pat's Maghera senior hurlers for winning the O'Keefe Cup.
Quote from: PAULD123 on March 27, 2011, 12:01:49 PM
Quote from: NP 76 on March 26, 2011, 04:39:50 PM
College game in croke park on 9th of April against St Jarlaths . Thanks Paul i also will be in kerry but will be stopping off in Croker first on way down the road to support the old school lets hope they make history . Mooney is a serious loss to Down football . The only thing i hope for is that he goes on his own and doesnt take Clarke with him
Looking forward to a classico final - St Jarlath's vs St Colmans. Of the 57 Hogan cups played these two have 19 wins and played in 33 finals between them. The head to head in finals is two nil to St Colmans (1967 & 1993). The College lost their first final in 1957 and since then have recorded 7 straight victories.
Jarlath's beat Colman's in the 1978 final. In fact they also played Colaiste Chriost Ri in the semi-final that year.
While I am very grateful that you would have sent updates on the score, I am glad to say that I won't be needing them. Just checked TG4 website and they have scheduled to show the final live. So while you are in Croke Park I'll be in a pub in Killarney waiting your arrival in the Kingdom.
Thanks Paul might run across you in Killarney alright hope its a sucessful two days should be good crack at least . Heard that Pauidi O Se is having a night in his pub for all travelling Down fans dont know how much about it but would be good oul craic . Good luck to St Colmans in the final to all the llads involved especially Keelan Haughey the management set up Cathal Murray Declan Mussen [one of the best trainers about] Barry Kelly and Eammon Mc Evoy hope the cup stays in Violet Hill .
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 27, 2011, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: PAULD123 on March 27, 2011, 12:01:49 PM
Quote from: NP 76 on March 26, 2011, 04:39:50 PM
College game in croke park on 9th of April against St Jarlaths . Thanks Paul i also will be in kerry but will be stopping off in Croker first on way down the road to support the old school lets hope they make history . Mooney is a serious loss to Down football . The only thing i hope for is that he goes on his own and doesnt take Clarke with him
Looking forward to a classico final - St Jarlath's vs St Colmans. Of the 57 Hogan cups played these two have 19 wins and played in 33 finals between them. The head to head in finals is two nil to St Colmans (1967 & 1993). The College lost their first final in 1957 and since then have recorded 7 straight victories.
Jarlath's beat Colman's in the 1978 final. In fact they also played Colaiste Chriost Ri in the semi-final that year.
Oops! Yeah the head to head is indeed 2-1 to the College. Anyway I'll be expecting a College win. This is a very special group of players. They're only problem is that they tend to slacken off after building up a lead as was shown in the quarter final against Abbey, the semi against St Mary's and the match at the weekend against Dundalk. But with their speed and skill in the forward line they can threaten to the last minute.
With Mooney, Lively, Ryan Johnston, Haughey and Mcardle all minors this year and the fact that Pete McGrath is back in charge I am very optimistic for a long summer in the U18 red and black. Its just a great pity Eammon Magee can't play, he's been phenomenal at CHB.
Rumour the final will be in breffni
Quote from: Any craic on March 25, 2011, 06:35:26 AM
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Did my heart good to watch that clip, great to hear such passion and eloquence from that lad.
Is Niall Donnelly over age for minor this year .
Quote from: hassletravel on March 28, 2011, 05:34:07 PM
Rumour the final will be in breffni
Doubt that somehow - it's down as a double header with the Vocational schools final, which will either be a Cookstown vs Clonakilty game or else a Gallen vs Clonakilty match. You wouldn't have Cavan for either of those. I thought this was down for Croke Park myself?
By the way, is that right about Colmans having 900 male pupils? That's a ridiculous number if that's so. Gallen amalgamated recently (the product of St Sarans and Ferbane Vocational School) and there's still only about 350 pupils, split between male and female, in the school altogether. I've no concept of what a school of 900 pupils would be like, never mind 900 teenage boys.
What kind of male numbers would Cookstown have? We'll be big underdogs this weekend but there's a few very nice footballers in there, it'd be nice to think we could give them some sort of rattle!
I don't think the College has as many as that. I would think it is closer to 600-700. But that is also the total size of the school, all the pupils will be male as its an all-boys school.
But its not bulk numbers that make a good team. The College isn't a class act because there are a load of boys there. The abbey have just as many pupils from exactly the same catchment area and the College hammered them twice. It is only 15 lads that walk on the pitch and the difference is the way they are prepared and the attitude that is developed within them from first year onwards. So it is more the system, the coaching and the effort that makes them so good.
The match is definitely scheduled for Croke park so it would be a major rethink if it was moved.
965 pupils in St Colmans but as you pointed out Paul not all footballers . Liked your last post about the College well written at least no one is arguing with you on this thread your safe among your own ha ha
There would be less boys in the a-level groups at the College as some students would leave school after GCSEs.
Do some students in the south leave after junior cert or do they have the same numbers across all year groups.
St Colman's do the work. Fierce loyal GAA school. They work to make footballers out of players. And once they combine, they have great methods and style of play. On the mention of the numbers, dont forget too that lads go to school a year earlier than down south. So you could wipe off 150 first years who are only 11 when they go in before making comparisons.
Mind you, not bad going for the young Haughey lad to make the team at 15...... Greg Blaney did it too away back in 78, a team beaten by Jarlaths in semi final. Some say wee James did it as well but i think he was 16 at the time. Dermot McNicholl was only 14, a 3rd year pupil in Maghera when he played McRory. Best if luck to Colmans.
Heard a man talking one night Bonzo and he said a thing which i thought interesting and also backs up your point about the College .He said that most schools just let the children play football wheras the College show them how to play football thought it made sense . Colmans seem to get the most out of what they have may not always be the best but always hard workers
It may not be the most relevant point but I'd like to say that besides football St Colman's have one of the best academic records in not only the North but the whole of the UK. Work is an ethic of the school and the strive to succeed is instilled right through the school system. I am sure in no small part this helps the work ethic of the footballers.
Quote from: bonzo on April 01, 2011, 04:41:49 PM
St Colman's do the work. Fierce loyal GAA school. They work to make footballers out of players. And once they combine, they have great methods and style of play. On the mention of the numbers, dont forget too that lads go to school a year earlier than down south. So you could wipe off 150 first years who are only 11 when they go in before making comparisons.
Mind you, not bad going for the young Haughey lad to make the team at 15...... Greg Blaney did it too away back in 78, a team beaten by Jarlaths in semi final. Some say wee James did it as well but i think he was 16 at the time. Dermot McNicholl was only 14, a 3rd year pupil in Maghera when he played McRory. Best if luck to Colmans.
James won the Hogan cup in 1986 & 1988. He was born sometime in the first six months of 1971 (not sure his exact birthday). When he won his first Hogan cup he was in 4th year at school. I think that means he must have been at the oldest 15. He played in the McCrory finals of 1987 (lost to Abbey aged 16), 1988 (beat Maghera aged 17), and 1989 (lost to Maghera aged 18). To be 16 in the 1986 Hogan cup would have made him 19 in the 1989 decider, which would have meant he couldn't still have been at school.
But remember in those days the Northern teams sent down mostly their underage side to compete in the McCrory cup. It was mostly a Rannefast team not a McCrory team. The change came in and around 1986-1988 which is why from 1960-1985 only 4 Northern teams won the Hogan cup but from 1986-2010 13 Northern teams have achieved the feat.
James won one hogan (1986) when Rannafast winners rep Ulster in the Hogan Cup.
In 1988 the same team won Hogan again, this time as winners of the MacRory cup.
From a Maghera point of view, big Jeff won a Hogan at 15, and was a main reason why they won it, fantastic performace in the reply against Jar's.
Whats interesting, is that if they (Colmans) win, they will be the fifth team to do a two in a row. Jars, St Mels, Maghera, Navan have all completed it
Quote from: CSC on April 01, 2011, 07:19:56 PM
James won one hogan (1986) when Rannafast winners rep Ulster in the Hogan Cup.
In 1988 the same team won Hogan again, this time as winners of the MacRory cup.
From a Maghera point of view, big Jeff won a Hogan at 15, and was a main reason why they won it, fantastic performace in the reply against Jar's.
Whats interesting, is that if they (Colmans) win, they will be the fifth team to do a two in a row. Jars, St Mels, Maghera, Navan have all completed it
Good point, it is certainly something their record deserves. But why not aim for the stars. I notice that no team has won three in a row ever!!!!! I'm probably going to get in trouble for that one ;D
just heard that its 20 euro into the Hogan cup final on saturday is this not alot of money into what really is minor football maybe i am wrong but on saturday night it was 13 euro for 2 inter county div 1 games with entertainment between the 2 games
Quote from: PAULD123 on April 01, 2011, 05:23:45 PM
It may not be the most relevant point but I'd like to say that besides football St Colman's have one of the best academic records in not only the North but the whole of the UK. Work is an ethic of the school and the strive to succeed is instilled right through the school system. I am sure in no small part this helps the work ethic of the footballers.
And yet it didn't make the top half of grammar schools in the north based on the figures published recently in the Irish News. Yet the other three grammar schools in Newry did.
I hope the College support can behave themselves this year though. Last year was disgraceful, the closest the GAA has ever come to a bunch of "Hooray Henrys".
Yes someone should think of the children
Haven't seen these tables so can't comment on them but last year 98% of A-level students at the College went on to secure university places. Other schools in Newry are also excellent and there is an outstanding academic record in the Newry area. But I have no intention of starting a debate about who got the best exam results. It was merely a point that there is a lot more to the College players than simply being bred as footballers, and that a positive attitude exists in the school generally.
The ticket price is outrageous, I guess it is to do with the amount of expected attendance and the cost of putting on a match at Croke park but I hope that it is not that price. At the very least NP76, I hope you get your value with another victory!
Took a rest so the rest could play catch up. in fairness it let the lesser lights of Ulster & All-Ireland Colleges football have some of the limelight. Now the aristocrats are back on the big stage again, great to see. Two trully great GAA footballing nurseries locking horns should be a great day out.
I think Brick the College would have to close down to let the chasing pack catch up it could take that long . Hope the pupils do behave themselves this year but think it was blew out of proportion to be honest a few flares on the pitch and heavy handed guards added to the probelm
You are right NP. And as for the talk from 'Take your points' about not breeding footballers for the last 12 years....... maybe not 'winners' but always footballers with the highest degree of sportsmanship. I may add too in response to Saffron Sam that this is not an exam forum but St Colman's did lead the Sunday Times League table as the top school last year. It is really irrelevant, as the narrow criteria used to make such a judgement does not consider all factors in the many facets of human development and background in the face of 'exams'. Anyone can couch statistics to suit themselves!
I'm sure there were plenty of so called genius minds in their day who propped up school academic league tables and who came to leading the Banks and other failing institutions in recent years........ when what mattered most was the moral integrity, that was sadly missing. Give me the honest footballer with a heart rooted in his community any day. There'll be no measuring that most valued contribution to society.
Sory lads nothing of any merit to add, just wanted to say UP THE BLUES!!!!
I'm getting a bit excited about the prospect of a back-back All-Ireland, something they never acheived while I was at school in the halcyon days of wee James (They would have done it if it wasn't for the future 1993 Derry All-Ireland champions playing for Maghera)
Remembering my days at school, the build up to the matches, the bus trips, the songs, the sneaky diversions to the pub, Jamesy slicing through packed defences, umpires raising flag after flag. Ah good days lads good days. Thank god their back!
Remember them well Paul great days all joined togrther for one or two days at least us and our neighbours sitting in the cantee learning new songs for the big day waiting on the busses and then hopefully taking the cuo back to present it to the President great days hope they continue this saturday Good luck lads
Quote from: PAULD123 on April 06, 2011, 08:09:30 AM
Sory lads nothing of any merit to add, just wanted to say UP THE BLUES!!!!
I'm getting a bit excited about the prospect of a back-back All-Ireland, something they never acheived while I was at school in the halcyon days of wee James (They would have done it if it wasn't for the future 1993 Derry All-Ireland champions playing for Maghera)
Remembering my days at school, the build up to the matches, the bus trips, the songs, the sneaky diversions to the pub, Jamesy slicing through packed defences, umpires raising flag after flag. Ah good days lads good days. Thank god their back!
The only member of the '89 team to start the '93 final was Tohill. Burns came on as a sub.
See a wonder goal from today in Cookstown at the Dalton Cup Final, Michael Mullan from Drumsurn is the lad who scored it. The best thing to come out of Drumsurn since Richard Ferris and Joe Irwin! http://bit.ly/ffWsav (http://bit.ly/ffWsav)
Some goal.