http://www.herald.ie/sport/gaelic-fo...b-1684559.html
The director general decided to use the launch of the Annual Report to have a go at..... Tallaght Stadium!?! ???
How very topical. The thing will be finished in a couple of months ffs.
Best bit is he says the GAA never got an explaination. Did they ignore the judgement and statements from the Minister, Council and FAI?
Has the DG honestly got nothing better to raise via the media than a local spat that was lost a year ago? Or is it the opening salvo in a campaign to get the exchequor to fund the hole in the accounts he published?
We should really look at the quality of the boards we elect in the GAA. So what did you make of the Mayo match DF?
Much public money was wasted in the "good times", it is time for this waste to explained.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 24, 2009, 05:09:52 PM
We should really look at the quality of the boards we elect in the GAA. So what did you make of the Mayo match DF?
I never had Duffy down as a waffler, thats what surprised me about this irrelevent speech. Surely he has something more needing of his attention than a court case that was lost over a year ago?
As for the Mayo game, didn't make it myself, but didn't hear great things. Gilroy needs to ignore the politics and play his players.
She's a crap singer anyway and that new Diet Coke ad is a disgrace... who cares what she's ranting about!
Quote from: screenexile on March 24, 2009, 05:30:12 PM
She's a crap singer anyway and that new Diet Coke ad is a disgrace... who cares what she's ranting about!
Worst ad on the telly, fuckin hate it... >:(
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 24, 2009, 05:39:31 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 24, 2009, 05:30:12 PM
She's a crap singer anyway and that new Diet Coke ad is a disgrace... who cares what she's ranting about!
Worst ad on the telly, fuckin hate it... >:(
I'm convinced that Duffy is a big joke that a couple of music producer have played on everyone. Let's see if we can make a star out of someone that looks and sounds like a cartoon duck kind of thing :-X :-\
Yep, she's brutal.
twats like you df will ensure that the loi remains the bankrupt joke it is. youd be better of directing your rant at the fai and their feeble attempts to sell 10,000 seats (around 1,000 sold btw). the fai have consistently focked up the franchise for the biggest sport in the world and you pick on duffy... as for rovers they dont deserve tallaght
Roversfella, if you were a GAA man you wouldn't object to the GAA having some access to the new stadium.
How far is Parnell Park away from Tallaght?
How long does it take to get there (taking traffic into account)?
The GAA need a better presence in that area of the city, and this was a potentially good opportunity to achieve that.
Quote from: magickingdom on March 24, 2009, 08:10:34 PM
t**ts like you df will ensure that the loi remains the bankrupt joke it is. youd be better of directing your rant at the fai and their feeble attempts to sell 10,000 seats (around 1,000 sold btw). the fai have consistently focked up the franchise for the biggest sport in the world and you pick on duffy... as for rovers they dont deserve tallaght
Perhaps if you feel so strongly about it, yourself and Duffy can dig deep and pay TD's legal costs. Or more accuratly the 10 members of TD who went guarantor on the case who were hauled up to the High Court by the Taxmaster General last month.
Quote from: thebandit on March 24, 2009, 10:08:27 PM
Roversfella, if you were a GAA man you wouldn't object to the GAA having some access to the new stadium.
How far is Parnell Park away from Tallaght?
How long does it take to get there (taking traffic into account)?
The GAA need a better presence in that area of the city, and this was a potentially good opportunity to achieve that.
I have been 100% behind the idea of a southside equivalent since day one on this saga. I, correctly, called this as a lazy, cheap and ultimatly doomed to failure way of getting a facility. The DCB have been pricking around on this issue for 20 years and the sum of their efforts was an expensive and politically damaging PR disaster of a High Court case that could well bankrupt Thomas Davis. Even of they had won, what use is 1,500 seats to anyone?
Duffy still hasn't joined the dots about why the GAA haven't gotten their fair share from the local authorities. Because instead of asking, we decided to sue and dictate terms. FF don't do getting bullied. And a year later he has the audacity to claim he doesn't understand why the GAA failed in Tallaght. Most of you here disagreed with my view on this debacle, but you understood it. Its beyond incridelous that he hasn't read the ruling or understood the previous ministers stance on the issue. Thats before we ask why he is dredging the issue up again.
I mean picking the same fight with the same government and same council a year later? What can that possibly achieve? I have no doubt they are breaking their holes laughing on the Rovers and FAI forums.
Quote from: armaghniac on March 24, 2009, 05:16:09 PM
Much public money was wasted in the "good times", it is time for this waste to explained.
Whats wasteful? The thing has been built early and under budget.
The GAA were arguing for a more expensive facility and offered no contribution, so I'm not sure thats the angle you want to take tbh.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/0325/1224243368096.html
Duffy critical of Tallaght decision
GAA director general Páraic Duffy (left) with president Nickey Brennan at the launch yesterday of the GAA 2009 annual report.In this section »
Trapattoni confident Given will be fitKyle happy Grand Slam mantle has been passed on at lastSEÁN MORAN GAA CorrespondentGAA DIRECTOR general Páraic Duffy has criticised the government decision to exclude Gaelic games from the stadium in Tallaght, now home to Shamrock Rovers. In his annual report to next month's congress, Duffy says that the decision cannot be justified.
He also told yesterday's media briefing at Croke Park the GAA would be meeting with Fingal Council next Monday to discuss the proposed stadium project there, intended to be home to League of Ireland club Sporting Fingal.
Duffy said that with local authorities showing greater interest in developing sports facilities, the trend should be towards sharing those facilities between organisations.
"We understand fully the difficult economic context in which we are operating, yet I want to emphasise again that the GAA is willing to participate in public multi-sport facilities throughout the country. The GAA will also continue to seek Government support for its own activities and investment programmes.
"However, we must address the perception among our members that we are not benefiting in an equitable manner from growing local authority investment in sport facilities. Tallaght is the most serious example of a lost opportunity to develop multi-sport participation in a publicly-funded facility.
"The implications of that decision remain a huge bone of contention within the GAA, and not just for the Thomas Davis club and the other GAA clubs in the Tallaght area. We have never received an adequate explanation as to why the wishes of the elected members of South Dublin County Council to develop a genuine multi-sport venue, specifically accommodating Gaelic games and soccer, were denied by the then Minister for Sport.
"The inescapable truth of the matter is that a stadium is effectively being developed, exclusively from exchequer funding, for a professional soccer club when a badly needed multi-sports stadium could, and should, have been provided in the area. It is a decision that simply cannot be justified."
Asked about the similar plan under consideration in the north county area, Duffy said: "We're meeting Fingal County Council next Monday and won't be making any comment until after that."
Financial matters were also under the microscope with the news that the GAA, although its Central Council revenues rose by €1m to €64m, had last year suffered a decrease in gate receipts of €5m compared to 2007.
This was spread over the football championship, which lost €2m, the hurling championship (€1m) and the national leagues, down €2m.
These losses were, however, largely offset by a rise of €4m in commercial revenues. Nearly 80 per cent of all revenues were redistributed to other units within the association.
Duffy also expressed his support for the experimental disciplinary rules currently being trialled in the national leagues and which come up for congress approval next month.
"I fully support proposals that seek to eliminate negative play in our games – pulling down, tripping, illegal body-collides, tackling around the neck and aggressive remonstration with match officials. Regardless of the outcome of Congress's deliberations, I have no doubt that the experimental period was worthwhile and that, in the longer term, it will influence our perceptions of obstructive fouling in our games."
Among the other issues raised in his report is last January's Late Late Show dedicated to the GAA's 125th anniversary, which drew wide criticism from within the association.
"The Celebrating 125 Years of the GAA programme of events started with a Late, Late Show Special. Two hours of prime-time Friday-night television should have been a fitting inauguration of the celebrations. However, it's difficult to avoid the sense that this was an opportunity missed: the remit for the programme was narrower than we would have wished and thus proved a disappointment, failing to meet the expectations of its huge audience."
He also expressed his doubts about the future of the inter-provincial competitions, which the association has struggled to accommodate in its fixtures schedules and which he feels should be laid to rest.
"Given that television now showcases our best players on a regular basis in other competitions, I do not see that the inter-provincial championships offer a genuine promotional tool for the association. Whether played at home or abroad, the competitions are expensive to stage and, in a time of recession and cutbacks, competitions that are not, at the very least, self-financing must be questioned."
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Buried in there is the decline in attendences and the reliance on soccer on rugby for the GAA to stay in the black. Maybe there is method in his madness.
Dublinfella,
How do you reckon the Kerry game will go? Will you be attending the match?
Quote from: ludermor on March 25, 2009, 10:05:35 AM
Dublinfella,
How do you reckon the Kerry game will go? Will you be attending the match?
I will and am not confident.
What do you think of the DG's re-opening of old wounds?
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 09:32:29 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/0325/1224243368096.html
He also told yesterday's media briefing at Croke Park the GAA would be meeting with Fingal Council next Monday to discuss the proposed stadium project there, intended to be home to League of Ireland club Sporting Fingal.
Duffy said that with local authorities showing greater interest in developing sports facilities, the trend should be towards sharing those facilities between organisations.
"We understand fully the difficult economic context in which we are operating, yet I want to emphasise again that the GAA is willing to participate in public multi-sport facilities throughout the country. The GAA will also continue to seek Government support for its own activities and investment programmes.
"However, we must address the perception among our members that we are not benefiting in an equitable manner from growing local authority investment in sport facilities. Tallaght is the most serious example of a lost opportunity to develop multi-sport participation in a publicly-funded facility.
"The implications of that decision remain a huge bone of contention within the GAA, and not just for the Thomas Davis club and the other GAA clubs in the Tallaght area. We have never received an adequate explanation as to why the wishes of the elected members of South Dublin County Council to develop a genuine multi-sport venue, specifically accommodating Gaelic games and soccer, were denied by the then Minister for Sport.
"The inescapable truth of the matter is that a stadium is effectively being developed, exclusively from exchequer funding, for a professional soccer club when a badly needed multi-sports stadium could, and should, have been provided in the area. It is a decision that simply cannot be justified."
Asked about the similar plan under consideration in the north county area, Duffy said: "We're meeting Fingal County Council next Monday and won't be making any comment until after that."
The title of this thread is very unfair to Duffy. When taken in context, his comments are logical and sensible, and not in any way a rant. He is 100% correct to do what he can to prevent a repeat of the Tallaght Arena scandal.
Quote from: cornafean on March 25, 2009, 10:22:00 AM
The title of this thread is very unfair to Duffy. When taken in context, his comments are logical and sensible, and not in any way a rant. He is 100% correct to do what he can to prevent a repeat of the Tallaght Arena scandal.
So you don't think his comments that the GAA expect to be included in municipal facilities while also getting funding for their own (Rule 42 covered) facilities is having his cake and eating it too?
The GAA cannot credibly hold rule 42 and involve itself in municipal facilities. Its totally illogical.
A delegation is meeting Fingal CC to demand access to their new soccer facilty in Lusk. The same basic question has to be raised again. If the GAA have a compelling need for a 5,000 capacity stadium in Lusk, why have they never made any move to build one? Why wait till soccer get a project going before deciding that its needed?
This aggressive tone with the Government from the higher echelons of the association is entirely counterproductive.
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 11:04:53 AM
So you don't think his comments that the GAA expect to be included in municipal facilities while also getting funding for their own (Rule 42 covered) facilities is having his cake and eating it too?
No, I don't. The existence of Rule 42 is well-known, and is surely taken into account to some extent when GAA units apply for public funding. If Rule 42 was some sort of hidden secret, I might agree with you.
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 11:04:53 AM
The GAA cannot credibly hold rule 42 and involve itself in municipal facilities. Its totally illogical.
I disagree. All sports benefit to some extent from municipal facilities at local level. Why should the GAA be excluded from such amenities? And sometimes it works the other way - for example GAA clubs allowing county councils to rent sites free of charge for the installation of public playgrounds.
Quote from: cornafean on March 25, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
I disagree. All sports benefit to some extent from municipal facilities at local level. Why should the GAA be excluded from such amenities? And sometimes it works the other way - for example GAA clubs allowing county councils to rent sites free of charge for the installation of public playgrounds.
Because the GAA excludes other sports from their amenities. We can't cherry pick here. We either share with other sports in a partnership approach or we don't.
Why are the GAA targetting municipal facilities now? There are thousands of them all over the land and no interest was shown? Whats wrong with letting soccer get their funding and we get ours and best of luck to them?
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 11:53:36 AM
Quote from: cornafean on March 25, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
I disagree. All sports benefit to some extent from municipal facilities at local level. Why should the GAA be excluded from such amenities? And sometimes it works the other way - for example GAA clubs allowing county councils to rent sites free of charge for the installation of public playgrounds.
Because the GAA excludes other sports from their amenities. We can't cherry pick here. We either share with other sports in a partnership approach or we don't.
Why are the GAA targetting municipal facilities now? There are thousands of them all over the land and no interest was shown? Whats wrong with letting soccer get their funding and we get ours and best of luck to them?
How may GAA teams play in LOI grounds owned by the teams and not the taxpayer?
None, and they aren't seeking to. This is a
Municipal facility. Go figure.
Duffy's comments are welcome and correct. The government totally shafted the GAA by providing a fully funded stadium for the exclusive use of an entity that has failed financially on several occasions. It's done and dusted now but must not be let happen again. We have not forgotten.
As for this:
QuoteThe GAA cannot credibly hold rule 42 and involve itself in municipal facilities. Its totally illogical.
What have Non-Affiliated Bodies got to do with this? Illogical indeed. ::)
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 25, 2009, 01:06:08 PM
Duffy's comments are welcome and correct. The government totally shafted the GAA by providing a fully funded stadium for the exclusive use of an entity that has failed financially on several occasions. It's done and dusted now but must not be let happen again. We have not forgotten.
It wasn't fully funded by the Government though....
Pairc Ui Caoimh is on public land. Locigally, other sports have been totally shafted by their exclusion from it?
Anyway, that debate is over and done with. Can I take it you support the GAA taking an identical campaign to the one they lost last year with another Dublin County Council? Do you mind me asking what you think that will achieve?
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 25, 2009, 01:06:08 PM
What have Non-Affiliated Bodies got to do with this? Illogical indeed. ::)
I think thats their point. What has an agreement between the FAI and local authorites got to do with the GAA?
Is there any need for a GAA facility in Lusk? If not, this is bottom feeding opportunism and if so, why has no-one in the GAA done anythign to get it up and running themselves?
Quote from: thebandit on March 25, 2009, 12:45:57 PM
How may GAA teams play in LOI grounds owned by the teams and not the taxpayer?
None, and they aren't seeking to. This is a Municipal facility. Go figure.
Since when did municipal = multi sport.
Hundreds of municipal facilities up and down the land and the GAA only objects to the two soccer ones. Go figure yourself....
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 01:11:09 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 25, 2009, 01:06:08 PM
Duffy's comments are welcome and correct. The government totally shafted the GAA by providing a fully funded stadium for the exclusive use of an entity that has failed financially on several occasions. It's done and dusted now but must not be let happen again. We have not forgotten.
It wasn't fully funded by the Government though....
Pairc Ui Caoimh is on public land. Locigally, other sports have been totally shafted by their exclusion from it?
Anyway, that debate is over and done with. Can I take it you support the GAA taking an identical campaign to the one they lost last year with another Dublin County Council? Do you mind me asking what you think that will achieve?
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 25, 2009, 01:06:08 PM
What have Non-Affiliated Bodies got to do with this? Illogical indeed. ::)
I think thats their point. What has an agreement between the FAI and local authorites got to do with the GAA?
Is there any need for a GAA facility in Lusk? If not, this is bottom feeding opportunism and if so, why has no-one in the GAA done anythign to get it up and running themselves?
Was there a need for one in Tallaght? Yes but Shamrock Rovers feared it and I suppose when you've gone out of business so many times and have been homeless for about 20 thats understandable. Not right though.
To answer your question - the more GAA facilities there are in Dublin the better.
How do you access the GAA Annual report ?? Can we get a copy from HQ or what ??
Quote from: orangeman on March 25, 2009, 02:07:30 PM
How do you access the GAA Annual report ?? Can we get a copy from HQ or what ??
On the GAA website
The Lusk proposal is in my neck of the woods. This has been on the cards for a long time and has recently been given the go ahead.
Fingal Sports Complex
- indoor full-size football pitch with seating for 400 people
- ancillary building with changing rooms, gym, lecture hall, meeting rooms, cafeteria
- 2 full-size outdoor football pitches with floodlighting, temporary stand for 560 people and permanent covered stand for 4200 people with a ground keepers store and sanitary facilities under the stand
- parking for 200 cars and 10 coaches (overflow car park for 700 cars)
The drawings I saw of the proposal had the pitches marked as soccer pitches.
I hadn't copped that it was going to be the home ground of Sporting Fingal.
The main outdoor pitch with the covered stand and floodlights is proposed to be 106m x 70m
Edit: GAA pitches need to be between 130m and 145m long and 80m to 90m wide. So I don't think you'd fit a GAA pitch in there.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 25, 2009, 02:05:36 PM
Was there a need for one in Tallaght? Yes but Shamrock Rovers feared it and I suppose when you've gone out of business so many times and have been homeless for about 20 thats understandable. Not right though.
They always indicated a willingness to share, and negotiated with the DCB at one point, but they couldn't escape the laws of physics. A GAA pitch on that site would have reduced capacity to 1,500, which would have been too small for Rovers or Dublin and ensured that the SDCC never made money off the facilty.
People within the GAA are trying to paint this as an ideological snub from the same government that have granted the association over €1bn.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 25, 2009, 02:05:36 PMTo answer your question - the more GAA facilities there are in Dublin the better.
100% agree. Now could the DCB get off their pampered holes and start providing them?
Waiting until soccer gets its act together and then trying to muscle in is no way to run a sport.
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 02:47:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 25, 2009, 02:05:36 PM
Was there a need for one in Tallaght? Yes but Shamrock Rovers feared it and I suppose when you've gone out of business so many times and have been homeless for about 20 thats understandable. Not right though.
They always indicated a willingness to share, and negotiated with the DCB at one point, but they couldn't escape the laws of physics. A GAA pitch on that site would have reduced capacity to 1,500, which would have been too small for Rovers or Dublin and ensured that the SDCC never made money off the facilty.
People within the GAA are trying to paint this as an ideological snub from the same government that have granted the association over €1bn.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 25, 2009, 02:05:36 PMTo answer your question - the more GAA facilities there are in Dublin the better.
100% agree. Now could the DCB get off their pampered holes and start providing them?
Waiting until soccer gets its act together and then trying to muscle in is no way to run a sport.
I knew I shouldn't get involved and when I see this kind of laughable stuff I regret ever posting on this thread.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 25, 2009, 03:02:02 PM
I knew I shouldn't get involved and when I see this kind of laughable stuff I regret ever posting on this thread.
So the GAA aren't sending a delegation to try and get included in a soccer facility that has already received PP as per Hounds post?
Why did they not request this meeting 6 months ago when they might have had a chance?
No doubt when they inevitibly are turned down, this is another snub and the recriminations will start. I wonder who the lucky club in Lusk/Rush/Balbriggan who get to sue Fingal CC are?
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 10:20:23 AM
Quote from: ludermor on March 25, 2009, 10:05:35 AM
Dublinfella,
How do you reckon the Kerry game will go? Will you be attending the match?
I will and am not confident.
What do you think of the DG's re-opening of old wounds?
I have absolutely no opinion it
I hope you will be sharing your opinion of the game here after the match?
Quote from: ludermor on March 25, 2009, 03:47:37 PM
I have absolutely no opinion it
I hope you will be sharing your opinion of the game here after the match?
So what exactly is your contribution here?
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 02:47:00 PM
the same government that have granted the association over €1bn.
This couldn't be correct, unless of course the €1bn includes lottery fund allocations, which is not government funding.
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 03:52:38 PM
Quote from: ludermor on March 25, 2009, 03:47:37 PM
I have absolutely no opinion it
I hope you will be sharing your opinion of the game here after the match?
So what exactly is your contribution here?
A question that has been asked of you for ages but you wont answer!
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 25, 2009, 03:02:02 PM
I knew I shouldn't get involved and when I see this kind of laughable stuff I regret ever posting on this thread.
ha ha, one of these days you'll learn Seanie!
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 01:12:30 PM
Quote from: thebandit on March 25, 2009, 12:45:57 PM
How may GAA teams play in LOI grounds owned by the teams and not the taxpayer?
None, and they aren't seeking to. This is a Municipal facility. Go figure.
Since when did municipal = multi sport.
Hundreds of municipal facilities up and down the land and the GAA only objects to the two soccer ones. Go figure yourself....
The GAA sought to be involved in this project at a much earlier stage as well you know, long before any objection to a planning process.
Now stop trying to antagonise people with half-stories, there's a good man.
Quote from: thebandit on March 25, 2009, 04:31:00 PM
The GAA sought to be involved in this project at a much earlier stage as well you know, long before any objection to a planning process.
Now stop trying to antagonise people with half-stories, there's a good man.
But my entire point is that the GAA in Dublin has ONLY sought to be involved in soccer facilities in the past 15 years.
If you think that following soccer around and lobbying politicians to have planning changed to force the GAA into projects is good enough, well I simply give up.
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: thebandit on March 25, 2009, 04:31:00 PM
The GAA sought to be involved in this project at a much earlier stage as well you know, long before any objection to a planning process.
Now stop trying to antagonise people with half-stories, there's a good man.
But my entire point is that the GAA in Dublin has ONLY sought to be involved in soccer facilities in the past 15 years.
If you think that following soccer around and lobbying politicians to have planning changed to force the GAA into projects is good enough, well I simply give up.
:D So you agree that municipal might as well = soccer at the minute, at least we agree on something...
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 25, 2009, 05:13:34 PM
:D So you agree that municipal might as well = soccer at the minute, at least we agree on something...
Thats gas, because I went for a swim in a municipal pool just last night. A few weekends ago I had a round out in Corballis, a fantastic municipal golf course. When the summer comes I might go and catch the track and field at any one of a dozen municipal athletics facilities.
Will I go on?
Have the GAA approached any local authority with a plan of their own? When you answer that....
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 05:22:50 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 25, 2009, 05:13:34 PM
:D So you agree that municipal might as well = soccer at the minute, at least we agree on something...
Thats gas, because I went for a swim in a municipal pool just last night. A few weekends ago I had a round out in Corballis, a fantastic municipal golf course. When the summer comes I might go and catch the track and field at any one of a dozen municipal athletics facilities.
Will I go on?
Have the GAA approached any local authority with a plan of their own? When you answer that....
That's great RF, but it would be fierce hard to hurl in a swimming pool
Quote from: thebandit on March 25, 2009, 05:39:25 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 05:22:50 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 25, 2009, 05:13:34 PM
:D So you agree that municipal might as well = soccer at the minute, at least we agree on something...
Thats gas, because I went for a swim in a municipal pool just last night. A few weekends ago I had a round out in Corballis, a fantastic municipal golf course. When the summer comes I might go and catch the track and field at any one of a dozen municipal athletics facilities.
Will I go on?
Have the GAA approached any local authority with a plan of their own? When you answer that....
That's great RF, but it would be fierce hard to hurl in a swimming pool
:D Well they do have underwater polo, maybe we could introduce underwater hurling... :P
DF you seem to be implying that the GAA are trying to scupper plans that the government has in relation to soccer, this isn't the case IMO nor is there any evidence to suggest it is. Has any government built the following for rugby or the GAA in a major population centre.....
QuoteFingal Sports Complex
- indoor full-size football pitch with seating for 400 people
- ancillary building with changing rooms, gym, lecture hall, meeting rooms, cafeteria
- 2 full-size outdoor football pitches with floodlighting, temporary stand for 560 people and permanent covered stand for 4200 people with a ground keepers store and sanitary facilities under the stand
- parking for 200 cars and 10 coaches (overflow car park for 700 cars)
Soccer, rugby and GAA clubs all benefit from government/lotto funding if they apply for it but it seems to me only soccer are getting top class facilities in Dublin built by the government, am I wrong?
Quote from: dublinfella on March 25, 2009, 01:11:09 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 25, 2009, 01:06:08 PM
Duffy's comments are welcome and correct. The government totally shafted the GAA by providing a fully funded stadium for the exclusive use of an entity that has failed financially on several occasions. It's done and dusted now but must not be let happen again. We have not forgotten.
It wasn't fully funded by the Government though....
You're right there -- I heard from a reliable cource that the Sth Dublin Council diverted about €4m funds from other purposes to fill some of the black hole in their Finances caused by this monosport monoclub "municipal " Stadium .
Total cost will be about 13m -- Govt Grants approved of about €3m, rumours that another €3m will be provided by a bankrupt Government to pay for another stand. 7m to come from where exactly? At a time when the Govt has told Councils to stop all road works.
All to subsidise a freeloading shower of *******s.
Built on time says Shamfella --- started 1999 didnt it ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: thebandit on March 25, 2009, 05:39:25 PM
That's great RF, but it would be fierce hard to hurl in a swimming pool
exactly. not all municpal facilities are appropriate for all sports. now will you tell Duffy or will I?
Quote from: Zulu on March 25, 2009, 05:58:23 PM
DF you seem to be implying that the GAA are trying to scupper plans that the government has in relation to soccer, this isn't the case IMO nor is there any evidence to suggest it is. Has any government built the following for rugby or the GAA in a major population centre.....
Of all the four major soccer projects underway in Dublin at the moment, Landsdowne Road, Tallaght, Lusk and Abbotstown the GAA have to varying degrees tried to get involved at no cost to themselves.
Over the same timeframe how many stadium projects have the DCB initiated or existing grounds they sought to improve? Not one.
Quote from: Zulu on March 25, 2009, 05:58:23 PM
Soccer, rugby and GAA clubs all benefit from government/lotto funding if they apply for it but it seems to me only soccer are getting top class facilities in Dublin built by the government, am I wrong?
And I repeat, have the GAA approached any local authority anywhere with a plan? No. Instead they send delegations to the council after the bulldozers move in to try and get soccer plans altered.
Soccer asks nicely, soccer gets. GAA complains about soccer and sues, GAA gets f**k all. Is it that hard to follow this pattern?
Its a failure of leadership from the GAA in Dublin.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 25, 2009, 06:12:11 PM
You're right there -- I heard from a reliable cource that the Sth Dublin Council diverted about €4m funds from other purposes to fill some of the black hole in their Finances caused by this monosport monoclub "municipal " Stadium .
Total cost will be about 13m -- Govt Grants approved of about €3m, rumours that another €3m will be provided by a bankrupt Government to pay for another stand. 7m to come from where exactly? At a time when the Govt has told Councils to stop all road works.
All to subsidise a freeloading shower of *******s.
Built on time says Shamfella --- started 1999 didnt it ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
SDCC have not put one cent into the facility. The dept are funding it.
If you are going to lie, make it almost accurate.
Shambollocks -- please stop telling lies and then accusing others !!!.
Sth Dublin Council paid €1.5m to get their own land back -- fact -try a Freedom of Info request to S D Council.
S D Council took €4m from their Parkland Development Fund to fill some of the black hole they face from this free gift to Spongerock Rovers. Ditto re Freedom of Info request.
Obviously the now broke Government have no intention or money to give the Council the full €13m they need .
The FAI will hardly fund it ;D ;D ;D ;D
Heard a bit more news on the Lusk facility, from a lad who claims to be a reliable source!
As mentioned, the two outdoor pitches are not big enough for adult GAA, but juvenile GAA and rugby can be played on them.
As part of the overall deal, there was some class of a deal with the Council that gave Round Towers Lusk GAA club additional land bordering their existing land.