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Title: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: twohands!!! on June 11, 2015, 09:02:16 PM
The Kerry Senior Football Team to play Tipperary in the Munster Football Championship semi final in Thurles on Sunday contains just 7 of the team that started the All Ireland Final against Donegal last year.

All Stars, Paul Murphy and David Moran, miss the game due to injury while Brian Kelly, Aidan O'Mahony, Fionn Fitzgerald, Stephen O'Brien, James O'Donoghue and Donnchadh Walsh are all named in the substitutes list for Sunday's game.

Of the six subs that saw action against Donegal last September, Shane Enright, Michael Geaney, Bryan Sheehan and Barry John Keane are all included in the starting fifteen this time round while Kieran O'Leary is injured and Declan O'Sullivan has since retired. 

Jonathan Lyne of Killarney Legion makes his full Championship debut while Colm Cooper is named at centre forward for his 77th championship game and returns to championship action for the first time since the 2013 All Ireland semi final against Dublin.

The team, captained by Kieran Donaghy is as follows:

1. Brendan Kealy  Kilcummin

2. Marc Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht

3. Mark Griffin   St Michaels/Foilmore

4. Shane Enright   Tarbert

5. Jonathan Lyne  Killarney Legion

6. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers

7. Killian Young   Renard

8. Anthony Maher  Duagh

9. Bryan Sheehan St Marys

10. Michael Geaney Dingle

11. Colm Cooper Dr Crokes

12. Johnny Buckley  Dr Crokes

13. Paul Geaney Dingle

14. Kieran Donaghy (C) Austin Stacks

15. Barry John Keane  Kerins O'Rahillys

Fir Ionaid:

16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion

17. James O'Donoghue Killarney Legion

18. Stephen O'Brien  Kenmare

19. Aidan O'Mahony Rathmore

20. Darran O'Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar

21. Fionn Fitzgerald   Dr Crokes 

22. Tommy Walsh  Kerins O'Rahillys

23. Alan Fitzgerald  Castlegregory

24. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane

25. Jack Sherwood Firies

26. Pa Kilkenny   Glenbeigh/Glencar 

Bainisteóir: Eamonn Fitzmaurice (Finuge) 

Róghnóirí: Diarmuid Murphy (Dingle), Mikey Sheehy (Austin Stacks), Cian O'Neill (Moorefield, Kildare) 

Additional Information:

Injuries Update

The following players are not available for selection due to injury:

David Moran (Shoulder Injury)

Paul Murphy (Shoulder Injury)

Paul Galvin (Quad Injury)

Kieran O'Leary (Recovering from surgery on Achilles Tendon Injury)

http://www.kerrygaa.ie/news/360920/Kerry_Senior_Football_Team_v_Tipperary_Munster_Semi_Final

Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: Syferus on June 11, 2015, 09:08:16 PM
This one could be the sleeper game of the weekend if Tipperary can get a good start.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: theticklemister on June 11, 2015, 11:23:00 PM
Come on Tip and Colm Cooper; I don't know how that works together but t mon the both of them.

Has there ever been a better sub bench assembled?
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: Canalman on June 12, 2015, 09:54:16 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on June 11, 2015, 11:23:00 PM
Come on Tip and Colm Cooper; I don't know how that works together but t mon the both of them.

Has there ever been a better sub bench assembled?

Agreed about that subs bench not to mention the injured players. More Allstars amongst them than some counties have ever got  combined .

Even Kerry will find it hard  to "doom and gloom / "woe is us" " their way out of  this given the panel they have.

Tbh, can see them winning the AI in a stroll. However, I get the impression they want another crack at Dublin big time.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: rosnarun on June 12, 2015, 10:44:06 AM
Thats some panel of players
tough on Tipp to have to play them 1st day out . it must definetly hold back their development , they could be the second best team in the country and still get a stuffing sunday
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: AZOffaly on June 12, 2015, 10:48:39 AM
This is Tipps second day out. You have to play them eventually, and sometimes it's better to get teams like this good and early. If Tipp are to get to where they want to be, they need to start beating teams like Kerry. You have to start someday, so why not now? And if it doesn't work out, at least if you've had a right cut at them, you can face the qualifiers with confidence.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: Jinxy on June 12, 2015, 12:14:46 PM
Lads, Kerry aren't that good.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 12, 2015, 12:15:30 PM
Tipperary will beat a higher ranked team this summer.  Maybe not Kerry, or maybe Kerry. But be very aware that these boys are moving upward and quickly.  Similar to Limerick a decade ago, they will be very close to a Munster title in the near future.

Be sure that Kerry and Cork are well aware of the rising challenge. Kerry might be too much this weekend, but Tipp are going in one direction...up.  Quarter final appearance might happen this year.

Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: macdanger2 on June 12, 2015, 01:10:34 PM
Are Tipp being a little over hyped on the back of their underage success?? Remember that they failed to get out of D3 this year with Fermanagh ahead of them. They're probably a team for the future but they've shown nothing really to say it'll be this year.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: AZOffaly on June 12, 2015, 02:02:29 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 12, 2015, 01:10:34 PM
Are Tipp being a little over hyped on the back of their underage success?? Remember that they failed to get out of D3 this year with Fermanagh ahead of them. They're probably a team for the future but they've shown nothing really to say it'll be this year.

Yes, I think so. I think they are a team for the future, but they have to start closing the gap, starting Sunday. They should have beaten Cork last year, and got good scalps against the likes if Laois up in Portlaoise. But it's still a work in progress. What you don't want to see on Sunday is a regression.

That means they have to go out with the intention and belief they can win this game. If they go out to just keep it close, it will be too easy for Kerry and they'll be no closer to actually beating them, and I am convinced that day is coming.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
QuoteRóghnóirí: Diarmuid Murphy (Dingle), Mikey Sheehy (Austin Stacks), Cian O'Neill (Moorefield, Kildare) 

What's the feeling in Kerry towards O'Neill? Has some record in fairness.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: giveballaghback on June 12, 2015, 09:41:40 PM
Its great to see the gooch back in harness, greatest footballer of the modern era.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: twohands!!! on June 12, 2015, 10:40:25 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 12, 2015, 01:10:34 PM
Are Tipp being a little over hyped on the back of their underage success?? Remember that they failed to get out of D3 this year with Fermanagh ahead of them. They're probably a team for the future but they've shown nothing really to say it'll be this year.

In last year's championship Cork only beat them in injury time in a game which everyone said Cork were very fortunate to win.
Then in the qualifiers they beat Longford by 19 points (not quiet Dublin '15 level but still a fair hammering)
They beat Laois scoring 3-17 despite conceding 4 goals.
Eventually went out of the championship to Galway - who then conceded 4 goals to again.

Oh yeah already in the championship they beat Waterford 1-24 to 0-5 so they are clearly in decent form - 1-21 of that total came from play and they had 10 different scorers.

A key aspect of their league campaign was they lost to Fermanagh and Armagh, who got promoted, as a result of conceding goals to them. There was also the fact that the Tipp U21s got to the U21 final which I'm sure didn't help their league campaign.

If they end up in the qualifiers I could easily see them taking a couple of scalps. A huge advantage is that they have a team that is composed of a serious number of players who have the ability to take scores at intercounty level - they're not relying on just one star player. If they could tighten up at the back (especially as regards conceding goals) a bit they could make serious progress.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: ardtole on June 14, 2015, 04:01:56 PM
tipp 1-2 kerry 0-1 after ten mins
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: twohands!!! on June 14, 2015, 04:04:49 PM
tipp 1-2 kerry 1-3 after 17 mins
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: tippabu on June 14, 2015, 04:28:47 PM
Getting absolutely rode first half by ref. A bit more composure and we'd be well ahead, too many wides
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: Darby on June 14, 2015, 04:43:51 PM
Quote from: tippabu on June 14, 2015, 04:28:47 PM
Getting absolutely rode first half by ref. A bit more composure and we'd be well ahead, too many wides
Only thing keeping Kerry in the game. Tipp far superior.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: tippabu on June 14, 2015, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: Darby on June 14, 2015, 04:43:51 PM
Quote from: tippabu on June 14, 2015, 04:28:47 PM
Getting absolutely rode first half by ref. A bit more composure and we'd be well ahead, too many wides
Only thing keeping Kerry in the game. Tipp far superior.

nnot any more, all kerry
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: Fuzzman on June 14, 2015, 04:55:09 PM
Score?
Has Kerry got Gooch, Star and JoD on?
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: Teo Lurley on June 14, 2015, 04:59:41 PM
2-11 to 2-4. O' Donoghue just on.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: Darby on June 14, 2015, 05:02:31 PM
Kerry haven't a hope against Cork!
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: Teo Lurley on June 14, 2015, 05:22:08 PM
Ft: Kerry 2-14 Tipp 2-7
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: AZOffaly on June 14, 2015, 08:56:19 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on June 14, 2015, 05:22:08 PM
Ft: Kerry 2-14 Tipp 2-7

2-14 to 2-8
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: Teo Lurley on June 14, 2015, 09:15:19 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 14, 2015, 08:56:19 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on June 14, 2015, 05:22:08 PM
Ft: Kerry 2-14 Tipp 2-7

2-14 to 2-8

0-29 to 0-21
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: An Watcher on June 14, 2015, 10:30:17 PM
As Kerry and cork are seeded in munster could the other teams not have home advantage against the big two to make things competitive
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: tippabu on June 15, 2015, 12:44:02 AM
I see Sunday game didn't see the "cavanagh" tackle Gooch pulled without even a free that happened today. Got absolutely rode by the ref but kerry never got out of 3rd gear and would have won anyway. We were awful 2nd half
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: BennyHarp on June 15, 2015, 12:47:51 AM
Quote from: tippabu on June 15, 2015, 12:44:02 AM
I see Sunday game didn't see the "cavanagh" tackle Gooch pulled without even a free that happened today. Got absolutely rode by the ref but kerry never got out of 3rd gear and would have won anyway. We were awful 2nd half

Ffs, are you still whinging? Well, at least you're consistent with it, after every defeat. If your team learned to tackle with an ounce of intensity, maybe you wouldn't have let Kerry players kick points with barely a man near them.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: tippabu on June 15, 2015, 01:40:06 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 15, 2015, 12:47:51 AM
Quote from: tippabu on June 15, 2015, 12:44:02 AM
I see Sunday game didn't see the "cavanagh" tackle Gooch pulled without even a free that happened today. Got absolutely rode by the ref but kerry never got out of 3rd gear and would have won anyway. We were awful 2nd half

Ffs, are you still whinging? Well, at least you're consistent with it, after every defeat. If your team learned to tackle with an ounce of intensity, maybe you wouldn't have let Kerry players kick points with barely a man near them.

Ive no problem with the better team winning and said they didnt need to extend themselves, if you were at the game and didnt just watch a small spinet on the sunday game youd be better able to comment.

edit: a comment from the kerry forum " The Radio Kerry commentators were giving out about him too, that he gave nothing to Tipp in the first half."
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: BennyHarp on June 15, 2015, 07:10:05 AM
Quote from: tippabu on June 15, 2015, 01:40:06 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 15, 2015, 12:47:51 AM
Quote from: tippabu on June 15, 2015, 12:44:02 AM
I see Sunday game didn't see the "cavanagh" tackle Gooch pulled without even a free that happened today. Got absolutely rode by the ref but kerry never got out of 3rd gear and would have won anyway. We were awful 2nd half

Ffs, are you still whinging? Well, at least you're consistent with it, after every defeat. If your team learned to tackle with an ounce of intensity, maybe you wouldn't have let Kerry players kick points with barely a man near them.

Ive no problem with the better team winning and said they didnt need to extend themselves, if you were at the game and didnt just watch a small spinet on the sunday game youd be better able to comment.

edit: a comment from the kerry forum " The Radio Kerry commentators were giving out about him too, that he gave nothing to Tipp in the first half."

Of course I only saw a small bit on the Sunday Game. Hardly the weekends most attractive fixture. But i don't need to see the full game to see Kerry players like Sheehan, Geaney and Gooch leisurely kicking points with barely a hand near them. I don't think the ref played a part in that? Did your manager let Fitzmaurice into the changing afterwards after Goochs cynical moment? But to be fair, Kerry were in 2nd gear and are most definitely the team to beat this year.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: AZOffaly on June 15, 2015, 09:29:42 AM
Sunday Game wasn't a very accurate depiction I think. The main difference was that Kerry were far more efficient. They certainly had 'hands on them' quite a bit during the game, and were rattled early on, but Tipp hit some bad wides which killed momentum. Around the middle of the field Kerry were in serious bother until about 15 minutes in, then they started hoovering up breaks. The second half needed Tipp to start well, only 2 points down, but Kerry had a great start. They are just that bit more polished in fairness. Still, I wouldn't see this as a step back for Tipp, more accurately it wasn't the huge step forward we were hoping for. Still, no irreparable damage done, and hopefully a good run in the qualifiers. It does bring home the need to get out of Division 3. Tipp need to be playing football in Division 2 at least, and ideally Division 1. The power Kerry have in the tackle is honed by playing top teams every game.

Tipp have some fine footballers, but they need to continue developing so that they can bring the intensity they showed for the majority of the first half, and the quality, to bear for a full 70+ minutes. That's what it will take.
Title: Re: Kerry v Tipperary Sunday 3:30pm
Post by: AZOffaly on June 15, 2015, 10:15:16 AM
By the way, meant to say it was a pleasure to see the gooch back. He is going to be the conductor there at #11. His foot passing is beautiful to watch. Mind you his man (Peter Acheson) drove Tipp on several times and Gooch wasn't inclined to chase back. The only time he chased back he should have been black carded for a hand trip. Bizarrely it was given a free out as the man stumbled, lost possession and touched the ball on the ground.

Great to see him on the field and looking healthy though. When he kicked his first point, I thought the roof was going to come off Ardán Uí Ríann