McKenna Cup 2024

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JoG2

Maybe just ride it out this year and hopefully the new Tyrone manager will see sense in 2016

NaomhBridAbú

Quote from: JoG2 on December 08, 2014, 10:57:51 AM
Maybe just ride it out this year and hopefully the new Tyrone manager will see sense in 2016

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trueblue1234

Quote from: ck on December 08, 2014, 10:53:29 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on December 07, 2014, 01:57:56 AM
Firstly I feel the universities should have first choice on players as a general rule.

However. For me a university is firstly a place of learning. It is as important for the last to be given the same opportunity as the first. If they lose players to the counties I do not feel it is right to simply take their ball and go home. As much as the counties have a pool of players to choose from so do the universities. If Caolan Mooney is picked by Down for example does this not open up the opportunity for another student to take his place. Some will say that they will not be competitive. From the university point of view so what. The replacement has as much right to play as the first choice and will probably learn much more from the experience. By pulling out of the competition the university is telling its students that in times of adversity you run away. That winning is more important than trying. That one students rights are more important than another's. If I was a student on the bench or seconds for a university that pulled out under these circumstances I would feel cheated. For me it was wrong when Queen's pulled out and it is still wrong.

If we transfer it to the club scene. When Cross played Omagh this year they had Aaron and Stephen Kernan injured. McKenna, Cunningham and Franny Hanratty were not fit to start. Carragher went off after 5 minutes and they had 2 players sent off. But they still played on and lost narrowly. They will be stronger in future for it as young or unfancied players got a chance to learn. With Cross history has proved that.

Universities are places to learn. Winning is not always were you learn.

Your comments are naive and ideological.  The lesson of running away as soon as adversity hits could easily be viewed as standing up for what you believe in ie: Fairplay, honesty and integrity. None of these terms have been in operation over the past few years with the Ulster councils treatment of the colleges in fairness.

IT Sligo play in the FBD and all I know is that if counties pulled our players then we'd have to ask what is the point given we are trying to prepare for the Sigerson. We play 3 FBD games in January and these are vitally important for our Sigerson preparation.

Unless the Ulster council can get off their useless arses and enforce the rules of the competition then they should chuck the colleges out ta hell.

The same could be said about County teams and preparing for the NL.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

BennyHarp

Quote from: trueblue1234 on December 08, 2014, 11:42:51 AM
Quote from: ck on December 08, 2014, 10:53:29 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on December 07, 2014, 01:57:56 AM
Firstly I feel the universities should have first choice on players as a general rule.

However. For me a university is firstly a place of learning. It is as important for the last to be given the same opportunity as the first. If they lose players to the counties I do not feel it is right to simply take their ball and go home. As much as the counties have a pool of players to choose from so do the universities. If Caolan Mooney is picked by Down for example does this not open up the opportunity for another student to take his place. Some will say that they will not be competitive. From the university point of view so what. The replacement has as much right to play as the first choice and will probably learn much more from the experience. By pulling out of the competition the university is telling its students that in times of adversity you run away. That winning is more important than trying. That one students rights are more important than another's. If I was a student on the bench or seconds for a university that pulled out under these circumstances I would feel cheated. For me it was wrong when Queen's pulled out and it is still wrong.

If we transfer it to the club scene. When Cross played Omagh this year they had Aaron and Stephen Kernan injured. McKenna, Cunningham and Franny Hanratty were not fit to start. Carragher went off after 5 minutes and they had 2 players sent off. But they still played on and lost narrowly. They will be stronger in future for it as young or unfancied players got a chance to learn. With Cross history has proved that.

Universities are places to learn. Winning is not always were you learn.

Your comments are naive and ideological.  The lesson of running away as soon as adversity hits could easily be viewed as standing up for what you believe in ie: Fairplay, honesty and integrity. None of these terms have been in operation over the past few years with the Ulster councils treatment of the colleges in fairness.

IT Sligo play in the FBD and all I know is that if counties pulled our players then we'd have to ask what is the point given we are trying to prepare for the Sigerson. We play 3 FBD games in January and these are vitally important for our Sigerson preparation.

Unless the Ulster council can get off their useless arses and enforce the rules of the competition then they should chuck the colleges out ta hell.

The same could be said about County teams and preparing for the NL.

Do the universities not have a senior league prior to the Sigerson Cup in order to prepare? The counties go straight into the NFL after the McKenna cup etc and county managers (and it wasn't just Mickey Harte who called on his players over the past few years) are entitled to fight their corner regarding having everyone available to them. It's up to the Ulster council to make a decision and stick to it.  It was worth the experiment but it has failed and it's time to move on, competitions where players are eligible for two teams just doesn't work.
That was never a square ball!!

our_fella

http://ulster.gaa.ie/2014/12/bank-of-ireland-dr-mckenna-cup-ready-to-throw-in-for-2015/

12 teams involved.

4 showed up for press release. 2/4 wearing tops of their respective teams. I didnt know Ulster had a team in comp?


rrhf

I'd question the need for the universities there at all. Keep causing rows.

never kickt a ball

Quote from: our_fella on December 08, 2014, 06:27:39 PM
http://ulster.gaa.ie/2014/12/bank-of-ireland-dr-mckenna-cup-ready-to-throw-in-for-2015/

12 teams involved.

4 showed up for press release. 2/4 wearing tops of their respective teams. I didnt know Ulster had a team in comp?

Ulster we're going to enter but the Universities took all their players ;)

never kickt a ball



Bank of Ireland Dr. McKenna Cup 2015 Fixtures
All Sunday games at 2.00pm All midweek games at 7.30pm.
(Extra time to be played in Semi finals & Final)

Group A: Ulster University, Down, Cavan & Monaghan
Group B: QUB, Fermanagh, Donegal & Derry
Group C: St Marys, Armagh, Antrim & Tyrone

Sunday 4th January: Round 1
Group A
Monaghan v Ulster University at Clones
Down v Cavan at Pairc Esler
Group B
Fermanagh v QUB at Brewster Park
Derry v Donegal at Celtic Park
Group C
Armagh v Tyrone at Athletic Grounds
Antrim v St Marys at Creggan

Saturday 10th January: Round 2
Group A
Cavan v Ulster University at Kingspan Breffni Park (7.30pm)

Sunday 11th January: Round 2:
Group A
Monaghan v Down at Clones
Group B
Donegal v QUB at Pairc MacCumhaill
Fermanagh v Derry at Brewster Park
Group C
Antrim v Armagh at Creggan
Tyrone v St Marys at Healy Park

Wednesday 14th January: Round 3:
Group A
Down v Ulster University at Pairc Esler
Cavan v Monaghan at Kingspan Breffni Park
Group B
Derry v QUB at Celtic Park
Donegal v Fermanagh at Pairc MacCumhaill
Group C
Tyrone v Antrim at Healy Park
Armagh v St Marys at Athletic Grounds

Sunday 18th January: Semi Finals:
(1) Group A Winner v Group B Winner
(2) Group C Winner v Best Runner Up

Saturday 24th January: Final

rrhf

C ya on the 24th... should be a cracker.

Throw ball

Quote from: our_fella on December 08, 2014, 06:27:39 PM
http://ulster.gaa.ie/2014/12/bank-of-ireland-dr-mckenna-cup-ready-to-throw-in-for-2015/

12 teams involved.

4 showed up for press release. 2/4 wearing tops of their respective teams. I didnt know Ulster had a team in comp?

Good to see St. Mary's represented - and by an Armagh county player too.

our_fella

And there to represent the Ranch, whilst wearing an Armagh top. Laughable

rrhf

I'm glad mc keever has made the Armagh squad.

illdecide

Quote from: rrhf on December 09, 2014, 11:06:04 PM
I'm glad mc keever has made the Armagh squad.
I'm glad that your glad
I can swim a little but i can't fly an inch

never kickt a ball

Mark McHugh returns to Donegal squad ahead of McKenna Cup

Mark McHugh has returned to the Donegal football squad ahead of next month's Dr McKenna Cup campaign.
Kilcar man McHugh, 24, surprisingly left the squad in late April a month before the start of the Championship.
McHugh said that he was not enjoying his football after being bothered by injury over the previous 18 months.
The Kilcar man's cousin Eoin McHugh and St Eunan's Conor Parke are among several newcomers named in Rory Gallagher's McKenna Cup panel.
With several experienced players excused from McKenna Cup duty, Eoin McHugh is included alongside his Kilcar club-mate Ciaran McGinley.
Other squad newcomers in Gallagher's first panel are St Michael's Daniel McLaughlin, Dungloe's Cory Gallagher, Naomh Conaill's Eunan Doherty, Ardara's Ryan Malley, Naomh Colmcille's Willie Gillespie, Four Masters's Kevin McBrearty and Glenswilly duo Eamon Ward and Joe Gibbons.
The squad does include regulars Paul Durcan, Paddy McGrath, Declan Walsh, Frank McGlynn, Odhran MacNiallais, Christy Toye, Martin McElhinney, Darach O'Connor, Martin O'Reilly and Michael Murphy.
Gary McFadden is also included after opting out of the squad at the same time as Mark McHugh.
McHugh won an All Star award in 2012 after helping Donegal to All-Ireland Championship success.
However, the Kilcar man was hindered by a groin injury in the aftermath of Donegal's All-Ireland triumph and suffered concussion, a perforated eardrum and a quad muscle tear following a collision with Monaghan's Stephen Gollogly in last year's Ulster Final.
Fermanagh man Gallagher was handed the Donegal job in late October after Jim McGuinness's decision to step down from the role.


Donegal's McKenna Cup Squad:

Michael Boyle (Termon), Paul Durcan (Four Masters), Mark Anthony McGinley (St Michael's) Paddy McGrath (Ardara), Declan Walsh (Malin), Frank McGlynn (Glenfin), Odhran MacNiallais (Gweedore), Martin McElhinney (St Michaels), Christy Toye (St Michael's), Darach O'Connor (Buncrana), Eamon Doherty (St Eunan's), Hugh McFadden (Killybegs), Martin O'Reilly (MacCumhaills), Michael Murphy (Glenswilly) Gary McFadden (Glenswilly), Mark McHugh (Kilcar), Eoin McHugh (Kilcar), Ciaran McGinley (Kilcar), Conor Parke (St Eunan's), Daniel McLaughlin (St Michael's), Cory Gallagher (Dungloe), Eunan Doherty (Naomh Conaill), Ryan Malley (Ardara), Willie Gillespie (Naomh Colmcille), Kevin McBrearty (Four Masters), Eamon Ward (Glenswilly), Joe Gibbons (Glenswilly).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/gaelic-games/30586587?print=true

never kickt a ball

Tyrone's Squad

Ronan McNamee – Achadh Uí Aráin
Aidan McCrory – Aireagal Chiaráin
Peter Harte – Aireagal Chiaráin
Mark Donnelly – An Charraig Mhór
Niall McKenna – An Domhnach Mór
Cathal McCarron – An Droim Mhór
Colm Cavanagh – An Mhaigh
Sean Cavanagh – An Mhaigh
Justin McMahon – An Omaigh
Barry Tierney – An Omaigh
Kyle Coney – Ard Bó
Shay McGuigan – Ard Bó
Dwayne Quinn – Cluain Eo
PJ Lavery – Cluain Eo
Mickey O'Neill – Cluain Eo
Tiernan McCann – Coill an Chlochair
Padraig McNulty – Dún Geanainn
Patrick Quinn – Dún Geanainn
Cathal McShane – E R Uí Néill
Niall Morgan – Éadan na dTorc
Darren McCurry – Éadan na dTorc
Ryan McKenna – Eaglais
Emmett McKenna – Eaglais
Peter Hughes – Eiscreach
Plunkett Kane – Oileán a'Ghuail
Rory Brennan – Trí Leac

There are 4 players in the Senior squad for the first time – Dwayne Quinn, Padraig McNulty, Cathal McShane and Rory Brennan.