McKenna Cup 2024

[tiempo]

As long as Bonner gets his mileage allowance and meal ticket for going to watch the Sigerson games it'll all be grand.

[J70]

One would presume Bonner thought long and hard about which players he wanted to include in the McKenna Cup with a view to their potential as proper squad members. Naturally a lot of those lads are also going to be on college teams. Are you suggesting that he alter those plans and instead include non-college players he is less interested in on the off-chance that he might have a semi-final fixture to fulfill? It's a meaningless pre-season tournament, not the World Cup.

[rodney trotter]

Bonner already stated 13 are on Sigerson Duty. McGloone had a long year with his Club. Why would they flog him in Mckenna Cup.? McBrearty is away travelling and will miss the League. Jason Mc Gee will miss the league too, through injury. Oisin Gallen injured also .

So what?

Tyrone have similar numbers on Sigerson duty at the minute, as do Mayo, as do Galway etc.

The following players haven't featured yet for Tyrone - Harte, Hampsey, Cavanagh, Meyler, McNamee, R Donnelly, Bradley, HP McGeary.

Harry Loughran, Declan McClure and Mattie Donnelly are currently injured.

So that's about 20 players that Tyrone could be without this weekend, they will still field a team though.

It looks on the face of it to be amateurish from Bonner not to have a squad for this and embarrassing that he has thrown his toys out of the pram when he should have been planning for it.

Bonner requested that the Mckenna Cup game be moved to next Wednesday,  but Ulster Council refused.  It's a pre season competition, but it's run like its the All Ireland.

Bonner was more making a stance then anything else about fixture congestion. They just cram in games without much thought.

[bannside]

The big show in town is the Super 8s as it's being referred to. For other counties winning a properly marketed properly rewarded Tier 2 may also morph into a very worthwhile competition in due course. Maybe.

Take Donegal last year. Went full pelt to beat Tyrone in the Ulster cship and threw so much at the tank too early, petered out tamely in early August with a muted display in Castlebar when the rest of the big counties were only getting warmed up. You'll find they time things differently this year.

The NFL is a stepping stone to building a squad and a system of play for these competitions.

The Mc Kenna Cup is a couple of trumphed up friendlies that dont matter much except as a fundraiser for Ulster Council expenses. Donegal dont need it one iota at this stage. Theyve got the Anglo Celt there atm and its prestige is being eroded by the year in place of the big show, The Super 8s. One provincial competition will be enough per calendar year in the near future.

[J70]

Anyone remember, without looking it up, who won the McKenna Cup last year? Or who was in the final?

[Angelo]

One would presume Bonner thought long and hard about which players he wanted to include in the McKenna Cup with a view to their potential as proper squad members. Naturally a lot of those lads are also going to be on college teams. Are you suggesting that he alter those plans and include non-college players he is less interested in on the off-chance that he might have a semi-final fixture to fulfill? It's a meaningless pre-season tournament, not the World Cup.

The exact same as most counties but Donegal seem to be the only one unwilling to fulfill a fixture. He's made a big scene of throwing his toys out of the pram, if it's not the World Cup then why has he shown such overt displays of petulance?

[bannside]

What the hell are you on about? Bonnars done nothing wrong here. Give me one reason why Bonnar might have the remotest interest in fulfilling a fixture without any resemblance of his team to play Mayo in two weeks in a game that matters at least a little bit. Plus, its Murphy calling the shots here or at least trying too!

[J70]

One would presume Bonner thought long and hard about which players he wanted to include in the McKenna Cup with a view to their potential as proper squad members. Naturally a lot of those lads are also going to be on college teams. Are you suggesting that he alter those plans and include non-college players he is less interested in on the off-chance that he might have a semi-final fixture to fulfill? It's a meaningless pre-season tournament, not the World Cup.

The exact same as most counties but Donegal seem to be the only one unwilling to fulfill a fixture. He's made a big scene of throwing his toys out of the pram, if it's not the World Cup then why has he shown such overt displays of petulance?

Evidently not the same as most counties as the other semi-finalists can field teams the same day as the Sigerson.

And what petulance and big scenes are you talking about? We know some of you Tyrone boys dislike Bonner, but you're being a wee bit over-sensitive here. He withdrew from a tournament no one cares about as it didn't work for his squad plans. It's not the end of the world. At worst, Monaghan will go into the final a bit more refreshed than the other finalist.

[Angelo]

Bonner already stated 13 are on Sigerson Duty. McGloone had a long year with his Club. Why would they flog him in Mckenna Cup.? McBrearty is away travelling and will miss the League. Jason Mc Gee will miss the league too, through injury. Oisin Gallen injured also .

So what?

Tyrone have similar numbers on Sigerson duty at the minute, as do Mayo, as do Galway etc.

The following players haven't featured yet for Tyrone - Harte, Hampsey, Cavanagh, Meyler, McNamee, R Donnelly, Bradley, HP McGeary.

Harry Loughran, Declan McClure and Mattie Donnelly are currently injured.

So that's about 20 players that Tyrone could be without this weekend, they will still field a team though.

It looks on the face of it to be amateurish from Bonner not to have a squad for this and embarrassing that he has thrown his toys out of the pram when he should have been planning for it.

Bonner requested that the Mckenna Cup game be moved to next Wednesday,  but Ulster Council refused.  It's a pre season competition, but it's run like its the All Ireland.

Bonner was more making a stance then anything else about fixture congestion. They just cram in games without much thought.

So he's worried about player welfare yet he wanted to add another game in a short space of time for those players to play in? He should have planned without his Sigerson players for this weekend, like every other county did.

[Angelo]

One would presume Bonner thought long and hard about which players he wanted to include in the McKenna Cup with a view to their potential as proper squad members. Naturally a lot of those lads are also going to be on college teams. Are you suggesting that he alter those plans and include non-college players he is less interested in on the off-chance that he might have a semi-final fixture to fulfill? It's a meaningless pre-season tournament, not the World Cup.

The exact same as most counties but Donegal seem to be the only one unwilling to fulfill a fixture. He's made a big scene of throwing his toys out of the pram, if it's not the World Cup then why has he shown such overt displays of petulance?

Evidently not the same as most counties as the other semi-finalists can field teams the same day as the Sigerson.

And what petulance and big scenes are you talking about? We know some of you Tyrone boys dislike Bonner, but you're being a wee bit over-sensitive here. He withdrew from a tournament no one cares about as it didn't work for his squad plans. It's not the end of the world. At worst, Monaghan will go into the final a bit more refreshed than the other finalist.

Evidently they can field because they planned without unavailable players and Donegal planned on playing with unavailable players.

He made a big scene of pulling out from a tournament and bizarrely stood behind player welfare as a reason for it when he wanted to add an extra midweek game into the mix for those players involved.

[greatpoint]

The exact same as most counties but Donegal seem to be the only one unwilling to fulfill a fixture. He's made a big scene of throwing his toys out of the pram, if it's not the World Cup then why has he shown such overt displays of petulance?

It looks on the face of it to be amateurish from Bonner not to have a squad for this and embarrassing that he has thrown his toys out of the pram when he should have been planning for it.

The problem seems to be that Declan Bonner picked a squad for the McKenna Cup which would struggle to field a team, why didn't he give players a run out who could play games? Donegal could field a team if they wanted but Bonner has thrown his toys out of the pram.

Instead he has gone and thrown his toys out of the pram. It's embarrassing.

It's utterly embarrassing for a county of Donegal's size not to be able to field a team.

It's Declan Bonner throwing his toys out of the pram and not for the first time.

These circumstances are not unique to Donegal yet they are the only county who have thrown their toys out of the pram and not fulfilled a fixture.

Bonner must be running an extremely amateur setup if he hadn't assembled a squad that could compete in the McKenna Cup, no wonder a good few regulars have walked again in the past few years.

Monaghan and Down will have similar numbers, the difference seems to be that Declan Bonner made a huge **** up of his McKenna Cup squad. It's a bad sign that you can't muster 20 lads to tog out for the weekend.

Donegal have thrown their toys out of the pram.

Is everything alright pet? Anything you want to tell us?

[Angelo]

The exact same as most counties but Donegal seem to be the only one unwilling to fulfill a fixture. He's made a big scene of throwing his toys out of the pram, if it's not the World Cup then why has he shown such overt displays of petulance?

It looks on the face of it to be amateurish from Bonner not to have a squad for this and embarrassing that he has thrown his toys out of the pram when he should have been planning for it.

The problem seems to be that Declan Bonner picked a squad for the McKenna Cup which would struggle to field a team, why didn't he give players a run out who could play games? Donegal could field a team if they wanted but Bonner has thrown his toys out of the pram.

Instead he has gone and thrown his toys out of the pram. It's embarrassing.

It's utterly embarrassing for a county of Donegal's size not to be able to field a team.

It's Declan Bonner throwing his toys out of the pram and not for the first time.

These circumstances are not unique to Donegal yet they are the only county who have thrown their toys out of the pram and not fulfilled a fixture.

Bonner must be running an extremely amateur setup if he hadn't assembled a squad that could compete in the McKenna Cup, no wonder a good few regulars have walked again in the past few years.

Monaghan and Down will have similar numbers, the difference seems to be that Declan Bonner made a huge **** up of his McKenna Cup squad. It's a bad sign that you can't muster 20 lads to tog out for the weekend.

Donegal have thrown their toys out of the pram.

Is everything alright pet? Anything you want to tell us?

You threw your toys out of the pram, Declan.

[J70]

One would presume Bonner thought long and hard about which players he wanted to include in the McKenna Cup with a view to their potential as proper squad members. Naturally a lot of those lads are also going to be on college teams. Are you suggesting that he alter those plans and include non-college players he is less interested in on the off-chance that he might have a semi-final fixture to fulfill? It's a meaningless pre-season tournament, not the World Cup.

The exact same as most counties but Donegal seem to be the only one unwilling to fulfill a fixture. He's made a big scene of throwing his toys out of the pram, if it's not the World Cup then why has he shown such overt displays of petulance?

Evidently not the same as most counties as the other semi-finalists can field teams the same day as the Sigerson.

And what petulance and big scenes are you talking about? We know some of you Tyrone boys dislike Bonner, but you're being a wee bit over-sensitive here. He withdrew from a tournament no one cares about as it didn't work for his squad plans. It's not the end of the world. At worst, Monaghan will go into the final a bit more refreshed than the other finalist.

Evidently they can field because they planned without unavailable players and Donegal planned on playing with unavailable players.

He made a big scene of pulling out from a tournament and bizarrely stood behind player welfare as a reason for it when he wanted to add an extra midweek game into the mix for those players involved.

Clearly Donegal didn't give much, if any, consideration to making the semi. Not disputing that at all. I just don't see the problem with that. Its a pre-season tournament for looking at potential players. not a competition worth taking seriously on its own merits.

The player welfare comments from the county board press comment ARE a bit puzzling, although MAYBE a couple of days might have helped the flu victims recover. It would be nice if the Donegal county board is starting to see the light in that respect though.

But how exactly is pulling out of the tournament making a big scene on Bonner's part? What would you have had them do? Just say nothing and not show up on the night?

[J70]

The exact same as most counties but Donegal seem to be the only one unwilling to fulfill a fixture. He's made a big scene of throwing his toys out of the pram, if it's not the World Cup then why has he shown such overt displays of petulance?

It looks on the face of it to be amateurish from Bonner not to have a squad for this and embarrassing that he has thrown his toys out of the pram when he should have been planning for it.

The problem seems to be that Declan Bonner picked a squad for the McKenna Cup which would struggle to field a team, why didn't he give players a run out who could play games? Donegal could field a team if they wanted but Bonner has thrown his toys out of the pram.

Instead he has gone and thrown his toys out of the pram. It's embarrassing.

It's utterly embarrassing for a county of Donegal's size not to be able to field a team.

It's Declan Bonner throwing his toys out of the pram and not for the first time.

These circumstances are not unique to Donegal yet they are the only county who have thrown their toys out of the pram and not fulfilled a fixture.

Bonner must be running an extremely amateur setup if he hadn't assembled a squad that could compete in the McKenna Cup, no wonder a good few regulars have walked again in the past few years.

Monaghan and Down will have similar numbers, the difference seems to be that Declan Bonner made a huge **** up of his McKenna Cup squad. It's a bad sign that you can't muster 20 lads to tog out for the weekend.

Donegal have thrown their toys out of the pram.

Is everything alright pet? Anything you want to tell us?

[Angelo]

One would presume Bonner thought long and hard about which players he wanted to include in the McKenna Cup with a view to their potential as proper squad members. Naturally a lot of those lads are also going to be on college teams. Are you suggesting that he alter those plans and include non-college players he is less interested in on the off-chance that he might have a semi-final fixture to fulfill? It's a meaningless pre-season tournament, not the World Cup.

The exact same as most counties but Donegal seem to be the only one unwilling to fulfill a fixture. He's made a big scene of throwing his toys out of the pram, if it's not the World Cup then why has he shown such overt displays of petulance?

Evidently not the same as most counties as the other semi-finalists can field teams the same day as the Sigerson.

And what petulance and big scenes are you talking about? We know some of you Tyrone boys dislike Bonner, but you're being a wee bit over-sensitive here. He withdrew from a tournament no one cares about as it didn't work for his squad plans. It's not the end of the world. At worst, Monaghan will go into the final a bit more refreshed than the other finalist.

Evidently they can field because they planned without unavailable players and Donegal planned on playing with unavailable players.

He made a big scene of pulling out from a tournament and bizarrely stood behind player welfare as a reason for it when he wanted to add an extra midweek game into the mix for those players involved.

Clearly Donegal didn't give much, if any, consideration to making the semi. Not disputing that at all. I just don't see the problem with that. Its a pre-season tournament for looking at potential players. not a competition worth taking seriously on its own merits.

The player welfare comments from the county board press comment ARE a bit puzzling, although MAYBE a couple of days might have helped the flu victims recover. It would be nice if the Donegal county board is starting to see the light in that respect though.

But how exactly is pulling out of the tournament making a big scene on Bonner's part? What would you have had them do? Just say nothing and not show up on the night?

He had been bleating for the past week about it then withdrew his team. It's an embarrassment and when you consider it's a county with Donegal's pick and quality that has taken this decision it is even moreso. It has shown the competition enormous disrespect and I think the Ulster Council should suspend Donegal from taking part next year.