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Sexual abuse aside I cant imagine there were too many schools which were ran by priests/christian brothers where physical abuse wasnt rife prior to 87/88?

Think it changed around that time whereby you were no longer allowed to hit schoolkids

As I only attended CB schools, I cannot confirm but would still have thought that prior to 1987, when corporal punishment became illegal, physical abuse was common in all schools.  Prior to 1987, physical violence in schools was still illegal but was accepted by most pupils as part of attending schools.  This level of violence by adults against children was also reflected in the playground where brutal fights were common place.

Prior to 1987, parents rarely made formal or informal complaints about violence against their children as they had been conditioned to such violence against pupils being the norm.

While being slapped with rulers, leather straps, etc (including the wooden wedges used to secure gym wall bars and climbing frames) was accepted by all, there were plenty of extreme examples of this being used sadistically by some teachers.  As BC1 noted above, the use of other 'weaponry' and especially fists was commonplace.

As a pupil I would have found a lot of the lay staff being more violent and sadistic than the Brothers.

Thankfully, the removal of corporal punishment in 1987 made schools less violent but it never removed the violence completely.

FFS I remember perusing through one of my teachers EDCO stationary books in the late 80's and there was two pages full of various leather straps and so forth for dishing out the beatings. Most teachers had some equipment or other in the desk.

Seems mad now, but was taken as the norm back then.

Cian Healy had a shoulder injury it seems, it looked a lot worse on Saturday all the same.

Is he out??

Big loss. Serious ball carrier and against England you need 4 props!

No he's in.

Considering a lot of people thought it was a HIA you'd hope the IRFU are doing the right thing.

Cian Healy had a shoulder injury it seems, it looked a lot worse on Saturday all the same.

Rte :

A fourth successive win for Wexford over their historically intimidating neighbours will guarantee them top spot in Division 1A

how did that go for them 

3 out of 4 is still shocking  And its better than 2 out of 3 which ain't bad.

The bigger question is who's got the bigger kick come the summer.

Davy has a habit of peaking teams early, Kilkenny never really put much effort into the league but you get the impression that this year Cody was under more pressure and they did.

I hate that 'hurling people' don't do that remark from Duignan

I got so many sly digs of the hurley that I lost count
it goes on in every game and lots of other stuff too

I think Micks problem was that he believed the dig of the hurl was aimed at the balls and the untold damage that could do, whereas Mick admitted throwing out a few digs himself but never to a mans nether region.

RH not coming across well!

P: Is the complainant a wonderful young woman?
RH: I don't know
P: Or is she a silly young woman?
RH: I think she is someone who has regretted what she's done
P: Regretted what she's done... with who?
RH: I'm not sure.

From Rosanna Cooney.

[allegedly]

As clockwork as rain, insinuations against a rape victim. What a tired and old playbook.

Insinuations?  No absolutely not. She allegedly made a complaint before. No one made any insinuation. Frankly Syferus the way you have behaved on here over this whole case is shocking. You have these men hung drawn and quartered based on the reports from the media. I know for an absolute fact that not everything is reported as I know people involved in it and am keeping my counsel. There is a pretty strong possibility of acquittal here due to the level of confusion and what Dinny referred to in regards to the what his Garda friend stated is very much the case it seems. You don't know if she was raped. You believe she was. No one on here does.

You probably should have stopped there, BC1.

It's very interesting to watch how much dirt is thrown at the girl (the alleged victim) while excuses are made for the alleged rapists. Double standards doesn't begin to describe this thread.

If anything we're quite balanced in throwing dirt in this thread. 

sc**bag thing to do and I'd say he'll end up losing the sky gig. Not acceptable under any circumstances and undermines him being critical of players behaviour on the pitch.

On a personal note, I think I'm more upset and disappointed because I quite like Carragher (Stevie G I can't warm to at all - even Souness is more likeable  ) as a pundit.

If the clip doing the rounds is all there was to it then Jamie is both ends of a bollox for spitting at the wee girl in the passengers seat.

Edit;

"The 40-year-old said: "It was a bit more than, 'Hiya Jamie, it was 2-1'. It went on for two or three times. I drove away at first and it just continued. I lost my head. I shouldn't have done it but I was thinking what is a grown man doing, carrying on like that two or three times with his daughter in the car?""

Even at that spitting by a grown man is disgusting and Jamie should be embarrassed.

There's a bit of sense in that as Scotland butchered two good try scoring chances when the game was still in the mix but in fairness to Sexton he did a fine job in saving one of them by slowing up the play and forcing the pass which didn't come off.
Stockdale missed a few tackles and someone flew up once and was caught in no man's land for another Scottish opportunity.

Fair play to the Irish lads though, they took most of what was on offer and it didn't look like the scots would close the margin.

England were poor yet again against the French, devoid of a plan it seems, but the French near gifted them the win at the death by not getting the kick in touch with the clock already run out!
Had to laugh a Paul O'Connell talking over the commentry at the second last English lineout about not complicating it and just ensuring you win possession and build, just as they were f**king it up much to Brian Moores histrionics.

Only placeholders for those fixtures exists as far as I'm aware.

I see some are fixed and some to be fixed and that's from the Antrim website;

http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/?compID=94758&leagueTable=y

Sunday fixtures are going to wreck the club leagues. Expect loads of Wednesday night games.

So it was OK for Michael Collins to commit murder?

The murder of who exactly?

The Cairo gang.

Fairly clear that he orchestrated this.

Completely clear that he had popular support for his overall goal.
It's clear that the democratic process was being frustrated/denied.

But that doesn't mean anything goes. Did he have popular support for a campaign of violence or this act of violence? What options did he have? Did he conform to the rules of war (admittedly pre Geneva convention)?

I don't have the answers to those last bits.

Pre the execution of the 1916 rebels it was clear that the armed movement didn't have much popular support for armed insurrection that is well documented.
The homerule bill was being stifled and whatever in Westminster during WW1 and beyond, but at the same time due to gerrymandered in build unionist majority and abuse of power in the north the nationalist minority there would not have had a whole pile of options either as can be seen by the way the civil rights movements were met on the streets across the north which were by and large peaceful. There was no movement to a common ground by unionists then before the IRA were able to function.

Is there much of a difference in post 1916 Dublin to late 60's, early 70's Belfast or Derry?

Fair play to Antrim for beating Offaly.
Limerick beat Galway. Not surprising . I dont think Galway are interested in 1A.
Last year they lost to wexford in the regular league but then put on the boosters and won the competition.

Galway losing games on purpose now? 8 points up at halftime at home, punters paid in and you're happy enough they lost? Strange

It was the same last year. I don't mind as they win the all Ireland again . They didn't have a full strength team out either.
I think they will win the league as well. Funny old world.

But it's silly to say being in 1B is a good thing, wile most games are competitive I'm sure the Galway hurlers would prefer to be playing at a higher grade each week, Championship form is different of course but I know where I'd much prefer to be as a player

Sure they're still in the league quarter finals away to Wexford and it wouldn't be a surprise if they won that one albeit it'll be a good test for them.
They were cruising in yesterdays game and whilst Limerick were ballsy the way they got back into the game they were far more near full strength and Galway hit some awful wides in the second half.
Limerick do need 1A, but even at that the new round robin championships allow teams to build up a head of steam.
With Galway in Leinster they've a bit more breathing space to get themselves into the AI semi-s.

What is the story with fixtures for the league?why is it taking so long? Alot have counties played a round of league this past weekend and we havent even gotten the fixtures yet?I was under the impression that the fixtures commitee starts work on this very soon after last year is over and the relegation/ promotion is finalised?

I'm guessing this Joe McDonagh Cup is throwing a spanner in the works. 5 group games. Top 2 teams play before the Leinster final first Sunday in July. I'm saying nothing 

They're probably Saturday fixtures like the Christy Ring, no?

Taking Italy out of the equation, has anyone won an away fixture other than Ireland?

So it was OK for Michael Collins to commit murder?

The murder of who exactly?

The Cairo gang.