Carlton key-position player Setanta O'hAilpin could be sacked by the Blues after kicking and punching teammate Cameron Cloke during an intra-club match today.
Blues coach Brett Ratten refused to rule out the possibility of the club tearing up the Irishman's contract following the sensational off-the-ball incident during the third quarter of the match at Princes Park.
O'hAilpin struck Cloke with a left fist to the head and then kicked the ruckman while he lay on the ground.
"Reflecting on what has happened it's not part of our game," said Ratten.
"We'll sit down with Setanta and work through that.
"We'll look at it as it's a poor act.
"I think in practice matches, you go through history and training in general, there's all the argy-bargy and ... things like that.
"But that is not part of our game.
"(Setanta) has gone home and we'll give him time to cool off and have a think about his actions.
"And we'll take it up this afternoon."
When asked whether the incident could prompt Carlton to sack O'hAilpin, Ratten replied: "We'll have to sit down and talk about all the issues."
The match was held up for 15 minutes as both players were taken from the field, with Cloke being examined by the club's medical staff.
Neither player returned to the action and the game was stopped at the end of the third quarter.
As the intra-club match was being officiated by AFL umpires, O'hAilpin could be reported for the incident.
In further bad news for the Blues, defender Andrew Carrazzo suffered a left arm injury.
O'hAilpin, 24, who was a hurling star in Ireland, has played 46 games in four seasons for the Blues.
AAP
Any reports or news on what prompted it?
Watch it here
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25016325-19742,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25016325-19742,00.html)
Didnt seem to be much provocation. He hits him a decent dig and then a fair boot to the balls/up the hole as hes on the deck!!
The players were scuffling late in the third quarter when the notoriously temperamental O'hAilpin cut loose.
First he threw a left-handed roundhouse at Cloke, dropping him, and then struck out with his right boot.
The match was held up for 15 minutes as both players were taken from the field, with Cloke being examined by the club's medical staff.
O'hAilpin was sent off the ground by club leader Brendan Fevola, with captain Chris Judd then advising him to return home to cool his heels.
Neither player returned to the action and the game was stopped at the end of the third quarter.
Cloke left the ground afterwards without comment, having suffered a cut eye in the incident.
The incident compounded an already disappointing intra-club match with best and fairest-winning midfielder Andrew Carrazzo leaving the ground with what is believed to be a serious left-arm injury.
O'hAilpin has been known to tangle with his teammates at training but kicking a player, especially a teammate, is seen as one of football's lowest acts.
Cloke left the ground shaken and was assessed by doctors for what seemed a bruise on his right eyebrow and took no part in the game.
Surrounded by media post-match, he would say only that he was fine and was unwilling to discuss the issue.
This disrupts what was shaping as a perfect preseason for Carlton with captain Chris Judd in perfect condition and Brendan Fevola earlier kicking a goal in a solid performance.
Interesting angles on O'Hailpin.
A guy on the telly here just said that Setanta was not good enough to be allowed to get away with this and that it would be no suprise if his contract was torn up. I don't think it'll get to that to be honest.
Rightly so IMO. Its not the punch really, but the kick afterwards. Its not a hard boot, but its a seriously cheap shot. Seems like he takes the time to think about it and then goes - "right, ya **** - here you go"
Id not be happy playing alongside some fella that thought they could kick me when Im on the deck.
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Btw, I like the alliteration
It was a cheap shot - I suspect there was something said while they were on the ground that sparked a fuse
Going to need Frank Murphy to sort this one out!
Nice left hook all the same!
Ahhh... I thought it was a tongue-twister when I read the subject line.
Talk about cutting ties with Australia, wont be long before they're all come/sent home
SOH in big trouble imo. Not a "big" enough player to get away with this. Aussie Rules operates on a loose type of "mateship" code of conduct which he breached big time with the kicking of a teammate on the ground. The punch would have probably got him fined only but the cheap shot kick............ not good. However if he was a class AFL player then he would probably be suspended and sent to "Anger Classes".
Feel vey sorry for the lad as the Melbourne papers/media/radio talkshows will thrive on the story.
appalling aliteration abhorrent always ;D
Don't think there was a big pile in it, the other man hit the deck like a sack of sh*te. He was happy enough to try and get the upper hand on SOH so he can't have much complaints.
Lads at this rate I don't think many AFL clubs will be experimenting with Irish players in the near future.
Just shows ya what playing in Oz does to ya before he went over santa would never do such an act ;) He has turned into some size of a man wouldn't fancy getting an uppercut from him
Quote from: Jinxy on February 06, 2009, 10:21:52 AM
Lads at this rate I don't think many AFL clubs will be experimenting with Irish players in the near future.
Come home agent Ó hAilpín, your assignment is complete.
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 06, 2009, 10:16:51 AM
Don't think there was a big pile in it, the other man hit the deck like a sack of sh*te. He was happy enough to try and get the upper hand on SOH so he can't have much complaints.
Don't agree with that. There was no need for the kick.
the kick up the hole is so Cork though isn't it. Petty.
It must have been a paid phone line from Cork when Sean Og was telling him about "strike" & "footballers".
Completely misunderstood.
Sea Og has said he will go on strike if disciplinary action is taken against Setanta.
Quote from: corn02 on February 06, 2009, 10:35:13 AM
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 06, 2009, 10:16:51 AM
Don't think there was a big pile in it, the other man hit the deck like a sack of sh*te. He was happy enough to try and get the upper hand on SOH so he can't have much complaints.
Don't agree with that. There was no need for the kick.
If the other boys willing to act the maggot then he has to take the consequences. It was hardly a drive of a boot, more a dig letting him know not to act the big man again. Don't get me wrong i don't condone driving a boot into some man on the ground, but i don't think this kick was there to cause damage, more frustration i would guess. Just don't think SOH is the only guilty party here.
The "don't kick a man when he's down" is taken too seriously.
Nothing better after you have decked an annoying adversary than to stand over and press home the final humiliation.
Is it true Setanta shouted
"Take that you cxnt" ?
Kicking is deemed one of the lowest acts in sport - you can beat the life out of an opponent with your fists, but kicking is a no no.
It was only a kick in the hole. When I read he kicked him on the ground I was thinking maybe it was serious like a kick in the ribs or head, but c'mon it was only a kick in the arse. The punch would have done way more damage to the Cloke fella.
A Father Ted kick up the arse ! ;) ;)
I saw it as more a kick to the balls, while he was on the gorund - which is pretty distasteful
Quote from: orangeman on February 06, 2009, 11:16:52 AM
Kicking is deemed one of the lowest acts in sport - you can beat the life out of an opponent with your fists, but kicking is a no no.
It's especially the case in Aussie Rules. Kicking a man in that game is seen as way, way worse than a thump. The fact that the man is on the ground compounds it. The Aussies go big in for the camaraderie thing and this was a clear violation of any of that. Setanta will be let go, I've very little doubt about that.
So the big question - will he join up with provisional Cork squad or the continuity one??
Any hurling prowess is long gone. Aisake is out with the footballers I'd say Setanta will join him. He's gone after that. Kicking is seen as sacrilege in Aussie Rules. And he's not a big enough profile player to get away with it thats his biggest problem.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on February 06, 2009, 11:30:36 AM
Quote from: orangeman on February 06, 2009, 11:16:52 AM
Kicking is deemed one of the lowest acts in sport - you can beat the life out of an opponent with your fists, but kicking is a no no.
It's especially the case in Aussie Rules. Kicking a man in that game is seen as way, way worse than a thump. The fact that the man is on the ground compounds it. The Aussies go big in for the camaraderie thing and this was a clear violation of any of that. Setanta will be let go, I've very little doubt about that.
So the big question - will he join up with provisional Cork squad or the continuity one??
I don't think he'll get the bullet
Quote from: stephenite on February 06, 2009, 11:44:18 AM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on February 06, 2009, 11:30:36 AM
Quote from: orangeman on February 06, 2009, 11:16:52 AM
Kicking is deemed one of the lowest acts in sport - you can beat the life out of an opponent with your fists, but kicking is a no no.
It's especially the case in Aussie Rules. Kicking a man in that game is seen as way, way worse than a thump. The fact that the man is on the ground compounds it. The Aussies go big in for the camaraderie thing and this was a clear violation of any of that. Setanta will be let go, I've very little doubt about that.
So the big question - will he join up with provisional Cork squad or the continuity one??
I don't think he'll get the bullet
No? I'd be shocked if he doesn't. He's only a bit-part and even if someone high profile did this there'd be calls for his removal. Much might depend on previous cases and reading that he has a notoriously short temper won't help things. Also the manner of the kick - the way he thought about it for a second or two before doing it - makes the action look a lot more vindictive than just 'a moment of madness'.
Quote from: INDIANA on February 06, 2009, 11:38:11 AM
Any hurling prowess is long gone. Aisake is out with the footballers I'd say Setanta will join him. He's gone after that. Kicking is seen as sacrilege in Aussie Rules. And he's not a big enough profile player to get away with it thats his biggest problem.
Yeah it's gas.
Knocking people out cold with a clothesline is quite alright though.
They are such a manly bunch.
I blame that fcuker Kennelly, such an exemplary and polished professional, and giving us all an impossibly good name!
almost 40 pages about it on Big-footie! Most of them reckon he's finished.
Is he doing well over there anyway i.e. is he any good?
if you watch the full coverage and see cloke getting up - he doesnt look too happy and he doesnt look like a midget either.
Quote from: thejuice on February 06, 2009, 11:21:40 AM
It was only a kick in the hole. When I read he kicked him on the ground I was thinking maybe it was serious like a kick in the ribs or head, but c'mon it was only a kick in the arse. The punch would have done way more damage to the Cloke fella.
He should have teabagged him
I honestly dont see the problem with this, OK putting the boot in when he was on the ground was uncalled for but these types of situations happen all the time in professional sport. Id say there are a right few bust ups in the rugby scene just never make the light of day.
If the guy had done the reversal we would have been saying he is too light for that game and cant hack and should come home. I dont see alot wrong with him flexing his muscles and putting an aussie back in his box too often it has been the other way around in our recent sporting past. And as for the aussies calling for his contract to be terminated then wise up!
(PS Im not anO'Hailpin family Fan)
Its the kick that did the damage (not to Cloke but to Setanta) Its a big no no in Oz.
AlsoThe Age (Ms Wilson - a right harpie) are hinting that there are domestic problems home in Cork and that the lads are estranged from their parents. Of course with the standrad of journalism in Australia this could be all tabloid nonsense.
Quote from: zoyler on February 06, 2009, 03:36:54 PM
Its the kick that did the damage (not to Cloke but to Setanta) Its a big no no in Oz.
AlsoThe Age (Ms Wilson - a right harpie) are hinting that there are domestic problems home in Cork and that the lads are estranged from their parents. Of course with the standrad of journalism in Australia this could be all tabloid nonsense.
Being from Cork, in itself, is enough background cause for irrational prima donna behaviour, no need to dig deeper.
As long as it is an Aussie lying on the ground and an Irishman standing tall, I´m okay with a toepoke up the arse for humiliating effect.
Now spitting, that's a low
I can't actually access the video and when I do it may change things but as has been mentioned here it appears to not be a particularly hard kick (nether regions or not).
In hurling last year Tom Kenny flicked Cha Fitz in the nether regions. He was widely villified at the time and rightly so. He was looked at as a hard tough hurler who to that date (as far as I am aware) had a decent record. It is forgotten now.
He did this in Croke Park in front of a huge live and TV audience.
There is some importance behind the Oz "no kicking" thing but in my opinion it can be taken too far. You are allowed to run full pelt at someone and stick your shoulder in their face. You are allowed to swing as many haymakers as you like (Barry "Lets get ready to rumble" Hall springs to mind) but as soon as you raise a boot then that's it. Career over, get out of there, pack your bags. Does that actually make sense?! Is it not hypocritical on any level?
It was a training ground incident that should be kept there and the circumstances reviewed internally. One of the things I read about it stated that it might cause an issue with Carlton, whose pre-season has been so good to date. If this derails their efforts then they need to have a look at themselves. If they are a good club with a good history they deal with this in house, find out the full circumstances, fine SOH and if the other player is to blame in any way him as well. Make a statement and get SOH to make an apology and move on.
I like the cameradie among the Aussie rules boys. It is there to see and having trained with a team a few times in oz I saw it first hand.
It may set SOH back with teammates and the public but to ruin his career for this then that in my book is just wrong. His previous conduct should be looked at.
If he was not up to scratch on a playing level they may use this as an opportunity to get rid of him...if so that is a shame.
No offence by this (I don't think) is meant but I detest that macho bully-boy behaviour that can come out in Australian fans and sportsmen. It wreaks of having a chip on their shoulder and given the general success of their athletes and the provisions made for them in their country re sport it doesn't sit easily with me.
Shouldn't this be in the - General Discussion section?
Quote from: Zapatista on February 06, 2009, 04:53:47 PM
Shouldn't this be in the - General Discussion section?
Are you saying that subconsciously
stephenite believes the GAA and AFL to be one and the same? Strewth! ;)
Edit To elucidate :-
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=6748.285
I especially like this bit:
Quote from: stephenite on December 09, 2008, 11:29:17 PM
Rubbish - the notion that relations with the AFL lend a legitimacy as something of a stablemate is utter bullshit, the notion that cutting off those relations would lead to young players being less inclined to try their hand at AFL is utter bullshit. The notion that the lines are currently blurred is utter bullshit.
:D
giving someone a wee tap on the ground is deemed a big no no, yet Close-lining an opponent and 3 or 4 players holding onto 1 while another punches like the International Rules is the way of the Aussies.
Cowards who pick on those smaller than them,
Good on ya Setanta,just a pity you hadnt to knock Brendan Favola out when you were at it.
Looking forward to you playing for Cork this year(strike permitting)
roy keane, michael collins, stephen ireland, cork hurlers, cork footballers, setanta o'hAilpin... the list just goes on. langerland is a dicy place
all deprived of the bottle as babies I'd say.
if he gets sent home will cork players boycott international rules in support of their fellow cty man,this could be another row for them toget donal og &coi nvoved in ;)
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 06, 2009, 05:04:46 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on February 06, 2009, 04:53:47 PM
Shouldn't this be in the - General Discussion section?
Are you saying that subconsciously stephenite believes the GAA and AFL to be one and the same? Strewth! ;)
Edit To elucidate :-
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=6748.285
I especially like this bit:
Quote from: stephenite on December 09, 2008, 11:29:17 PM
Rubbish - the notion that relations with the AFL lend a legitimacy as something of a stablemate is utter bullshit, the notion that cutting off those relations would lead to young players being less inclined to try their hand at AFL is utter bullshit. The notion that the lines are currently blurred is utter bullshit.
:D
But Michaela, this thread doesn't alter anything that I wrote on that thread. The SOH incident might stop AFL clubs from recruiting GAA players (I doubt it) but it won't stop young players from wanting to be full time professional athletes.
A point you can't seem to get your mystic little head around
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 06, 2009, 10:55:37 AM
Quote from: corn02 on February 06, 2009, 10:35:13 AM
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 06, 2009, 10:16:51 AM
Don't think there was a big pile in it, the other man hit the deck like a sack of sh*te. He was happy enough to try and get the upper hand on SOH so he can't have much complaints.
Don't agree with that. There was no need for the kick.
If the other boys willing to act the maggot then he has to take the consequences. It was hardly a drive of a boot, more a dig letting him know not to act the big man again. Don't get me wrong i don't condone driving a boot into some man on the ground, but i don't think this kick was there to cause damage, more frustration i would guess. Just don't think SOH is the only guilty party here.
I looked at it again - it was a fair old kick.
Ah the pure wee Aussie! Them Down-under lads are all big cry-babies. There was was nothing in that. Sure you'd see worse in a school playground anywhere in Ireland! ;)
Just saw the footage on TV3, having finished watching Eamon Dunphy tearing up at the thought of the childer in the recession on the Late Late. Christ, it's some night in, this.
Setanta's been sent for anger management classes and I reckon that'll be the end of it. The Aussie media seemed to be milking it for all they're worth but the players themselves seemed to find it funny enough.
As I do myself, to be honest with you. A shoe in the hole might be long overdue for that fella. If any of them Aussies are picking on you beyond Stephenite, I hope you give as good as you get! :D
Quote from: magickingdom on February 06, 2009, 08:59:37 PM
roy keane, michael collins, stephen ireland, cork hurlers, cork footballers, setanta o'hAilpin... the list just goes on. langerland is a dicy place
Feckin' animals.
Quote from: bingobus on February 06, 2009, 10:45:39 AM
It must have been a paid phone line from Cork when Sean Og was telling him about "strike" & "footballers".
Completely misunderstood.
EXCELLENT!!!!!
Well I for one will stand up for Setanta, according to the Herald Sun, that Cloke gave him a back-hander to the throat to start it. He was looking for trouble and he got it. Its simply a case of blame the foreigner as is common here in Australia, look at Andrew Synmonds the cricketer and his ant-Kiwi player racist rant. Had to laugh at the pictures in the H.Sun of Brendan Fevola trying to hold Setanta back, thats the same Saint Fevola who hammered the crap out a barman in the Imperial Hotel in Galway's Eyre Square after the Pearse Stadium International Rules game a few years back. In my opinion the punch was far worse than the kick, but because the Aussies throw a punch every five minutes thats not the bit thats being highlighted because it would implicate all the AFL & most Australian sportsmen as being thugs. They had a cyclist who missed the olympics because he bate the crap out of somone, they have another sportstar in trouble, who had previously been tried for glassing his girlfriend. Barry Hall last year was only considered a thug after decking a few Aussies, but when he decked Irish he was just pasionate. Well I for one hope the Irish experiement is nearly over. Its great to see the Americans looking to take Aussie Rules players to America as place kickers after the success of one getting to the semi-final & another played for the Cardinals in the Superbowl. I hope that the AFL get a taste of their own medicine from the Yanks.
Just watched it there. I'm all up for a few digs when things get heated but kicking a man when he is on the ground is just sc**bag behavior!
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 06, 2009, 05:04:46 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on February 06, 2009, 04:53:47 PM
Shouldn't this be in the - General Discussion section?
Are you saying that subconsciously stephenite believes the GAA and AFL to be one and the same? Strewth! ;)
NOt at all. I'd say it's being done consciously.
Quote from: Son_of_Sam on February 07, 2009, 12:36:33 AM
Well I for one will stand up for Setanta, according to the Herald Sun, that Cloke gave him a back-hander to the throat to start it. He was looking for trouble and he got it. Its simply a case of blame the foreigner as is common here in Australia, look at Andrew Synmonds the cricketer and his ant-Kiwi player racist rant. Had to laugh at the pictures in the H.Sun of Brendan Fevola trying to hold Setanta back, thats the same Saint Fevola who hammered the crap out a barman in the Imperial Hotel in Galway's Eyre Square after the Pearse Stadium International Rules game a few years back. In my opinion the punch was far worse than the kick, but because the Aussies throw a punch every five minutes thats not the bit thats being highlighted because it would implicate all the AFL & most Australian sportsmen as being thugs. They had a cyclist who missed the olympics because he bate the crap out of somone, they have another sportstar in trouble, who had previously been tried for glassing his girlfriend. Barry Hall last year was only considered a thug after decking a few Aussies, but when he decked Irish he was just pasionate. Well I for one hope the Irish experiement is nearly over. Its great to see the Americans looking to take Aussie Rules players to America as place kickers after the success of one getting to the semi-final & another played for the Cardinals in the Superbowl. I hope that the AFL get a taste of their own medicine from the Yanks.
Well in your opinion punching maybe worse than kicking but in Australia kicking is seen as the lowest thing you can do but hey if hte Irish think its ok then they should think just like us....and the Aussies have no problem wiht guys going to America as kickers either...
Who gives a f*ck what the aussies think?
Are we honestly to believe that in the grand scheme of things, giving a lad a toe up the hole is worse than clothes-lining a player running at full speed unable to protect himself?
Quote from: stephenite on February 06, 2009, 11:13:53 PM
But Michaela, this thread doesn't alter anything that I wrote on that thread. The SOH incident might stop AFL clubs from recruiting GAA players (I doubt it) but it won't stop young players from wanting to be full time professional athletes.
A point you can't seem to get your mystic little head around
You post in the wrong section, confusing the AFL with the GAA, and it's something I can't get my head around. Hmmm....
Quote from: Tankie on February 07, 2009, 01:45:29 AM
Just watched it there. I'm all up for a few digs when things get heated but kicking a man when he is on the ground is just sc**bag behavior!
behavio
Ur ;) please.
I dont get it. Its nothing you wouldnt see at county training. Yer Aussie mans attack on Pip Jordan would be far worse.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 07, 2009, 05:04:36 PM
Quote from: stephenite on February 06, 2009, 11:13:53 PM
But Michaela, this thread doesn't alter anything that I wrote on that thread. The SOH incident might stop AFL clubs from recruiting GAA players (I doubt it) but it won't stop young players from wanting to be full time professional athletes.
A point you can't seem to get your mystic little head around
You post in the wrong section, confusing the AFL with the GAA, and it's something I can't get my head around. Hmmm....
So the prospect of Setanta coming back to Cork and playing football this summer isn't GAA related - how so? The thread title states that contract cancellation is being considered - what are you not getting?
Quote from: Zapatista on February 07, 2009, 10:20:19 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 06, 2009, 05:04:46 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on February 06, 2009, 04:53:47 PM
Shouldn't this be in the - General Discussion section?
Are you saying that subconsciously stephenite believes the GAA and AFL to be one and the same? Strewth! ;)
NOt at all. I'd say it's being done consciously.
Same question to you then?
Quote from: stephenite on February 08, 2009, 09:58:58 PM
So the prospect of Setanta coming back to Cork and playing football this summer isn't GAA related - how so? The thread title states that contract cancellation is being considered - what are you not getting?
It was an AFL incident, in its entirety; until and when he returns to Cork GAA is another subject. Only if and when, and it remains pure non-GAA conjecture even if his contract is cancelled -- it's not a GAA subject.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 08, 2009, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: stephenite on February 08, 2009, 09:58:58 PM
So the prospect of Setanta coming back to Cork and playing football this summer isn't GAA related - how so? The thread title states that contract cancellation is being considered - what are you not getting?
It was an AFL incident, in its entirety; until and when he returns to Cork GAA is another subject. Only if and when, and it remains pure non-GAA conjecture even if his contract is cancelled -- it's not a GAA subject.
Well, normally when things are posted in the wrong forum, the mods move it. In this case, I, the mods and anyone who contributed to the over 5 pages of this thread with the exception of yourself and Zap, appear to agree with my opinion that even the possibility of contract cancellation would be worthy of a thread on the main board.
You obviously disagree with that opinion - fair enough, but using that in a miusguided fashion to dredge up a discussion from a long buried thread is just childish.
Quote from: stephenite on February 08, 2009, 10:20:14 PM
Well, normally when things are posted in the wrong forum, the mods move it. In this case, I, the mods and anyone who contributed to the over 5 pages of this thread with the exception of yourself and Zap, appear to agree with my opinion that even the possibility of contract cancellation would be worthy of a thread on the main board.
Well, I don't think either Zap or myself raised it with the Mods, so the chances of it being picked up are fairly non-existent since, as they (the Mods) concede, they don't routinely monitor.
Quote from: stephenite on February 08, 2009, 10:20:14 PM
You obviously disagree with that opinion - fair enough, but using that in a miusguided fashion to dredge up a discussion from a long buried thread is just childish.
OK, was just attempting to point up the frequent tendency to cross the GAA lines with the AFL... but I'll grow up.
Point taken - considering the frequency some of our GAA players cross lines to the AFL (Kennelly coming home, Hanley, Clarke playing club games in their off season, Setanta possibly coming home, Coney deciding to stay at home) well, it's little wonder the tendency is there.
Anger management classes! Sweet Christ Almighty! I'm losing the will to live in this world they're manufacturing for me.
Quote from: Hardy on February 09, 2009, 12:28:07 AM
Anger management classes! Sweet Christ Almighty! I'm losing the will to live in this world they're manufacturing for me.
I'm glad someone else knows how I feel.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25022244-661,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25022244-661,00.html)
The girlfriend is sticking up for him now.
Heard on the radio he got a 4 game suspension from AFL but still no confirmation from Carlton on what their ultimate sanction will be
Quote from: stephenite on February 08, 2009, 09:58:58 PM
So the prospect of Setanta coming back to Cork and playing football this summer isn't GAA related - how so? The thread title states that contract cancellation is being considered - what are you not getting?
Just pointing out that I think it is in the wrong section. No big deal. THe last 5 pages you talk about are not GAA related.
Quote from: Hardy on February 09, 2009, 12:28:07 AM
Anger management classes! Sweet Christ Almighty! I'm losing the will to live in this world they're manufacturing for me.
You above all people Hardy should know that there's nothing new under the sun. These sort of things have been going on under different guises for decades. I beileve in your own neck of the woods it was called county training.
:D