Ryanair set for £8 flights to US

[seafoid]

Thanks for the explanation. You shouldn't have gone to such bother.

I won't waste time on a debate about whether a reduction in Ryanair's stock price is more or less likely to reflect an improvement in the fortunes of their competitors, considering that the event is specifically suggested to be due to "increased competition".

My simple point was the absurdity of posting a comment on a single day's movement in a stock price as if it illustrated something relevant or enduring in the fortunes of the particular company and the pathos of latching onto anything so ludicrous as something to feel good about.

Actually Hardy it's the first time in a long time they have stopped growing.
Fairly significant in terms of share price.
There is a limit to the O'Leary magic.

Maybe he'll turn into more of a liability.

[muppet]

Much as I hate to say it, the market is probably seriously over-reacting and it might be a good time to pick up Ryanair shares. Having said that many of my predictions wrt shares are 180 degrees off so be warned!

[CiKe]

I don't get the Ryanair bashing. Quality is about perception and with them you know what you get. If they get you from A to B on time at a cheap price then they are providing a quality service is the way I see it - ultimately that is their core objective. The rest is just noise. Would I prefer to be treated more politely and not have them walking up and down shouting in my ear the whole time? For free, sure. If I have to pay an extra EUR 50-100 or more then no.

[muppet]

I don't get the Ryanair bashing. Quality is about perception and with them you know what you get. If they get you from A to B on time at a cheap price then they are providing a quality service is the way I see it - ultimately that is their core objective. The rest is just noise. Would I prefer to be treated more politely and not have them walking up and down shouting in my ear the whole time? For free, sure. If I have to pay an extra EUR 50-100 or more then no.

http://www.expressjetpilots.com/the-pipe/showthread.php?44865-Paul-Ridgard-Fund

Paul Ridgard was a First Officer with Ryanair based in Liverpool, UK. As is the case with the vast majority of Ryanair First Officers, Paul was not employed directly by Ryanair, but instead was a contract pilot contracted to fly for Ryanair through their puppet agency, Brookfield. Brookfield pilots are paid only when they fly, with no monthly guarantee. They are considered self employed and thus have no paid vacation, no paid sick days, and no employment rights. There is no pension, no loss of license insurance, no flight benefits etc. All pilots joining Ryanair in the past eight years have been 'employed' through Brookfield.

Paul was enduring a number of personal issues including a divorce when his father died earlier this year. He requested time off (unpaid) for the funeral, but this was denied. With a 9 year old son at home, the death of his father and his impending divorce, things were really starting to get on top of Paul. He did not feel mentally fit to fly and requested a period of unpaid leave to get his head straight. Ryanair again denied his request.

Shortly after this Paul started his upgrade training. As he walked out to the aircraft for his final line check as a Captain he was told by the check airman that he had already been told to fail Paul as he had been highlighted as a 'trouble maker' by Ryanair. The check airman informed him that he would never be successful in gaining an upgrade at Ryanair. After the flight Paul returned home and took his own life.

[CiKe]

I don't get the Ryanair bashing. Quality is about perception and with them you know what you get. If they get you from A to B on time at a cheap price then they are providing a quality service is the way I see it - ultimately that is their core objective. The rest is just noise. Would I prefer to be treated more politely and not have them walking up and down shouting in my ear the whole time? For free, sure. If I have to pay an extra EUR 50-100 or more then no.

http://www.expressjetpilots.com/the-pipe/showthread.php?44865-Paul-Ridgard-Fund

Paul Ridgard was a First Officer with Ryanair based in Liverpool, UK. As is the case with the vast majority of Ryanair First Officers, Paul was not employed directly by Ryanair, but instead was a contract pilot contracted to fly for Ryanair through their puppet agency, Brookfield. Brookfield pilots are paid only when they fly, with no monthly guarantee. They are considered self employed and thus have no paid vacation, no paid sick days, and no employment rights. There is no pension, no loss of license insurance, no flight benefits etc. All pilots joining Ryanair in the past eight years have been 'employed' through Brookfield.

Paul was enduring a number of personal issues including a divorce when his father died earlier this year. He requested time off (unpaid) for the funeral, but this was denied. With a 9 year old son at home, the death of his father and his impending divorce, things were really starting to get on top of Paul. He did not feel mentally fit to fly and requested a period of unpaid leave to get his head straight. Ryanair again denied his request.

Shortly after this Paul started his upgrade training. As he walked out to the aircraft for his final line check as a Captain he was told by the check airman that he had already been told to fail Paul as he had been highlighted as a 'trouble maker' by Ryanair. The check airman informed him that he would never be successful in gaining an upgrade at Ryanair. After the flight Paul returned home and took his own life.

God, hadn't seen that. Pretty horrific.

However, my comment was in relation to the fact that most of the complaints you hear from passengers are about service quality - I don't believe they are too concerned about staff conditions. Now I guess it can be a pretty toxic culture, and I'm not for a second saying I would like to work there, but the "quality" of the service (Transport from A to B) in and of itself is not an issue for me. That said, if people's complaints are about the methods used to get to that low-cost service (e.g aggressive corporate culture), then I can understand it. That's a wider issue, but perhaps shouldn't have jumped in without reading back a few pages.

[orangeman]

Not exactly £8 tickets - $100,000 to be precise.




http://www.spacexc.com/en/home/

Bob Geldof has signed up and will be going shortly.

[Declan]

Be careful muppet!!


Ryanair clips wings of online critics

Ryanair has outlined to a court in South Africa the steps it is taking around the globe to identify people who are making anonymous critical comments on the internet about its attitude towards safety.
The airline has secured an order forcing African telecoms group Telkom to furnish it with information that might help identify a person who has made internet postings using the tag alwaysflying. The company is also seeking information on a specific IP address in South Africa.
The person has made postings on an internet site called PPRuNe.org, which is used by pilots to discuss matters to do with their work.
Ryanair company secretary Juliusz Komorek told the court in an affidavit that one posting falsely portrayed the airline as having an incompetent flying crew and that this could affect the airline's reputation and business.
The posting read: "I don't care if it's wind/ delays/ weather or anything, if you are flying around your destination eating into alternate fuel then you shouldn't be a pilot. If they were employed at my company I would have fired the lot of them!"
Mr Komorek told the court the airline had no objection to honest, objective and legitimate comment, but would seek the removal of unlawful and wrong statements and seek a public apology.
The court was told Ryanair had engaged a law firm in Los Angeles, Holland & Knight LLP, to file libel proceedings against a number of defendants in the Los Angeles Superior Court.
It had also issued proceedings against Internet Brands in California, the registered owner of the PPRuNe.org site, and issued supoenas against Yahoo, Microsoft and Google in pursuit of information.
The information gathered was examined for it by specialist consultancy company Word to the Wise, which idenfied IP addresses in Ireland, the UK and South Africa.
It is understood Ryanair has indentified the person who used the 'always flying' tag and will take legal proceedings as a result. In some cases the airline has secured public apologies from people who made anonymous postings as well as donations to charities, according to one source.
Earlier this year Ryanair got court orders in the Republic instructing Eircom and UPC to provide it with information concerning the identity of parties whom, the High Court was told, had made postings that falsely impugned Ryanair's excellent safety record.
It has initiated up to six sets of legal proceedings in the Republic against individuals who made postings on PPRuNe.org concerning the airline, according to the source.

[orangeman]

Be careful muppet!!


Ryanair clips wings of online critics

Ryanair has outlined to a court in South Africa the steps it is taking around the globe to identify people who are making anonymous critical comments on the internet about its attitude towards safety.
The airline has secured an order forcing African telecoms group Telkom to furnish it with information that might help identify a person who has made internet postings using the tag alwaysflying. The company is also seeking information on a specific IP address in South Africa.
The person has made postings on an internet site called PPRuNe.org, which is used by pilots to discuss matters to do with their work.
Ryanair company secretary Juliusz Komorek told the court in an affidavit that one posting falsely portrayed the airline as having an incompetent flying crew and that this could affect the airline's reputation and business.
The posting read: "I don't care if it's wind/ delays/ weather or anything, if you are flying around your destination eating into alternate fuel then you shouldn't be a pilot. If they were employed at my company I would have fired the lot of them!"
Mr Komorek told the court the airline had no objection to honest, objective and legitimate comment, but would seek the removal of unlawful and wrong statements and seek a public apology.
The court was told Ryanair had engaged a law firm in Los Angeles, Holland & Knight LLP, to file libel proceedings against a number of defendants in the Los Angeles Superior Court.
It had also issued proceedings against Internet Brands in California, the registered owner of the PPRuNe.org site, and issued supoenas against Yahoo, Microsoft and Google in pursuit of information.
The information gathered was examined for it by specialist consultancy company Word to the Wise, which idenfied IP addresses in Ireland, the UK and South Africa.
It is understood Ryanair has indentified the person who used the 'always flying' tag and will take legal proceedings as a result. In some cases the airline has secured public apologies from people who made anonymous postings as well as donations to charities, according to one source.
Earlier this year Ryanair got court orders in the Republic instructing Eircom and UPC to provide it with information concerning the identity of parties whom, the High Court was told, had made postings that falsely impugned Ryanair's excellent safety record.
It has initiated up to six sets of legal proceedings in the Republic against individuals who made postings on PPRuNe.org concerning the airline, according to the source.

Bullying.

[StephenC]

Be careful muppet!!


Ryanair clips wings of online critics

Ryanair has outlined to a court in South Africa the steps it is taking around the globe to identify people who are making anonymous critical comments on the internet about its attitude towards safety.
The airline has secured an order forcing African telecoms group Telkom to furnish it with information that might help identify a person who has made internet postings using the tag alwaysflying. The company is also seeking information on a specific IP address in South Africa.
The person has made postings on an internet site called PPRuNe.org, which is used by pilots to discuss matters to do with their work.
Ryanair company secretary Juliusz Komorek told the court in an affidavit that one posting falsely portrayed the airline as having an incompetent flying crew and that this could affect the airline's reputation and business.
The posting read: "I don't care if it's wind/ delays/ weather or anything, if you are flying around your destination eating into alternate fuel then you shouldn't be a pilot. If they were employed at my company I would have fired the lot of them!"
Mr Komorek told the court the airline had no objection to honest, objective and legitimate comment, but would seek the removal of unlawful and wrong statements and seek a public apology.
The court was told Ryanair had engaged a law firm in Los Angeles, Holland & Knight LLP, to file libel proceedings against a number of defendants in the Los Angeles Superior Court.
It had also issued proceedings against Internet Brands in California, the registered owner of the PPRuNe.org site, and issued supoenas against Yahoo, Microsoft and Google in pursuit of information.
The information gathered was examined for it by specialist consultancy company Word to the Wise, which idenfied IP addresses in Ireland, the UK and South Africa.
It is understood Ryanair has indentified the person who used the 'always flying' tag and will take legal proceedings as a result. In some cases the airline has secured public apologies from people who made anonymous postings as well as donations to charities, according to one source.
Earlier this year Ryanair got court orders in the Republic instructing Eircom and UPC to provide it with information concerning the identity of parties whom, the High Court was told, had made postings that falsely impugned Ryanair's excellent safety record.
It has initiated up to six sets of legal proceedings in the Republic against individuals who made postings on PPRuNe.org concerning the airline, according to the source.

Bullying.

Anonymous keyboard warriors.

[orangeman]

Be careful muppet!!


Ryanair clips wings of online critics

Ryanair has outlined to a court in South Africa the steps it is taking around the globe to identify people who are making anonymous critical comments on the internet about its attitude towards safety.
The airline has secured an order forcing African telecoms group Telkom to furnish it with information that might help identify a person who has made internet postings using the tag alwaysflying. The company is also seeking information on a specific IP address in South Africa.
The person has made postings on an internet site called PPRuNe.org, which is used by pilots to discuss matters to do with their work.
Ryanair company secretary Juliusz Komorek told the court in an affidavit that one posting falsely portrayed the airline as having an incompetent flying crew and that this could affect the airline's reputation and business.
The posting read: "I don't care if it's wind/ delays/ weather or anything, if you are flying around your destination eating into alternate fuel then you shouldn't be a pilot. If they were employed at my company I would have fired the lot of them!"
Mr Komorek told the court the airline had no objection to honest, objective and legitimate comment, but would seek the removal of unlawful and wrong statements and seek a public apology.
The court was told Ryanair had engaged a law firm in Los Angeles, Holland & Knight LLP, to file libel proceedings against a number of defendants in the Los Angeles Superior Court.
It had also issued proceedings against Internet Brands in California, the registered owner of the PPRuNe.org site, and issued supoenas against Yahoo, Microsoft and Google in pursuit of information.
The information gathered was examined for it by specialist consultancy company Word to the Wise, which idenfied IP addresses in Ireland, the UK and South Africa.
It is understood Ryanair has indentified the person who used the 'always flying' tag and will take legal proceedings as a result. In some cases the airline has secured public apologies from people who made anonymous postings as well as donations to charities, according to one source.
Earlier this year Ryanair got court orders in the Republic instructing Eircom and UPC to provide it with information concerning the identity of parties whom, the High Court was told, had made postings that falsely impugned Ryanair's excellent safety record.
It has initiated up to six sets of legal proceedings in the Republic against individuals who made postings on PPRuNe.org concerning the airline, according to the source.

Bullying.

Anonymous keyboard warriors.

Do you want an apology now ?

[StephenC]

Be careful muppet!!


Ryanair clips wings of online critics

Ryanair has outlined to a court in South Africa the steps it is taking around the globe to identify people who are making anonymous critical comments on the internet about its attitude towards safety.
The airline has secured an order forcing African telecoms group Telkom to furnish it with information that might help identify a person who has made internet postings using the tag alwaysflying. The company is also seeking information on a specific IP address in South Africa.
The person has made postings on an internet site called PPRuNe.org, which is used by pilots to discuss matters to do with their work.
Ryanair company secretary Juliusz Komorek told the court in an affidavit that one posting falsely portrayed the airline as having an incompetent flying crew and that this could affect the airline's reputation and business.
The posting read: "I don't care if it's wind/ delays/ weather or anything, if you are flying around your destination eating into alternate fuel then you shouldn't be a pilot. If they were employed at my company I would have fired the lot of them!"
Mr Komorek told the court the airline had no objection to honest, objective and legitimate comment, but would seek the removal of unlawful and wrong statements and seek a public apology.
The court was told Ryanair had engaged a law firm in Los Angeles, Holland & Knight LLP, to file libel proceedings against a number of defendants in the Los Angeles Superior Court.
It had also issued proceedings against Internet Brands in California, the registered owner of the PPRuNe.org site, and issued supoenas against Yahoo, Microsoft and Google in pursuit of information.
The information gathered was examined for it by specialist consultancy company Word to the Wise, which idenfied IP addresses in Ireland, the UK and South Africa.
It is understood Ryanair has indentified the person who used the 'always flying' tag and will take legal proceedings as a result. In some cases the airline has secured public apologies from people who made anonymous postings as well as donations to charities, according to one source.
Earlier this year Ryanair got court orders in the Republic instructing Eircom and UPC to provide it with information concerning the identity of parties whom, the High Court was told, had made postings that falsely impugned Ryanair's excellent safety record.
It has initiated up to six sets of legal proceedings in the Republic against individuals who made postings on PPRuNe.org concerning the airline, according to the source.

Bullying.

Anonymous keyboard warriors.

Do you want an apology now ?

You can discuss that with my legal team.

[orangeman]

Daily Mail publisher settles Ryanair libel Mr O'Leary said the airline would continue separate legal action against Channel 4
A libel action brought by Ryanair has been settled out of court in Belfast.

The publishers of the Daily Mail and the Irish Daily Mail were the subjects of the action.

Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary said the deal vindicated the airline's standing as "one of Europe's safest airlines".

Mr O'Leary and his senior pilot were both at the High Court in Belfast for the resolution of proceedings against Associated Newspapers Ltd and Associated Newspapers (Ireland) Ltd.

Ryanair launched the action over articles based on a television documentary that claimed to reveal safety and fuel issues at the airline.

A statement read out by the newspapers' publishers as part of the confidential settlement acknowledged Ryanair planes fully complied with EU safety rules during three fuel emergency landings.

Separate legal action

"We are very pleased that the Mail has acted promptly to set the record straight in relation to our safety standards - time was of the essence," Mr O'Leary said.

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"We employ 9,500 aviation professionals and today's settlement vindicates that the quality of work they do in delivering what the IAA (Irish Aviation Authority) has confirmed is one of the safest airlines in Europe."

Mr O'Leary said the airline would continue separate legal action against Channel 4 over its Dispatches documentary.

The defamation proceedings were brought against Associated Newspapers Ltd and Associated Newspapers (Ireland) Ltd over an article that appeared last month in the Irish Daily Mail and the Mail Online.

Adverse weather

Following the settlement, Michael Kealey, the defendants' legal manager in Ireland, read a statement approved by the judge to the court.

The statement detailed how the article referred to claims made by a body describing itself as a Ryanair Pilot Group and other allegations broadcast in the Channel 4 Dispatches programme.

"Ryanair does not accept the results of the survey conducted by the interim council of this group, whose chairman is a KLM pilot, or that the group represents the views of the majority of Ryanair's pilots," Mr Kealey said.

Three fuel emergency landings made in July 2012 in Valencia, Spain, were also mentioned.

"We accept that the official report produced by the Irish safety agencies confirmed that all three aircraft took on extra fuel," he said.

"All three aircraft flew for over one hour more than planned due to adverse weather and diversions from Madrid to Valencia.

"All three aircraft fully complied with EU safety rules when landing safely in Valencia."


Mr Kealey said the airline had made clear that pilots with legitimate safety concerns should report them directly to Ryanair or to the Irish Aviation Authority, using confidential safety reporting systems.

"We also accept the recent confirmation issued by the independent Irish Aviation Authority that 'Ryanair's safety is on a par with the safest airlines in Europe' and acknowledge Ryanair's 29 year safety record," he said.

Chief pilot, Captain Ray Conway, also expressed satisfaction with the "comprehensive vindication and acknowledgment" of the airline's safety record.

"While I am unable to make specific comments concerning our ongoing legal proceedings regarding Channel 4's Dispatches programme, I wish to emphasise that Ryanair cannot and will not tolerate what were totally unjustified and inappropriate allegations in relation to our industry leading safety," he said.

"Safety has been, and will always be, the absolute priority for Ryanair."

[muppet]

Be careful muppet!!


Ryanair clips wings of online critics

Ryanair has outlined to a court in South Africa the steps it is taking around the globe to identify people who are making anonymous critical comments on the internet about its attitude towards safety.
The airline has secured an order forcing African telecoms group Telkom to furnish it with information that might help identify a person who has made internet postings using the tag alwaysflying. The company is also seeking information on a specific IP address in South Africa.
The person has made postings on an internet site called PPRuNe.org, which is used by pilots to discuss matters to do with their work.
Ryanair company secretary Juliusz Komorek told the court in an affidavit that one posting falsely portrayed the airline as having an incompetent flying crew and that this could affect the airline's reputation and business.
The posting read: "I don't care if it's wind/ delays/ weather or anything, if you are flying around your destination eating into alternate fuel then you shouldn't be a pilot. If they were employed at my company I would have fired the lot of them!"
Mr Komorek told the court the airline had no objection to honest, objective and legitimate comment, but would seek the removal of unlawful and wrong statements and seek a public apology.
The court was told Ryanair had engaged a law firm in Los Angeles, Holland & Knight LLP, to file libel proceedings against a number of defendants in the Los Angeles Superior Court.
It had also issued proceedings against Internet Brands in California, the registered owner of the PPRuNe.org site, and issued supoenas against Yahoo, Microsoft and Google in pursuit of information.
The information gathered was examined for it by specialist consultancy company Word to the Wise, which idenfied IP addresses in Ireland, the UK and South Africa.
It is understood Ryanair has indentified the person who used the 'always flying' tag and will take legal proceedings as a result. In some cases the airline has secured public apologies from people who made anonymous postings as well as donations to charities, according to one source.
Earlier this year Ryanair got court orders in the Republic instructing Eircom and UPC to provide it with information concerning the identity of parties whom, the High Court was told, had made postings that falsely impugned Ryanair's excellent safety record.
It has initiated up to six sets of legal proceedings in the Republic against individuals who made postings on PPRuNe.org concerning the airline, according to the source.

Bullying.

Anonymous keyboard warriors.

Do you want an apology now ?

You can discuss that with my legal team.

Meh.

[gerrykeegan]

Especially for you Muppet!    



Tell Michael O'Leary what you think!
Tuesday, 15th October 2013 11.35am

Ryanair today continued with its attempts to charm its customers with an invitation to passenger to tell Michael O'Leary exactly what they think of his airline.

It today launched a new online webform where passengers can directly contact CEO, Michael O'Leary, with suggestions on exactly what he can do with his airline.

This new webform is the latest in a series of initiatives by Ryanair to improve its battered customer service record.

It has already made its app free to download and removal the Recaptcha feature as well as a new website.

"Over the past 29 years Ryanair has grown from carrying 200,000 to over 81 million customers annually by offering lower fares, great service and choice to Europe's travellers. No other airline can match our low fares, our on-time arrivals, our tiny rate of cancellations, or lost bags, or our new fleet of over 300 aircraft. But we want to keep improving our industry leading customer service and so I'm looking forward to our customers' feedback via our new online webform, which can be accessed on Ryanair.com," Ryanair's Michael O'Leary said.

[muppet]

Especially for you Muppet!    



Tell Michael O'Leary what you think!
Tuesday, 15th October 2013 11.35am

Ryanair today continued with its attempts to charm its customers with an invitation to passenger to tell Michael O'Leary exactly what they think of his airline.

It today launched a new online webform where passengers can directly contact CEO, Michael O'Leary, with suggestions on exactly what he can do with his airline.

This new webform is the latest in a series of initiatives by Ryanair to improve its battered customer service record.

It has already made its app free to download and removal the Recaptcha feature as well as a new website.

"Over the past 29 years Ryanair has grown from carrying 200,000 to over 81 million customers annually by offering lower fares, great service and choice to Europe's travellers. No other airline can match our low fares, our on-time arrivals, our tiny rate of cancellations, or lost bags, or our new fleet of over 300 aircraft. But we want to keep improving our industry leading customer service and so I'm looking forward to our customers' feedback via our new online webform, which can be accessed on Ryanair.com," Ryanair's Michael O'Leary said.

If O'Leary treats his staff and passengers properly and keeps his prices low, he will clean up. It would be hard to criticise him if he achieves that.

Somehow I think either is unlikely with him at the helm, given his history.