FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

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seafoid

Quote from: Ed Ricketts on November 20, 2021, 03:17:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 20, 2021, 11:54:54 AM
The BIG haven't qualified for the World Cup since 2002. There are only 13 UEFA places so there is no room for mediocrity
Qualifying in first place would be almost on a par with the 1988 Euro finalist team.

16 spots up for grabs at the next one, though. Who knows what way UEFA will work the Nations League into the qualifying process, but at a glance it shouldn't need too much of a push to have Ireland knocking about 12-16 in the continent.

Scotland and Wales have managed it this time around. And unremarkable teams like North Macedonia, Turkey & Ukraine are also in the mix. We even essentially finished 17th in the qualifying campaign for the 2018 WC, with the north, Greece and Iceland placing ahead of us.

It can be done with an ordinary enough side given some decent organisation and a bit of luck.
They got through to the playoffs.

We were ranked 19th in 2017 which is a consistent with a poor experience at the Euros

Now we are 37th.

https://www.football-coefficient.eu/coefficient/#table-country-coefficients

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: seafoid on November 20, 2021, 06:50:46 PM
Quote from: Ed Ricketts on November 20, 2021, 03:17:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 20, 2021, 11:54:54 AM
The BIG haven't qualified for the World Cup since 2002. There are only 13 UEFA places so there is no room for mediocrity
Qualifying in first place would be almost on a par with the 1988 Euro finalist team.

16 spots up for grabs at the next one, though. Who knows what way UEFA will work the Nations League into the qualifying process, but at a glance it shouldn't need too much of a push to have Ireland knocking about 12-16 in the continent.

Scotland and Wales have managed it this time around. And unremarkable teams like North Macedonia, Turkey & Ukraine are also in the mix. We even essentially finished 17th in the qualifying campaign for the 2018 WC, with the north, Greece and Iceland placing ahead of us.

It can be done with an ordinary enough side given some decent organisation and a bit of luck.
They got through to the playoffs.

We were ranked 19th in 2017 which is a consistent with a poor experience at the Euros

Now we are 37th.

https://www.football-coefficient.eu/coefficient/#table-country-coefficients

That is the League of Ireland in 37th in the league coefficient

Iteland are actually in 47th.

seafoid

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2021, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 20, 2021, 06:50:46 PM
Quote from: Ed Ricketts on November 20, 2021, 03:17:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 20, 2021, 11:54:54 AM
The BIG haven't qualified for the World Cup since 2002. There are only 13 UEFA places so there is no room for mediocrity
Qualifying in first place would be almost on a par with the 1988 Euro finalist team.

16 spots up for grabs at the next one, though. Who knows what way UEFA will work the Nations League into the qualifying process, but at a glance it shouldn't need too much of a push to have Ireland knocking about 12-16 in the continent.

Scotland and Wales have managed it this time around. And unremarkable teams like North Macedonia, Turkey & Ukraine are also in the mix. We even essentially finished 17th in the qualifying campaign for the 2018 WC, with the north, Greece and Iceland placing ahead of us.

It can be done with an ordinary enough side given some decent organisation and a bit of luck.
They got through to the playoffs.

We were ranked 19th in 2017 which is a consistent with a poor experience at the Euros

Now we are 37th.

https://www.football-coefficient.eu/coefficient/#table-country-coefficients

That is the League of Ireland in 37th in the league coefficient

Iteland are actually in 47th.
GRMA

You can see from the playoffs the nature of decent performance. Wales and Scotland were mediocre for years. Now it's our turn

imtommygunn

There wasn't much between wales Scotland and us. Scotland blew euro 2012. We had managers who may have played defensive football but had a structure that works.

seafoid

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/four-tottenham-flops-named-and-shamed-as-antonio-conte-told-to-clear-deadwood/ar-AAR9X9c?ocid=msedgntp

It's been a disgrace. And some of the players, and I will name them Matt Doherty, Tanguy Ndombele, Dele Alli and Davinson Sanchez were shocking. They should be ashamed of their performance and should not wear a Spurs shirt again.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: imtommygunn on November 20, 2021, 07:24:19 PM
There wasn't much between wales Scotland and us. Scotland blew euro 2012. We had managers who may have played defensive football but had a structure that works.

It worked short term until it stopped working.

Itchy

Quote from: seafoid on November 27, 2021, 09:27:11 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/four-tottenham-flops-named-and-shamed-as-antonio-conte-told-to-clear-deadwood/ar-AAR9X9c?ocid=msedgntp

It's been a disgrace. And some of the players, and I will name them Matt Doherty, Tanguy Ndombele, Dele Alli and Davinson Sanchez were shocking. They should be ashamed of their performance and should not wear a Spurs shirt again.

So says Jamie O Hara who won what in his career? 1 league Cup.

imtommygunn

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 27, 2021, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 20, 2021, 07:24:19 PM
There wasn't much between wales Scotland and us. Scotland blew euro 2012. We had managers who may have played defensive football but had a structure that works.

It worked short term until it stopped working.

It wasn't that short term. Got to two euros. Problem was the standard of player dropped a lot rather that style of football.

seafoid

One of the excuses I have seen a few times regarding the state of the Irish team relates to changes in the EPL which mean it is harder for players to make it in England. Surely that would also apply to Wales and Scotland.

rodney trotter

Nations League Draw on December 16th

https://www.uefa.com/uefanationsleague/news/026f-13c83126e65f-3ab9c4e54708-1000--league-phase-draw-lowdown/

The performances against Portugal should give them some confidence going into that campaign. Kenny needs to do well either way

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: imtommygunn on November 27, 2021, 03:07:46 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 27, 2021, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 20, 2021, 07:24:19 PM
There wasn't much between wales Scotland and us. Scotland blew euro 2012. We had managers who may have played defensive football but had a structure that works.

It worked short term until it stopped working.

It wasn't that short term. Got to two euros. Problem was the standard of player dropped a lot rather that style of football.

But none of our players play route one at club level. Go down to your park and watch the kids, it's all passing from the back. Even the LoI has ditched direct play. Trap and MON were trying to get limited players to play an alien style. Kenny at least is trying to get them to play how they know.

But crucially with him actually living here he can influence how the elite kids play and in what formation like a club manager does. The days of a manager based overseas flying in 2 days before a game and home 2 days after is gone.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: rodney trotter on November 27, 2021, 07:14:57 PM
Nations League Draw on December 16th

https://www.uefa.com/uefanationsleague/news/026f-13c83126e65f-3ab9c4e54708-1000--league-phase-draw-lowdown/

The performances against Portugal should give them some confidence going into that campaign. Kenny needs to do well either way

Bosnia, Finland ,Albania please.

You know we will get Sweden, Russia and Slovenia though.

Baile Brigín 2

I see on Twitter that Shamrock Rovers will be the furthest team south in 2022 Premier division. The only cities represented are Dublin and Derry, with no Munster teams at all.


rodney trotter

Waterford created their own mess sacking Bircham earlier in the week.
Need Cork City to rise again and get back into the Premier

It should be a good Cup final tomorrow between Bohemians and Pats.. Bohemians have some tidy players, Devoy, Tierney, Burt, Kelly, Forrester for Pats is excellent
A good interview with the 2 Captains https://t.co/2CaVyFMugH?amp=1