2016 All Stars

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seafoid

Quote from: muppet on October 03, 2016, 07:03:44 PM
The All-Stars always give greater value to performances later in the year, in the big games. And rightly so.

What is the point in shooting 25 points in the first round against a division 4 team, if you go scoreless in the All-Ireland semi-final and final? The reverse also has to apply.
Beating Meath deserves more respect than that, Muppet

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: muppet on October 03, 2016, 07:03:44 PM
The All-Stars always give greater value to performances later in the year, in the big games. And rightly so.

What is the point in shooting 25 points in the first round against a division 4 team, if you go scoreless in the All-Ireland semi-final and final? The reverse also has to apply.

The All Stars are meant to be for the best players in the Championship, not the players who play for the best teams in the Championship.

I think someone like Gary Brennan should be a certainty for an All Star, his performance were as any influential as any one player has been for any side this summer and he dragged a rather average Clare side to an All Ireland quarter final - granted their draw was pretty handy but it was still an achievement.

Other notable players who should come in for strong consideration this year would be Danny Heavron and Peter Atcheson. If Aidan O'Shea hadn't cheated Fermanagh out of the All Ireland then perhaps Eoin Donnelly and Tomas Corrigan would be there also.

There has been a real lack of top quality forwards this summer. Geaney is the only real out and out forward who has peformed to a real top standard.

Cunny Funt

Quote from: screenexile on October 03, 2016, 05:22:53 PM
Player of the year lads??

Big debate in work about it a lot of lads saying Connolly but he wasn't overly impressive in over the 2 finals. On the flip side who else could you give it to? None of the Dubs have been truly outstanding maybe Fenton had 2 decent games there. Colm Boyle?

It tells you how average to poor the football year was again that it's a struggle to pick a footballer of the year..

mrdeeds

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on October 03, 2016, 07:18:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 03, 2016, 07:03:44 PM
The All-Stars always give greater value to performances later in the year, in the big games. And rightly so.

What is the point in shooting 25 points in the first round against a division 4 team, if you go scoreless in the All-Ireland semi-final and final? The reverse also has to apply.

The All Stars are meant to be for the best players in the Championship, not the players who play for the best teams in the Championship.

I think someone like Gary Brennan should be a certainty for an All Star, his performance were as any influential as any one player has been for any side this summer and he dragged a rather average Clare side to an All Ireland quarter final - granted their draw was pretty handy but it was still an achievement.

Other notable players who should come in for strong consideration this year would be Danny Heavron and Peter Atcheson. If Aidan O'Shea hadn't cheated Fermanagh out of the All Ireland then perhaps Eoin Donnelly and Tomas Corrigan would be there also.

There has been a real lack of top quality forwards this summer. Geaney is the only real out and out forward who has peformed to a real top standard.

Here here. There is a prize for good performances in semi and final. It's called the Man of the Match Award. Players are already playing for the strongest teams who reach latter stages so huge advantage over playeras from weaker counties. Fair enough having a great final should help only if you've played well in previous games.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 29, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
Current all-star favorites with Paddy power

David Clarke (Mayo)
Johnny Cooper (Dublin)
Philly McMahon (Dublin)
Keith Higgins (Mayo)
Paul Murphy (Kerry)
Cian O Sullivan (Dublin)
Lee Keegan (Mayo)
Gary Brennan (Clare)
Brian Fenton (Dublin)
Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin)
Aidan O Shea (Mayo)
Diarmuid Connolly (Dublin)
Michael Quinlivan (Tipperary)
Paul Geaney (Kerry)
Kevin McManaman (Dublin)

That's seven for Dublin,four for Mayo,two for Kerry,one each for Tipperary Clare and none for Tyrone.

The favourties for the All-stars now.


David Clarke (Mayo)
Brendan Harrison (Mayo)
Johnny Cooper (Dublin)
Keith Higgins (Mayo)
Lee Keegan (Mayo)
Cian O Sullivan (Dublin)
Colm Boyle (Mayo)
Brian Fenton (Dublin)
Gary Brennan (Clare)
Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin)
Diarmuid Connolly (Dublin)
Ryan McHugh (Donegal)
Michael Quinlivan (Tippearay)
Paul Geaney (Kerry)
Kevin McManaman (Dublin)


Out goes Philly McMahon,Paul Murphy,Aidan O Shea and in comes Brendan Harrison,Colm Boyle,Ryan McHugh

Footballer of the year will be Brian Fenton going by the odds.

saffronandblue

Very hard to believe or stomach that Kevin McLoughlin will once again be overlooked for an All-star.....a real reliable class performer in every game.......

moysider

Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 03, 2016, 09:43:23 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 29, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
Current all-star favorites with Paddy power

David Clarke (Mayo)
Johnny Cooper (Dublin)
Philly McMahon (Dublin)
Keith Higgins (Mayo)
Paul Murphy (Kerry)
Cian O Sullivan (Dublin)
Lee Keegan (Mayo)
Gary Brennan (Clare)
Brian Fenton (Dublin)
Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin)
Aidan O Shea (Mayo)
Diarmuid Connolly (Dublin)
Michael Quinlivan (Tipperary)
Paul Geaney (Kerry)
Kevin McManaman (Dublin)

That's seven for Dublin,four for Mayo,two for Kerry,one each for Tipperary Clare and none for Tyrone.

The favourties for the All-stars now.


David Clarke (Mayo)
Brendan Harrison (Mayo)
Johnny Cooper (Dublin)
Keith Higgins (Mayo)
Lee Keegan (Mayo)
Cian O Sullivan (Dublin)
Colm Boyle (Mayo)
Brian Fenton (Dublin)
Gary Brennan (Clare)
Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin)
Diarmuid Connolly (Dublin)
Ryan McHugh (Donegal)
Michael Quinlivan (Tippearay)
Paul Geaney (Kerry)
Kevin McManaman (Dublin)


Out goes Philly McMahon,Paul Murphy,Aidan O Shea and in comes Brendan Harrison,Colm Boyle,Ryan McHugh

Footballer of the year will be Brian Fenton going by the odds.

How in hell can Clarkie get an All Star now after his manager basically gave him a vote of no confidence.

Mind you he was solid when he came in which says a lot about what he is made of after being dropped for an AI final replay.

yellowcard

Some bizarre favourites in paddy powers list there, can see at least 4/5 changes from that side.

muppet

Connolly scored a really terrific point, especially since I thought Keegan got a hand on it, but it was so well hit it still made it over the bar from distance. However his man, a defender, who played less than a half, outscored him from play again.

How is it that he is being considered for POTY ahead of him?
MWWSI 2017

yellowcard

Quote from: muppet on October 03, 2016, 11:53:15 PM
Connolly scored a really terrific point, especially since I thought Keegan got a hand on it, but it was so well hit it still made it over the bar from distance. However his man, a defender, who played less than a half, outscored him from play again.

How is it that he is being considered for POTY ahead of him?

For me Keegan should be player of the year. Although Fenton has been good and is a strong candidate he appears to be the latest golden boy in the media and has been handed the award already it seems.

Jinxy

If you were any use you'd be playing.

muppet

TBH Fenton would be a decent POTY.

And if our halfbacks got two All-Stars, I think I would pick Keegan and Durcan.
MWWSI 2017

ZeitChrist

Keegan is the player of the year but he's too controversial. They bottled it with McMahon last year too because of the controversy around him. They won't give it to a non Dub anyway. Fenton will get it.

ashman

Quote from: muppet on October 04, 2016, 12:13:14 AM
TBH Fenton would be a decent POTY.

And if our halfbacks got two All-Stars, I think I would pick Keegan and Durcan.

Fenton was poor last Saturday .  He is a fabulous player to be fair .

moysider

Quote from: ZeitChrist on October 04, 2016, 12:16:38 AM
Keegan is the player of the year but he's too controversial. They bottled it with McMahon last year too because of the controversy around him. They won't give it to a non Dub anyway. Fenton will get it.

Keegan isn't a bit controversial. Takes on the tough assignments and takes it and leaves it behind after. Just shrugged his shoulders the last day after being wrongly carded. Got some of the best scores of the year while mostly playing in a deep defensive role. Not his problem if his excellence was singled out by a craven biased media as something to target. I'm sure though he doesn't give a f**k about these awards either.