Man Utd Thread:

[J70]

I like utds re found principles based on youth academy, honest and sustainability. Sadly other clubs like city and pool are prepared to buy their way to the top. Ruins the game.

"Refound"?

United struck gold with a single group of youth players in the early 90s. Fair f**ks to them for it, but it's  hardly been a major foundation of the club outside of that outlying group anymore than any other club. Post class of 92, almost all of their superstars until Rashford have been bought for big money. Same as in the 80s (Whiteside excepted).  Time will tell whether the current players coming through make the grade.

How much are they still paying Alexis Sanchez each week?

To be fair Utd have a smattering of home grown talents all the time. Yesterday's squad for example would have included off the top of my head, Rashford, Lingard, Perreria, McTominay, Tunazebe, Williams, Greenwood. In the squad as a whole I'm sure there's more you could add including arguably Pogba.

Isn't there some kind of remarkable stat about Utd haven't included at least one former academy player in every squad for over 40 years. Throughout that time homegrown talents have been a major foundation. They certainly haven't always been the main superstars but they have more than simply made up the numbers.

Is that not the case with most clubs though? Problem at the bigger clubs is that with the higher standard most of them end up as part of the rotation rather than first choice or leave for lower clubs.

[David McKeown]

I like utds re found principles based on youth academy, honest and sustainability. Sadly other clubs like city and pool are prepared to buy their way to the top. Ruins the game.

"Refound"?

United struck gold with a single group of youth players in the early 90s. Fair f**ks to them for it, but it's  hardly been a major foundation of the club outside of that outlying group anymore than any other club. Post class of 92, almost all of their superstars until Rashford have been bought for big money. Same as in the 80s (Whiteside excepted).  Time will tell whether the current players coming through make the grade.

How much are they still paying Alexis Sanchez each week?

To be fair Utd have a smattering of home grown talents all the time. Yesterday's squad for example would have included off the top of my head, Rashford, Lingard, Perreria, McTominay, Tunazebe, Williams, Greenwood. In the squad as a whole I'm sure there's more you could add including arguably Pogba.

Isn't there some kind of remarkable stat about Utd haven't included at least one former academy player in every squad for over 40 years. Throughout that time homegrown talents have been a major foundation. They certainly haven't always been the main superstars but they have more than simply made up the numbers.

Is that not the case with most clubs though? Problem at the bigger clubs is that with the higher standard most of them end up as part of the rotation rather than first choice or leave for lower clubs.

I don't think so certainly not to the same degree or as consistently. Certainly looking at the City squad it's not. Liverpool maybe had it to a level but not that same level. Also my earlier post should have said having not haven't.

[J70]

I like utds re found principles based on youth academy, honest and sustainability. Sadly other clubs like city and pool are prepared to buy their way to the top. Ruins the game.

"Refound"?

United struck gold with a single group of youth players in the early 90s. Fair f**ks to them for it, but it's  hardly been a major foundation of the club outside of that outlying group anymore than any other club. Post class of 92, almost all of their superstars until Rashford have been bought for big money. Same as in the 80s (Whiteside excepted).  Time will tell whether the current players coming through make the grade.

How much are they still paying Alexis Sanchez each week?

To be fair Utd have a smattering of home grown talents all the time. Yesterday's squad for example would have included off the top of my head, Rashford, Lingard, Perreria, McTominay, Tunazebe, Williams, Greenwood. In the squad as a whole I'm sure there's more you could add including arguably Pogba.

Isn't there some kind of remarkable stat about Utd haven't included at least one former academy player in every squad for over 40 years. Throughout that time homegrown talents have been a major foundation. They certainly haven't always been the main superstars but they have more than simply made up the numbers.

Is that not the case with most clubs though? Problem at the bigger clubs is that with the higher standard most of them end up as part of the rotation rather than first choice or leave for lower clubs.

I don't think so certainly not to the same degree or as consistently. Certainly looking at the City squad it's not. Liverpool maybe had it to a level but not that same level. Also my earlier post should have said having not haven't.

Well, we'll see how it goes as United look to develop back into an elite team.

I predict a lot of money will be spent. Maguire and Wan Bissaka are just the beginning.

[Boycey]

They'll spend money, like the rest of the big clubs, but 82 years and 4000 odd games with someone from the youth academy on the matchday squad is a pretty neat record. There were 7 in yesterday's 18 man squad....

[seafoid]

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[magpie seanie]

United have 13 points from 5 games against Liverpool, Leicester, City, Chelsea and Spurs. Only 11 from 11 against the rest. Clear to see where the problem lies - breaking down sides who sit in and defend deep. Ole and the lads know what they're doing but it will take time.

[Maroon Manc]

United have 13 points from 5 games against Liverpool, Leicester, City, Chelsea and Spurs. Only 11 from 11 against the rest. Clear to see where the problem lies - breaking down sides who sit in and defend deep. Ole and the lads know what they're doing but it will take time.

We've clearly missed a player in the so called no 10 position as we've had to do with Pereira who's not good enough. Its not just that though, in 5 of those games where we dropped points we took the lead; There's a lack of experience and game management about the team, I'd like to think as the season continues United will take more points from these sort of games.

They were 2 performances and results I wasn't expecting, its given the board and fans something to cling on too; I just hope Ole is backed in January as that squad isn't fit for purpose as a couple of more injuries will leave United in trouble again.

[OgraAnDun]

United have 13 points from 5 games against Liverpool, Leicester, City, Chelsea and Spurs. Only 11 from 11 against the rest. Clear to see where the problem lies - breaking down sides who sit in and defend deep. Ole and the lads know what they're doing but it will take time.

We've clearly missed a player in the so called no 10 position as we've had to do with Pereira who's not good enough. Its not just that though, in 5 of those games where we dropped points we took the lead; There's a lack of experience and game management about the team, I'd like to think as the season continues United will take more points from these sort of games.

They were 2 performances and results I wasn't expecting, its given the board and fans something to cling on too; I just hope Ole is backed in January as that squad isn't fit for purpose as a couple of more injuries will leave United in trouble again.

Now that Fred and McTominay are working well in the midfield 2, could Pogba be used in a 10 when he's back allowing him to focus purely on playmaking and potentially unlocking his best position for Utd?

[Maroon Manc]

United have 13 points from 5 games against Liverpool, Leicester, City, Chelsea and Spurs. Only 11 from 11 against the rest. Clear to see where the problem lies - breaking down sides who sit in and defend deep. Ole and the lads know what they're doing but it will take time.

We've clearly missed a player in the so called no 10 position as we've had to do with Pereira who's not good enough. Its not just that though, in 5 of those games where we dropped points we took the lead; There's a lack of experience and game management about the team, I'd like to think as the season continues United will take more points from these sort of games.

They were 2 performances and results I wasn't expecting, its given the board and fans something to cling on too; I just hope Ole is backed in January as that squad isn't fit for purpose as a couple of more injuries will leave United in trouble again.

Now that Fred and McTominay are working well in the midfield 2, could Pogba be used in a 10 when he's back allowing him to focus purely on playmaking and potentially unlocking his best position for Utd?

The role should be perfect for him although a few of us were wondering whether Pogba would have worked as hard as Lingard did against City, he never looks too enthusiastic when closing down an opponent. I don't think there's too many reds who'll think he'll be at OT next season anyway.

[Keyser soze]

United have 13 points from 5 games against Liverpool, Leicester, City, Chelsea and Spurs. Only 11 from 11 against the rest. Clear to see where the problem lies - breaking down sides who sit in and defend deep. Ole and the lads know what they're doing but it will take time.

Both these cant be right!

[TabClear]

United have 13 points from 5 games against Liverpool, Leicester, City, Chelsea and Spurs. Only 11 from 11 against the rest. Clear to see where the problem lies - breaking down sides who sit in and defend deep. Ole and the lads know what they're doing but it will take time.

We've clearly missed a player in the so called no 10 position as we've had to do with Pereira who's not good enough. Its not just that though, in 5 of those games where we dropped points we took the lead; There's a lack of experience and game management about the team, I'd like to think as the season continues United will take more points from these sort of games.

They were 2 performances and results I wasn't expecting, its given the board and fans something to cling on too; I just hope Ole is backed in January as that squad isn't fit for purpose as a couple of more injuries will leave United in trouble again.

Now that Fred and McTominay are working well in the midfield 2, could Pogba be used in a 10 when he's back allowing him to focus purely on playmaking and potentially unlocking his best position for Utd?

The role should be perfect for him although a few of us were wondering whether Pogba would have worked as hard as Lingard did against City, he never looks too enthusiastic when closing down an opponent. I don't think there's too many reds who'll think he'll be at OT next season anyway.

I thought Utd should have pursued Couthinho a bit more aggressively in the Summer. Yes there might have been legacy issues with the Liverpool connection but I think he is exactly what United need in that position.

[magpie seanie]

United have 13 points from 5 games against Liverpool, Leicester, City, Chelsea and Spurs. Only 11 from 11 against the rest. Clear to see where the problem lies - breaking down sides who sit in and defend deep. Ole and the lads know what they're doing but it will take time.

We've clearly missed a player in the so called no 10 position as we've had to do with Pereira who's not good enough. Its not just that though, in 5 of those games where we dropped points we took the lead; There's a lack of experience and game management about the team, I'd like to think as the season continues United will take more points from these sort of games.

They were 2 performances and results I wasn't expecting, its given the board and fans something to cling on too; I just hope Ole is backed in January as that squad isn't fit for purpose as a couple of more injuries will leave United in trouble again.

Now that Fred and McTominay are working well in the midfield 2, could Pogba be used in a 10 when he's back allowing him to focus purely on playmaking and potentially unlocking his best position for Utd?

The role should be perfect for him although a few of us were wondering whether Pogba would have worked as hard as Lingard did against City, he never looks too enthusiastic when closing down an opponent. I don't think there's too many reds who'll think he'll be at OT next season anyway.

Agree. Lingard has earned his share of criticism over the last couple of seasons but has shown signs of getting back to what he was good at recently. Whatever team Pogba is in, high intensity defensive workrate will be left to others. I don't think he has the mental discipline or desire to do it. He's very good in an attacking sense. I'd hope he could make an impact against the mid to lower range teams over the rest of the season and United get decent money for him when he moves on.

[Cunny Funt]

Job done by topping the group. After a poor 1st half United won at their ease. 4-0 win all the more impressive with 9 changes made to the starting team from last weekend and could afford to sub Martial, Maguire off early.

Greenwood grabbed the headlines with two well taken goals and won the penalty for the 3rd goal. Could draw Rangers next that would be interesting.

[GJL]

Job done by topping the group. After a poor 1st half United won at their ease. 4-0 win all the more impressive with 9 changes made to the starting team from last weekend and could afford to sub Martial, Maguire off early.

Greenwood grabbed the headlines with two well taken goals and won the penalty for the 3rd goal. Could draw Rangers next that would be interesting.

Utd academy takes the headlines from tonight's game. Serious turnout from them.

[Geoff Tipps]

Job done by topping the group. After a poor 1st half United won at their ease. 4-0 win all the more impressive with 9 changes made to the starting team from last weekend and could afford to sub Martial, Maguire off early.

Greenwood grabbed the headlines with two well taken goals and won the penalty for the 3rd goal. Could draw Rangers next that would be interesting.

Utd academy takes the headlines from tonight's game. Serious turnout from them.

Well done lads. Is that the new net spend cup!?