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Nanderson

Quote from: gawa316 on December 02, 2021, 08:33:51 PM
Never saw a goal like that...don't know what the utd players are whinging about
tbf to everyone but Fred they wouldn't know it was their own player that injured him

Milltown Row2

Regardless of the way the goal came, it was coming, purely on how Arsenal have approached the match. Great value
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David McKeown

I don't think he can give that goal. The ref clearly goes to blow for the injury. So he's clearly about to stop the game. He gets distracted by the shot. He obviously feels that as he's going to stop the game it's no goal. Who he speaks to after that is beyond me. But allowing the goal there would be like awarding a goal after a clear hand ball because you hadn't blown for the handball yet.
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: David McKeown on December 02, 2021, 08:42:46 PM
I don't think he can give that goal. The ref clearly goes to blow for the injury. So he's clearly about to stop the game. He gets distracted by the shot. He obviously feels that as he's going to stop the game it's no goal. Who he speaks to after that is beyond me. But allowing the goal there would be like awarding a goal after a clear hand ball because you hadn't blown for the handball yet.

Whether he was going to blow or was distracted he didn't blow, so by the rules he he couldn't make the call.

I'd say the guys upstairs have informed him he'd no other way out of it
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

David McKeown

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 08:46:34 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on December 02, 2021, 08:42:46 PM
I don't think he can give that goal. The ref clearly goes to blow for the injury. So he's clearly about to stop the game. He gets distracted by the shot. He obviously feels that as he's going to stop the game it's no goal. Who he speaks to after that is beyond me. But allowing the goal there would be like awarding a goal after a clear hand ball because you hadn't blown for the handball yet.

Whether he was going to blow or was distracted he didn't blow, so by the rules he he couldn't make the call.

I'd say the guys upstairs have informed him he'd no other way out of it

No that's not the rules. If a ref blows for a free the ball isn't in play between the foul and the whistle. It's dead from the point of the free. So of course he can decide the game was to be stopped. If it wasn't that way VAR wouldn't work.
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Hound

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 08:46:34 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on December 02, 2021, 08:42:46 PM
I don't think he can give that goal. The ref clearly goes to blow for the injury. So he's clearly about to stop the game. He gets distracted by the shot. He obviously feels that as he's going to stop the game it's no goal. Who he speaks to after that is beyond me. But allowing the goal there would be like awarding a goal after a clear hand ball because you hadn't blown for the handball yet.

Whether he was going to blow or was distracted he didn't blow, so by the rules he he couldn't make the call.

I'd say the guys upstairs have informed him he'd no other way out of it
Exactly. He blew the whistle after the ball was in the net. No foul play so goal has to stand.
Comedic by de gea to lie down like that while the game going on

Milltown Row2

Quote from: David McKeown on December 02, 2021, 08:50:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 08:46:34 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on December 02, 2021, 08:42:46 PM
I don't think he can give that goal. The ref clearly goes to blow for the injury. So he's clearly about to stop the game. He gets distracted by the shot. He obviously feels that as he's going to stop the game it's no goal. Who he speaks to after that is beyond me. But allowing the goal there would be like awarding a goal after a clear hand ball because you hadn't blown for the handball yet.

Whether he was going to blow or was distracted he didn't blow, so by the rules he he couldn't make the call.

I'd say the guys upstairs have informed him he'd no other way out of it

No that's not the rules. If a ref blows for a free the ball isn't in play between the foul and the whistle. It's dead from the point of the free. So of course he can decide the game was to be stopped. If it wasn't that way VAR wouldn't work.

Be interesting then to hear his reasoning then
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David McKeown

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 08:46:34 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on December 02, 2021, 08:42:46 PM
I don't think he can give that goal. The ref clearly goes to blow for the injury. So he's clearly about to stop the game. He gets distracted by the shot. He obviously feels that as he's going to stop the game it's no goal. Who he speaks to after that is beyond me. But allowing the goal there would be like awarding a goal after a clear hand ball because you hadn't blown for the handball yet.

Whether he was going to blow or was distracted he didn't blow, so by the rules he he couldn't make the call.

I'd say the guys upstairs have informed him he'd no other way out of it

Also why is he talking to the guys upstairs they can't tell him about stopping the game for an injury
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David McKeown

I should add that had he have seen De Gea and decided not to stop the game and therefore have awarded the goal immediately I wouldn't have an issue with the goal. It's the way he's behaved I have a problem with. He's clearly made a decision then changed his mind due the ball going in.
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Hound

Quote from: David McKeown on December 02, 2021, 08:57:40 PM
I should add that had he have seen De Gea and decided not to stop the game and therefore have awarded the goal immediately I wouldn't have an issue with the goal. It's the way he's behaved I have a problem with. He's clearly made a decision then changed his mind due the ball going in.
A decision isn't actually made until the whistle goes. Whistle went after ball was in the net.

Helix.

That Fred assist might have saved him from being hauled off at ht.

Out of nowhere and 1-1. Telles and maybe Dalot doing ok!

David McKeown

Quote from: Hound on December 02, 2021, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on December 02, 2021, 08:57:40 PM
I should add that had he have seen De Gea and decided not to stop the game and therefore have awarded the goal immediately I wouldn't have an issue with the goal. It's the way he's behaved I have a problem with. He's clearly made a decision then changed his mind due the ball going in.
A decision isn't actually made until the whistle goes. Whistle went after ball was in the net.

That's not right. How do you chalk goals off for offside if there's a late flag?  How about for handball?
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Hound

United improved / Arsenal went into their shell a bit after the goal. 1-1 fair enough at half time.

Quote from: David McKeown on December 02, 2021, 09:02:57 PM
Quote from: Hound on December 02, 2021, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on December 02, 2021, 08:57:40 PM
I should add that had he have seen De Gea and decided not to stop the game and therefore have awarded the goal immediately I wouldn't have an issue with the goal. It's the way he's behaved I have a problem with. He's clearly made a decision then changed his mind due the ball going in.
A decision isn't actually made until the whistle goes. Whistle went after ball was in the net.

That's not right. How do you chalk goals off for offside if there's a late flag?  How about for handball?
You're mixing your apples and oranges. There was no foul, so the timing of the whistle was all that mattered.

Boycey

Just seen it there, fair enough to award a goal I think but had he blown before ball crosses line also fair enough to disallow?

HiMucker

No harm that is shocking by deGea. I don't think you would ever see that in GAA and the keeper playing on after. Hardly can blame Fred for deGea being made of chocolate