McKenna Cup 2024

[smelmoth]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

From the Tyrone GAA website, red card offences include:

To strike or attempt to strike an opponent with head, arm, elbow, hand or knee

No mention of swinging or pointed elbows. No mention of natural positions. No mention of it being deliberate. Strike with the elbow = red card.

A clear red card all year long. But despite being hoisted on your own petard, keep fighting your own fight.

You have lost the run of yourself there. The arm is tucked against his own body. Any contact with his elbow in that position cannot be a red card?

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

From the Tyrone GAA website, red card offences include:

To strike or attempt to strike an opponent with head, arm, elbow, hand or knee

No mention of swinging or pointed elbows. No mention of natural positions. No mention of it being deliberate. Strike with the elbow = red card.

A clear red card all year long. But despite being hoisted on your own petard, keep fighting your own fight.

You have lost the run of yourself there. The arm is tucked against his own body. Any contact with his elbow in that position cannot be a red card?

He struck an opponent with his elbow, as you admitted earlier. Stone wall red card, per rule book.

[blewuporstuffed]

Anyone who thinks the McCann challenge is a red card should forget about ever going to a game of football.

[screenexile]

Anyone who thinks the McCann challenge is a red card should forget about ever going to a game of football.

He jumped into a player leading with his elbow causing the player to get 14 stitches...on what planet is that not a red card?? He got a man sent off for rubbing his f**king head!!!

[smelmoth]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

From the Tyrone GAA website, red card offences include:

To strike or attempt to strike an opponent with head, arm, elbow, hand or knee

No mention of swinging or pointed elbows. No mention of natural positions. No mention of it being deliberate. Strike with the elbow = red card.

A clear red card all year long. But despite being hoisted on your own petard, keep fighting your own fight.

You have lost the run of yourself there. The arm is tucked against his own body. Any contact with his elbow in that position cannot be a red card?

He struck an opponent with his elbow, as you admitted earlier. Stone wall red card, per rule book.

I said he made contact with the elbow. Not all contact is a strike, You do know that?

[Il Bomber Destro]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

Get your eyes tested on the McNamee one, mate.

I am using the word "head" to refer the brain containing body part located above the neck.
I am using the word "chest" to refer to the lung containing body part located below the neck.

I think this is the argument that we defer on

I gathered that's what you were saying, pal. Hence why I said you need your eyes tested.

I know you are not going to change your mind so I'm not going to try. But I would plead with you to do just one thing - hand over your car keys and driver's licence to a responsible adult. You cannot in good conscience take to the road in control of a vehicle. Being totally serious. Calm down and start to believe what your eyes are really seeing.

I think you're in denial and trying to reflect your own insecurities onto me.

[blewuporstuffed]

Anyone who thinks the McCann challenge is a red card should forget about ever going to a game of football.

He jumped into a player leading with his elbow causing the player to get 14 stitches...on what planet is that not a red card?? He got a man sent off for rubbing his f**king head!!!

The injury the player picked up, while awful is irrelevant to whether its a red card or not, as is McCanns previous history of transgressions .

Im sorry lads, thats not a red in a million years

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

People are seeing what they want to see.

I see clear evidence of McNamee striking to the head - not the chest. Bang to rights on that one. Should have been a red card.

McCann does make contact with the elbow but its not a swinging or a pointed elbow. Its tight against his body in a natural position. If he did that deliberately he disguised it brilliantly. No red card

From the Tyrone GAA website, red card offences include:

To strike or attempt to strike an opponent with head, arm, elbow, hand or knee

No mention of swinging or pointed elbows. No mention of natural positions. No mention of it being deliberate. Strike with the elbow = red card.

A clear red card all year long. But despite being hoisted on your own petard, keep fighting your own fight.

You have lost the run of yourself there. The arm is tucked against his own body. Any contact with his elbow in that position cannot be a red card?

He struck an opponent with his elbow, as you admitted earlier. Stone wall red card, per rule book.

I said he made contact with the elbow. Not all contact is a strike, You do know that?

Of course I do, but in the interests of fairness, I googled strike.

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/strike

to deliver (a blow or stroke) to (a person)
to come or cause to come into sudden or violent contact (with)

Based on the above, it was a clear strike and a clear red card.

You shouldn't drink on a sunday night.

[Il Bomber Destro]

It clearly wasn't a strike.

If anything it was dangerous and wreckless, it's certainly not clear cut in any way. Only McCann will know if there was any intent involved.

[screenexile]

Anyone who thinks the McCann challenge is a red card should forget about ever going to a game of football.

He jumped into a player leading with his elbow causing the player to get 14 stitches...on what planet is that not a red card?? He got a man sent off for rubbing his f**king head!!!

The injury the player picked up, while awful is irrelevant to whether its a red card or not, as is McCanns previous history of transgressions .

Im sorry lads, thats not a red in a million years

Jumping into a player leading with the elbow and connecting with his head is a clear red card all day long. It's also a dirty and cowardly act!!

[Il Bomber Destro]

Anyone who thinks the McCann challenge is a red card should forget about ever going to a game of football.

He jumped into a player leading with his elbow causing the player to get 14 stitches...on what planet is that not a red card?? He got a man sent off for rubbing his f**king head!!!

The injury the player picked up, while awful is irrelevant to whether its a red card or not, as is McCanns previous history of transgressions .

Im sorry lads, thats not a red in a million years

Jumping into a player leading with the elbow and connecting with his head is a clear red card all day long. It's also a dirty and cowardly act!!

You should get a dialysis machine to remove some of that bitterness from you.

Context is needed here.

Jumping into a player leading with the elbow - there was a breaking ball there, McCann wasn't the only lad throwing himself into the mix there, the ball is patted down the opposite way and McCann has to change direction from his momentum to follow it. It's very unlucky for Rogers but I'm not sure of the malice or intent there from McCann. You could make a case for a red card on grounds of dangerous or reckless play but certainly not striking or intent - that's just your bitterness coming to the fore.

[Wildweasel74]

Just see it there, don't know if its a red card, but its a def yellow, the fact that the ref was straight in front of it and didn't give a free like the Lynn incident says volumes about his capacity to ref, not a wonder they bringing in the women to ref

[north down]

A hell of a lot of whinging here from Derry supporters - they are really letting themselves down. If Derry had of closed it out in the dying seconds and held on to win by a point, then none of these non-events being scrutinised would have been mentioned. Derry need to learn from their mistakes and not continue to make excuses.

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

It clearly wasn't a strike.

If anything it was dangerous and wreckless, it's certainly not clear cut in any way. Only McCann will know if there was any intent involved.

Not a strike, but dangerous and reckless you say?

From gaa.ie, among the list of Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)

Inflicting injury recklessly.

http://www.gaa.ie/the-gaa/rules-regulations/

A clear red card all year long.

[ONeill]

A lot of Derry boys on here obviously jealous of Tiernan's winter tan.