The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[the colonel]

I thing we should ban all talk of Mowbray and Strachan from now. We all get the fact Tony is a Strachan fan, the rest may not be. Yawn

[T Fearon]

Advocaat was O'Neill's adversary in his first couple of years in Glasgow, and not a very good one. After all he spent £12m on Flo and bankrupted the Gers in the process

Ah, its too easy to say Strachan was all bad and O'Neill was all good. Maybe if Strachan had access to the funds made available to O'Neill he could have produced a more entertaining side.Also if Boro had been doing so well why was Southgate sacked?

What I would argue was , both O'Neill and Strachan were far superior than Mowbray, using the only yardstick that means anything...trophies won.

Little point in arguing about the past, how was good and bad etc. O'Neill and Strachan proved they were worthy Celtic Managers. Mowbray didn't.At the end of the day,even if I was in charge, Celtic should be winning SPLs hands down.Lets hope the new manager whoever he is, Lennon or someone else, rectifies the problems.

PS Tam Cowan on Mowbray in Saturday's Daily Record. "Mowbray wanted Celtic to play like Barcelona, but his team was more Matalan than Catalan"

[lynchbhoy]

Advocaat was O'Neill's adversary in his first couple of years in Glasgow, and not a very good one. After all he spent £12m on Flo and bankrupted the Gers in the process

Ah, its too easy to say Strachan was all bad and O'Neill was all good. Maybe if Strachan had access to the funds made available to O'Neill he could have produced a more entertaining side.Also if Boro had been doing so well why was Southgate sacked?

What I would argue was , both O'Neill and Strachan were far superior than Mowbray, using the only yardstick that means anything...trophies won.

Little point in arguing about the past, how was good and bad etc. O'Neill and Strachan proved they were worthy Celtic Managers. Mowbray didn't.At the end of the day,even if I was in charge, Celtic should be winning SPLs hands down.Lets hope the new manager whoever he is, Lennon or someone else, rectifies the problems.

PS Tam Cowan on Mowbray in Saturday's Daily Record. "Mowbray wanted Celtic to play like Barcelona, but his team was more Matalan than Catalan"

mowbray didnt get the time to prove anything
he was as good(or bad) as strachan.
you are only as good as your last season and mowbray has had two bad years, as does strachan - whose past two seasons are most probably WORSE !

wee ginger cannot be included in the same ballpark as MON.
He's had money at boro and made a bigger balls of a 'winning' team than mowbray did with a losing team. He had money at Celtic too - rem 4.4 million for Scott brown !!!


my point all along is that Celtic need to start getting managers that are not from the bargain bin like strachan and mowbray. As the past few seasons have shown why a good manager and investing the cash to pay him is vitally important.

[Main Street]

Over and over (as the song goes) 
The day will surely come when you guys can agree to disagree.

[T Fearon]

Yes, though I just regard this as a difference of opinion not an argument. We will hardly persuade each other to see this issue differently I suppose so I'm ready to agree to disagree

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

Gary Bombscare sent off for Wigan this evening.

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

I see the Strachan obsession from certain posters continues but still no admission they were very wrong on Mowbray . Lennon has been saying he has been taking advice from MON and Strachan so nice easy scapegoat on here if it doesnt go well for him....all down to WGS.

[lynchbhoy]

I see the Strachan obsession from certain posters continues but still no admission they were very wrong on Mowbray . Lennon has been saying he has been taking advice from MON and Strachan so nice easy scapegoat on here if it doesnt go well for him....all down to WGS.

sacking a manager in the first year doesnt give them much of a chance.
Again should not be taking in the cheaper guys like Mowbray and strachan in the first place.
While mowbray might not be in alex fergusons league, if fergie got the chop when he deserved to many moons ago (in his first couple of seasons with man u) like the celtic board have done - then man u may well be in the div 2/championship by now - where they were headed at that stage - rather than continuing to chase CL's!

Mowbrays biggest fault was that he didnt cull the (strachans) deadwood earlier in his tenure and he paid for it.

[illdecide]

Gary Bombscare sent off for Wigan this evening.

How was his tattoo looking?

whats that off?

[T Fearon]

Most expert opinion (and thats not just mine by the way ) was that Mowbray alienated too many of the old guard (who have 3 SPL medals in their pockets) and discarded too many too soon. For example letting Mc Manus and Caldwell (two internationals) go, with Loovens injury problems, effectivvely meant that he staked his job on a teenage central defensive pairing that was largely untried.

At least Mc Manus will be back in the summer.

[Estimator]

Gary Bombscare sent off for Wigan this evening.

How was his tattoo looking?

whats that off?

Check out the Brilliant Lies thread

[lynchbhoy]

Most expert opinion (and thats not just mine by the way ) was that Mowbray alienated too many of the old guard (who have 3 SPL medals in their pockets) and discarded too many too soon. For example letting Mc Manus and Caldwell (two internationals) go, with Loovens injury problems, effectivvely meant that he staked his job on a teenage central defensive pairing that was largely untried.
At least Mc Manus will be back in the summer.

thats complete bulls**t !
'old guard' ?
these are guys that you are talking about are not 'has beens' - they have 'never been's' and were not Celtic Park 'old guard' they were never good enough as central defenders
I hope somone buys mcmanus as I have said on here and long before it that while he is a nice lad and a celtic fan, thats not enough as he hasnt the talent or the positioning let alone a poor left peg and a worse right one.
caldwell -  he is being found out again at wigan....and he was a rubbish defender at hibs too !

btw Mowbray bought three centre halves (Hoiveld, Rogne and Thompson) and brought back O'dea (who was sent away to re-learn and restore his cnfidence as the last season under strachan had destroyed him).
Thats 5 centre halves- unlucky that three of them (inc loovens) have been more or less inj since Christmas.
as for internationals....scotland are closer to the bottom feeders like north of Ireland than brazil or Spain !

[T Fearon]

3 league medals in their pockets all the same, which is three more than Fortune etc will have, when (hopefully) he's moved on at the end of the season.

I thought Mc Manus had a towering game against Man Ure in the CL 1-1 draw in Glasgow in 2008.

As for Caldwell, I don't understand this. Surely he wouldn't be plying his trade in the EPL if he was as bad as people make out?

The most disturbing thing is, that according to Hinkel, Mowbray brutally told those he did'nt rate that they were crap, which is hardly confidence inspiring. All well and good if you are going to have a purge and bring in better players than the ones you're getting rid off. In Mowbray's case, the players brought in were significantly worse than the ones let go.

Unfortunately Celtic are not in the financial position to pay top dollar for top class managers (and the job itself wouldn't be attractive to them either), so we're stuck with candidates of the calibre of Strachan and Mowbray. I think Lennon should be given every chance.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

Rankers getting humped by St Johnstone 4-1, it's a start!

[Myles Na G.]

I see the Strachan obsession from certain posters continues but still no admission they were very wrong on Mowbray . Lennon has been saying he has been taking advice from MON and Strachan so nice easy scapegoat on here if it doesnt go well for him....all down to WGS.

sacking a manager in the first year doesnt give them much of a chance.
Again should not be taking in the cheaper guys like Mowbray and strachan in the first place.
While mowbray might not be in alex fergusons league, if fergie got the chop when he deserved to many moons ago (in his first couple of seasons with man u) like the celtic board have done - then man u may well be in the div 2/championship by now - where they were headed at that stage - rather than continuing to chase CL's!

Mowbrays biggest fault was that he didnt cull the (strachans) deadwood earlier in his tenure and he paid for it.

Mowbray should never have been given the job in the first place - his record didn't merit it. He only got the job because he was available, he was relatively cheap, and he had a previous connection with Celtic. His biggest fault is that he is a poor manager. He thinks that if you have 6 attacking players on the field, it's somehow a 'positive'. A pub team manager could've told him that such an approach leads only to 4-0 defeats at the hands of a side which couldn't beat a 9 man Rangers team.