FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

[Minus15]

I don't believe Christie had a good game. Passing was terrible. Took a few long throws and that was about it. McGeady done alright for last 15 mins. At least it looked like something might come from him.

I thought Bale on O'Shea could have been a red card but it was an experienced ref who called it right in my opinion. Bale was trying to connect with the cross and did not mean to make contact. But it was high and had the potential to do damage.

Overall it is a good point. Shane Long is a trojan of a centre forward.

[Hectic]

Only saw the second half as I coach juvenilles on a Friday evening but I thought Wales were fairly putting the boot in even before the Bale and Taylor 'tackles'. Couple of very high boots in quick succession and generally seemed to be out to take man and ball in their tackling.

I listened to Coleman after and he sounded like he was almost blaming Ireland for Colemans break stating the case that we saw in the first half that Ireland were out to rough house them and that they knew that is what Ireland were going to be about. Almost to say any strong arm tactics were a response to Ireland in the first half.

Like I said, did not see the first half but Ireland must have been fairly brutal in their tackling to cause Wales to come out in the second half tackling high with studs showing all round. Or else Chris Coleman is a sc*mbag.

[yellowcard]

Only saw the second half as I coach juvenilles on a Friday evening but I thought Wales were fairly putting the boot in even before the Bale and Taylor 'tackles'. Couple of very high boots in quick succession and generally seemed to be out to take man and ball in their tackling.

I listened to Coleman after and he sounded like he was almost blaming Ireland for Colemans break stating the case that we saw in the first half that Ireland were out to rough house them and that they knew that is what Ireland were going to be about. Almost to say any strong arm tactics were a response to Ireland in the first half.

Like I said, did not see the first half but Ireland must have been fairly brutal in their tackling to cause Wales to come out in the second half tackling high with studs showing all round. Or else Chris Coleman is a sc*mbag.

I would say Ireland were robust and aggressive in the first half with the Whelan elbow on Allen (who made a complete meal of it) being the worst example. That was a yellow/borderline red tackle. However there is a big difference in being overly physical and the reckless dangerous tackles put in by Bale and Taylor. The referee bottled the Bale tackle and look at the outcome. Colemans comments afterwards were at best highly insensitive towards Colemans condition. It may well have been his instructions to rough Ireland up that created the backdrop for Taylor to lunge into such a tackle.

[omagh_gael]

Nothing dirty in terms of reckless sliding tackles, however, there were occasions (Whealen on Allen being the worst) when we led with the elbow going for high balls.

Whilst Taylor's challenge caused horrendous damage, looking back at the replays in not 100% sure that he went in dangerously high with both feet rsised. It was reckless in the extreme but I don't think it was intended to cause injury. Coleman came in at great speed and Taylor's legs appear to scissor grab Coleman's right leg and wasn't overly high. The leg broke on contact when Coleman struck through the ball a moment before Taylor arrived. I still think it was a red every day of the week as players have a duty of care towards their opponents and Taylor went in too reckless. I still believe it wasn't to cause serious injury.

[ballinaman]

Nothing dirty in terms of reckless sliding tackles, however, there were occasions (Whealen on Allen being the worst) when we led with the elbow going for high balls.

Whilst Taylor's challenge caused horrendous damage, looking back at the replays in not 100% sure that he went in dangerously high with both feet rsised. It was reckless in the extreme but I don't think it was intended to cause injury. Coleman came in at great speed and Taylor's legs appear to scissor grab Coleman's right leg and wasn't overly high. The leg broke on contact when Coleman struck through the ball a moment before Taylor arrived. I still think it was a red every day of the week as players have a duty of care towards their opponents and Taylor went in too reckless. I still believe it wasn't to cause serious injury.

Taylor the only man who knows that for sure.

[Minus15]

Nothing dirty in terms of reckless sliding tackles, however, there were occasions (Whealen on Allen being the worst) when we led with the elbow going for high balls.

Whilst Taylor's challenge caused horrendous damage, looking back at the replays in not 100% sure that he went in dangerously high with both feet rsised. It was reckless in the extreme but I don't think it was intended to cause injury. Coleman came in at great speed and Taylor's legs appear to scissor grab Coleman's right leg and wasn't overly high. The leg broke on contact when Coleman struck through the ball a moment before Taylor arrived. I still think it was a red every day of the week as players have a duty of care towards their opponents and Taylor went in too reckless. I still believe it wasn't to cause serious injury.

Taylor the only man who knows that for sure.

Ah lads. There is no way he tried to cause what happened or anywhere near it. A player isn't going to do that and take a red card for his troubles. If they see a chance to go in hard they may take it but they wouldn't be intentionally trying to injure the player. It is not like the Keane Haaland one where there was previous between the two players. Coleman would be a likeable played and dirt just isn't a part of his game so very much doubt he would be targeted in this way. I am sure Taylor is regretting it too. It was wreckless and dangerous but that happens somewhere every other week and does not mean people are deliberately trying to cause serious injury their opponents.

[Esmarelda]

The RTE pundits had an off night. Brady reckoned that McClean would be one of the first names on Pulis's team even though he's only just got a couple of starts after none for about four months.

Dunphy reckoned that Long and Whelan's elbows weren't indisciplined. He also thought that Bale being out the field wasn't hurting us, proven by the clip he was showing which put Taylor in on goal.

[Hectic]

Nothing dirty in terms of reckless sliding tackles, however, there were occasions (Whealen on Allen being the worst) when we led with the elbow going for high balls.

Whilst Taylor's challenge caused horrendous damage, looking back at the replays in not 100% sure that he went in dangerously high with both feet rsised. It was reckless in the extreme but I don't think it was intended to cause injury. Coleman came in at great speed and Taylor's legs appear to scissor grab Coleman's right leg and wasn't overly high. The leg broke on contact when Coleman struck through the ball a moment before Taylor arrived. I still think it was a red every day of the week as players have a duty of care towards their opponents and Taylor went in too reckless. I still believe it wasn't to cause serious injury.

Taylor the only man who knows that for sure.

Ah lads. There is no way he tried to cause what happened or anywhere near it. A player isn't going to do that and take a red card for his troubles. If they see a chance to go in hard they may take it but they wouldn't be intentionally trying to injure the player. It is not like the Keane Haaland one where there was previous between the two players. Coleman would be a likeable played and dirt just isn't a part of his game so very much doubt he would be targeted in this way. I am sure Taylor is regretting it too. It was wreckless and dangerous but that happens somewhere every other week and does not mean people are deliberately trying to cause serious injury their opponents.

Maybe not but if you go in wreckless, foot raised with studs showing, you are always potentially going to damage your opponent. Thankfully in the main players avoid the full impact of this type of challenge but there is a reason why this is a red card offence. Best I can say is that maybe he never considered the potential consequences.

[An Watcher]

I wonder whether people on here ever played competitive sport.  It may be true that he didn't want to break his leg but he may have wanted to hit him hard, to put him out of the game, to get him back for that last challenge or to stop Coleman destroying him.  He went over the top though and wrecked Coleman.

[foxcommander]

Neil Taylor = sc**bag
Chris Coleman = Defender of sc**bag.

[Asal Mor]

The RTE pundits had an off night. Brady reckoned that McClean would be one of the first names on Pulis's team even though he's only just got a couple of starts after none for about four months.

Dunphy reckoned that Long and Whelan's elbows weren't indisciplined. He also thought that Bale being out the field wasn't hurting us, proven by the clip he was showing which put Taylor in on goal.

Dunphy's insistence that using the elbow is a modern foul which wasn't a part of the game until recent years was a strange one.

[screenexile]

This article sums it up well for me . . . again the Irish hype train needed something after the England Rugby win to get their click bait so they tried to destroy Taylor.

It was a bad and reckless tackle but don't tell me anybody who has ever played soccer at any level hasn't put in a tackle like that without thinking. The outcome doesn't define the intent!

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/the-secret-footballer/put-away-the-noose-no-way-taylor-was-thinking-about-hurting-coleman-446196.html#

Nevertheless it's horrible for Coleman, Everton and Ireland. It's very difficult to overcome those types of injuries but he's young enough and hopefully he can come back stronger!

[seafoid]

Holland are on a very shaky scraw
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/27/danny-blind-holland-matthijs-de-ligt-bulgaria

[JPGJOHNNYG]

A bit like the belarus game the second string have no interest in sticking their hand up. Awful cr@p. Never seen so many balls into the box with no irish player even close. Johnny hayes the best of it a 30 yr old playing for aberdeen!

[SHEEDY]

Daryll horgan surely should have started that match. Feel sorry for anyone who paid good money to watch that tonight. Dour watch.