Willie Frazer threatens protests and riots if not allowed see Queen in Dublin

Started by Tubberman, May 12, 2011, 12:30:14 PM

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Tubberman

Saw this on another forum. Is this fella mentally unstable??
Apparently he is organising busloads to go down to Dublin to see the Queen.
She's not making any official appearance to the general public as far as I know, so I don't know where they plan to see her.
He is obviously trying to stir up trouble. This guy should be sectioned or charged with incitement.

QuoteA report by Sean Murphy in todays Daily Star states that Unionist Leader(since when did he become a Leader)Willie Frazer said that tension surrounding the visit should not be used as an excuse to exclude them,he said a ban would result in protests and fresh violence."Heaven forbid anyone would attack her",if we were banned we would protest,the road to Dublin would be blocked".He also stated "We dont want trouble,but she is our head of State and her Citizens(Subjects Willie Loyal Subjects)should not be stopped from seeing her."If Protestants are told they cant go to Dublin,it would only provoke them to go down for trouble-and that would spark major riots".
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: Tubberman on May 12, 2011, 12:30:14 PM
Saw this on another forum. Is this fella mentally unstable??
Apparently he is organising busloads to go down to Dublin to see the Queen.
She's not making any official appearance to the general public as far as I know, so I don't know where they plan to see her.
He is obviously trying to stir up trouble. This guy should be sectioned or charged with incitement.

QuoteA report by Sean Murphy in todays Daily Star states that Unionist Leader(since when did he become a Leader)Willie Frazer said that tension surrounding the visit should not be used as an excuse to exclude them,he said a ban would result in protests and fresh violence."Heaven forbid anyone would attack her",if we were banned we would protest,the road to Dublin would be blocked".He also stated "We dont want trouble,but she is our head of State and her Citizens(Subjects Willie Loyal Subjects)should not be stopped from seeing her."If Protestants are told they cant go to Dublin,it would only provoke them to go down for trouble-and that would spark major riots".

On the basis of that quote, Willie should be arrested and questioned in relation to Incitement to relicious hatred and incitement to violence.  There would a viable case against the wee twat and it would be nice to see him squirm.  Though it would give him another drum to bang but f**k it I'd love to see him getting his comeuppance.  He and Rita could then chat over coffee how hard done by they are!

orangeman

The good people of Dundalk will I'm sure give him a nice welcome as usual !  ;)

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Evil Genius

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 12, 2011, 12:37:09 PMOn the basis of that quote, Willie should be arrested and questioned in relation to Incitement to relicious hatred and incitement to violence.  There would a viable case against the wee t**t and it would be nice to see him squirm.  Though it would give him another drum to bang but f**k it I'd love to see him getting his comeuppance.  He and Rita could then chat over coffee how hard done by they are!
Why give him the platform he so clearly craves?

For if he were arrested and charged etc, his first "defence" would be to question why eg this shower are allowed to demonstrate with complete impugnity:



In the statement, the Real IRA describes Catholic members of the PSNI as "traitors".

"Those who think they are serving their community are in fact serving the occupation and will be treated as such," the statement says.

"The GAA, Catholic Church and constitutional nationalism will be unable to protect those who turn traitor.

"They are as liable for execution as anyone, regardless of their religion, cultural background or motivation".

http://www.u.tv/news/RIRA-threatens-to-execute-officers/67c93213-673e-49d1-90d7-61c57c778215


And when you compare the danger posed by his bluster with that posed by their bombs and bullets etc, he'd have a point.

Frazer's clearly got "issues", but whether you sympathise with his mental state, or scorn him for his stirring etc, he's best ignored.

"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

brokencrossbar1

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Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Evil Genius on May 12, 2011, 01:00:17 PM
For if he were arrested and charged etc, his first "defence" would be to question why eg this shower are allowed to demonstrate with complete impugnity:



WTF?! Do you mean that they never cease with the obloquy?  :D
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

ziggysego

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 12, 2011, 01:04:21 PM
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Testing Accessibility

Ulick

Has anyone actually said he can't come down to look at the English Queer?

Evil Genius

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 12, 2011, 01:04:21 PM
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For someone who uses the phrase so emphatically, it's ironic you don't understand what "whataboutery" actually means.

"Whataboutery" is where someone tries to defend their wrongdoing, even claim that it is not wrong at all, on the basis that someone else did something worse.

If you had either the intelligence to comprehend, or the patience to read properly, what I actually posted, you would see that I was not trying to defend Frazer for what he is reported as saying.

Rather, I was giving my opinion on how best to respond. Clearly the guy has issues, which cause him to want to be in the papers etc every day. He's normally unsuccessful, since people either ignore him or laugh at him. As an instance, he has stood for election in the past and been embarrassed at how few votes he got.

However, if you were to arrest him over this statement and he ended up fined and bound over etc, he would question (legitimately, imo) why he was being arrested for issuing an idiotic Press Release, whilst those who murder PSNI officers are allowed to parade openly in paramilitary uniform and reiterate their threat to murder, without any action.

And since he (Frazer) would for once have a point, consequently others might then begin to give him the audience and credence he so desperately craves.

Unless, of course, you believe that the PSNI and Gardai haven't better things to be doing than wasting time on that prat... ::)
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

mylestheslasher

Willie should be fired out of a canon and lauched directly into Queen Elizibeths hotel room to great her on her return. (well thats what I'd tell him when I am pushing his head into the canon!)

rossie mad


Evil Genius

Its ironic that its wildly accepted the reason the PSNI didnt intervene in the idiotic raindance that took place in Derry was because the PSNI did not want to publicise their so called legitmacy and maybe win them over a few more sympathisers.
No more than Willie they need about as much publicity as a dwarf porn film.

Evil Genius

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 12, 2011, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on May 12, 2011, 01:00:17 PM
For if he were arrested and charged etc, his first "defence" would be to question why eg this shower are allowed to demonstrate with complete impugnity:



WTF?! Do you mean that they never cease with the obloquy?  :D
OK, drop the stray "g" and you'll see what I meant (though you doubtless did, anyhow).

Any comment on the topic of Frazer and his ranting?

No?

Oh well, you enjoy your little "victory" anyhow.

Twagt.
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

deiseach

Quote from: Evil Genius on May 12, 2011, 01:00:17 PM
"Those who think they are serving their community are in fact serving the occupation and will be treated as such," the statement says.

Someone arrest this man, he's in the Real IRA!




Tubberman

Quote from: Ulick on May 12, 2011, 01:13:38 PM
Has anyone actually said he can't come down to look at the English Queer?

No, but he's getting his outrage in early, just in case....
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."