Man Utd Thread:

[Cunny Funt]

A great opportunity to finish the weekend in 5th wasted.  The fightback and scoring 3 goals against a team that has one of the best defensive records this season is at least a few positives to take out of that game.

Tactics, line up,formation allowed the home side to control the game for 60 minutes and lead 2-0, Jones,Pereira so weak on those goals. The subs made, changes of tactics and formation allowed Man United to take a 2-3 lead.  The late leveler should not have stood, ball was controlled with the arm before he scored. Either way Uniteds defending for that goal was truly awful. 

[Aaron Boone]

Chris Smalling doing ok at Roma by all accounts. He scored the opening goal today in a 3-0 win over Brescia.

[thewobbler]

I wasn't expecting Utd to win or draw before the game started. But to concede a late goal to lose 2 points is shocking.

United are raw with few leaders on the field presently, things like that are gonna happen. Regardless of whether Ole is up to the job I'd be heartened by the spirit shown to get back in the game cause for the first 70 minutes they were completely outplayed

Worth remembering the 3 goalscorers were 18, 19 and 22

It's always good for the soul to seek out positives. There'll be three dozen or more lads aged 22 and under score in the EPL this season. Doesn't make them to play for Man Utd.

[Geoff Tipps]

I wasn't expecting Utd to win or draw before the game started. But to concede a late goal to lose 2 points is shocking.

United are raw with few leaders on the field presently, things like that are gonna happen. Regardless of whether Ole is up to the job I'd be heartened by the spirit shown to get back in the game cause for the first 70 minutes they were completely outplayed

Worth remembering the 3 goalscorers were 18, 19 and 22

That's the spirit! Just don't look at the league table 

[laoislad]

Boom,!

Lol

lol indeed.

Indeed. 2-0 down playing shite and then score 3 goals. Then concede to draw. Happy enough with that to be honest.

Played for about 20 minutes in the game. Very little to be happy about. Only for de gea in first half it would have been worse. Would have been absolute robbery if we won today.

Plenty to be positive about. Came back into the game from 2-0 down when previously probably would have lost by more. Also the 3 young goal scorers are academy players. The come back should build belief.

Lol

[Look-Up!]

Unfortunately for Utd fans that game is typical of their performances at the moment. They have undoubted quality in their squad and for 10 minutes in that game when they got a run on Sheffield they looked like they could score for fun. But the rest of the time they were abysmal. I thought if they had kept going after the 3rd goal they would have won 4-2.
Midfield was terrible. And no one to hold the ball up front. Jones a target for opposition tactics. Fair play to Sheffield, they played great stuff and out-muscled them for long spells but they are essentially a championship outfit and shouldn't be able to knock the ball around like RM against a club like Utd. McTominay and Pogba will improve things and I think there are big performances in them and they should be well up for the City/Spurs matches coming up and may well pick up points, but I just cannot see where the consistency will come from.
January transfer window should see some improvements but I think the wrong man is at the helm. The performance against Liverpool, the 10 minute spell yesterday, these are only papering over the cracks IMO and prolonging the inevitable. There is a very good manager available at the moment with no buy out fee. He has interest from abroad and Arsenal and Everton will probably be on the look out soon. It's worth at least considering. After that who are the other options if they decide to limp on till summer?

[magpie seanie]

Hardly ever on here. Lol.

[magpie seanie]

Unfortunately for Utd fans that game is typical of their performances at the moment. They have undoubted quality in their squad and for 10 minutes in that game when they got a run on Sheffield they looked like they could score for fun. But the rest of the time they were abysmal. I thought if they had kept going after the 3rd goal they would have won 4-2.
Midfield was terrible. And no one to hold the ball up front. Jones a target for opposition tactics. Fair play to Sheffield, they played great stuff and out-muscled them for long spells but they are essentially a championship outfit and shouldn't be able to knock the ball around like RM against a club like Utd. McTominay and Pogba will improve things and I think there are big performances in them and they should be well up for the City/Spurs matches coming up and may well pick up points, but I just cannot see where the consistency will come from.
January transfer window should see some improvements but I think the wrong man is at the helm. The performance against Liverpool, the 10 minute spell yesterday, these are only papering over the cracks IMO and prolonging the inevitable. There is a very good manager available at the moment with no buy out fee. He has interest from abroad and Arsenal and Everton will probably be on the look out soon. It's worth at least considering. After that who are the other options if they decide to limp on till summer?

Ya but when they sat back I was fearful that the equaliser was coming. The VAR decision was close but probably right for that goal but it's absolutely inexplicable how the first goal wasn't disallowed. You can say Jones is crap, Jones was weak etc but he was fouled. Overall though United were really bad for 70 minutes and should be happy with a draw after that. When things were going bad I was delighted to see how pissed off Maguire was. Thought James again was a real positive. Martial seemed to be in one of his sulky moods. McTominay is now a huge loss when he's not there.

I'm hoping for reinforcements in January but not holding my breath.

[Nanderson]

If United were to sign 2 players in January that could get us back to European spots realistically who would yous want? Mine would be Bruno Fernandes and a CB like Varane/Kimpembe/Sule

[Ambrose]

There is a very good manager available at the moment with no buy out fee. He has interest from abroad and Arsenal and Everton will probably be on the look out soon. It's worth at least considering.

[seafoid]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/08/alex-ferguson-retires-manchester-united

Ferguson retires after 26 years as Manchester United manager
Last game in charge will be on May 19th before he joins board of the club


First published: Wed, May 8, 2013, 08:00

Sir Alex Ferguson will retire as Manchester United manager at the end of the season in the 27th year of a tenure that has made him the most successful in British football.
While he will become a United director and ambassador, the executive are now charged with having to appoint the successor to a man who has won 13 league titles, two Champions Leagues, the Cup Winners' Cup, five FA Cups and four League Cups. In February, Ed Woodward, the incoming chief executive, said there was plan in place for when the Scot did step down.
Regarding his decision, Ferguson said: "The decision to retire is one that I have thought a great deal about and one that I have not taken lightly. It is the right time. It was important to me to leave an organisation in the strongest possible shape and I believe I have done so. The quality of this league winning squad, and the balance of ages within it, bodes well for continued success at the highest level whilst the structure of the youth set-up will ensure that the long- term future of the club remains a bright one.

[Look-Up!]

Unfortunately for Utd fans that game is typical of their performances at the moment. They have undoubted quality in their squad and for 10 minutes in that game when they got a run on Sheffield they looked like they could score for fun. But the rest of the time they were abysmal. I thought if they had kept going after the 3rd goal they would have won 4-2.
Midfield was terrible. And no one to hold the ball up front. Jones a target for opposition tactics. Fair play to Sheffield, they played great stuff and out-muscled them for long spells but they are essentially a championship outfit and shouldn't be able to knock the ball around like RM against a club like Utd. McTominay and Pogba will improve things and I think there are big performances in them and they should be well up for the City/Spurs matches coming up and may well pick up points, but I just cannot see where the consistency will come from.
January transfer window should see some improvements but I think the wrong man is at the helm. The performance against Liverpool, the 10 minute spell yesterday, these are only papering over the cracks IMO and prolonging the inevitable. There is a very good manager available at the moment with no buy out fee. He has interest from abroad and Arsenal and Everton will probably be on the look out soon. It's worth at least considering. After that who are the other options if they decide to limp on till summer?

Ya but when they sat back I was fearful that the equaliser was coming. The VAR decision was close but probably right for that goal but it's absolutely inexplicable how the first goal wasn't disallowed. You can say Jones is crap, Jones was weak etc but he was fouled. Overall though United were really bad for 70 minutes and should be happy with a draw after that. When things were going bad I was delighted to see how pissed off Maguire was. Thought James again was a real positive. Martial seemed to be in one of his sulky moods. McTominay is now a huge loss when he's not there.

I'm hoping for reinforcements in January but not holding my breath.

Agree with most of that. I thought they sat back and gave the initiative back for sure. McTominay has a bit of physicality and courage which is otherwise lacking in the midfield area. Pogba for all his faults doesn't get pushed off the ball either. At first glance I thought the last goal would be disallowed but in the replay from the near side angle he clearly leads with his shoulder and it's a goal all day for me. I'll disagree for the Jones incident. For me it's a goal all day long too. Jones gets muscled out of it, pure and simple. His body position for protecting the ball is wrong IMO. He shows too much of the ball goal side to the attacker and lets him in to challenge. He should have been covering goal side more with his body to force the attacker onto his right.

[Look-Up!]

There is a very good manager available at the moment with no buy out fee. He has interest from abroad and Arsenal and Everton will probably be on the look out soon. It's worth at least considering.

[Maroon Manc]

Unfortunately for Utd fans that game is typical of their performances at the moment. They have undoubted quality in their squad and for 10 minutes in that game when they got a run on Sheffield they looked like they could score for fun. But the rest of the time they were abysmal. I thought if they had kept going after the 3rd goal they would have won 4-2.
Midfield was terrible. And no one to hold the ball up front. Jones a target for opposition tactics. Fair play to Sheffield, they played great stuff and out-muscled them for long spells but they are essentially a championship outfit and shouldn't be able to knock the ball around like RM against a club like Utd. McTominay and Pogba will improve things and I think there are big performances in them and they should be well up for the City/Spurs matches coming up and may well pick up points, but I just cannot see where the consistency will come from.
January transfer window should see some improvements but I think the wrong man is at the helm. The performance against Liverpool, the 10 minute spell yesterday, these are only papering over the cracks IMO and prolonging the inevitable. There is a very good manager available at the moment with no buy out fee. He has interest from abroad and Arsenal and Everton will probably be on the look out soon. It's worth at least considering. After that who are the other options if they decide to limp on till summer?

Ya but when they sat back I was fearful that the equaliser was coming. The VAR decision was close but probably right for that goal but it's absolutely inexplicable how the first goal wasn't disallowed. You can say Jones is crap, Jones was weak etc but he was fouled. Overall though United were really bad for 70 minutes and should be happy with a draw after that. When things were going bad I was delighted to see how pissed off Maguire was. Thought James again was a real positive. Martial seemed to be in one of his sulky moods. McTominay is now a huge loss when he's not there.

I'm hoping for reinforcements in January but not holding my breath.

Did they mention it at all, watched the game in the pub and assumed the goal would be disallowed when I saw the foul.

Pereira not up to it yet has played nearly in every game this season which shows the state of United's midfield. I think Ole mentioned possibly bringing players in on loan in January which makes sense given its unlikely he'll get his first choices.

[magpie seanie]

Unfortunately for Utd fans that game is typical of their performances at the moment. They have undoubted quality in their squad and for 10 minutes in that game when they got a run on Sheffield they looked like they could score for fun. But the rest of the time they were abysmal. I thought if they had kept going after the 3rd goal they would have won 4-2.
Midfield was terrible. And no one to hold the ball up front. Jones a target for opposition tactics. Fair play to Sheffield, they played great stuff and out-muscled them for long spells but they are essentially a championship outfit and shouldn't be able to knock the ball around like RM against a club like Utd. McTominay and Pogba will improve things and I think there are big performances in them and they should be well up for the City/Spurs matches coming up and may well pick up points, but I just cannot see where the consistency will come from.
January transfer window should see some improvements but I think the wrong man is at the helm. The performance against Liverpool, the 10 minute spell yesterday, these are only papering over the cracks IMO and prolonging the inevitable. There is a very good manager available at the moment with no buy out fee. He has interest from abroad and Arsenal and Everton will probably be on the look out soon. It's worth at least considering. After that who are the other options if they decide to limp on till summer?

Ya but when they sat back I was fearful that the equaliser was coming. The VAR decision was close but probably right for that goal but it's absolutely inexplicable how the first goal wasn't disallowed. You can say Jones is crap, Jones was weak etc but he was fouled. Overall though United were really bad for 70 minutes and should be happy with a draw after that. When things were going bad I was delighted to see how pissed off Maguire was. Thought James again was a real positive. Martial seemed to be in one of his sulky moods. McTominay is now a huge loss when he's not there.

I'm hoping for reinforcements in January but not holding my breath.

Did they mention it at all, watched the game in the pub and assumed the goal would be disallowed when I saw the foul.

Pereira not up to it yet has played nearly in every game this season which shows the state of United's midfield. I think Ole mentioned possibly bringing players in on loan in January which makes sense given its unlikely he'll get his first choices.

This is exactly the point. Jones might have been weak or in the wrong position or any number of other things but it was as clear a foul as you'll ever see.

United do need a few players in and better to get guys on loan that wasting money in a pressure situation.