FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

[muppet]

In today's world of X-Factor, everything is about the panel and the hacks.

The rest is irrelevant.

[highorlow]

Half of them don't even talk to the media.

I know Mickey Harte is a class manager but......................

[Main Street]

We'll have to agree to disagree but IMO O'Donoghue knew exactly what he was at and was asking a loaded question. Managers shouldn't have to put up with rubbish criticism silently and King put them and O'Donoghue in their place tonight and fait dues to him for doing it.

KIng did nothing Zulu except make a tit of himself. He should watch amateur GAA managers field questions in a far better manner.

Unprofessional, out of his depth and proved why he was never a contender.

Yeah right Indiana   
Sure King was uptight but  he actually  gave a very good account of himself and irish football in the interview.
The panel were exposed as hypocritical, over sensitive morons, but all that probably went over your head.
King didn't pick the players that the panel wanted him to pick and last week King called  them comedy clowns. And last night was just another night when Tony, armed with best bits from the panel discussion, with the excitement of a kid let lose in a sweatshop, sticks the mike in front of the manager and by 2nd questions gets out his depth. If it was just this one time, then I'd say King overreacted but this has been an RTE tactic for ages, fronted by somebody who doesn't have a clue about his questions, except that he knows they are written in bold type on his clipboard.

Since when does a manager ever pick the team that everybody agrees with? What matters is what King tried to do with the players he did select.
Last night the team made near 600 passes, hardly a hoof in sight, fullbacks receiving the ball from the goalie, midfielders turning up to receive the ball, players making space for themselves and trying to do intelligent stuff. All exactly what the panel had been moaning about for years. King played a formation which is similar with the way the youth teams play, it's a football philosophy, something which Giles had been preaching but he couldn't recognise it, because he doesn't  watch irish underage football, he probably hasn't got a clue who is the director of Irish football or what he's trying to put into place. King knows him and works with him.
Then you had the moan of why not play McClean?  Same ol' same ol', some player not selected is transformed into Pele-like sainthood and should have been picked.  Stokes is supposed by the panel not to have played  in that position at Celtic, which is poppycock. Which team at intl level is playing with 2 wide players at midfield? In a 4231 you don't have 2 wide players in the 3.
Why do you think Kazakhstan have not got hammered in the games they played against Germany and Sweden? 1 nil 2 nil 3 nil results.

But somehow in the space of 5 days, Ireland are supposed to score more than Germany, change totally the way they have been playing football for the past 5 years and put together a sparkling passing game, and because the rookie stand-in manager King could not manage it to champagne perfection he was pilloried by the panel in a personal, nasty and disrespectful manner.

[Billys Boots]

Good post MS.

[J OGorman]

RTE are spoofers and Noel King was dead right to call both O'Donoghue and the spoofers on their nonsense analysis.

All for anyone having a pop at the RTE comedy sketch, but King didn't pick his moment very well. The question that set him off was a perfectly reasonable one.

I don't think it was particularly reasonable. On top of the playing out of position question which followed on from the criticism of the German game he then asked about bringing on a winger earlier after a 3-1 win. There was clearly a two faced dig there and King called him on it straight away.

Opinions need to be informed and reasoned, once they are that if they are critical then fine. RTE's panel are neither reasoned or informed IMO.

hunner %..it was all very tabloidy. Fair play to Kinger. Match won, seeded in pot 2 for the next Euro's. If he had played a more sexy attacking approach and got beat, resulting in being seeded in pot 3, he might have ended up tarred and feathered. Giles and Dunphy had him hung out to dry before a ball was kicked in Germany. We lost more games than we won with Giles the expert as manager ffs. A pair of goats

[Bingo]

On another note, no harm to Dunphy but he looked rough last night and his speach was slow/slurred. Eyes very watery as well. Don't think it was drink but had the look of a man not well or on strong medication.

[rodney trotter]

Yeah, he looked white as a ghost.

It would be no harm if they removed Ronnie Whelan from commentary.

[J OGorman]

Yeah, he looked white as a ghost.

It would be no harm if they removed Ronnie Whelan from commentary.

Schweinsteiger

[Bingo]

Yeah, he looked white as a ghost.

It would be no harm if they removed Ronnie Whelan from commentary.

Ronnie was some player but he is hard to listen to, always comes across as bitter and angry that he missed the golden age of money.

[Main Street]

Good post MS.

especially the bit about a kid being let loose in a sweatshop

[deiseach]

If RTÉ were serious about analysis, Giles would be in the commentary box. When he's there we see the man who enjoys the game, lucidly explains what we have just seen, and is willing to admit to the odd mistake now and again. When he's in the studio we see a curmudgeonly old fart chundering on about the need to show the will to win, attack at all times, show the will to win, display moral courage, and show the will to win. Then again, RTÉ are not serious about analysis. It's all a pantomime, and it's possible that we'd all rather it this way.

[Aaron Boone]

As long as the pundits are being talked about then it's a job done for RTE, they don't care.
Same with Brolly this summer, RTE ecstatic at the publicity.

[imtommygunn]

We'll have to agree to disagree but IMO O'Donoghue knew exactly what he was at and was asking a loaded question. Managers shouldn't have to put up with rubbish criticism silently and King put them and O'Donoghue in their place tonight and fait dues to him for doing it.

KIng did nothing Zulu except make a tit of himself. He should watch amateur GAA managers field questions in a far better manner.

Unprofessional, out of his depth and proved why he was never a contender.

Yeah right Indiana   
Sure King was uptight but  he actually  gave a very good account of himself and irish football in the interview.
The panel were exposed as hypocritical, over sensitive morons, but all that probably went over your head.
King didn't pick the players that the panel wanted him to pick and last week King called  them comedy clowns. And last night was just another night when Tony, armed with best bits from the panel discussion, with the excitement of a kid let lose in a sweatshop, sticks the mike in front of the manager and by 2nd questions gets out his depth. If it was just this one time, then I'd say King overreacted but this has been an RTE tactic for ages, fronted by somebody who doesn't have a clue about his questions, except that he knows they are written in bold type on his clipboard.

Since when does a manager ever pick the team that everybody agrees with? What matters is what King tried to do with the players he did select.
Last night the team made near 600 passes, hardly a hoof in sight, fullbacks receiving the ball from the goalie, midfielders turning up to receive the ball, players making space for themselves and trying to do intelligent stuff. All exactly what the panel had been moaning about for years. King played a formation which is similar with the way the youth teams play, it's a football philosophy, something which Giles had been preaching but he couldn't recognise it, because he doesn't  watch irish underage football, he probably hasn't got a clue who is the director of Irish football or what he's trying to put into place. King knows him and works with him.
Then you had the moan of why not play McClean?  Same ol' same ol', some player not selected is transformed into Pele-like sainthood and should have been picked.  Stokes is supposed by the panel not to have played  in that position at Celtic, which is poppycock. Which team at intl level is playing with 2 wide players at midfield? In a 4231 you don't have 2 wide players in the 3.
Why do you think Kazakhstan have not got hammered in the games they played against Germany and Sweden? 1 nil 2 nil 3 nil results.

But somehow in the space of 5 days, Ireland are supposed to score more than Germany, change totally the way they have been playing football for the past 5 years and put together a sparkling passing game, and because the rookie stand-in manager King could not manage it to champagne perfection he was pilloried by the panel in a personal, nasty and disrespectful manner.

Good post.

RTE sports punditry in GAA and soccer is a joke.

[Bingo]

Its been a while since Souness has joined the panel, he generally kept them in a reality check and on topic.

[Billys Boots]

Its been a while since Souness has joined the panel, he generally kept them in a reality check and on topic.

The only time they actually do it pretty well (or used to anyway) is when Ireland are not involved and they have competition (from BBC and ITV) for advertising revenue - it's actually quite good sometimes during the EC or WC.  The best analyst is Brian Kerr, though I don't think he'd sit in the same room as Dunphy.