FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

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shark

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 18, 2018, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 18, 2018, 01:54:31 PM
interesting stats from todays indo

Brian Kerr, 33 games (18 wins, 11 draws, 4 losses) - 55%

Jack Charlton, 94 games (47 wins, 29 draws, 16 losses) - 50%

Mick McCarthy, 68 games (28 wins, 19 draws, 21 losses) - 43%

Giovanni Trapattoni, 64 games (26 wins, 22 draws, 16 losses) - 41%

Martin O'Neill, 53 games (19 wins, 18 draws and 16 losses) - 36%

Steve Staunton, 17 games (6 wins, 6 draws, 5 losses) - 35%

All I can say is Brian Kerr must have had a good record in friendlies because they didnt beat anyone of note competitively during his era. Thought Charlton had a better record than that but there you go.

Had some excellent results in friendlies, beating The Netherlands and Portugal. The back to back draws v Israel killed the 2006 campaign. Only lost one game - home to France.

From the Bunker

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 18, 2018, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 18, 2018, 01:54:31 PM
interesting stats from todays indo

Brian Kerr, 33 games (18 wins, 11 draws, 4 losses) - 55%

Jack Charlton, 94 games (47 wins, 29 draws, 16 losses) - 50%

Mick McCarthy, 68 games (28 wins, 19 draws, 21 losses) - 43%

Giovanni Trapattoni, 64 games (26 wins, 22 draws, 16 losses) - 41%

Martin O'Neill, 53 games (19 wins, 18 draws and 16 losses) - 36%

Steve Staunton, 17 games (6 wins, 6 draws, 5 losses) - 35%

All I can say is Brian Kerr must have had a good record in friendlies because they didnt beat anyone of note competitively during his era. Thought Charlton had a better record than that but there you go.

Charlton had a record of 1-5-2  = 12.5% in World Cup finals. Many forget the Putrid football played under Charlton - and with some of the Greatest players to grace an Irish Jersey.

BennyCake

Quote from: shark on October 18, 2018, 03:03:12 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 18, 2018, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 18, 2018, 01:54:31 PM
interesting stats from todays indo

Brian Kerr, 33 games (18 wins, 11 draws, 4 losses) - 55%

Jack Charlton, 94 games (47 wins, 29 draws, 16 losses) - 50%

Mick McCarthy, 68 games (28 wins, 19 draws, 21 losses) - 43%

Giovanni Trapattoni, 64 games (26 wins, 22 draws, 16 losses) - 41%

Martin O'Neill, 53 games (19 wins, 18 draws and 16 losses) - 36%

Steve Staunton, 17 games (6 wins, 6 draws, 5 losses) - 35%

All I can say is Brian Kerr must have had a good record in friendlies because they didnt beat anyone of note competitively during his era. Thought Charlton had a better record than that but there you go.

Had some excellent results in friendlies, beating The Netherlands and Portugal. The back to back draws v Israel killed the 2006 campaign. Only lost one game - home to France.

Ah yes, the Gary Doherty years.

red hander

Quote from: From the Bunker on October 18, 2018, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 18, 2018, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 18, 2018, 01:54:31 PM
interesting stats from todays indo

Brian Kerr, 33 games (18 wins, 11 draws, 4 losses) - 55%

Jack Charlton, 94 games (47 wins, 29 draws, 16 losses) - 50%

Mick McCarthy, 68 games (28 wins, 19 draws, 21 losses) - 43%

Giovanni Trapattoni, 64 games (26 wins, 22 draws, 16 losses) - 41%

Martin O'Neill, 53 games (19 wins, 18 draws and 16 losses) - 36%

Steve Staunton, 17 games (6 wins, 6 draws, 5 losses) - 35%

All I can say is Brian Kerr must have had a good record in friendlies because they didnt beat anyone of note competitively during his era. Thought Charlton had a better record than that but there you go.

Charlton had a record of 1-5-2  = 12.5% in World Cup finals. Many forget the Putrid football played under Charlton - and with some of the Greatest players to grace an Irish Jersey.

Indeed. Always thought that. How much better it could have been had those players had a manager who allowed them to 'play'

dec

Quote from: red hander on October 18, 2018, 07:40:55 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 18, 2018, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 18, 2018, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 18, 2018, 01:54:31 PM
interesting stats from todays indo

Brian Kerr, 33 games (18 wins, 11 draws, 4 losses) - 55%

Jack Charlton, 94 games (47 wins, 29 draws, 16 losses) - 50%

Mick McCarthy, 68 games (28 wins, 19 draws, 21 losses) - 43%

Giovanni Trapattoni, 64 games (26 wins, 22 draws, 16 losses) - 41%

Martin O'Neill, 53 games (19 wins, 18 draws and 16 losses) - 36%

Steve Staunton, 17 games (6 wins, 6 draws, 5 losses) - 35%

All I can say is Brian Kerr must have had a good record in friendlies because they didnt beat anyone of note competitively during his era. Thought Charlton had a better record than that but there you go.

Charlton had a record of 1-5-2  = 12.5% in World Cup finals. Many forget the Putrid football played under Charlton - and with some of the Greatest players to grace an Irish Jersey.

Indeed. Always thought that. How much better it could have been had those players had a manager who allowed them to 'play'

He was the manager for 5 qualifying cycles for Euros and World Cups.

The team qualified for 3 of those 5.

All the other managers put together managed to qualify for 3 tournaments.

From the Bunker

Quote from: dec on October 18, 2018, 07:57:25 PM
Quote from: red hander on October 18, 2018, 07:40:55 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 18, 2018, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 18, 2018, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 18, 2018, 01:54:31 PM
interesting stats from todays indo

Brian Kerr, 33 games (18 wins, 11 draws, 4 losses) - 55%

Jack Charlton, 94 games (47 wins, 29 draws, 16 losses) - 50%

Mick McCarthy, 68 games (28 wins, 19 draws, 21 losses) - 43%

Giovanni Trapattoni, 64 games (26 wins, 22 draws, 16 losses) - 41%

Martin O'Neill, 53 games (19 wins, 18 draws and 16 losses) - 36%

Steve Staunton, 17 games (6 wins, 6 draws, 5 losses) - 35%

All I can say is Brian Kerr must have had a good record in friendlies because they didnt beat anyone of note competitively during his era. Thought Charlton had a better record than that but there you go.

Charlton had a record of 1-5-2  = 12.5% in World Cup finals. Many forget the Putrid football played under Charlton - and with some of the Greatest players to grace an Irish Jersey.

Indeed. Always thought that. How much better it could have been had those players had a manager who allowed them to 'play'

He was the manager for 5 qualifying cycles for Euros and World Cups.

The team qualified for 3 of those 5.

All the other managers put together managed to qualify for 3 tournaments.



All the Managers put together did not have the array of talents Jack had at his disposal!


BarryBreensBandage

Off the top of my head:
Bonner (Celtic)
Hughton/Morris (Spurs/Celtic)
O'Leary/McGrath (Arsenal/Man United)
McCarthy/Moran (Celtic/Man United)
Staunton (Liverpool)
Houghton (Liverpool)
Townsend (Chelsea/Villa)
Whelan/Sheedy (Liverpool/Everton)
Quinn/Cascarino (Arsenal/Villa)
Aldridge (Liverpool)

There is some drop off in Irish representation in the top teams in Britain, even with Celtic.
Charlton had it good.
"Some people say I am indecisive..... maybe I am, maybe I'm not".

rodney trotter

#7057
Big drop off, but far more foreign players playing in UK nowadays. Chelsea have won 5 consecutive youth cup and keep sending their young players out on loan.

The Ireland u19s are hope for the future. They have players with the top clubs too , United Spurs, Liverpool  whether they can get their chance or not.

seafoid

Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on October 18, 2018, 11:36:57 PM
Off the top of my head:
Bonner (Celtic)
Hughton/Morris (Spurs/Celtic)
O'Leary/McGrath (Arsenal/Man United)
McCarthy/Moran (Celtic/Man United)
Staunton (Liverpool)
Houghton (Liverpool)
Townsend (Chelsea/Villa)
Whelan/Sheedy (Liverpool/Everton)
Quinn/Cascarino (Arsenal/Villa)
Aldridge (Liverpool)

There is some drop off in Irish representation in the top teams in Britain, even with Celtic.
Charlton had it good.
Everything changed after 1995

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosman_ruling

seafoid

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/oct/25/belgium-top-fifa-rankings-england-fifth

"The Republic of Ireland, beaten at home by Wales, are 33rd, one place better off than Northern Ireland. Scotland are 40th."

bogball88

Quote from: seafoid on October 25, 2018, 03:04:02 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/oct/25/belgium-top-fifa-rankings-england-fifth

"The Republic of Ireland, beaten at home by Wales, are 33rd, one place better off than Northern Ireland. Scotland are 40th."
John Delaney got his dream of being the 33rd team, 8 years later


An Watcher


general

England Squad Announced - no rice. Is there still a glimmer of hope? Have seen some people saying its out of the question and they wouldnt have him. Surely hes a player we wouldnt be in a position to turn down - after all he is a young player who has had his head turned by the english media, club chairman etc

shark

Quote from: general on November 08, 2018, 02:26:27 PM
England Squad Announced - no rice. Is there still a glimmer of hope? Have seen some people saying its out of the question and they wouldnt have him. Surely hes a player we wouldnt be in a position to turn down - after all he is a young player who has had his head turned by the english media, club chairman etc

He was never going to be in their squad. Has to do the paperwork first, which takes a couple of months.