Kerry v Throne AIQF - Saturday July 1st

[Taylor]

Very disappointed in the performance on Saturday.
We always seem to have those flat performances in us and we seem to be waiting for someone else to be a game changer (particulary around the middle .

Myler did as good as anyone has on P Clifford.
Surprised R Canavan was hooked.
McShane still looks off the pace.

Overall Kerry were much the superior team but we let them play - I would have loved to have seen how they reacted if we had a right cut at them.
They matched fire with fire and that seemed to put us off.

CP was full of pissheads on Saturday - one county seemed to have the majority of them but then again that may have been because they had the majority of supporters there. No county can claim to be angels here mind you.

It is a major problem for cship games - stewards need to start refusing permission

[square_ball]

Ruairi Canavan came off with an injury according to Dooher.

[WT4E]

Very disappointed in the performance on Saturday.
We always seem to have those flat performances in us and we seem to be waiting for someone else to be a game changer (particulary around the middle .

Myler did as good as anyone has on P Clifford.
Surprised R Canavan was hooked.
McShane still looks off the pace.

Overall Kerry were much the superior team but we let them play - I would have loved to have seen how they reacted if we had a right cut at them.
They matched fire with fire and that seemed to put us off.

CP was full of pissheads on Saturday - one county seemed to have the majority of them but then again that may have been because they had the majority of supporters there. No county can claim to be angels here mind you.

It is a major problem for cship games - stewards need to start refusing permission

Walking out of the ground before final whistle in Tyrone Match was a breath taking site. Monaghan supporters coming in very happy and sober whilst Armagh where majority legless! I take it this i the county you refer to. And yes they have to take a hold on this.

[delgany]

Very disappointed in the performance on Saturday.
We always seem to have those flat performances in us and we seem to be waiting for someone else to be a game changer (particulary around the middle .

Myler did as good as anyone has on P Clifford.
Surprised R Canavan was hooked.
McShane still looks off the pace.

Overall Kerry were much the superior team but we let them play - I would have loved to have seen how they reacted if we had a right cut at them.
They matched fire with fire and that seemed to put us off.

CP was full of pissheads on Saturday - one county seemed to have the majority of them but then again that may have been because they had the majority of supporters there. No county can claim to be angels here mind you.

It is a major problem for cship games - stewards need to start refusing permission

Conor Meyler was continually fouled , even when the match was  long over - cynical behaviour .

[Piskin]

Very disappointed in the performance on Saturday.
We always seem to have those flat performances in us and we seem to be waiting for someone else to be a game changer (particulary around the middle .

Myler did as good as anyone has on P Clifford.
Surprised R Canavan was hooked.
McShane still looks off the pace.

Overall Kerry were much the superior team but we let them play - I would have loved to have seen how they reacted if we had a right cut at them.
They matched fire with fire and that seemed to put us off.

CP was full of pissheads on Saturday - one county seemed to have the majority of them but then again that may have been because they had the majority of supporters there. No county can claim to be angels here mind you.

It is a major problem for cship games - stewards need to start refusing permission

Not half as drunk as you writing this post lol

[TyroneGael89]

I headed to Croke Park on Saturday knowing it was going to be a tough ask but expecting to make Kerry work hard for it if they were to win. Such a shocking performance from the boys, sitting in the stand it came across as a real lack of fight and desire. I know Logan & Dooher are getting the brunt of the blame but I think there's a real softness and attitude problem with some of those players that need weeded out.

As others have mentioned, alot of Armagh supporters made a complete show of themselves. The bus to Drumcondra was full of idiots half-tanked dishing out abuse to anyone wearing a Tyrone top in front of families with young children. Says it all about these idiots that one of them asked me then was this the stop to get off for Croke Park. Kerry supporters around me in the stadium were actually mortified for them as the match neared the end and were far more classy.

[tyrone08]

I headed to Croke Park on Saturday knowing it was going to be a tough ask but expecting to make Kerry work hard for it if they were to win. Such a shocking performance from the boys, sitting in the stand it came across as a real lack of fight and desire. I know Logan & Dooher are getting the brunt of the blame but I think there's a real softness and attitude problem with some of those players that need weeded out.

As others have mentioned, alot of Armagh supporters made a complete show of themselves. The bus to Drumcondra was full of idiots half-tanked dishing out abuse to anyone wearing a Tyrone top in front of families with young children. Says it all about these idiots that one of them asked me then was this the stop to get off for Croke Park. Kerry supporters around me in the stadium were actually mortified for them as the match neared the end and were far more classy.

Would Fully agree with the softness. Over the last 5-8 years alot  of the players seem more concerned with their image rather than winning a dirty ball. Think Sean Cavanagh touched on it in his book as well. I don't think dooher management style would suit these lads either as I would doubt if they appreciate the tough love approach.

Tyrone ones probably should expect a difficult few years ahead.

[seafoid]

I headed to Croke Park on Saturday knowing it was going to be a tough ask but expecting to make Kerry work hard for it if they were to win. Such a shocking performance from the boys, sitting in the stand it came across as a real lack of fight and desire. I know Logan & Dooher are getting the brunt of the blame but I think there's a real softness and attitude problem with some of those players that need weeded out.

As others have mentioned, alot of Armagh supporters made a complete show of themselves. The bus to Drumcondra was full of idiots half-tanked dishing out abuse to anyone wearing a Tyrone top in front of families with young children. Says it all about these idiots that one of them asked me then was this the stop to get off for Croke Park. Kerry supporters around me in the stadium were actually mortified for them as the match neared the end and were far more classy.

Tyrone won that all Ireland at the latest possible moment. That team is in fade mode now. It happens to all teams.  They are like Cork post 2012 or Donegal post 2014.

[Ciarrai_thuaidh]

Very surprised with the ease of the Kerry win Saturday as many are. I knew Tyrone had difficulty with Westmeath but they aren't bad. Then Tyrone hammered Donegal so I guess no more than ourselves the form was patchy. However the lack of much intensity or even pace from Tyrone was shocking. David Cliff and Geaney missed a lot of shots that should really have been scores so on another day the margin could have been even wider.

I did think before the game that Tyrone's structure might be a problem for them in a way. Canvans, McCurry and Donnelly all starting and being out and out forwards didn't make sense with the overall plan. And that turned out to be the case in the game. Mattie Donnelly was well away from goal largely and Graham O'Sullivan made hay and was involved in loads of attacks. McCurry spent a lot of time running around out the field aswell but was well shackled by Jason Foley all day. Darragh Canavan kicked a great point in the first half and got one more but Tom O'Sullivan had every bit as much effect on the game. Ruari Canavan showed his class and that he's one for the future, gave Paul Murphy a bit of bother for a while. Was surprised he was taken off - someone said above he was injured which would make sense. Overall though the personnel and structure of Tyrone didn't seem to make total sense like it did 2 years ago to be fair. A lot of that down to McShane being out of course.

At half time, was happy enough but thought turning around against the wind we would be in for a bit of a battle but after 40 odd minutes it was all over really. How much Tyrone were effected by the 3 games in 3 weekends and/or just had a bad day I don't know. Kerry were good without being stellar in some departments. A tough test against Derry ahead, who certainly won't lack pace or drive. On form it looks like a Kerry v Dublin final on form BUT Derry would only love to ruin that narrative.

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/07/03/mayo-people-will-put-up-with-a-lot-but-they-wont-accept-meek-surrender/

For Tyrone, there's no such comfort. They'll need to go diving deep into the basin to find the good in their season. The blooming of Darragh Canavan is an obvious highlight but even he was wiped out by Kerry on Saturday. Peter Harte and Mattie Donnelly will both be 33 by the time next season starts. Kieran McGeary and Cathal McShane are ghosts of the players who won the All-Ireland two years ago, Conor McKenna is in Australia. Tyrone's year has very little to recommend it.

[Milltown Row2]

I headed to Croke Park on Saturday knowing it was going to be a tough ask but expecting to make Kerry work hard for it if they were to win. Such a shocking performance from the boys, sitting in the stand it came across as a real lack of fight and desire. I know Logan & Dooher are getting the brunt of the blame but I think there's a real softness and attitude problem with some of those players that need weeded out.

As others have mentioned, alot of Armagh supporters made a complete show of themselves. The bus to Drumcondra was full of idiots half-tanked dishing out abuse to anyone wearing a Tyrone top in front of families with young children. Says it all about these idiots that one of them asked me then was this the stop to get off for Croke Park. Kerry supporters around me in the stadium were actually mortified for them as the match neared the end and were far more classy.

Tyrone won that all Ireland at the latest possible moment. That team is in fade mode now. It happens to all teams.  They are like Cork post 2012 or Donegal post 2014.

Would Dublin's players not be in the fade mode either? Cluxton and co are some age for county set up

[seafoid]

I headed to Croke Park on Saturday knowing it was going to be a tough ask but expecting to make Kerry work hard for it if they were to win. Such a shocking performance from the boys, sitting in the stand it came across as a real lack of fight and desire. I know Logan & Dooher are getting the brunt of the blame but I think there's a real softness and attitude problem with some of those players that need weeded out.

As others have mentioned, alot of Armagh supporters made a complete show of themselves. The bus to Drumcondra was full of idiots half-tanked dishing out abuse to anyone wearing a Tyrone top in front of families with young children. Says it all about these idiots that one of them asked me then was this the stop to get off for Croke Park. Kerry supporters around me in the stadium were actually mortified for them as the match neared the end and were far more classy.

Tyrone won that all Ireland at the latest possible moment. That team is in fade mode now. It happens to all teams.  They are like Cork post 2012 or Donegal post 2014.

Would Dublin's players not be in the fade mode either? Cluxton and co are some age for county set up

I think so

[rrhf]

Most of them took a break at some point. In Tyrone we keep expecting the guys to perform, from Mc Kenna cup throughout. How are we going to develop if we are so judgemental and critical all the time. Maybe some guys can't go the extra mile anymore. Would you have been happy if management binned them after last year. Look at Matty Donnelly. He came back before and put everything in he could... I'm still v glad he did and fair play to management for their loyalty. If the managements crime is believing that the group could rise again and they failed because of that, then I think they are in the best position to rebuild and they can be more objective going forward. to me it's about a fresh look at all the coaching again. From top to bottom of Tyrone inc academy. Gaelic football in 5 years time will be all about the exceptional forwards again. I firmly believe we need to ensure our youth teams have the skill developed to match the athleticism. Defenders will also be critical in the future. The likes of specialists like hampsey who can mark a man almost out of it, even one of the greatest ever...

[seafoid]

Since the end of the 6 in a row things have returned to normal. There won't be one team dominating indefinitely. Dublin might win one more. Kerry will be there or thereabouts.  It will come down to individual matches and clutch moments. Tyrone might need some time to get up to the right level but it will be worth it.

[rrhf]

A lot of good teams scratching their heads these days . Credit Dublin Derry Kerry Monaghan. They adapted better to the new conditions and Monaghan had a great focus from their early round robin games.
I think if all stays the same next year, there will be an even more competitive ouch for the outright winning of the group. For everyone except Armagh there were obvious advantages with the extra week that helped their cause.
I'm getting more convinced that the reasons that Dub and Kerry have more all irelands is that they can Adapt quicker than the others whatever the environment.