Quote from: armaghniac on Today at 12:29:23 AMQuote from: GAABoardMod5 on Today at 12:23:02 AMNot true...you are still referencing walkover scenario.
I think I'll go to bed, especially as I posted the rules in #361 and identified that the Westmeath score was relevant at that point. But then lost confidence in my own post.
(ii) Scoring Difference (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For);
Westmeath will not be easily hammered, and given that they almost beat Tyrone in the last game last year they will hang on to the end. At minimum they will determine second and third place and that could be material.
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on Today at 12:23:02 AMNot true...you are still referencing walkover scenario.
Quote from: armaghniac on May 29, 2024, 11:33:12 PMQuote from: galwayman on May 29, 2024, 11:11:40 PMQuote from: armaghniac on May 29, 2024, 10:59:52 PMI think the scenario being talked about is one where Derry, Galway and Armagh all beat Westmeath & all end up on 4 points.Quote from: lenny on May 29, 2024, 10:14:06 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 29, 2024, 05:21:07 PMIn the event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walkover, the tie shall be decided by the following means:
(i) Least number of Walkovers given.
(ii) Score Difference from the games in which only the teams involved, (teams tied on points), have played each other (subtracting the total Scores Against from the total Scores For)
(iii) Highest Total Score For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii)
(iv) Highest Total Goals For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii) & (iii)
(v) A Play-Off
From opening page on this thread. Fair chance we lose to Derry and beat Galway and everyone beats Westmeath. In that case score difference only from the games between us, Derry and Galway would come into it.
That's why Derry can't finish top unless we beat Armagh by 6 or 7 points which just won't happen.
This thread is repeating itself. As I said above, surely you have the option of beating Westmeath by 8 or 9 points instead?
Results against Westmeath then don't count in terms of the scoring average calculation - so it wouldn't matter how much they beat Westmeath by.
Fair enough, that is written there, which was a clue.
Quote from: galwayman on May 29, 2024, 11:11:40 PMQuote from: armaghniac on May 29, 2024, 10:59:52 PMI think the scenario being talked about is one where Derry, Galway and Armagh all beat Westmeath & all end up on 4 points.Quote from: lenny on May 29, 2024, 10:14:06 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 29, 2024, 05:21:07 PMIn the event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walkover, the tie shall be decided by the following means:
(i) Least number of Walkovers given.
(ii) Score Difference from the games in which only the teams involved, (teams tied on points), have played each other (subtracting the total Scores Against from the total Scores For)
(iii) Highest Total Score For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii)
(iv) Highest Total Goals For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii) & (iii)
(v) A Play-Off
From opening page on this thread. Fair chance we lose to Derry and beat Galway and everyone beats Westmeath. In that case score difference only from the games between us, Derry and Galway would come into it.
That's why Derry can't finish top unless we beat Armagh by 6 or 7 points which just won't happen.
This thread is repeating itself. As I said above, surely you have the option of beating Westmeath by 8 or 9 points instead?
Results against Westmeath then don't count in terms of the scoring average calculation - so it wouldn't matter how much they beat Westmeath by.
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 29, 2024, 10:16:14 PMQuote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2024, 08:54:13 PMYe had similar to that in 2022 and 90% of the GAA couldnt wait to dump it as it wasn't wanted.
Sources for this please...?
Quote from: armaghniac on May 29, 2024, 10:59:52 PMI think the scenario being talked about is one where Derry, Galway and Armagh all beat Westmeath & all end up on 4 points.Quote from: lenny on May 29, 2024, 10:14:06 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on May 29, 2024, 05:21:07 PMIn the event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walkover, the tie shall be decided by the following means:
(i) Least number of Walkovers given.
(ii) Score Difference from the games in which only the teams involved, (teams tied on points), have played each other (subtracting the total Scores Against from the total Scores For)
(iii) Highest Total Score For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii)
(iv) Highest Total Goals For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii) & (iii)
(v) A Play-Off
From opening page on this thread. Fair chance we lose to Derry and beat Galway and everyone beats Westmeath. In that case score difference only from the games between us, Derry and Galway would come into it.
That's why Derry can't finish top unless we beat Armagh by 6 or 7 points which just won't happen.
This thread is repeating itself. As I said above, surely you have the option of beating Westmeath by 8 or 9 points instead?
Quote from: Jim Bob on May 29, 2024, 10:36:05 PMQuote from: marty34 on May 29, 2024, 09:16:31 PMThis is the type of candidate that SF are 'going after' now I think. Moving away, to a certain extent, from the old guard. Pat is new blood, if you pardon the pun!
If she is successful, would she go down the route of Health Minister at some stage? She would have a better knowledge that most of this portfolio.
Maybe some long term planning here but needs to get elected first obviously.
Snapchat might know more?
Bet there are a few Sinn Fein members pissed off in FST tonight who have worked their @@@@@ off the past few years and hoping that maybe they would in with a shout of being selected .............