FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

[laoislad]

FAI will have to take someone who is currently without a club, they cant afford to buy anyone's contract out..............as for Martin o Neill, i'm not convinced, always reminds me a bit of Mick o Dwyer, out of touch with the modern game..........

Leave Micko alone.

[Bingo]

Martin O'Neill would have us playing pure football that Dunphy et al are crying out for and that Wes Hoolahan and Andy Reid can dictate with relative ease.

[Asal Mor]

FAI will have to take someone who is currently without a club, they cant afford to buy anyone's contract out..............as for Martin o Neill, i'm not convinced, always reminds me a bit of Mick o Dwyer, out of touch with the modern game..........

He'd be cheaper than Micko though.

[EC Unique]

Hope O'Neill gets it. At least it might be watchable..

[rodney trotter]

O Neill is a great man manager and would have the team playing good football , Trap wasn't that. He would have everyone playing for him, got the best out of McGlean at Sunderland in that first season. He would get lads like Darren Gibson back in the fold, and get Anthony Stokes back in the Squad as well, talented player but a bit head less.

There was too many fall outs under Trap, not like Ireland can afford to let players drift away. Done a great job at the start in getting the team organized but that was to be expected with his salary and CV. Last 18 months were a disaster.

[Applesisapples]

Martin O'Neill would have us playing pure football that Dunphy et al are crying out for and that Wes Hoolahan and Andy Reid can dictate with relative ease.

Andy Reid? he'd need to go to slimming world first!

[Bingo]

Hope O'Neill gets it. At least it might be watchable..

You do know that O'Neill plays the same way as Trap except he'd play a big man up front with a wee man rather than just two wee men up front.

O'Neill relies on Robertson to do his coaching for him. He didn't join him at Sunderland and suffered for it. O'Neill's trick is to get into the dressing room and get alot out of the players but even this recceded in his time at Villa and Sunderland. His master plan at Villa was to play Emile Heskey.

O'Neill had his time but football has moved on from his time at Leicester and Celtic. He isn't a huge step on from Trap.

[rodney trotter]

Robertson is ill at present so it might put O Neill off taking over Ireland, but who's know's. I don't think the football under O Neill would be as dull as Trap regardless.

Fabio Capello's master plan with England involved using Heskey a lot too.

[ballinaman]

Now to get that bollox John Delaney out the door next. Obviously shat himself at the thought of an empty stadium vs Kazakhstan in October!

[rodney trotter]

Now to get that bollox John Delaney out the door next. Obviously shat himself at the thought of an empty stadium vs Kazakhstan in October!

+1.    an eejit.

[AQMP]

Hope O'Neill gets it. At least it might be watchable..

You do know that O'Neill plays the same way as Trap except he'd play a big man up front with a wee man rather than just two wee men up front.

Yes, pretty much spot on Bingo.  I don't think we would get free flowing football with O'Neill at the helm.  The only plus I could see for O'Neill would be that his man management style would lead to a more harmonious and perhaps more confident squad.

Though I'm no big fan of players taking the hump and refusing to turn out for their country, and he is no world beater, I don't think a country with as few resources as Ireland can afford a player like Gibson on the sidelines.  As one other poster said earlier I think Trap arrived and thought to himself "These players are no good, how can I ensure we don't get humped 4-0 in every match?"

These could be lean times for Ireland.  As with the England team the current set up in the Premiership means fewer and fewer Irish or Irish qualified players are getting the opportunity to play for good sides in England.  In addition there's little or nothing coming through OWC that we could steal/poach/persuade.

[johnneycool]

The only free flowing football Ireland will see for the foreseeable future is flowing into the Irish net.

As bad as some of those lads are, Walters, Sammon, Green, Wilson, Whelan etc, there's no world beaters waiting in the wings to suddenly elevate Ireland from being also rans.

[Bingo]

The only free flowing football Ireland will see for the foreseeable future is flowing into the Irish net.

As bad as some of those lads are, Walters, Sammon, Green, Wilson, Whelan etc, there's no world beaters waiting in the wings to suddenly elevate Ireland from being also rans.

What about Andy Reid? 

[nrico2006]

The only free flowing football Ireland will see for the foreseeable future is flowing into the Irish net.

As bad as some of those lads are, Walters, Sammon, Green, Wilson, Whelan etc, there's no world beaters waiting in the wings to suddenly elevate Ireland from being also rans.

All that I have been seeing lately is 'Get Trap Out' in every paper or facebook status I look at.  People are really clueless if they think whoever comes next will do a significantly better job than Trap.  The Ireland squad is poor and there is nothing obviously brilliant coming through (unless Carruthers and Grealish progress and still want to play for their great great grandas countries).  As has been mentioned often enough over the past year or two, the UK and Ireland are being left way behind in the type of technical player that is required to be successful today.  Even the smaller eastern european countries are all producing players who can keep the ball and play intricate passes, yet we are still with the mentality of get the ball and get to the goal as quickly as possible which results in Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales and NI all losing the ball more often than they have it.  Things need to structurally change from a coaching perspective at under-age level; play games with less focus on winning, less players on a team, incorporate futsol even but a big change in direction is required as the way football is played now is not how it was played 20 years ago which is what the home nations still strive to play.

Martin O'Neill will probably get it, but as Bingo said he is apparently not as successful without Robertson (as was the case at Sunderland) and he is hardly a tactical genius.  No manager is going to make a big difference anyway, and it I am sure the Trap haters will look a bit foolish when in two years time the Ireland team will still be at the same level they are now.  Imagine how bad the Irish team would be if you took out the non-Irish players from the squad.  How many of the 1st choice 11 are English/Scottish?  For a sport that is so popular in this country, seriously bad at producing outstanding talents. 

Dunphy is still longing for Andy Reid, Wes Hoolahan and Stephen Ireland to have starring roles in the Ireland team.

[muppet]

This is the team that beat France over 90 minutes in Paris in 2009 in the play off while playing great football.

Given

O'Shea, St. Ledger, Dunne, Kilbane

Lawrence, Whelan, Andrews, Duff

Keane, Doyle.

This is what started last night:

Forde

Coleman, Dunne, O'Shea, Wilson

Walters, Whelan, McCarthy, McClean

Long, Keane

Arguably we had more ball players on the field than we had in 2009. (Paul MacShane came on in 2009!) Granted Walters is a daft selection on the right and Duff was in a different class but the rest should be able to play as well or better than their counterparts in 2009. The difference comes down to the way Trapp sent the two teams out to play. The 2009 team needed to win and went for it. Last nights team hoofed it.