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The condensed season with all the extra matches in a shorter period of time is the real problem. It's hard to keep up with what is happening and not everything can be televised. GAA people have developed expectations about what will be available. And the football product isn't what it used to be either.

Agree with everything here. People's expectations need to be reined in. It is ridiculous to expect every single game to be free to air all of the time, but that seems to be the hill that some are dying on.

Personally I think  there's too much  football on TV.  The quality of football  is much better on the radio

[Cavanagh is quite probably the worst pundit in history]

"Besides not liking Sean what did he say that's incorrect?"

First of all I'm completely biased here and i know it. Cavanagh is quite probably the worst pundit in history. His lack of research is appalling, on a par with Spillane and Brolly, but he's just no loquacious enough to cover it up. He has an odd sense of humour. And his sense of place - I.e. talking about grassroots - always seems based on what he reads on Twitter rather than what's happening in an actual club.

So what did he say that's incorrect? From my perspective he's taking swipes and he doesn't have the foggiest what it is he's swiping at. He's just throwing out irrelevances. Joining in on conversation that he doesn't care much about, and accidentally taking it off on a new angle that nobody needs.

Worse than Tony Davis?

Paul "and your just thinking to yourself" Flynn would like a word.

My God, but Flynn is  dull. I seem to just  zone out  any time  he  speaks

Cavanagh can be a bit of a tithead but I'd  rather have him than Flynn

Not honestly sure I could pick 3 Nirvana songs I like without using the Unplugged album.

Loved Nevermind when it first came out, but Nirvana are just a little too raw, too intense for a soft old chap like me.

I do think  your music tastes  change as you  get older.  I was a big U2 fan but I  struggled to name  a top 3 for them.

I find myself now pulling towards Neil Diamond and Kris Kristofferson. My younger self would hate me lol.

Rightfully so!

  Indeed! Can't  abide Diamond, but that's for another day....

Not honestly sure I could pick 3 Nirvana songs I like without using the Unplugged album.

Loved Nevermind when it first came out, but Nirvana are just a little too raw, too intense for a soft old chap like me.

I do think  your music tastes  change as you  get older.  I was a big U2 fan but I  struggled to name   a top 3 for them.

[Virgin Media does nothing, which it would if advertisers really were interested.]

There is a great deal of shite on discussed on this matter. Some guy was on the radio there, likely a politician, saying that "Sky had been better as most people have Satellite TV", which is completely untrue, while in reality far more people have broadband. He then said that it should be on RTÉ and advertisers would bid for slots, but RTÉ hasn't much money to give to the GAA and there are people who are not paying their TV licence ranting about games not being on TV.
There is a loss of visibility to the GAA in not having this game on TV, and that too has its price, but there has to accurate discussion of the situation, not fantasy. For one thing, RTÉ is supposed to serve everyone and this aim might not be compatible with having 20 hours of GAA each weekend. Virgin Media does nothing, which it would if advertisers really were interested.

They're too busy  showing Love island and the Kardashian 's 

The man who sold the world
Smells like teen spirit
Sunbeam

2 covers? Covers should be banned IMO!

Rape Me
Lounge Act
SLTS

Aye , but  sure  the start  of this thread was for the Pogues , and I'm sure some picked  The Irish Rover and Waltzing Matilda .

Anyway , I'm not much of a Nirvana fan , but I did like the unplugged album ,  hence the inclusion of 1 and 3

The man who sold the world
Smells like teen spirit
Sunbeam

[Collectively I think there's a lack of nous and smartness in decision making when the pressure is on, and I don't see a go-to player who will demand the ball and do something to get us over the line,]

This is getting hard to take at this stage.  It's ok sucking up one near miss on penalties but 4 now in 2 years?  Forgive me as an Armagh supporter for never wanting to see penalties in our games again.  For any  of you neutrals who think it's great entertainment, be careful what you wish for.  A lot said here and elsewhere about penalties being a lottery?  Sorry, that's nonsense. It's down to skill and composure.  If it was a lottery on the law of averages we would have won 1 or 2 out of those 4. 

For me it's hard to escape the notion that we do have a mental block when it comes to seeing out a game, and especially when we are in front.  I've got to the point now where I would rather we were a couple of points behind going into the final minutes where we don't have to think to much about it and just for for it. 4 points up in a game like that where 2 teams set up defensively was a big advantage heading into the last 15.  We just had to match Donegal on the scoreboard but we stopped scoring completely. Just one or two points in that final 15 or 20 minutes would have won it.  Collectively I think there's a lack of nous and smartness in decision making when the pressure is on, and I don't see a go-to player who will demand the ball and do something to get us over the line, whether that is a crucial high catch in the middle, having the confidence to nail an important score, or a driving run to set up somebody. To be fair I thought Nugent showed some of that confidence and attitude but there wasn't enough.

Really feel for the management and players though. It's a tough one to take and will be hard to motivate themselves.  McGeeney has had so many near misses with Armagh and Kildare. He must feel bloody cursed at this point.

Yeah , I'd have to agree  with this.

[PS Soupy Campbell is one of the most exciting players to watch I have ever seen.]

That was a great watch, fair play to both teams for a brilliant effort, that could have gone either way. Horrible for Armagh players [and supporters] but that's sport I spose.  Unbelievable that there are posters saying that was a poor quality game!

Can't fathom why 2 Armagh players refused a mark to win the game with time nearly up.

Penalties no way to decide a game, better to keep playing periods of extra time until there's a winner IMO.

Armagh are there or thereabouts, I would say McGeeney has them at near their max on most days out. He mightn't be the best manager about but for sure there a plenty worse. For those of you who want him out and there are plenty on here, who is coming in to replace him that's obviously better?

It is easy to talk the talk but if that translated into the real world there are a couple of guys on this board who would be doing goals for Armagh in a penalty shootout lol

PS Soupy Campbell is one of the most exciting players to watch I have ever seen.

Really?

Campbell puts in a  good shift , and is usually worth a point or two , but  I'm  hardly on  the edge of my seat when  he's on the ball. 

There are more exciting players on that  team, namely  Murnin and  Grugan. Turbitt  and  Conaty as well. Rian O Néill  can be unplayable , but  he is a liability at times.  Some really silly  fouls and  getting involved in  needless situations

A few things after  watching all that:

Football as a spectacle is  pathetic.

You're hard to please!

There was some  very good scores taken , but  the  match  itself  was brutal

A few things after  watching all that:

Football as a spectacle is  pathetic.

Penalties need to go

I think McGeeney has taken Armagh as far as he  can. I expect change  there

f**k this is shite, playing against Donegal is now just a game of defenders v attackers. There have been some class scores but no jeopardy in the game, hardly any 50/50 contests and zero atmosphere.

Can't disagree with  any of that

Was tight for 55 mins decent effort from Louth but the Dubs will likely win comfortably now.

The Dubs are hard to beat at home.

Are they? It's been  so long since they played  at  Parnell Park, I can't remember

Louth 1 ahead

A shock on the cards?

[so really it's all about pushing an agenda.]

Clearly the Croatian song was by far the best one there, as was reflected by the public vote. However, the juries decided otherwise, so really it's all about pushing an agenda. Just a confirmation of what was probably always the case. Or certainly recently. Can't be letting the public actually decide!

Which agenda  do you think was more prominent this year ?