FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

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AZOffaly

I can't believe anyone would look at a 1-1 draw away to the World Champions, by a team currently ranked 62nd in the world, in a negative light. I even thought at times, from what I saw, Ireland tried to pass the ball around. Even in the first half there was a passage of play where McLean, Ward, Whelan and maybe O'Shea passed it around one-touch, and got themselves out of a dodgy situation.

The RTE Soccer panel are a mirror of the Gaelic Football panel. It's pathetic. I watched on Sky. Niall Quinn was delighted, Jamie Carragher was positive and Didi Hamann was disgusted with Germany, but complimentary of Ireland. Why must RTE always try to prove how clever they are by being cynical. I've said it before on here, games are never as good as they are portrayed on Sky, and never as bad as portrayed on RTE. I think they are determined not to be the British TV (BBC/Sky/ITV) style cheerleaders, and instead have become the polar opposite.

Bingo

Anyone listening to Dunphy and Co should have a look at themselves. Agenda driven and the result/game/performance is incidental to them, its all about the lads and keeping their "reputations" up.

Its a pity Souness wasn't on with them as I'm sure he would have rattled their cages.

Massive result and sets up the group very well. Next game V Scotland will be a real battle now.

AZOffaly

Quote from: Bingo on October 15, 2014, 10:39:39 AM
Anyone listening to Dunphy and Co should have a look at themselves. Agenda driven and the result/game/performance is incidental to them, its all about the lads and keeping their "reputations" up.

Its a pity Souness wasn't on with them as I'm sure he would have rattled their cages.

Massive result and sets up the group very well. Next game V Scotland will be a real battle now.

I don't know if anyone 'listens' to them per se. However I can't bear hearing what they say. As I said, if I have a choice I watch it on another station.

Bingo

Quote from: AZOffaly on October 15, 2014, 10:46:44 AM
Quote from: Bingo on October 15, 2014, 10:39:39 AM
Anyone listening to Dunphy and Co should have a look at themselves. Agenda driven and the result/game/performance is incidental to them, its all about the lads and keeping their "reputations" up.

Its a pity Souness wasn't on with them as I'm sure he would have rattled their cages.

Massive result and sets up the group very well. Next game V Scotland will be a real battle now.

I don't know if anyone 'listens' to them per se. However I can't bear hearing what they say. As I said, if I have a choice I watch it on another station.

Turn the TV off after the game ends, you'll be much happier.

The Trap

International football is in a terrible state - WORLD CHAMPIONS GERMANY were lucky to beat SCOTLAND, got beaten by POLAND and drew with IRELAND..............it was an awful World Cup apart from a couple of good games in the early stages............Sterling is too tired to play for England..............at this rate Norn Iron might win the bloody thing!!!!!!

AZOffaly

Quote from: Bingo on October 15, 2014, 10:54:27 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 15, 2014, 10:46:44 AM
Quote from: Bingo on October 15, 2014, 10:39:39 AM
Anyone listening to Dunphy and Co should have a look at themselves. Agenda driven and the result/game/performance is incidental to them, its all about the lads and keeping their "reputations" up.

Its a pity Souness wasn't on with them as I'm sure he would have rattled their cages.

Massive result and sets up the group very well. Next game V Scotland will be a real battle now.

I don't know if anyone 'listens' to them per se. However I can't bear hearing what they say. As I said, if I have a choice I watch it on another station.

Turn the TV off after the game ends, you'll be much happier.

No, I'll just watch it on a different station.

Denn Forever

It's hard to watch them without thinking of Aprés Match.

That said I thought the basic tenet of their argument was that the Germans were there for the taking and the initial set up of the team was wrong.  The only reason for the improved set up was due to Whelan's injury and having to change formation.  And hopefully the management will take on the lessons of the game.
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

magpie seanie

Quote from: Bingo on October 15, 2014, 10:39:39 AM
Anyone listening to Dunphy and Co should have a look at themselves. Agenda driven and the result/game/performance is incidental to them, its all about the lads and keeping their "reputations" up.

Its a pity Souness wasn't on with them as I'm sure he would have rattled their cages.

Massive result and sets up the group very well. Next game V Scotland will be a real battle now.

Sometimes, like last night, I choose to look at the car crash. I look at it and make up my own mind. Occasionally they make some decent points, usually Giles, who is less driven by vendettas and tries to keep to the facts. If I'm not in the humour I'll go for the upbeat Sky version (now that I have the choice).

I like O'Neill and think he will do well. His managerial spells have always followed a trend - starts off getting the team solid and workmanlike, than increases the emphasis on passing and playing ball. I think he is on the road to doing that here. We need the likes of Gibson and McCarthy fit and playing regularly at club level so they can be selected to play the full 90 minutes. It was better to have our better passers on the pitch when we were chasing a goal than being taken off knackered.

oakleaflad

Quote from: magpie seanie on October 15, 2014, 11:06:28 AM
Quote from: Bingo on October 15, 2014, 10:39:39 AM
Anyone listening to Dunphy and Co should have a look at themselves. Agenda driven and the result/game/performance is incidental to them, its all about the lads and keeping their "reputations" up.

Its a pity Souness wasn't on with them as I'm sure he would have rattled their cages.

Massive result and sets up the group very well. Next game V Scotland will be a real battle now.

Sometimes, like last night, I choose to look at the car crash. I look at it and make up my own mind. Occasionally they make some decent points, usually Giles, who is less driven by vendettas and tries to keep to the facts. If I'm not in the humour I'll go for the upbeat Sky version (now that I have the choice).

I like O'Neill and think he will do well. His managerial spells have always followed a trend - starts off getting the team solid and workmanlike, than increases the emphasis on passing and playing ball. I think he is on the road to doing that here. We need the likes of Gibson and McCarthy fit and playing regularly at club level so they can be selected to play the full 90 minutes. It was better to have our better passers on the pitch when we were chasing a goal than being taken off knackered.
Was I watching the same match as everyone else?
Germany pushed up on the Irish defense in the first half and made them play long balls. If Ireland tried to play passing football from the back forward from the start of the game they would have been beat 4-0 or so. It was only when Germany went a goal up and put men behind the ball that Ireland started to pass the ball about - this was due to the Germans defending their lead and being more tired than the beginning of the game. 
It wouldn't have mattered which Irish 11 started the game, it still would have been long balls for at least the first half or face a massacre. The bit in bold is key! Regardless of this I do feel that the team that finished the game was stronger than the team that started the game and would be better for starting against the weaker teams in the group.

lynchbhoy

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Could you imagine if the north v the south were drawn together in France.
I'd love a handy win and would love to get the north of Ireland team in our group!
Handy points for us!

Why  would they be handy? They beat Greece tonight away who were in the knockout stages of the WC, and were missing Evans.

Anyway thats a long way off, neither team is qualified yet.
Isn't that Greek team all about 50 years old now!

We drew with the World Cup winners away and played sihte doing it!
If we improve at all we could be quite handy!

Missing Evans is a bonus I'd say!
Dreadful 'defender'

Wish we had the north of Ireland in our group!
Easy points!

Typical Irish mentality, going mad at fluking a draw to a depleted German side.  As for playing shite doing it, thats probably as well as the Irish team can play when you look at the players they have.  Evans would walk in to the Irish team.
not getting carried away
could be beaten by the jocks yet!
but a draw v Germany away is a great result.

you are having a laugh about johnny evans - im still a better centre half than that clown. and im a cripple.he cant defend
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rodney trotter

Getting a fair share of luck along the way so far, last minute goal by McGeady in Georgia and O Shea last night. It could easily be 4pts from 9, good battling spirit anyway.

Billys Boots

Quote from: AZOffaly on October 15, 2014, 10:01:07 AM
Billy, did you think Germany just assumed they would coast home after they scored? They looked unbelievably careless to me.

Yes AZ, Loew clearly doesn't rate us - and that's understandable from his experiences, and I think his players have a similar view (they certainly thought they were home and hosed last night).  I think that was a little arrogant, considering the experience of their full-backs - I think they won't be taking that approach against us again in Dublin. 
My hands are stained with thistle milk ...

lynchbhoy

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 15, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
Getting a fair share of luck along the way so far, last minute goal by McGeady in Georgia and O Shea last night. It could easily be 4pts from 9, good battling spirit anyway.
and playing fairly shite to be honest (apart from some great spells in each game)
you can see that this team is capable of a lot more.


still a bit suspect at full back. Striking options too - apart from Robbie Keane, the rest of the strikers are not on form.
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AZOffaly

Luck is one way of looking at it. Never giving up is another. Lots of good teams get very late goals. Man United made a habit of it for about 15 years.

ballinaman

Quote from: Bingo on October 15, 2014, 10:39:39 AM
Massive result and sets up the group very well. Next game V Scotland will be a real battle now.
Got my tickets confirmed on Sunday night. Think we are getting an allocation circa 4,000...plenty more will travel without I reckon. Scotland were always going to be tricky, would have preferred to avoid them even before the draw.
The Gallowgate will be bouncing!
Martin O'Neill living up to his rep as a "lucky manager", long may it continue!