6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022

Started by Snapchap, February 23, 2022, 10:18:43 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

pbat

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 07, 2022, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2022, 09:42:40 AM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 07, 2022, 08:12:09 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 06, 2022, 11:20:59 PM
Pretty much all of this is bollix.
"Straight back to the troubles". Wise yourself up.

When buses are burned and there is violence on the streets over an EU protocol that most of those on the streets couldn't tell you two accurate sentences about - you actually expect a marginal border to pass off without incident?

Have you took leave of your senses?!?
Realistically the loyalists did f**k all during the troubles without British weapons, intelligence and a police force that either openly helped or turned a blind eye. Would they get that again?

That is a fair point - could they operate without that?

But if they have a sizeable support base (5-10% NoI population would be enough) then after the initial riots settle, they'd likely be able to cause ongoing sporadic trouble (which would still be fatal for those on the end of it obviously).

They already have the weapons. They're now well set up as drug dealing thugs so would know were to procure more ammo.


*how much money toward "community groups" ends up in the hands of paramilitaries? I'd be confident its a pretty significant amount.

They will be in the same position as dissent republicans are now, small hardcore support in some areas but will be infiltrated by the spooks and not fit to raise much of a stir. Unfortunately like Lyra Mc Kee there may be one or two  people killed but nothing sustained.

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: The Subbie on May 07, 2022, 10:38:21 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 10:04:45 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 07, 2022, 09:39:29 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 12:09:34 AM
It will be a sad inditement of this place if Nichola Mallon loses her seat

Why?

You blaming the voters?

What's her top 5 achievements during her tenure?

I think she was a good worker , yes I suppose I would find it odd to see why she would be voted out in the same way Id argue in favour of robin swann
https://www.infrastructure-ni.gov.uk/news/mallon-looks-back-two-years-infrastructure-minister

Kidder81

Interesting that Paul Givan clearly said DUP need to get back into Stormont as soon as to get back to work, slightly at odds with Jeffrey etc

JPGJOHNNYG

I see Houston is eliminated from strangford by about 40 votes ffs. I don't get why nationalists leaning voters would give alliance a preference over SF or SDLP here, same in LV. The same reason why nationalists will never get anywhere in EB or ND there seems to be a well we can't win anyway attitude. That's fine for FPTP election but not STV. This despite all the hype is the usual disappointing election for nationalism. We are stuck at 42% despite 20 years of huge demographic shift!!!

Itchy

Here's a question one for ye, Alliance now more a nationalist based party than unionist?

The Subbie

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 10:41:49 AM
Quote from: The Subbie on May 07, 2022, 10:38:21 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 10:04:45 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 07, 2022, 09:39:29 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 12:09:34 AM
It will be a sad inditement of this place if Nichola Mallon loses her seat

Why?

You blaming the voters?

What's her top 5 achievements during her tenure?

I think she was a good worker , yes I suppose I would find it odd to see why she would be voted out in the same way Id argue in favour of robin swann
https://www.infrastructure-ni.gov.uk/news/mallon-looks-back-two-years-infrastructure-minister

So she picked up and rubber stamped an already developed list of priority infrastructure projects
If that's it that's a wee bit underwhelming to be honest

Did she initiate any new procurement processes in tendering ?
Did she parcel up delivery of multiple projects into delivery programmes to provide longevity of work & value to the taxpayer
The list of "achievements " you attribute to her were defined as projects , scoped up as projects & developed as projects by others
She's come in at the final 1/2 lap & press releases them for the kudos - which isn't what I originally asked
What can you legitimately point at as a "pure bred" achievement of her time in that portfolio or what has she , solely , delivered for her constituents ? Stand alone , tangible , real & positive examples , I'm curious

Wildweasel74

What you say above about Mallon, I think you could say about 80% of MLA, There's many a independent better qualified than big party reps, who don't get near it as they no affiliation.

Wildweasel74

See someone mentioned Hargey previously. She hardly been standing out with the Benefit assessments mess.

johnnycool

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on May 07, 2022, 10:58:22 AM
I see Houston is eliminated from strangford by about 40 votes ffs. I don't get why nationalists leaning voters would give alliance a preference over SF or SDLP here, same in LV. The same reason why nationalists will never get anywhere in EB or ND there seems to be a well we can't win anyway attitude. That's fine for FPTP election but not STV. This despite all the hype is the usual disappointing election for nationalism. We are stuck at 42% despite 20 years of huge demographic shift!!!

I think I questioned the decision of the SDLP of selecting Houston over the local Joe Boyle who was pipped at the post last time.
All politics is local, Armstrong is local with a social media presence which seems to cut through in the female nationalist vote evidently.

imtommygunn

Was there not something untoward went on round portaferry that led to a change in sdlp or was that council level?

The Subbie

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 07, 2022, 11:18:55 AM
What you say above about Mallon, I think you could say about 80% of MLA, There's many a independent better qualified than big party reps, who don't get near it as they no affiliation.

  Very likely true
The point was made earlier by fear bun that the idea off Nicola Mallon loosing her seat was a sad inditement of the place
I'm just curious what makes her so different from anyone else loosing a seat ?
Has she done something good that the voters just didn't get or wasn't promoted enough?

What is it exactly that her constituents are going to miss out on or what is it exactly that the broader body politic will miss out on by her absence?
Genuine curiosity like I said

Sportacus

Hopefully Boris will make Jeffrey a promise on the Protocol and we can get Stormont up and running.  Sure he can break it later.

marty34

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 10:04:45 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 07, 2022, 09:39:29 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 12:09:34 AM
It will be a sad inditement of this place if Nichola Mallon loses her seat

Why?

You blaming the voters?

I think she was a good worker , yes I suppose I would find it odd to see why she would be voted out in the same way Id argue in favour of robin swann

Are you sure?

Check out her work on the MOT issues and taxi issues under her watch.

Don't conflate that she's a decent person and comes across well with the work that she's done.

Milltown Row2

The media pressing SF hard on the border poll...

Just say we are dealing with the here and now, down the road once there is dialogue (hate that word) on how it would look like and what plans would need to be put in place before it is even thought of..

You're woman on bbc ex DUP had a friendship with Ian Og is a c**k
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: Itchy on May 07, 2022, 11:06:06 AM
Here's a question one for ye, Alliance now more a nationalist based party than unionist?

Their voters are considerably more green than orange looking at transfer patterns. Unfortunately the party itself is status quo ie Unionist. They can spoof all they want but they are and they have no interest in a UI or unity poll unless it's forced on them. Even if some or many of the representatives actually want a UI they don't say shit. Look how quickly Anna Lo was shut down for going solo. Same goes for the bizarre 32 County socialist PBP who don't want to designate lol