FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

[seafoid]

From March. The midfield problem isn't new.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0328/1366853-massive-problem-stems-from-ireland-number-six-issue/

[Itchy]

Reports Lee Carsley being lined up which would be a good move I think.

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/2023/06/17/gus-poyet-unsparing-in-assessment-of-ireland-after-greece-win-tactical-battle/

Converted full back Callum O'Dowda was also targeted with the Cardiff City winger at fault for the Greece goals in the 2-1 defeat that heaps pressure on Kenny to remain at the helm for a possible March 2024 playoff to qualify for Germany 2024.
"We prepared under [Ireland operating] their two main systems, 5-4-1 and 5-3-2," said Poyet. "We had the suspicion that it would be two strikers so we put a lot of emphasis on the size and the full backs, how to drag them one way and switch to the other side, to be able to attack.


"It sounds very easy but you have to do it in the game. Plenty of times in the first half we had our full backs arriving in areas to put the Republic of Ireland back."
The Uruguayan even foresaw Kenny's formational switch at half-time when Idah was hauled off before O'Dowda and Smallbone also made way on 53 minutes.
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"I am sure the gaffer [Kenny] saw that and tried to change a striker with a midfielder and tried to stop us and we were put under a bit of pressure but then they got weaker in the middle and we pressed through the middle to be able to play wide," Poyet continued.
"This team understands all this quickly and I am happily surprised because in a club training every day that can take you six or seven months, and here we trained four or five days and we are able to have the players to embrace it."
When asked to describe the Irish style of play under Kenny as a 'classic British way' or 'possession-based' or a constant state of flux, the former Chelsea midfielder leaned into option three.
"I understand that situation because when we were analysing the Republic of Ireland we had the impression that you were really playing football with the ball on the floor, playing through the thirds, going wide, putting players in the box and I was happy because of the way that you played.
"And then there were other games where depending on the result you become the Republic of Ireland, with all due respect. You depend on a corner, you depend on a long ball, you depend on fighting for second and third balls.
"But it's tough boys, it's tough. I remember many games with the national team where I was on the pitch thinking 'how are we going to win this?' And I don't know how they feel, but that succession of corners at the beginning of the game – five, six, seven, eight – you are playing away from home and you need to win and the ball is coming, coming, coming and it is corner after corner. How do you get out of that?
"If you have three points, or six points and have that bit more confidence it is a little bit easier. When you must win and there is a little bit of tension because you cannot concede, it is tough.
"You need a group who has been playing I don't know how many years.
"It is difficult, I have been in that situation and it is not for everyone."

[Captain Scarlet]

That's very open from Poyet. But they had our number and as pointed have decent players.
Now we play Gibraltar who are ranked way below us, we surely demand a win while dominating the ball.
There can be no excuses for this one.

[seafoid]

That's very open from Poyet. But they had our number and as pointed have decent players.
Now we play Gibraltar who are ranked way below us, we surely demand a win while dominating the ball.
There can be no excuses for this one.

I think what it means is that 3 points at home versus Greece are by no means guaranteed

[Applesisapples]

Kenny is out of his depth.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Reports Lee Carsley being lined up which would be a good move I think.

Underage only, no experience managing senior teams, would he move to Dublin?

He is better than most names being touted but a huge box of risk too

[thewobbler]

Step back and think about this.

One of the most mediocre wingers in Ireland's history is about to hit the 100 cap mark.

That a series of managers have had to rely on McClean should be indication enough that Ireland aren't underachieving these days, and that the manager isn't the issue.

[AustinPowers]

Step back and think about this.

One of the most mediocre wingers in Ireland's history is about to hit the 100 cap mark.

That a series of managers have had to rely on McClean should be indication enough that Ireland aren't underachieving these days, and that the manager isn't the issue.

Well , think  about this then ....... Aidan mc geady  got 93 caps.  Yup, you read that right,  ninety three. That is more  than Paul McGrath,  Niall Quinn, Packie  Liam Brady or Roy Keane

Mc clean  at least gets stuck in . Reckless at times , but  I'd have him in the  team ahead of mcgeady  any day. And  ahead of a  lot of those other players  around now

[seafoid]

Step back and think about this.

One of the most mediocre wingers in Ireland's history is about to hit the 100 cap mark.

That a series of managers have had to rely on McClean should be indication enough that Ireland aren't underachieving these days, and that the manager isn't the issue.

In a four-year span from 1968 to 1971, the Republic of Ireland failed to win a single match, competitive or otherwise.
Now is only marginally better

[Cavan19]

Reports Lee Carsley being lined up which would be a good move I think.

Underage only, no experience managing senior teams, would he move to Dublin?

He is better than most names being touted but a huge box of risk too

Why would he need to move to Dublin?

[Saffron_sam20]

Step back and think about this.

One of the most mediocre wingers in Ireland's history is about to hit the 100 cap mark.

That a series of managers have had to rely on McClean should be indication enough that Ireland aren't underachieving these days, and that the manager isn't the issue.

Well , think  about this then ....... Aidan mc geady  got 93 caps.  Yup, you read that right,  ninety three. That is more  than Paul McGrath,  Niall Quinn, Packie  Liam Brady or Roy Keane

Mc clean  at least gets stuck in . Reckless at times , but  I'd have him in the  team ahead of mcgeady  any day. And  ahead of a  lot of those other players  around now

McGeady was a far far better player than McClean would ever be, not even close

[Applesisapples]

Step back and think about this.

One of the most mediocre wingers in Ireland's history is about to hit the 100 cap mark.

That a series of managers have had to rely on McClean should be indication enough that Ireland aren't underachieving these days, and that the manager isn't the issue.

Well , think  about this then ....... Aidan mc geady  got 93 caps.  Yup, you read that right,  ninety three. That is more  than Paul McGrath,  Niall Quinn, Packie  Liam Brady or Roy Keane

Mc clean  at least gets stuck in . Reckless at times , but  I'd have him in the  team ahead of mcgeady  any day. And  ahead of a  lot of those other players  around now

McGeady was a far far better player than McClean would ever be, not even close

Moot point both were as good in their time as was available. Like McClean or loth him at least he gives 100% not his fault that he is limited and he is not alone in the Ireland setup over the last 10 years. That said Ireland have had a better mix of players available to them than NI but NI have had Michael O'Neill who seems to get the best out of limited talent.

[imtommygunn]

McGeady was one of the most - if not the most - frustrating players I ever saw play. You just kept thinking something could happen when he got the ball and it rarely ever did. I'd have McClean's endeavor over him any day of the week.

[From the Bunker]

I'm not in to comparing, but more appreciating players who play for Ireland.

I appreciate that McGeady chose Ireland.

I appreciate that McClean loves Ireland.