Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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PadraicHenryPearse

#1185
New hostage video released, don't have full translation but the 1 hostage is blaming Bibi for not getting them  out amd the conditions are bad.

https://twitter.com/moneimpress/status/1718983504124334560?t=XvdbSYVwZnHziUdLFZrF_w&s=19

Milltown Row2

Aside from everything that is going on or what happened and who did what.

Is this the final solution to the Israeli problem (used these words on purpose)

What will Hamas gain from this? Will it set them back another 20 years or will EU/UK/USA through the UN actually take over the running of Gaza and allow it to become a state of its own?

Would Hamas take western help?

We'll be at 20,000 deaths minimum before this finish, any male over the age of 16 that stays in the north of the strip will be detained or killed
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

seafoid

In 2000 the population of Gaza was 1 million. Today it is 2 million. 
The people are totally dependent on humanitarian aid. 500 trucks per day. Europe pays for this. 
Israel destroyed the economy. Israel doesn't pay for anything. 

The population adds 34,000 people per year. 
Murdering 20,000 won't achieve anything. The Palestinians will not leave their homeland.

PadraicHenryPearse

#1188
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2023, 01:38:31 PMAside from everything that is going on or what happened and who did what.

Is this the final solution to the Israeli problem (used these words on purpose)

What will Hamas gain from this? Will it set them back another 20 years or will EU/UK/USA through the UN actually take over the running of Gaza and allow it to become a state of its own?

Would Hamas take western help?

We'll be at 20,000 deaths minimum before this finish, any male over the age of 16 that stays in the north of the strip will be detained or killed

there is no set back as there was no support from UK/US/EU. The 2 state solution is almost dead due to the actions of Israel creating facts on the ground while UK/US/EU enable them. Israel will never accept one state as they will never accept Palestinians as equals. Every elections leads to another escalation and massacre of Palestinians.

Arab states in the 80s recognised Israel, Hamas changed their charter in 2017, they offered a 15 year ceasefire when elected (if I remember correctly).

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-offers-long-term-ceasefire-in-exchange-for-end-of-blockade/

seafoid

Netanyahu told Israelis that there was a technical solution to the Palestinian question. A series of observation towers with hands free submachine guns and cameras to relay all occupation data to the army centre at the Erez Crossing for full control. The political side was covered by the Abraham accords with the big prize of a diplomatic relationship with Saudi at the end. Netanyahu though that the Palestinians were finished.

The first sign that something was wrong was at the World Cup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhbVB7Sv0FM

on 7 October Hamas took out the observation towers,
https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1711330417507197141
the Army centre at Erez and broke through Israel's first line of defence
the commander at Erez asked the Israeli air force to bomb his building.

Now the Muslim world is united against US regional power and Western hegemony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2wZXWbieuM

Other than that everything is fine.

befair

Quote from: seafoid on October 30, 2023, 02:27:17 PMNetanyahu told Israelis that there was a technical solution to the Palestinian question. A series of observation towers with hands free submachine guns and cameras to relay all occupation data to the army centre at the Erez Crossing for full control. The political side was covered by the Abraham accords with the big prize of a diplomatic relationship with Saudi at the end. Netanyahu though that the Palestinians were finished.

The first sign that something was wrong was at the World Cup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhbVB7Sv0FM

on 7 October Hamas took out the observation towers,
https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1711330417507197141
the Army centre at Erez and broke through Israel's first line of defence
the commander at Erez asked the Israeli air force to bomb his building.

Now the Muslim world is united against US regional power and Western hegemony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2wZXWbieuM

Other than that everything is fine.
In contrast, the Muslim world is silent about the Uyghur genocide in China

armaghniac

If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

seafoid

Quote from: armaghniac on October 30, 2023, 04:36:20 PMI'm not sure about the reliability of this, but it seems plausible

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1719000849299407012

That was covered in a Middle East Eye article.
The Egyptians were offered $20bn but Blinken had to pull the plan when it leaked out and the Arab street heard about it.
In fairness to the Brits they never proposed moving the taig quotient in Armagh and Tyrone to Scotland

armaghniac

#1193
Quote from: seafoid on October 30, 2023, 04:46:11 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 30, 2023, 04:36:20 PMI'm not sure about the reliability of this, but it seems plausible

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1719000849299407012

That was covered in a Middle East Eye article.
The Egyptians were offered $20bn but Blinken had to pull the plan when it leaked out and the Arab street heard about it.
In fairness to the Brits they never proposed moving the taig quotient in Armagh and Tyrone to Scotland

The Taigs left in Armagh and Tyrone were those on boggy mountains after they had moved the rest to Mayo and Galway.

Perhaps they should move the American Settlers from the West Bank to Gaza and move the people of Gaza to the West Bank?
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

LeoMc

Quote from: armaghniac on October 30, 2023, 05:11:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 30, 2023, 04:46:11 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 30, 2023, 04:36:20 PMI'm not sure about the reliability of this, but it seems plausible

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1719000849299407012

That was covered in a Middle East Eye article.
The Egyptians were offered $20bn but Blinken had to pull the plan when it leaked out and the Arab street heard about it.
In fairness to the Brits they never proposed moving the taig quotient in Armagh and Tyrone to Scotland

The Taigs left in Armagh and Tyrone were those on boggy mountains after they had moved the rest to Mayo and Galway.

Perhaps they should move the American Settlers from the West Bank to Gaza and move the people of Gaza to the West Bank?
Swap a potentially rich Mediterranean city state for a barren hilly desert!

They should move the settlers from the West Bank back to their own side of the border.



PadraicHenryPearse

Keir Starmer, Lammy, Hodge endorses war crimes live on camera, no issue.

Andy McDonald (Lab) endorses Israelis and Palestinians living together peacefully and he is suspended.

Torys also removed someone for calling for a ceasefire.





Itchy

It is shocking what we are seeing going on here. Obvious genocide and ethnic cleansing being carried out in full view of the world with almost complete silence from the western leaders and media. It's genuinely shocking.

dec

Original Likud party platform

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/original-party-platform-of-the-likud-party

"between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty. "