McKenna Cup 2024

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

https://twitter.com/BMG_11/status/691312301153083394

Can't argue with that. Despicable, clear red card. Can't wait to see that defended.

Oh look, it already has been.

[oakleafgael]

Yeah he jumped into him alright but in fairness he was lookin at the ball. U honestly trying to say that he elbowed him in the face deliberately right in front of the ref. Rodgers was unlucky in that he was kind of crouched over when it happened

Jesus Christ lad would you quit defending the indefensible. He led with his elbow into another player, that alone damns him regardless of the result.

Regarding the rest of the sending offs/non sending offs. McCarron was unlucky and will likely get his overturned. Barton shouldn't be getting involved in shite like that but its no surprise that he is. Morgan should have seen a straight red as should McNamee, slide tackle is a red card as well all day long.

[smelmoth]

https://twitter.com/BMG_11/status/691312301153083394

Can't argue with that. Despicable, clear red card. Can't wait to see that defended.

Oh look, it already has been.

That is not in any way a clear red card.

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

https://twitter.com/BMG_11/status/691312301153083394

Can't argue with that. Despicable, clear red card. Can't wait to see that defended.

Oh look, it already has been.

That is not in any way a clear red card.

Why not, Tiernan?

That's Tadhg Kennelly / Nicholas Murphy stuff there.

Thread's gone quiet. Very quiet.

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https://twitter.com/BMG_11/status/691312301153083394

Can't argue with that. Despicable, clear red card. Can't wait to see that defended.

Oh look, it already has been.

That is not in any way a clear red card.

Why not, Tiernan?

That's Tadhg Kennelly / Nicholas Murphy stuff there.

Tiernan McCanns reputation as a coward just reinforced by that clip. So what he was looking at the ball he led straight into another player with an elbow! Hopefully he gets another hefty ban for this although he'll likely appeal the indefensible again rather than man up and accept his punishment!!!

[Il Bomber Destro]

No ruckus would have started of the keeper didn't try to lift the Derry man up,that started the whole thing, still think an automatic red to the 3rd man into any row. flare up would cut out any row ever happening  in Gaelic football or any other sport for that matter

Agree totally. As the rules stand I feel the referee got the cards right in this incident. For a team that takes gamesmanship to the brink Tyrone cannot really complain when an opposition player overreacts. At least the Derry man got enough contact to send him to the ground. Still Tyrone can play football when they want too. Derry also seem to have improved. Should be a cracker in May.

As an Armagh man I have to say the Athletic Grounds has a great atmosphere and there have been a number of exciting games there in the last while.

No ruckus would have started if the Derry man hadn't feigned being hit in the face.

Watch it again. The video clearly shows mcnamee pushing/striking him firmly in the throat/chin area. Mcnamee was lucky to escape with only a yellow card. Mccarron was possibly a bit unlucky in this instance as he only seems to push barton in the chest.

It actually doesn't clearly show that at all. He gets pushed in the chest and goes down clutching his face.

[smelmoth]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

[Throw ball]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

I think you are fighting a losing battle here. (Not with me by the way!)

[Il Bomber Destro]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

Get your eyes tested on the McNamee one, mate.

[redhandefender]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

Spot on, mc namee deserved to go was stupid. his man didnt get hit in the face possibly pushed in the neck.

Mc Cann had elbows at side and mans head was down, and he wasnt looking. If the fella had been standing up straight he wouldnt have even flinched.

My how Derry and Armagh have slipped that they have to go down this line of bitter crying. Roll on the league

[Throw ball]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

Get your eyes tested on the McNamee one, mate.

Q.E.D.

[smelmoth]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

Get your eyes tested on the McNamee one, mate.

I am using the word "head" to refer the brain containing body part located above the neck.
I am using the word "chest" to refer to the lung containing body part located below the neck.

I think this is the argument that we defer on

[Il Bomber Destro]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

Get your eyes tested on the McNamee one, mate.

I am using the word "head" to refer the brain containing body part located above the neck.
I am using the word "chest" to refer to the lung containing body part located below the neck.

I think this is the argument that we defer on

I gathered that's what you were saying, pal. Hence why I said you need your eyes tested.

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

From the Tyrone GAA website, red card offences include:

To strike or attempt to strike an opponent with head, arm, elbow, hand or knee

No mention of swinging or pointed elbows. No mention of natural positions. No mention of it being deliberate. Strike with the elbow = red card.

A clear red card all year long. But despite being hoisted on your own petard, keep fighting your own fight.

[smelmoth]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

Get your eyes tested on the McNamee one, mate.

I am using the word "head" to refer the brain containing body part located above the neck.
I am using the word "chest" to refer to the lung containing body part located below the neck.

I think this is the argument that we defer on

I gathered that's what you were saying, pal. Hence why I said you need your eyes tested.

I know you are not going to change your mind so I'm not going to try. But I would plead with you to do just one thing - hand over your car keys and driver's licence to a responsible adult. You cannot in good conscience take to the road in control of a vehicle. Being totally serious. Calm down and start to believe what your eyes are really seeing.