Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[trailer]

Yeah this is a precarious enough situation as Irans, Russias etc etc could very well get involved here and if that happens it has the potential to get very very messy. It would appear the "west" will side with Israel no matter what 

Do you think they should side with Iran ?

They should side with innocent men, women and children and bring pressure on Israel and Hamas to f**king stop attacking each other. Hamas are a bundle of Muslim psychopaths as well.
The West created this mess so they should sort it out. If that means committing troops then so be it. 

Hamas are not a bundle of Muslim psychopaths, they are part of the resistance to the occupation of Palestine. They have the right to resist and right to self determination
under international law. ( to be clear they don't have the right to breach int law) They won elections in 2006, updated charter and recognoised israel in 2017 and they have offered numerous ceasefires which I shared a timesofisrael link to recently. Hamas wouldn't exist but for the occupation and oppression of Israel and its enablers.

Sorry but murdering innocent people at a music festival and capturing innocent people as hostages is the work of psychopaths. Want to be considered a proper government then act like one. Same goes for Israel. Personally I would like to see the leaders of both in The Hague.

very few would be considered proper government by your logic..Israel,USA, Saudis, Russia, Ukraine, UK the list goes on.

As I've said conflicts are the results of failure of international community, we are seeing now the international community are willing to enable genocide

Hamas should respect international law. Yes or No?

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Hamas are Islamic fundamentalists. They have eradicated the secularism that was developing in Gaza under the PLO. No sane Irish person would ever want to live under them and I cannot fathom why we'd ever wish them on the poor people of Palestine, especially the women, and call it freedom. We had our own group of fundamentalist Catholic men that thought it was okay to lock women up in Magdalene launderies, deny women contraception, divorce, write into a constitution that their place was in the home. If you think that was bad, wait until you hear about these evil fucked up men called Hamas.

The people voted for them in 2006. The PLO are corrupt and a shambles.. Hamas are modernising, but far from perfect.

Where would living under occupation for 75 years plus and caged for 16 years by genocidal Israelis rank

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Yeah this is a precarious enough situation as Irans, Russias etc etc could very well get involved here and if that happens it has the potential to get very very messy. It would appear the "west" will side with Israel no matter what 

Do you think they should side with Iran ?

They should side with innocent men, women and children and bring pressure on Israel and Hamas to f**king stop attacking each other. Hamas are a bundle of Muslim psychopaths as well.
The West created this mess so they should sort it out. If that means committing troops then so be it. 

Hamas are not a bundle of Muslim psychopaths, they are part of the resistance to the occupation of Palestine. They have the right to resist and right to self determination
under international law. ( to be clear they don't have the right to breach int law) They won elections in 2006, updated charter and recognoised israel in 2017 and they have offered numerous ceasefires which I shared a timesofisrael link to recently. Hamas wouldn't exist but for the occupation and oppression of Israel and its enablers.

Sorry but murdering innocent people at a music festival and capturing innocent people as hostages is the work of psychopaths. Want to be considered a proper government then act like one. Same goes for Israel. Personally I would like to see the leaders of both in The Hague.

very few would be considered proper government by your logic..Israel,USA, Saudis, Russia, Ukraine, UK the list goes on.

As I've said conflicts are the results of failure of international community, we are seeing now the international community are willing to enable genocide

Hamas should respect international law. Yes or No?

See the 'to be clear' section in my original response.

[Itchy]

Yeah this is a precarious enough situation as Irans, Russias etc etc could very well get involved here and if that happens it has the potential to get very very messy. It would appear the "west" will side with Israel no matter what 

Do you think they should side with Iran ?

They should side with innocent men, women and children and bring pressure on Israel and Hamas to f**king stop attacking each other. Hamas are a bundle of Muslim psychopaths as well.
The West created this mess so they should sort it out. If that means committing troops then so be it. 

Hamas are not a bundle of Muslim psychopaths, they are part of the resistance to the occupation of Palestine. They have the right to resist and right to self determination
under international law. ( to be clear they don't have the right to breach int law) They won elections in 2006, updated charter and recognoised israel in 2017 and they have offered numerous ceasefires which I shared a timesofisrael link to recently. Hamas wouldn't exist but for the occupation and oppression of Israel and its enablers.

Sorry but murdering innocent people at a music festival and capturing innocent people as hostages is the work of psychopaths. Want to be considered a proper government then act like one. Same goes for Israel. Personally I would like to see the leaders of both in The Hague.

very few would be considered proper government by your logic..Israel,USA, Saudis, Russia, Ukraine, UK the list goes on.

As I've said conflicts are the results of failure of international community, we are seeing now the international community are willing to enable genocide

Hamas should respect international law. Yes or No?

See the 'to be clear' section in my original response.

It's not even in the top 100 of things that need to be said right now but yet it seems to be the first things a lot of people have to say. "What about Hamas.."

I can tell you if I were living in Gaza I would've joined Hamas, no question about it.

[burdizzo]

Yeah this is a precarious enough situation as Irans, Russias etc etc could very well get involved here and if that happens it has the potential to get very very messy. It would appear the "west" will side with Israel no matter what 

Do you think they should side with Iran ?

They should side with innocent men, women and children and bring pressure on Israel and Hamas to f**king stop attacking each other. Hamas are a bundle of Muslim psychopaths as well.
The West created this mess so they should sort it out. If that means committing troops then so be it. 

Hamas are not a bundle of Muslim psychopaths, they are part of the resistance to the occupation of Palestine. They have the right to resist and right to self determination
under international law. ( to be clear they don't have the right to breach int law) They won elections in 2006, updated charter and recognoised israel in 2017 and they have offered numerous ceasefires which I shared a timesofisrael link to recently. Hamas wouldn't exist but for the occupation and oppression of Israel and its enablers.

This is terrible shit, altogether. Hamas wilfully started this latest round of slaughter. They knew what would happen to their own people, and they still went ahead and 'prodded the tiger', as they say. It was no way an act of 'resistance', it was deliberately goading Israel. "Hamas wouldn't exist but for the occupation..."? Puh. Israel wouldn't have killed 8,000 if Hamas hadn't moved. NOTHING in geopolitics happens for no reason. And, yes, Hamas are a bag of Muslim psychos.

[bennydorano]

Hamas 'represent' Gaza the same way the Conservatives 'represent' the UK.

Israel are currently doing what Hamas hoped they would, in the hope that the situation would escalate to a regional clusterfuck forcing the issue. As the rest of the middle east are more interested in tourism / petro dollars I don't think it will escalate, so Hamas will achieve nothing except maybe seeing Gaza being wiped from existence.

[Eamonnca1]

Yeah this is a precarious enough situation as Irans, Russias etc etc could very well get involved here and if that happens it has the potential to get very very messy. It would appear the "west" will side with Israel no matter what 

Do you think they should side with Iran ?

They should side with innocent men, women and children and bring pressure on Israel and Hamas to f**king stop attacking each other. Hamas are a bundle of Muslim psychopaths as well.
The West created this mess so they should sort it out. If that means committing troops then so be it. 

Hamas are not a bundle of Muslim psychopaths, they are part of the resistance to the occupation of Palestine. They have the right to resist and right to self determination
under international law. ( to be clear they don't have the right to breach int law) They won elections in 2006, updated charter and recognoised israel in 2017 and they have offered numerous ceasefires which I shared a timesofisrael link to recently. Hamas wouldn't exist but for the occupation and oppression of Israel and its enablers.

This is terrible shit, altogether. Hamas wilfully started this latest round of slaughter. They knew what would happen to their own people, and they still went ahead and 'prodded the tiger', as they say. It was no way an act of 'resistance', it was deliberately goading Israel. "Hamas wouldn't exist but for the occupation..."? Puh. Israel wouldn't have killed 8,000 if Hamas hadn't moved. NOTHING in geopolitics happens for no reason. And, yes, Hamas are a bag of Muslim psychos.

Only if you accept the US media line that always starts the coverage with Hamas's retaliation against some Israeli actions that conveniently never get any airtime.

[marty34]

Yeah this is a precarious enough situation as Irans, Russias etc etc could very well get involved here and if that happens it has the potential to get very very messy. It would appear the "west" will side with Israel no matter what 

Do you think they should side with Iran ?

They should side with innocent men, women and children and bring pressure on Israel and Hamas to f**king stop attacking each other. Hamas are a bundle of Muslim psychopaths as well.
The West created this mess so they should sort it out. If that means committing troops then so be it. 

Hamas are not a bundle of Muslim psychopaths, they are part of the resistance to the occupation of Palestine. They have the right to resist and right to self determination
under international law. ( to be clear they don't have the right to breach int law) They won elections in 2006, updated charter and recognoised israel in 2017 and they have offered numerous ceasefires which I shared a timesofisrael link to recently. Hamas wouldn't exist but for the occupation and oppression of Israel and its enablers.

This is terrible shit, altogether. Hamas wilfully started this latest round of slaughter. They knew what would happen to their own people, and they still went ahead and 'prodded the tiger', as they say. It was no way an act of 'resistance', it was deliberately goading Israel. "Hamas wouldn't exist but for the occupation..."? Puh. Israel wouldn't have killed 8,000 if Hamas hadn't moved. NOTHING in geopolitics happens for no reason. And, yes, Hamas are a bag of Muslim psychos.

Ahh, the old 'they started it a few weeks ago' line.

Forgot about the the occupation of Palestine's land etc., never mind the open air prison...and the murder of Palestinian children day after day, for years and years.

[Itchy]

Yeah this is a precarious enough situation as Irans, Russias etc etc could very well get involved here and if that happens it has the potential to get very very messy. It would appear the "west" will side with Israel no matter what 

Do you think they should side with Iran ?

They should side with innocent men, women and children and bring pressure on Israel and Hamas to f**king stop attacking each other. Hamas are a bundle of Muslim psychopaths as well.
The West created this mess so they should sort it out. If that means committing troops then so be it. 

Hamas are not a bundle of Muslim psychopaths, they are part of the resistance to the occupation of Palestine. They have the right to resist and right to self determination
under international law. ( to be clear they don't have the right to breach int law) They won elections in 2006, updated charter and recognoised israel in 2017 and they have offered numerous ceasefires which I shared a timesofisrael link to recently. Hamas wouldn't exist but for the occupation and oppression of Israel and its enablers.

This is terrible shit, altogether. Hamas wilfully started this latest round of slaughter. They knew what would happen to their own people, and they still went ahead and 'prodded the tiger', as they say. It was no way an act of 'resistance', it was deliberately goading Israel. "Hamas wouldn't exist but for the occupation..."? Puh. Israel wouldn't have killed 8,000 if Hamas hadn't moved. NOTHING in geopolitics happens for no reason. And, yes, Hamas are a bag of Muslim psychos.

Why are Israel bombing the west bank

[LC]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67258466

The IDF / Israeli Government are an absolute shower, no shame, no morals and do not seem to give a f@ck.

[seafoid]

Hamas 'represent' Gaza the same way the Conservatives 'represent' the UK.

Israel are currently doing what Hamas hoped they would, in the hope that the situation would escalate to a regional clusterfuck forcing the issue. As the rest of the middle east are more interested in tourism / petro dollars I don't think it will escalate, so Hamas will achieve nothing except maybe seeing Gaza being wiped from existence.

Israel's collective punishment of the civilians of Gaza and sadism such as bombing the Strip's hospitals has united the Middle East, the Sunni AND the Shia, against Israel.

the American right is splitting over this issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQGKzOHD_Ns
because the US cannot afford a regional war with inflation at 5% already.  Any Yank involvement would involve unquantifiable risk. they wouldn't even be able to guarantee Israel's safety. That is the reality 20 years after the US invaded Iraq at Israel's behest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrazXS2f34Y

Israel should stop while it is ahead.

[LeoMc]

The people voted for Hamas in 2006.
50% of the population of Gaza are under 18.
What % of the current population voted for Hamas, and how many would do it today.

Most international calls for a ceasefire emphasise that the Hamas are not representative of the people of Gaza, that the people are not complicit in the war crimes.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

The people voted for Hamas in 2006.
50% of the population of Gaza are under 18.
What % of the current population voted for Hamas, and how many would do it today.

Most international calls for a ceasefire emphasise that the Hamas are not representative of the people of Gaza, that the people are not complicit in the war crimes.

is there a ceasefire? it doesn't matter if palestinians support Hamas or not..

Israel which has occupied, oppressed and massacred Palestinians for 75 years plus has been given carte blanche to continue to do as it pleases. is anyone concerned with who they voted in or supported over those 75 plus years.

The hypocrisy of the Uk/Eu/UK is evident to those who couldn't see it before yet it makes no difference. Genocide is now  actively supported by Uk/Eu/UK, I am not sure how many more innocent civilians have to die to satisfy the Zionist bloodlust, its possible that those who aren't pushed into the Egyptian desert (after Egyptians are bought off) will be massacred as ethic cleansing is now acceptable to Uk/Eu/UK too.

[burdizzo]

The Egyptians don't want them, nor do the Jordanians. Nor does any other Arab state, for that matter. Most likely, Israel will connive to have them shipped to Europe and Canada.

[Eire90]

looks like boris johnson wanted to genocide old people in uk