Northern Ireland Civil Servants claim £24m in sick pay.

[SammyG]

There are 30,000 Northern Ireland Civil Servants for a population of 1.7m and 27,000 Irish (Free State) Civil Servants for a population of 4.1m. Says it all really.
A job creation scheme.

The actual figures are

UK Civil Service - 543000 out of a population of 60 million = 0.95%
RoI Civil Service - 38700 out of population of 4.1 million = 0.94%

So hardly any difference but don't let that get in the way of your rant.

[lynchbhoy]

There are 30,000 Northern Ireland Civil Servants for a population of 1.7m and 27,000 Irish (Free State) Civil Servants for a population of 4.1m. Says it all really.
A job creation scheme.

The actual figures are

UK Civil Service - 543000 out of a population of 60 million = 0.95%
RoI Civil Service - 38700 out of population of 4.1 million = 0.94%

So hardly any difference but don't let that get in the way of your rant.

even taking your figures sammy
NI CS having 30,000 looks ridiculously high when compared to the 39,000 in southern Ireland

[Bensars]

Heard this interview on the radio.

Average Civil service sick days = 13.5

However 40% of the civil service never missed one days work.

Therefore if we take the example of 100 employees= average of 1350 sick days in total  and 40% dont take any it raises the num ber of sick days to 22.5.

Then add on holidays.


They're worse than fuckin teachers,  shower of workshy hoors.

Half them wouldnt survive in the private sector

[Long time dead]

There are 30,000 Northern Ireland Civil Servants for a population of 1.7m and 27,000 Irish (Free State) Civil Servants for a population of 4.1m. Says it all really.
A job creation scheme.

The actual figures are

UK Civil Service - 543000 out of a population of 60 million = 0.95%
RoI Civil Service - 38700 out of population of 4.1 million = 0.94%

So hardly any difference but don't let that get in the way of your rant.

Complete bullshit argument Sammy - take it you're a Civil Servant - the 30,000 in the north - only deal with the North - not the rest of the UK.

[SammyG]

There are 30,000 Northern Ireland Civil Servants for a population of 1.7m and 27,000 Irish (Free State) Civil Servants for a population of 4.1m. Says it all really.
A job creation scheme.

The actual figures are

UK Civil Service - 543000 out of a population of 60 million = 0.95%
RoI Civil Service - 38700 out of population of 4.1 million = 0.94%

So hardly any difference but don't let that get in the way of your rant.

even taking your figures sammy
NI CS having 30,000 looks ridiculously high when compared to the 39,000 in southern Ireland

It would be if they were just looking after NI but they're part of the wider UK CS and administer a lot of centralised departments.

[Blacksheep]

The Northern Ireland Civil Service is separate from the UK or Home Civil Service. If you listen to the BBC Report the NIPSA President John Corey says there are 30,000 NI Civil Servants.

Here's a link to figures for the Irish Civil Service.
http://www.ireland-information.com/reference/civilser.html

Now get back to work Sammy G or are you off on the sick?

[his holiness nb]

There are 30,000 Northern Ireland Civil Servants for a population of 1.7m and 27,000 Irish (Free State) Civil Servants for a population of 4.1m. Says it all really.
A job creation scheme.

The actual figures are

UK Civil Service - 543000 out of a population of 60 million = 0.95%
RoI Civil Service - 38700 out of population of 4.1 million = 0.94%

So hardly any difference but don't let that get in the way of your rant.

Eh Sammy, you have given figures for the entire UK, he was comparing The North and the Republic.
But dont let that get in the way of your rant  

[SammyG]

Complete bullshit argument Sammy - take it you're a Civil Servant -

Nope, never worked in the public sector

the 30,000 in the north - only deal with the North - not the rest of the UK.

Nonsense, they administer several centralised departments, as well as call centres etc for the whole UK.

[Long time dead]

There are 30,000 Northern Ireland Civil Servants for a population of 1.7m and 27,000 Irish (Free State) Civil Servants for a population of 4.1m. Says it all really.
A job creation scheme.

The actual figures are

UK Civil Service - 543000 out of a population of 60 million = 0.95%
RoI Civil Service - 38700 out of population of 4.1 million = 0.94%

So hardly any difference but don't let that get in the way of your rant.

even taking your figures sammy
NI CS having 30,000 looks ridiculously high when compared to the 39,000 in southern Ireland

It would be if they were just looking after NI but they're part of the wider UK CS and administer a lot of centralised departments.

Go on Sammy name them?

[Bensars]

DO the Civil Service run call centres now as well?

Crimestoppers

[Blacksheep]

The Northern Ireland Civil Service is separate from the UK or Home Civil Service. Staff can't even transfer between to 2 organisations.

That figure doesn't include UK Civil Servants based in the North such as Customs and Revenue and NIO.

Police and Prison Officers are not included in these figures. It's pen pushers.

[Long time dead]

Complete bullshit argument Sammy - take it you're a Civil Servant -

Nope, never worked in the public sector

the 30,000 in the north - only deal with the North - not the rest of the UK.

Nonsense, they administer several centralised departments, as well as call centres etc for the whole UK.

And the % of 30,000 who do that is?  Face facts the Civil Service in the North is a f**king Joke - its is a job creation scheme full of people doing little or nothing week in week out - people talk about lay abouts on the dole at least they don't get as much of the tax payers money as the civil servants do.

[Blacksheep]

"they administer several centralised departments, as well as call centres etc for the whole UK."

No they don't.

[Sky Blue]

If Blacksheep's figure are correct it's far worse than even I imagined! The fact that Sammy G comes on to defend them shows you how the work ethic has complety disappeared in the North. Very sad.

[GweylTah]

The Ciivil Service figures look worse than they are becuase they include long-term sick leave as well as short-term. With tens of thousands of staff, you are bound to have many genuine cases of long-term sick caused by cancer, cardiovascular problems, depression, stress, accidents, etc, but the figures do not look good and people are bound to be annoyed because it is taxpayers money at the end of the day.

But it's a pretty open secret that civil servants do tend to regard some sick leave (maybe two weeks here and there every year) as something to take in addition to annual leave - and what they will admit to each other and in private is rather different to the offence taken when outsiders suggest that they are swinging the lead.