A bit of a shock. A young woman to leave this world at 56. Was never a fan of her music, voice etc. But I liked her for her rogue element and taking on certain establishments in an unorthodox way. She held great sway in RTE and they courted and gave her a lot of exposure despite much of her mad indoctrinations. I have never seen anyone one else bar Pat Ingoldsby pull that off.
Am listening to John Creedon here trying to make sense of this but knowing that it is the most sensible thing in a senseless world. She saw the world around us for what it was and Shane and she are together again for eternity. A broken but beautiful soul, wife is devastated. Codladh sámh a chroí
Rest in peace Sinead o Connor
Loved her voice
Foggy dew, Danny boy on the late late show in 93 and nothing compares to you simply sensational renditions by her
a troubled soul and a tough few years
Sinéad and Terry Hall did a neat little cover of Dana's All Kinds of Everything. Hard to believe they are both gone now. RIP.
A global star.Hard to credit. The death of her son last year must have cut very deep.
She wrote on her twitter a few weeks ago about moving back to London after 23 years absence and was very happy, finishing a new album hoping to release it early next year and hoped to Tour Australia and New Zealand toward end 2024. Europe, USA and other territories beginning early 2025.
A shame she didn't get to fulfil that RIP.
It was probably just a matter of time before we heard this news. Especially moreso after her son died last year.
I always found it very difficult to like her, to be honest. All this religious, ordination stuff, then this Muslim phase ( or whatever she became later) just seemed like constant attempts for her to try and remain relevant
I don't mind her version of Nothing compares to you , but her career never amounted to much other than that. Never really understood the talk of her having an amazing voice. I never thought so , but others did , so each to their own
Sorry , I know threads like these are meant to be about how great someone was , but I don't really have anything positive to say about the woman. God help her children
Austinpowers I have the same viewpoint on the lady.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 26, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
It was probably just a matter of time before we heard this news. Especially moreso after her son died last year.
I always found it very difficult to like her, to be honest. All this religious, ordination stuff, then this Muslim phase ( or whatever she became later) just seemed like constant attempts for her to try and remain relevant
I don't mind her version of Nothing compares to you , but her career never amounted to much other than that. Never really understood the talk of her having an amazing voice. I never thought so , but others did , so each to their own
Sorry , I know threads like these are meant to be about how great someone was , but I don't really have anything positive to say about the woman. God help her children
You are entitled to your opinion, a strange time to voice it. Millions of people think differently. Ireland has created some legendary singers and songwriters. Sinead O Connor was one, Shane NcGowan another. When they are gone will we have anyone left with half their talent?
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 26, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
It was probably just a matter of time before we heard this news. Especially moreso after her son died last year.
I always found it very difficult to like her, to be honest. All this religious, ordination stuff, then this Muslim phase ( or whatever she became later) just seemed like constant attempts for her to try and remain relevant
I don’t mind her version of Nothing compares to you , but her career never amounted to much other than that. Never really understood the talk of her having an amazing voice. I never thought so , but others did , so each to their own
Sorry , I know threads like these are meant to be about how great someone was , but I don’t really have anything positive to say about the woman. God help her children
Probably best not post on this thread at all if that's the case for you or anyone else with that view.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/10/Sinead_rips_into_the_Pope.jpg/220px-Sinead_rips_into_the_Pope.jpg)
Two weeks after the Saturday Night Live appearance, she was set to perform "I Believe in You" at the Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary tribute concert in Madison Square Garden. She was greeted by a thundering mixture of cheers and jeers. During the booing, Kris Kristofferson told her not to "let the bastards get you down", to which she replied, "I'm not down.''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzxTDHMQza8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzxTDHMQza8)
As I said earlier, she was not my cup of tea music wise, but she had balls, she craved attention, she looked to be a decent skin and she was greatly troubled from her past.
She meant well but often came across badly trying to do the right thing.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 26, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
It was probably just a matter of time before we heard this news. Especially moreso after her son died last year.
I always found it very difficult to like her, to be honest. All this religious, ordination stuff, then this Muslim phase ( or whatever she became later) just seemed like constant attempts for her to try and remain relevant
I don't mind her version of Nothing compares to you , but her career never amounted to much other than that. Never really understood the talk of her having an amazing voice. I never thought so , but others did , so each to their own
Sorry , I know threads like these are meant to be about how great someone was , but I don't really have anything positive to say about the woman. God help her children
Please feel free to elaborate. Musically speaking.
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Quote from: AustinPowers on July 26, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
It was probably just a matter of time before we heard this news. Especially moreso after her son died last year.
I always found it very difficult to like her, to be honest. All this religious, ordination stuff, then this Muslim phase ( or whatever she became later) just seemed like constant attempts for her to try and remain relevant
I don't mind her version of Nothing compares to you , but her career never amounted to much other than that. Never really understood the talk of her having an amazing voice. I never thought so , but others did , so each to their own
Sorry , I know threads like these are meant to be about how great someone was , but I don't really have anything positive to say about the woman. God help her children
Please feel free to elaborate. Musically speaking.
I didn't think she had a great voice. It's that simple.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 26, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
It was probably just a matter of time before we heard this news. Especially moreso after her son died last year.
I always found it very difficult to like her, to be honest. All this religious, ordination stuff, then this Muslim phase ( or whatever she became later) just seemed like constant attempts for her to try and remain relevant
I don't mind her version of Nothing compares to you , but her career never amounted to much other than that. Never really understood the talk of her having an amazing voice. I never thought so , but others did , so each to their own
Sorry , I know threads like these are meant to be about how great someone was , but I don't really have anything positive to say about the woman. God help her children
I agree with a lot of this unfortunately. Maybe through no fault of her own, she was a very damaged and troubled person, who fell out with and caused a lot of strife to those immediately around her. The likes of the Late Late Show and the Sindo constantly egging her on and pandering to her views were absolutely no help either, when it was clear she would have been better served by not giving her quite the large amount of public exposure. (In one of it's more bizarre stunts the paper sent her down to interview Ian Bailey quite recently, which turned out to be a bit of a car wreck).
I wouldn't have her down as one of our greatest talents. Soprano Celine Byrne is our finest singer IMO and there are plenty that were the equal in voice to Sinead. Never really got 'Nothing compares to you' either, I thought it came across as shrill and shrieking. I did have a soft spot for the two below moreso however;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34zj4_8Qzec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej4ZlLlFmLQ
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 27, 2023, 12:30:01 AM
Quote from: restorepride on July 27, 2023, 12:15:50 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 26, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
It was probably just a matter of time before we heard this news. Especially moreso after her son died last year.
I always found it very difficult to like her, to be honest. All this religious, ordination stuff, then this Muslim phase ( or whatever she became later) just seemed like constant attempts for her to try and remain relevant
I don't mind her version of Nothing compares to you , but her career never amounted to much other than that. Never really understood the talk of her having an amazing voice. I never thought so , but others did , so each to their own
Sorry , I know threads like these are meant to be about how great someone was , but I don't really have anything positive to say about the woman. God help her children
Please feel free to elaborate. Musically speaking.
I didn't think she had a great voice. It's that simple.
Musically speaking, how did she not have a great voice? Simple question.
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Quote from: AustinPowers on July 27, 2023, 12:30:01 AM
Quote from: restorepride on July 27, 2023, 12:15:50 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 26, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
It was probably just a matter of time before we heard this news. Especially moreso after her son died last year.
I always found it very difficult to like her, to be honest. All this religious, ordination stuff, then this Muslim phase ( or whatever she became later) just seemed like constant attempts for her to try and remain relevant
I don't mind her version of Nothing compares to you , but her career never amounted to much other than that. Never really understood the talk of her having an amazing voice. I never thought so , but others did , so each to their own
Sorry , I know threads like these are meant to be about how great someone was , but I don't really have anything positive to say about the woman. God help her children
Please feel free to elaborate. Musically speaking.
I didn't think she had a great voice. It's that simple.
Musically speaking, how did she not have a great voice? Simple question.
In her songs, she was either too whispery or as the post above stated, shrill and shrieking
'haunted' is a great song , but she ruined it for me with her whispery singing
You don't need to go all musically or technical about it. Some people can hit most of the Right notes. It doesn't mean you like it. She might have sounded great to your ear , but I honestly couldn't listen to her most of the time
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Quote from: restorepride on July 27, 2023, 12:31:50 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 27, 2023, 12:30:01 AM
Quote from: restorepride on July 27, 2023, 12:15:50 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 26, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
It was probably just a matter of time before we heard this news. Especially moreso after her son died last year.
I always found it very difficult to like her, to be honest. All this religious, ordination stuff, then this Muslim phase ( or whatever she became later) just seemed like constant attempts for her to try and remain relevant
I don't mind her version of Nothing compares to you , but her career never amounted to much other than that. Never really understood the talk of her having an amazing voice. I never thought so , but others did , so each to their own
Sorry , I know threads like these are meant to be about how great someone was , but I don't really have anything positive to say about the woman. God help her children
Please feel free to elaborate. Musically speaking.
I didn't think she had a great voice. It's that simple.
Musically speaking, how did she not have a great voice? Simple question.
In her songs, she was either too whispery or as the post above stated, shrill and shrieking
'haunted' is a great song , but she ruined it for me with her whispery singing
You don't need to go all musically or technical about it. Some people can hit most of the Right notes. It doesn't mean you like it. She might have sounded great to your ear , but I honestly couldn't listen to her most of the time
Yes you do because that is the question being asked of you! Not whether you liked her voice or not - that is just an opinion.
She had the voice of an angel, and oftentimes, a rightly pissed off angel. I won't be listening to her tonight, because her best songs always bring a tear to my eye, and I'd only be in floods tonight if I tried.
She took a lot of shit for saying the right thing. Says more about the rest of us than it does her.
It's not surprising Sinead rubbed up some people the wrong way, she said what she felt, and I don't think she was 'egged' on by the media. There is no doubting she was a troubled soul and the crap she dealt with by becoming famous you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy.
Her views on the church and how the Vatican dealt with the child abuse can't be argued, she'd a platform to bring attention to it and done it, and while people at the time were annoyed at the ripping up a picture of the pope, it got people talking about what she was was trying to highlight. And if it saved one person from the abuse of a clergy man and brought another to justice then it worked.
Musically she had so many different strings to her bow, she collaborated with over 30 singers, her version of the Nothing compares to you has had over 400 million views, thats more than 400 million views that our poster Austinpowers will get, so I'll take his opinion with a pinch of salt
Very sad. RIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpGA0azFdCs&pp=ygUbcHJpbmNlIG5vdGhpbmcgY29tcGFyZXMgMiB1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-EF60neguk&pp=ygUnbm90aGluZyBjb21wYXJlcyB0byB5b3Ugc2luZWFkIG8nY29ubm9y
Prince was a serious talent, but my God, Sinead feels & nails this song. RIP
Each to their own for music tastes. But sinead had some magnificent voice in my opinion. Her version of silent night is as good as you will ever hear. I was never a big fan of sineads I'd agree that rte used her for viewers and let her say whatever.
Quote from: Itchy on July 26, 2023, 10:41:24 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 26, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
It was probably just a matter of time before we heard this news. Especially moreso after her son died last year.
I always found it very difficult to like her, to be honest. All this religious, ordination stuff, then this Muslim phase ( or whatever she became later) just seemed like constant attempts for her to try and remain relevant
I don't mind her version of Nothing compares to you , but her career never amounted to much other than that. Never really understood the talk of her having an amazing voice. I never thought so , but others did , so each to their own
Sorry , I know threads like these are meant to be about how great someone was , but I don't really have anything positive to say about the woman. God help her children
You are entitled to your opinion, a strange time to voice it. Millions of people think differently. Ireland has created some legendary singers and songwriters. Sinead O Connor was one, Shane NcGowan another. When they are gone will we have anyone left with half their talent?
Did she not tout on Shane?
Quote from: snoopdog on July 27, 2023, 09:31:29 AM
Each to their own for music tastes. But sinead had some magnificent voice in my opinion. Her version of silent night is as good as you will ever hear. I was never a big fan of sineads I'd agree that rte used her for viewers and let her say whatever.
I think she was exploited quite a lot by media etc and wasn't really in a fantastic place mentally so tbh the likes of this happening is up there with Winehouse(not the same league talent wise) because it almost feels inevitable and that is almost the saddest part of it. Troubled, and very talented, soul. RIP
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Quote from: AustinPowers on July 26, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
It was probably just a matter of time before we heard this news. Especially moreso after her son died last year.
I always found it very difficult to like her, to be honest. All this religious, ordination stuff, then this Muslim phase ( or whatever she became later) just seemed like constant attempts for her to try and remain relevant
I don't mind her version of Nothing compares to you , but her career never amounted to much other than that. Never really understood the talk of her having an amazing voice. I never thought so , but others did , so each to their own
Sorry , I know threads like these are meant to be about how great someone was , but I don't really have anything positive to say about the woman. God help her children
I agree with a lot of this unfortunately. Maybe through no fault of her own, she was a very damaged and troubled person, who fell out with and caused a lot of strife to those immediately around her. The likes of the Late Late Show and the Sindo constantly egging her on and pandering to her views were absolutely no help either, when it was clear she would have been better served by not giving her quite the large amount of public exposure. (In one of it's more bizarre stunts the paper sent her down to interview Ian Bailey quite recently, which turned out to be a bit of a car wreck).
I wouldn't have her down as one of our greatest talents. Soprano Celine Byrne is our finest singer IMO and there are plenty that were the equal in voice to Sinead. Never really got 'Nothing compares to you' either, I thought it came across as shrill and shrieking. I did have a soft spot for the two below moreso however;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34zj4_8Qzec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej4ZlLlFmLQ
She was given free reign on the late late . All three hosts wheeling her out time and again and pandering to her And her views . I remember she was wheeled out for the 50th anniversary, like she was the president or something. Ridiculous.
Were they pandering to her or exploiting her for headlines?
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 27, 2023, 09:58:49 AM
Were they pandering to her or exploiting her for headlines?
One led to the other. Show Biz is ruthless in it's desire to be relevant and to the forefront.
Can you imagine being stuck next to "Austin Powers" at a pub counter?
You'd never go into a pub again ::)
RIP Sinead :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMZa1gExHv4
Quote from: Rossfan on July 27, 2023, 10:16:48 AM
Can you imagine being stuck next to "Austin Powers" at a pub counter?
You'd never go into a pub again ::)
I think he's Dave Fanning's brother Dick
Sinead was an awesome singer and the first big Irish personality to be brave enough to call out the Catholic Church abuse cover up publicly.
Rest in peace.
Having an opinion is clearly not welcome on this thread :o
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 27, 2023, 11:20:43 AM
Having an opinion is clearly not welcome on this thread :o
You are entitled to it, like everyone is. Others are entitled to disagree with it as well. Simple as that. I respect your right to have your opinion but I disagree with it. To paraphrase her last album we all should take this attitude'how about you be you and I be me' and all have an opinion
Some clarification needed. Is this simply a Sinead O'Connor appreciation thread? If so then it should only contain positive comments about her and her music. If it's not then surely anyone is entitled to voice their opinions, whatever they might be, without others making insulting comments about them.
Kinda thinking the same thing myself.
As usual (and this may be a wider point) there be hysterical eulogizing over people when the pass on and folk tend to get a bit over-dramatic.
And this isnt an attack on the person named on this thread, just merely an observation. Maybe an irish thing.
Sinead O'Connor had a huge amount of talent and a brilliant voice, however (in my opinion) whenever she stopped singing and started talking, let's just say she could be a bit of a maverick. Not the first artist to talk a load of balls and certainly not the last. RIP.
RIP Sinead, Shuhada Sadaqat or whatever, the silken voice with the power of a cruise missile, unafraid to tackle the most despicable of subjects even when it would have been a lot easier to shy away from them like the rest of us in the herd for the easier life.
A true Irish legend whose legacy will stand the test of time and not truly appreciated during her own short lifespan...
Anyway. It turns out she died at her London home, having being found "unresponsive" by police responding to a call. No suspicious circumstances according to report.
RIP. Iconic singer. Had her demons and had gone through some very very tough times lately so hope she has found peace.
Whatever you think of her two things you could not call her would be a sheep or sell out. That at least should be something to appreciate by those who believe in expressing opinions no matter what.
She was a 100% diagnosed bipolar, a life long chronic manic depressive and most probably prescribed heavy anti psychotic medication. When people mention 'troubled' or 'unbalanced' or 'beyond the pale' in an obit, cop on to yourselves.
I was taken aback at the news of her death, hard to credit she's gone and her smile is nomore.
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Quote from: AustinPowers on July 26, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
It was probably just a matter of time before we heard this news. Especially moreso after her son died last year.
I always found it very difficult to like her, to be honest. All this religious, ordination stuff, then this Muslim phase ( or whatever she became later) just seemed like constant attempts for her to try and remain relevant
I don't mind her version of Nothing compares to you , but her career never amounted to much other than that. Never really understood the talk of her having an amazing voice. I never thought so , but others did , so each to their own
Sorry , I know threads like these are meant to be about how great someone was , but I don't really have anything positive to say about the woman. God help her children
Please feel free to elaborate. Musically speaking.
I didn't think she had a great voice. It's that simple.
Musically speaking, how did she not have a great voice? Simple question.
In her songs, she was either too whispery or as the post above stated, shrill and shrieking
'haunted' is a great song , but she ruined it for me with her whispery singing
You don't need to go all musically or technical about it. Some people can hit most of the Right notes. It doesn't mean you like it. She might have sounded great to your ear , but I honestly couldn't listen to her most of the time
I never listened to enough of her stuff to really have an opinion but her duet with MacGowan - who was born in England by the way - in haunted was superb
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Quote from: AustinPowers on July 26, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
It was probably just a matter of time before we heard this news. Especially moreso after her son died last year.
I always found it very difficult to like her, to be honest. All this religious, ordination stuff, then this Muslim phase ( or whatever she became later) just seemed like constant attempts for her to try and remain relevant
I don't mind her version of Nothing compares to you , but her career never amounted to much other than that. Never really understood the talk of her having an amazing voice. I never thought so , but others did , so each to their own
Sorry , I know threads like these are meant to be about how great someone was , but I don't really have anything positive to say about the woman. God help her children
You are entitled to your opinion, a strange time to voice it. Millions of people think differently. Ireland has created some legendary singers and songwriters. Sinead O Connor was one, Shane NcGowan another. When they are gone will we have anyone left with half their talent?
Did she not tout on Shane?
for his own good. It was due to his heroin habit. I think they made up
https://consequence.net/2023/07/morrissey-sinead-oconnor/
He doesn't miss, RIP Sinead
Quote from: Main Street on July 27, 2023, 12:58:50 PM
She was a 100% diagnosed bipolar, a life long chronic manic depressive and most probably prescribed heavy anti psychotic medication. When people mention 'troubled' or 'unbalanced' or 'beyond the pale' in an obit, cop on to yourselves.
I was taken aback at the news of her death, hard to credit she's gone and her smile is nomore.
thats my post to.
One thing I meant to say, while she has her own body of wonderful original work, much of it that never got the airplay it deserved, she was never too precious to sing a song like Beautiful Bundoran - as she did in The Butcher Boy and sing it in a spellbinding haunting way. Similar with her Sean Nos Nua album, she took old Irish songs like Báidín Fheilimi and breathed new life into them.
Quote from: johnnycool on July 27, 2023, 12:18:33 PM
RIP Sinead, Shuhada Sadaqat or whatever, the silken voice with the power of a cruise missile, unafraid to tackle the most despicable of subjects even when it would have been a lot easier to shy away from them like the rest of us in the herd for the easier life.
A true Irish legend whose legacy will stand the test of time and not truly appreciated during her own short lifespan...
I'd agree with everything there. She was fearless and sacrificed her career to an extent, for what she believed in. Ridiculed mercilessly at the time, but ultimately proved to be right.
She offered so many original, both heart rending and joyous, versions of trad Irish folk and trad folk songs, some she took to other dimensions.
This one with a silent Christy Moore is one of my favorites, Ewan McColl's "The first time ever I saw your face"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6-xkorx9Ck&list=RDk6-xkorx9Ck&start_radio=1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6-xkorx9Ck&list=RDk6-xkorx9Ck&start_radio=1)
An artist I wouldn't have been drawn to but on hearing of her passing I put a spotify playlist on and real enjoyed the listen. The girl was talented and authentic if not everyone's cup of tea. RIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnUI4a7BKpE&pp=ygUYc2luZWFkIG8nY29ubm9yIG1hbmRpbmth
Mighty performance of Mandinka, beautiful looking woman.
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RIP Sinead, Shuhada Sadaqat or whatever, the silken voice with the power of a cruise missile, unafraid to tackle the most despicable of subjects even when it would have been a lot easier to shy away from them like the rest of us in the herd for the easier life.
A true Irish legend whose legacy will stand the test of time and not truly appreciated during her own short lifespan...
I'd agree with everything there. She was fearless and sacrificed her career to an extent, for what she believed in. Ridiculed mercilessly at the time, but ultimately proved to be right.
Was she fearless or just ultimately a bit of a nuisance? Did she actually achieve anything by all this soapbox invective? It's quite easy to just speak out about whatever topic is
du jour when you have the media platform to do it, but concrete actions are much harder to push through. Unfortunately I think Sinead went down that road so often that the general public just got a bit fed up and pressed the Ignore button for a finish.
She exposed the Catholic Church and their cover up of child abuse long before it was the topic of the day. As a nation we turned our back on her, she was brave, fearless and probably paid a heavy price with her own mental health in the long term.
I think for anyone to suggest that Sinead O'Connor was a jump on the bandwagon type celebrity, like premiership footballers taking a token gesture knee is beyond insulting.
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RIP Sinead, Shuhada Sadaqat or whatever, the silken voice with the power of a cruise missile, unafraid to tackle the most despicable of subjects even when it would have been a lot easier to shy away from them like the rest of us in the herd for the easier life.
A true Irish legend whose legacy will stand the test of time and not truly appreciated during her own short lifespan...
I'd agree with everything there. She was fearless and sacrificed her career to an extent, for what she believed in. Ridiculed mercilessly at the time, but ultimately proved to be right.
Was she fearless or just ultimately a bit of a nuisance? Did she actually achieve anything by all this soapbox invective? It's quite easy to just speak out about whatever topic is du jour when you have the media platform to do it, but concrete actions are much harder to push through. Unfortunately I think Sinead went down that road so often that the general public just got a bit fed up and pressed the Ignore button for a finish.
Did you hit the ignore button on the abuse of children by the church?
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 28, 2023, 11:34:42 AM
If he did, he wasn't on his own. She didn't get a lot of support when she was calling this out.
She had a platform to do that, was it wise from a professional view point regarding your future? No, but at least she had the conviction to do it
Calling out child abuse carried out by priests in Ireland in the early 90's was never going to make you popular, this is the same set up that imprisoned over 10,000 women (slavery, funded by the state too) in the Magdalene Laundries up to 1996, that was another ignore button pressed by many.
To be fair to her, the ripping up of the picture of the pope generated more talk about the possibilities that it was happening at a grand scale and being covered up
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She exposed the Catholic Church and their cover up of child abuse long before it was the topic of the day. As a nation we turned our back on her, she was brave, fearless and probably paid a heavy price with her own mental health in the long term.
I think for anyone to suggest that Sinead O'Connor was a jump on the bandwagon type celebrity, like premiership footballers taking a token gesture knee is beyond insulting.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 28, 2023, 11:34:42 AM
If he did, he wasn't on his own. She didn't get a lot of support when she was calling this out.
The Christian Brothers, the Spiritan child rapists, the residential homes, the Ryan Report, the orders who expect the government to pay. She was vindicated.
Woke up to a fair few personal videos of Sinead posted on TikTok this morning. In all of them she looked and sounded in a very bad place. I found them very upsetting to watch to tell the truth. I found it very uncomfortable to see some one so distressed, vulnerable and with no solution. Part of me thought these videos should be taken down. Another part of me thought suffering on that scale should be highlighted. God damn it's a dark, dark place.