The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[Angelo]

Christie and Edouard turning it on.

Sadly too little too late.

Eduoard is a class act.  Has never really looked interested this year but has scored loads of goal.

Just imagine he was at a club where he enjoyed it.

And we'll be flogging him for less than £20m this summer because of our biscuit tin mentality. He should have been handed a bumper contract during last season that would allow us to demand his market rate this summer if he does want to leave.

Edouard is worth a minimum of 40m in today's market.

Villa paid £35m for Watkins this summer, a 25 year old English striker who doesn't even have an underage international cap, never played top flight football before, never won a trophy.

Edouard is contrast is a player who has a cabinet full of trophies, is two years Watkins junior, is a French u21 international who has scored double figures at that level - France being the current World Champions, has experience at European level. He's worth an absolute minimum of £40m but we'll cash in this summer for £20m or under.

[skeog]

Angelo DDs house in Shrewbury Road is being finished off to the highest standard.Need to sell ED for the final renovations.

[sid waddell]

Surprised there's been no mention of the report into paedophilia in Scottish football being released yesterday

You'd think the forum's self-appointed Celtic superfan would have been all over this, especially given that Celtic came out of it by far the worst of any Scottish club

But no

Really does smack of the sort of institutional cover up we saw from the Catholic Church in this country

It was a report into paedophillia in Scottish Football. It was not a report on Celtic football club. Have you made a similar post in the ra gets thread? If you really are that concerned open a thread about it.

Most people know about the horrible abuses that went on at Celtic. Nobody wants to sweep them under the rug. It was reprehensible what happened and should never have happened. A dark mark on Celtic and their history and one which they will never be able to erase no matter what they do going forward.  But don't come across like those on twitter who try to use it as a point scoring exercise because that's exactly what this post reads like.

It was a report on paedophilia on Scottish football - and Celtic came out by far the worst of any club from of it

Unless you think you know more than Alex Thomson of Channel 4 News, who has been covering this story for years, who specifcally made this point

Again, another Celtic supporter whose default reaction on hearing the story is to protect Celtic FC and their airbrush their disgraceful Catholic Church type closing of ranks behaviour

Did you actually read my post? I am guessing not because you can clearly see I did not at any stage protect Celtic.
Sid, I have genuine sympathy for what you have been through. I lost my father a few years ago to cancer and know what you're going through. I also know what it does to you. I'd recommend you take time and spend it with your family and not on an Internet forum. For your own good

Thanks for the concern trolling

Calling a reference to a report on paedophilia at your favourite football team (among others) "a point scoring exercise" is Catholic Church closing ranks behaviour

Your default reaction (and the reaction of the one caricatured idiot that plagues this forum) was to ascribe a bad faith motive to  the person who referenced it

That's not just trolling, it's an attempt at online crisis management

I'd thoroughly expect it from the other moron

But it's pretty disappointing to see that reaction from any other Celtic supporter

[tonto1888]

Surprised there's been no mention of the report into paedophilia in Scottish football being released yesterday

You'd think the forum's self-appointed Celtic superfan would have been all over this, especially given that Celtic came out of it by far the worst of any Scottish club

But no

Really does smack of the sort of institutional cover up we saw from the Catholic Church in this country

It was a report into paedophillia in Scottish Football. It was not a report on Celtic football club. Have you made a similar post in the ra gets thread? If you really are that concerned open a thread about it.

Most people know about the horrible abuses that went on at Celtic. Nobody wants to sweep them under the rug. It was reprehensible what happened and should never have happened. A dark mark on Celtic and their history and one which they will never be able to erase no matter what they do going forward.  But don't come across like those on twitter who try to use it as a point scoring exercise because that's exactly what this post reads like.

It was a report on paedophilia on Scottish football - and Celtic came out by far the worst of any club from of it

Unless you think you know more than Alex Thomson of Channel 4 News, who has been covering this story for years, who specifcally made this point

Again, another Celtic supporter whose default reaction on hearing the story is to protect Celtic FC and their airbrush their disgraceful Catholic Church type closing of ranks behaviour

Did you actually read my post? I am guessing not because you can clearly see I did not at any stage protect Celtic.
Sid, I have genuine sympathy for what you have been through. I lost my father a few years ago to cancer and know what you're going through. I also know what it does to you. I'd recommend you take time and spend it with your family and not on an Internet forum. For your own good

Thanks for the concern trolling

Calling a reference to a report on paedophilia at your favourite football team (among others) "a point scoring exercise" is Catholic Church closing ranks behaviour

Your default reaction (and the reaction of the one caricatured idiot that plagues this forum) was to ascribe a bad faith motive to  the person who referenced it

That's not just trolling, it's an attempt at online crisis management

I'd thoroughly expect it from the other moron

But it's pretty disappointing to see that reaction from any other Celtic supporter

Seriously. Take some time out. It will benefit you.

[sid waddell]

More concern trolling, thanks for that

[JimStynes]

Here lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4OI9H6Zrv0

[tonto1888]

More concern trolling, thanks for that

You're one to talk about trolling. A report comes out about child abuse at clubs in Scotland. Your first reaction is to run to a Celtic discussion and post about it. Despite being told what happened at Celtic was abhorrent your first instinct is to attack the poster. Even when concern is expressed about your recent loss your first reaction is to attack.
I asked this already tho you probably missed it as you clearly didn't read my post. Did you post on the rangers thread? This is not a Celtic issue alone. Did you start a thread about it if you really cared so much about the victims? Don't worry. I already know the answers.

[dublin7]

This is the Celtic thread and while  Celtic were not the focus of the report they do come out of it very badly. Not one person thought this was worth mentioning until Sid pointed out everyone was very quiet about it.

[tonto1888]

This is the Celtic thread and while  Celtic were not the focus of the report they do come out of it very badly. Not one person thought this was worth mentioning until Sid pointed out everyone was very quiet about it.

No club came out of it well. If he was that concerned, or if you are, start a thread on it.
I will be honest, I didn't know the report was due out but I don't need a report to know how badly Celtic handled everything about the abuse. And that's before you consider the fact that it happened in the first place. As I said a dark stain on Celtics history and one which will never fully be erased no matter what they do going forward.

[dublin7]

This is the Celtic thread and while  Celtic were not the focus of the report they do come out of it very badly. Not one person thought this was worth mentioning until Sid pointed out everyone was very quiet about it.

No club came out of it well. If he was that concerned, or if you are, start a thread on it.
I will be honest, I didn't know the report was due out but I don't need a report to know how badly Celtic handled everything about the abuse. And that's before you consider the fact that it happened in the first place. As I said a dark stain on Celtics history and one which will never fully be erased no matter what they do going forward.

Neil Lennon might not be a good manager but he gets serious abuse on here for doing his best. It probably won't be good enough to win the league but that's not a crime

Some shocking stuff has gone on in Scottish football and in particular at Celtic. When you see that former senior manager and board member suspected issues but said nothing, I would have thought that was worth mentioning by someone on here or is that less relevant to the 10 in a row hopes and what Niel Lennon did today?

[tonto1888]

Is that in the report? Well then it begs the question why have you or Sid not brought this up before because that's been known for a long time.
I will ask again have you posted about this in the rangers thread? Or are you being selective in which victims you care about?

[Angelo]

Is that in the report? Well then it begs the question why have you or Sid not brought this up before because that's been known for a long time.
I will ask again have you posted about this in the rangers thread? Or are you being selective in which victims you care about?

dublin7 is a noted troll.

[dublin7]

Is that in the report? Well then it begs the question why have you or Sid not brought this up before because that's been known for a long time.
I will ask again have you posted about this in the rangers thread? Or are you being selective in which victims you care about?

I didn't even know about the report until Sid mentioned it. Then I did do a google search and seen how bad it was. Celtic did try to deny responsibility but the report shatters that defence. Does no one think that's worth mentioning?

To be fair to Celtic they have made a statement on it since the report was released even if its f**k all use to the victims. I've no idea if Rangers have said anything on it, but I didn't see any statement in the reports online.

This isn't a specific attack on Celtic. Frankly Scottish football from the very top down comes out of it badly and from what I've now read from people who do know what they're talking about the report could have been alot harsher on the clubs/SFA.

I would have thought though someone would have said something about it on here.

[Angelo]

Looks like 4 Rangers players breached Covid rules by attending a house party on Saturday night.

Be interesting to see if they have their next few games called off like Celtic had to with Bolingoli.

[sid waddell]

Is that in the report? Well then it begs the question why have you or Sid not brought this up before because that's been known for a long time.
I will ask again have you posted about this in the rangers thread? Or are you being selective in which victims you care about?

I didn't even know about the report until Sid mentioned it. Then I did do a google search and seen how bad it was. Celtic did try to deny responsibility but the report shatters that defence. Does no one think that's worth mentioning?

To be fair to Celtic they have made a statement on it since the report was released even if its f**k all use to the victims. I've no idea if Rangers have said anything on it, but I didn't see any statement in the reports online.

This isn't a specific attack on Celtic. Frankly Scottish football from the very top down comes out of it badly and from what I've now read from people who do know what they're talking about the report could have been alot harsher on the clubs/SFA.

I would have thought though someone would have said something about it on here.

These lads have no moral compass

You know who is perfectly happy to brand the Catholic Church as evil yet when as regards paedophilia at the club he supports his default reaction is to fling stones at anybody bringing it up

Anybody like that is sick in the head and doesn't care one jot about victims of abuse

This is the full timeline from Alex Thomson who has followed this story in detail for years

And by jaysus Celtic's reaction has been a disgrace

Rangers too but we expect that

The Old Firm indeed

Absolutely f**king disgraceful and how this is not a bigger story UK-wide, well, the mind boggles

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Feb 11

The SFA report demolishes the excuse of Celtic that what went on in allied youth groups was "separate " from Celtic football club itself. Many clubs are involved but Celtic's is the most serious in terms of numbers and years it went on

Scottish football clubs, including Celtic, Rangers and Hibernian, should offer compensation and a "clear, unreserved and public" apology to victims of endemic abuse - damning SFA report...

SFA independent report demolishes Celtic's excuse that paedophiles were operating in separate groups not CFC itself: "The Review is of the view that, if the relationship and history between the youth football club and the senior club was so shared, so close, and so inextricable..

...then when sexual abuse of young players formed part of the history of one then it too formed part of the history of the other.
A shared heritage is not confined to trophies, victories and celebration;  it also extends to defeats, failures, and deficiencies."...

In other words the Report's accusing Celtic FC of wanting the Boys Club to be in its bosom when times were good - nothing to do with us when times were bad.

Report notes how one victim of a Rangers paedophile complained to the club and was told the club would not act because it had happened before the club was liquidated

Still no statement from Celtic FC which they told me this morning there would be. They referred the BBC - incredibly - to a statement last year....

Equally nothing  from Rangers about their historic sex abuse issues  and any response to being told to say sorry and pay compensation.

Silence from Celtic and Rangers today deafening and depressing . Yeah yeah court cases pending but Hibs did their duty...

And of course Thistle have also put out a statement today. So football clubs in Glasgow can actually speak.

Feb 12

Celtic finally responded to the SFA's independent report with a statement which differs hardly at all from its previous statements...

"The Club has publicly expressed its sincere sympathy, regret and sorrow to all those affected across Scottish football including at Celtic Football Club and Celtic Boys' Club, something which the Independent Review acknowledged and welcomed. Today we reiterate this apology. "..

1 as anybody can see this is not an apology. Celtic does not say "we are sorry" ie we bear some responsibility...

2 the club say it "has expressed" past perfect tense ie the club itself is merely pointing to its repeated past expressions of sympathy not direct apology ..

3 the club is trying to deflect from the available evidence that it has the worst record of Paedophilia of any Scottish club by talking about the wider issue across the game when it knows perfectly well it has the biggest issue on available evidence...


4 the club ignores the SFA independent report's demolition of its absurd excuse that Celtic Boys' Club was somehow an "entirely separate entity" from CFC

5 in sum what we have here is anything but the full apology demanded by the Report and instead a statement of legal defence against forthcoming actions. ..

6 and the obvious mystery - what on earth were Celtic doing all across yesterday when it mattered, only to put out their same old statement a day late? Curiouser and curiouser...Nitey nite.

No. Celtic have absolutely not apologised. Saying you feel sorry for someone is a zillion miles morally, legally and logically from saying you are sorry for what you did to them.

Feb 13

Following on from Celtic's complete non apology absolute silence from Rangers. Is this how Scots get treated in the 21st century? Where are the people one side of Glasgow and fail fail on the other.

For those asking Hibs look like they just cut and pasted Celtic's regurgitated non apology. RFC are just running away altogether. For anyone out there who still doesn't get it, being sad about something is not the same in law and reality as "we are sorry for what we did to you."